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CM Team is Ready for porting CM 7/9 to Galaxy R, Need your Suggestion’s

Edit: Some positive reply from Codeworkx, He told if we can get a device to CM Team they will help us.
Need your suggestions..
codeworkx said:
mj.vikram said:
Hi Codeworkx,
I've seen your CM9 Nightlie Build for Galaxy SII I9100G you have done a great job for I9100G.
Even though Galaxy R is very nice device but because of lack of CM support Samsung Galaxy R is unknown to so many people, so can you/CM team please help us in Porting CM for Galaxy R, our developers has ported CM7 but because of some problem its stuck at Samsung Logo.
Link for Our CM7: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1558637
Thank you in advance,
Galaxy R user.
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Without owning a device it's not possible.
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Update: As codeworkx is busy (he is already supporting 3 devices) he has referred Epsylon3 (CM Member and supporting Motorola Atrix), he is ready to help us but we need to get him a device.
Epsylon3 said:
Hi, codeworx relayed your message about the galaxy R...
Im the motorola defy (jordan) Maintainer, tpruvot on github, and in cm team...
I have and i'm also in atrix dev team which also use a tegra2
If your offer is still valid, i might be interrested by the CM7/9 ports
PS: else im in france
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I want. I want. I want.
Sent from my GT-I9103 using XDA

gitanshu said:
I want. I want. I want.
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Dude then you need to click on Yes and submit it..

Umm.. Where? I cant see anything where i check yes and submit.
Sent from my GT-I9103 using XDA

gitanshu said:
Umm.. Where? I cant see anything where i check yes and submit.
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once you open the post on the top of it you can see Yes/No select yes and click on submit.

I would like to have CM on my device. I shall extend my support in all ways i could manage.

i am dying to get cm7 or cm9

mj.vikram said:
Hi Friends,
XDA Elite Recognized Developer codeworkx (CyanogenMod Menmber) of Team Hacksung has conducted the Poll for Galaxy SII I9100G Model and 1,075 people voted that they want CM, so he purchased the mobile and started development and now they are having official CM9 Nightlie Build.
So i started this post and want to check how many of us want and if we are also having people more than 1000+ we can send this results to CM Team and request them.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583091
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A poll had been made for Galaxy R on the CM forums itself. There were around 300-400 votes, even then no dev has shown interest in making a ROM for our device. I don't know where this is going to go unless some CM dev himself conducts a poll.

'cooleagle' said:
A poll had been made for Galaxy R on the CM forums itself. There were around 300-400 votes, even then no dev has shown interest in making a ROM for our device. I don't know where this is going to go unless some CM dev himself conducts a poll.
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if we get good number of voters for our device we can atleast show them the count and request them, i am also not sure if they may or may not help us but just a try from our side .

I'm sorry but I am afraid nobody has ever ported CM just because a large army of users wanted it. It's kinda obvious that every android community desires a CM. From my experience... if devs are not interested by themselves even 10000 votes won't make them change their mind.
What can help is contacting some devs direct and donating phone (if they are willing to help).

'cooleagle' said:
A poll had been made for Galaxy R on the CM forums itself. There were around 300-400 votes, even then no dev has shown interest in making a ROM for our device. I don't know where this is going to go unless some CM dev himself conducts a poll.
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m.kochan10 said:
I'm sorry but I am afraid nobody has ever ported CM just because a large army of users wanted it. It's kinda obvious that every android community desires a CM. From my experience... if devs are not interested by themselves even 10000 votes won't make them change their mind.
What can help is contacting some devs direct and donating phone (if they are willing to help).
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yep agreed with this, we have ported builds of cm7 and cm9 but because of lack of dev support we r far behind, we need cm dev himself show interest in developing cm for sgr.

I guess if CM7 or CM9 comes to this phone ... there wud be more demand of this phone and a possible revival of its sales .... Maybe sammy comes with SGR2

afzalbhimani said:
I guess if CM7 or CM9 comes to this phone ... there wud be more demand of this phone and a possible revival of its sales .... Maybe sammy comes with SGR2
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SGR2 already launched with next gen arm9 snapdragon s4 cpu

OP updated with reply from Codeworkx, need your suggestions...

mj.vikram said:
OP updated with reply from Codeworkx, need your suggestions...
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Is there someone from Germany here who owns a R ? If anyone has it in Germany then could you lend your device to codeworks for sometime if possible as this could be a good opportunity for getting dev support for our device.
If you know someone from Germany who owns a R then do request him/her to help codeworks.

See , that's the difficulty of devving a device :/
This was sent from a Galaxy Ace. Problem?

EmoBoiix3 said:
See , that's the difficulty of devving a device :/
This was sent from a Galaxy Ace. Problem?
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Common man don't do that it doesn't help. At least help in getting some devs interested in developing CM 9 for Galaxy R instead.

I don't think anybody will be interested in lending his/her device for testing and risking possible brick. I guess donation thread is the only option. SGR is not that expensive today, plus it doesn't have to be a brand new and there are many users eagerly waiting for cm. Just make sure codeworkx will be actually working on it, cos right now he just said that without device there's nothing he can do, and it's not actually the same: "buy me a phone and I'll do it for you"

m.kochan10 said:
I don't think anybody will be interested in lending his/her device for testing and risking possible brick. I guess donation thread is the only option. SGR is not that expensive today, plus it doesn't have to be a brand new and there are many users eagerly waiting for cm. Just make sure codeworkx will be actually working on it, cos right now he just said that without device there's nothing he can do, and it's not actually the same: "buy me a phone and I'll do it for you"
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Yes you are correct i will first ask him if he is ready then we can go with the available options..

good to see u guys are still hoping... bring something in...
btw i was wondering in the case making 'R' available to the dev for CM how many members are here at xda that will support for SGR...?

Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 SGH-I497 AT&T

If anyone knows of or is in production of a custom ROM please let me know. I have mine rooted with CWM, so if you need any stock files let me know and Ivan send them over! I would love to have something for this make. I see there are plenty of option for the pxxxx or gtxxx models. But nothing for the SGHxxx variants.

Looking for this too!!!!!!!

OK, I will jump in also.... But if you do find one, come to Google+ and point the way.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/100516894664157928866

I have one too and I can't believe there is no development for this thing. If there is no dev for it soon, the next new thing will bump it off the AT&T shelf and all we'll have is a rooted stock Tab 2 or the opportunity to buy something else.

Im sorry but there is seriously only one dev for any SGHXXX device. And he only supports the 7" one. Sorry guys. Besides, why not get a Nexus 7 or wait for the new Nexus 7.7?

Luigi2012SM64DS said:
Im sorry but there is seriously only one dev for any SGHXXX device. And he only supports the 7" one. Sorry guys. Besides, why not get a Nexus 7 or wait for the new Nexus 7.7?
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Maybe because we wanted a 10.1 inch tablet NOT a 7".

MSITHero said:
Maybe because we wanted a 10.1 inch tablet NOT a 7".
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Did you really have to bump this thread just to tell me that?

Lancsta said:
If anyone knows of or is in production of a custom ROM please let me know. I have mine rooted with CWM, so if you need any stock files let me know and Ivan send them over! I would love to have something for this make. I see there are plenty of option for the pxxxx or gtxxx models. But nothing for the SGHxxx variants.
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How did you get yours rooted? I have tried a number of different ways and never could get it rooted. I have searched XDA for it as well but no luck.

MSITHero said:
How did you get yours rooted? I have tried a number of different ways and never could get it rooted. I have searched XDA for it as well but no luck.
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I found 3 very quickly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101044
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957165
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342501
All in the first 2 pages of the development section. Took a whole 30 seconds just reading the thread topics.

found a great rom for my tablet sgh-i497
Lancsta said:
If anyone knows of or is in production of a custom ROM please let me know. I have mine rooted with CWM, so if you need any stock files let me know and Ivan send them over! I would love to have something for this make. I see there are plenty of option for the pxxxx or gtxxx models. But nothing for the SGHxxx variants.
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i found a great ROM for this tablet its a 4.1.2 ROM but i can get a lot of the features from the newer Roms you just can install a rooted app and install them i can get the link to the ROM if anyone would like. its a stock ROM but its amazing

great news
XxthebeekxX said:
i found a great ROM for this tablet its a 4.1.2 ROM but i can get a lot of the features from the newer Roms you just can install a rooted app and install them i can get the link to the ROM if anyone would like. its a stock ROM but its amazing
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i would really love it, please do provide the link...thanks in advance

snanakwame said:
i would really love it, please do provide the link...thanks in advance
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Me too!

may you please give me the ROM i want to change my junky android on my tablet

But cannot locate my phone icon after rooting with the firmware

hi guys do you still have SGH-i497 tab ?

I'm also looking for any usable rom apart from stock. I have an sph-p500 which is technically the same as sgh-i497 but found no roms at all. any help appreciated. all rom links are broken. I know the device is pretty old but I don't want to shred it.

[REQ] Android 4.2.1/2 ROM for Galaxy Victory 4G LTE

If possible, I'm willing to donate $100 or more to a developer that is willing to cook up a Jellybean 4.2.1 or 4.2.2 custom rom for the VM Samsung Galaxy Victory 4G LTE. Possibly an AOKP rom. I'm currently running cmbaughman's PACMAN rom atm and I love it. So if it is possible, $100 donation goes to the first runner up.
(sorry about the placement of the post, I didn't know where else to post it since there is no SGV forum threads)
Troll on.

port
Why dont you just port one from galaxy s3 they are basically the same phone. let me know how it goes.

TheKnux said:
If possible, I'm willing to donate $100 or more to a developer that is willing to cook up a Jellybean 4.2.1 or 4.2.2 custom rom for the VM Samsung Galaxy Victory 4G LTE. Possibly an AOKP rom. I'm currently running cmbaughman's PACMAN rom atm and I love it. So if it is possible, $100 donation goes to the first runner up.
(sorry about the placement of the post, I didn't know where else to post it since there is no SGV forum threads)
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wait, you have cmbaughman's PACMAN rom running on your victory?

SGV4GLTE 4.2.2 JB update 6.12.13
TheKnux said:
If possible, I'm willing to donate $100 or more to a developer that is willing to cook up a Jellybean 4.2.1 or 4.2.2 custom rom for the VM Samsung Galaxy Victory 4G LTE. Possibly an AOKP rom. I'm currently running cmbaughman's PACMAN rom atm and I love it. So if it is possible, $100 donation goes to the first runner up.
(sorry about the placement of the post, I didn't know where else to post it since there is no SGV forum threads)
Troll on.
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re-f*#*ing-tarded... because i'm a "NOOB" i cant post a very valuable pertinant reply to your request if theres an outside link, soooo....
try this: go to... androidforums_dot_com / virgin-mobile-victory-4g-lte-all-things-root/713217-vmobi-dev-cyanogenmod-jelly-bean-4-2-2-06-12-2013-a.html
work in progress ... updated 2 days ago...

It's being worked on. The Galaxy S3 (d2) and the Victory (goghspr) are similar, but not exactly the same. The display is different, and there are not any other devices I can find with the same display as the goghspr. WIFI is not the same, BT is not the same, etc. There is already a booting CM-10 for the goghspr, but I stopped work on it to move to CM-10.1. The link you provided is to the post of a guy I'm also working with, g60madman. Give us time. I'm working on the kernel when I can (I'm disabled and have a new painful injury to deal with). The apexqtmo guys have been very helpful and are allowing me to dig through their work to get some stuff for the goghspr/goghvmu kernel. I already have cm-10.1 building, but it won't boot until I get the drivers ported. Create thread with the device name and show the generation of interest as often as possible. I've already requested a dedicated forum, but there needs to be a real NEED for it before we can get it. Cheers and out!

need that 4.2 rom!
interloper said:
It's being worked on. The Galaxy S3 (d2) and the Victory (goghspr) are similar, but not exactly the same. The display is different, and there are not any other devices I can find with the same display as the goghspr. WIFI is not the same, BT is not the same, etc. There is already a booting CM-10 for the goghspr, but I stopped work on it to move to CM-10.1. The link you provided is to the post of a guy I'm also working with, g60madman. Give us time. I'm working on the kernel when I can (I'm disabled and have a new painful injury to deal with). The apexqtmo guys have been very helpful and are allowing me to dig through their work to get some stuff for the goghspr/goghvmu kernel. I already have cm-10.1 building, but it won't boot until I get the drivers ported. Create thread with the device name and show the generation of interest as often as possible. I've already requested a dedicated forum, but there needs to be a real NEED for it before we can get it. Cheers and out!
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Can't find the VM Samsung Galaxy Victory thread...just trying to show some support, I really want the 4.2 rom as well. Thanks a million.

jrode said:
Can't find the VM Samsung Galaxy Victory thread...just trying to show some support, I really want the 4.2 rom as well. Thanks a million.
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Thanks for the support. There is not a forum on XDA for this device. There are two on androidforums. I have ported cwm and twrp and have released a faster kernel and some other junk too. I think others have some stuff there too. Hit my github link and you'll see some repos and forks for other guys basing off my work. g60madman just patched our kernel up and he's setting up for cm-10.1 for the goghvmo. Again, take a look. We're legit. My time is limited during school break and i am disabled so progress goes in spurts. Cheers and out!

yup found it
interloper said:
Thanks for the support. There is not a forum on XDA for this device. There are two on androidforums. I have ported cwm and twrp and have released a faster kernel and some other junk too. I think others have some stuff there too. Hit my github link and you'll see some repos and forks for other guys basing off my work. g60madman just patched our kernel up and he's setting up for cm-10.1 for the goghvmo. Again, take a look. We're legit. My time is limited during school break and i am disabled so progress goes in spurts. Cheers and out!
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yup found those forums. you guys rule, thanks again.

Playing with the VItcory left me no touch screen
ok so i flashed my stinking rom with odin utilizing the file CWM 6. I ACCIDENTLY DOWNLOADED THE "NO tOUCH" .ZIP. sO NOW I cant use my touch screen only the buttons. I downloaded the right one the "TOUCH" and flashed again the same way and it said sucessful but man its still stuck wo touch screen i wiped the phone. I just got this darn thing Cant even use it. I wanted to root it. Just havin problems all day

jaekap said:
ok so i flashed my stinking rom with odin utilizing the file CWM 6. I ACCIDENTLY DOWNLOADED THE "NO tOUCH" .ZIP. sO NOW I cant use my touch screen only the buttons. I downloaded the right one the "TOUCH" and flashed again the same way and it said sucessful but man its still stuck wo touch screen i wiped the phone. I just got this darn thing Cant even use it. I wanted to root it. Just havin problems all day
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Maybe this will help:
http://www.oudhitsquad.com/android/Samsung/SPH-L300/Mod/recovery/TWRP-2.5.tar
Remember, uncheck auto-reboot. Once flash is finished, pull USB cable and battery. Replace battery and boot directly into recovery using VOLUP+POWER until blue letters are seen in upper left corner. Release buttons. That should get you going. Use goomanager to update to TWRP 2.6

aologies
where do i utilize that file in odin? im real new. thanks human!

jaekap said:
where do i utilize that file in odin? im real new. thanks human!
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PDA slot. Always PDA slot. I don't even know why there are other slots.

hmm
I sent you the files that i used. i cant reverse the no touch with the touch in odin. still stays no touch. basicly i can see everything just cant touch. sucks...

TheKnux said:
If possible, I'm willing to donate $100 or more to a developer that is willing to cook up a Jellybean 4.2.1 or 4.2.2 custom rom for the VM Samsung Galaxy Victory 4G LTE. Possibly an AOKP rom. I'm currently running cmbaughman's PACMAN rom atm and I love it. So if it is possible, $100 donation goes to the first runner up.
(sorry about the placement of the post, I didn't know where else to post it since there is no SGV forum threads)
Troll on.
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Could you send me a copy of the pacman rom because its not there anymore thank you if you can

[Rom Request] AT&T - D850

Looking to see if anyone is looking to start developing a rom. I might start doing one soon and seeing if anyone else has prior experience. I'm interested in creating a stable slim rom.
Original ROM Download: http://www.androidrootz.com/p/lg-g3-stock-fiwares.html

Be a waste?
pr0cl1v1ty said:
Looking to see if anyone is looking to start developing a rom. I might start doing one soon and seeing if anyone else has prior experience. I'm interested in creating a stable slim rom.
Original ROM Download: http://www.androidrootz.com/p/lg-g3-stock-fiwares.html
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Especially since we can't flash yet..

breathtakingevil said:
Especially since we can't flash yet..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089

I suppose your right...
pr0cl1v1ty said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089
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Let me know if this method works for your D850, I'm interested to see!

breathtakingevil said:
Let me know if this method works for your D850, I'm interested to see!
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It does work. Please go read the linked thread.

The link is for the method to only go back to stock. Creating a Rom and flashing it like that will not work. Sorry.
Also, for future reference, this section is for development not requests. That is what the general and Q&A sections are for.
sent from the BaconPope's LG G3

pr0cl1v1ty said:
Looking to see if anyone is looking to start developing a rom. I might start doing one soon and seeing if anyone else has prior experience. I'm interested in creating a stable slim rom.
Original ROM Download: http://www.androidrootz.com/p/lg-g3-stock-fiwares.html
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Glad you are excited but word on the street is alot of the roms for our phones are 99% complete. As soon as we get an unlock/exploite for our phone you will probably see most of your main stream builds pop up. IE. Slim rom, Cyanogen, Carbon, AOKP, etc. I am in no means trying to discourage you but in all due time I am sure you will have a choice of roms to pick from. The source for most of those roms listed above are on github you could start building and forking for our device and I am not sure our device files are available yet.

neo4uo said:
Glad you are excited but word on the street is alot of the roms for our phones are 99% complete. As soon as we get an unlock/exploite for our phone you will probably see most of your main stream builds pop up. IE. Slim rom, Cyanogen, Carbon, AOKP, etc. I am in no means trying to discourage you but in all due time I am sure you will have a choice of roms to pick from. The source for most of those roms listed above are on github you could start building and forking for our device and I am not sure our device files are available yet.
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Yea, I have found all needed files, all we need is a recovery.

pr0cl1v1ty said:
Yea, I have found all needed files, all we need is a recovery.
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Awesome...which Rom were you planning on using as a base slim?

pr0cl1v1ty said:
Looking to see if anyone is looking to start developing a rom. I might start doing one soon and seeing if anyone else has prior experience. I'm interested in creating a stable slim rom.
Original ROM Download: http://www.androidrootz.com/p/lg-g3-stock-fiwares.html
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I have been holding off on rooting my D850 until Slim is available. Ran it on my Sensation, and HTC One M7. I know one can do all sorts of tweaks with some add-ons, but Slim was just the complete package. Can't wait....

I have SlimKat on 2 S3s in the house. I would love to get it on my G3 and G Pad 7

Yes slim will be coming to the g3 as soon as the bootloader is unlocked. I am the slim maintainer for the optimus g and g2. I have a g3 sitting in a drawer at home. Unfortunately, until the bootloader is unlocked (and im very confident it will happen. Thecubed unlocked it on the lgog), it is not possible to have any roms yet.

arcardinal said:
Yes slim will be coming to the g3 as soon as the bootloader is unlocked. I am the slim maintainer for the optimus g and g2. I have a g3 sitting in a drawer at home. Unfortunately, until the bootloader is unlocked (and im very confident it will happen. Thecubed unlocked it on the lgog), it is not possible to have any roms yet.
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acardinal. good to see you on here. do you know it's true that the former maintainer for CM is also now doing it for the g3?

arcardinal said:
Yes slim will be coming to the g3 as soon as the bootloader is unlocked. I am the slim maintainer for the optimus g and g2. I have a g3 sitting in a drawer at home. Unfortunately, until the bootloader is unlocked (and im very confident it will happen. Thecubed unlocked it on the lgog), it is not possible to have any roms yet.
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That's great to hear, I have SlimKat on 2 S3s and would love to get it on the G3, getting it on my gpad 7 would be awesome too but I doubt I'll end up that lucky

Yea slim is pretty awesome, I plan on starting new with the base rom provided from AT&T and going from there as it is my first time to get into Cooking.

Not sure if you saw this... It's "unofficially" here! Other than the standard AOSP Bluetooth issue, works well!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2940752
[UNOFFICIAL]Slimkat 4.4.4 build 8.12.1[11/14/2014][Bumped]

mslatter said:
Not sure if you saw this... It's "unofficially" here! Other than the standard AOSP Bluetooth issue, works well!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2940752
[UNOFFICIAL]Slimkat 4.4.4 build 8.12.1[11/14/2014][Bumped]
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I flashed it as soon as it was released

Best ROM

Can someone please suggest a fully functional custom ROM for this TAB please. The stock ROM is too laggy - I feel like breaking the tab. I just hate Lenovo and wonder these useless guys are going to spoil the name of Motorola too by acquiring them.
I could've bought even a still cheaper chinese tablet instead.
thanks
S

Resurrection Remix
Know this thread is old but I recently started using Resurrection Remix and it was love at first sight. It has the most features of any ROM I have tried and it is still battery friendly. I have heard it can be a bit unstable but I haven't had any problems. I really recommend you try it. I have tried many ROMs and this is by far my favourite. Can't wait to they upgrade to Oreo

Hi @AnonUser101 thanks for that information. Can you also please share the link of the version that tried please.

I could find only 2 ROMs ie cm and Orion....
Just flash both and decide which suits you...
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Know this thread is old but I recently started using Resurrection Remix and it was love at first sight. It has the most features of any ROM I have tried and it is still battery friendly. I have heard it can be a bit unstable but I haven't had any problems. I really recommend you try it. I have tried many ROMs and this is by far my favourite. Can't wait to they upgrade to Oreo
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There is no rr for this tab yet afaik

Links?
Hi Could you share links to the ROMs, I see n people mention the names but it is not easy to get to the ROMs , I did Google but not useful though.

sany said:
Hi Could you share links to the ROMs, I see n people mention the names but it is not easy to get to the ROMs , I did Google but not useful though.
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cm 12 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/cyanogenmod-12-1-lenovo-tab2-a7-10f-t3478841
orion - https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/rom-orionlp-v1-8-lenovo-tab-2-a7-10f-t3480918
stock debloated - https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-stock-roms-lenovo-tab2-a7-10f-t3418256
enjoy!

Not this device
Thanks for taking time to help - but unfortunately this is not the device. I require for Tab 3 not Tab 2.
So pathetic this Lenovo is - I will surely stay away from this sick company.
S

sany said:
Thanks for taking time to help - but unfortunately this is not the device. I require for Tab 3 not Tab 2.
So pathetic this Lenovo is - I will surely stay away from this sick company.
S
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Lol it's ok but u posted in the wrong place...

There is no dedicated thread for this sick tablet, that is the issue

sany said:
There is no dedicated thread for this sick tablet, that is the issue
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Just Google to find ROMs that is the best method.....