Where Does ROM MANAGER KEEP THE BACKUPS?? - General Questions and Answers

I just installed ROM Manager on me Nexus 7 2013 last night after rooting with King root and things have been great. I even flashed Cwm recovery through it.
I backed up my existing ROM (which I think is a nandroid backup) and even though it gives me the address of where it is saved on rom manager, I don't see it. The address given is /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup but when I go there using root Explorer I dont see the backup folder.
I have tried searching using root Explorer and my computer but no luck. I can confirmed that the backup was indeed there by going into Cwm.
I'm trying to place the recovery on my computer or USB stick because it takes alot of memory.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Also do I need nandroid backups or is Titanium shell enough?
Thanks your assistance.

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[Q] Phone Backup

Hey Guys, I'm a little bit of a noob here. I have had my captivate for about 6 months now and I started to get a little frustrated with the way the Captivate was set up compared to my old HTC Hero. I didn't have to root the Hero and could do anything with it I wanted. With the captivate it was another story. I rooted the new Captivate and it has been a wild ride. I follow the forums to see what is available after having Super User installed. I have to say I went a little crazy into the exploration of what i can and cant do. I learned what I cant do the hard way and spent almost 3 day's having problems with odin3 one touch flasher. Once i got everything back running to factory settings I decided to just set up the phone the way I like it and updated the config. for example I added the root access and updated the settings.db file to allow 3rd party apk installs. I than also deleted the wealth of useless crap At&T Preloaded onto the OS such as the apps and the 20 AT&T contacts. Fortunately now my phone and layout is exactly to where I want it. Unfortunately now I am afraid to perform other root mods on the phone and have to re flash the original factory settings on it and have to set it up all over again. I am not much of a programmer but do know end user support very well and was hoping that there would be a way to create a backup of the root directory so that in case I brick my phone (happend twice when I tried to replace the launcher program) I can just flash my backup so that I don't have to install apps, configure settings, and adjust the layout all over again? I was thinking of creating an update.zip would do it that i could keep on my sd card and flash it from recovery.
Can Somebody please Help!!!
Thanks,
Jay
Generally speaking, unless you use the same ROM, it is a bad idea to restore system settings.
Check out Titanium Backup from the Market. It works really well at backing up apps, data, and system data. Be sure to get the donate version so you don't have to manually install every single app (huge time/effort saver). It won't give you an update.zip file, but if you reinstall it and point it at it's backup folder, it can restore all of your data with minimal effort.
If you are prone to bricking your phone, back it up to an external SD card by entering "/<external sd>/Titanium Backup" as the backup path, replacing <external sd> with the real path (it's different on 2.1 and 2.2 ROMs).
Good luck.
Thanks, I actually already have Titanium Backup lite and i backed it up using the batch Backup all user apps + System Data but have no idea how to restore these backups if my phone bricks. I dont necessarily want to flash the phone to try it out. Any chance you know of where i can find out a little bit more information on how to restore backups with this app?
I also have the ClockworkMod Recovery where i have backed up my phone to an SD card. It says during the process Backing up system, data, datadata and than generates an md5sum. After this the phone boots back up and I was wondering if recovering using ClockworkMod is the same as flashing an update.zip rom but instead of using the stock version? Also this app seems a lot easier to use at there is an option to reboot into recovery and select roms

Rom Manager backups my ROM, but it is not listed after reboot

Rom Manager will do a backup of my current ROM (seems to go through it OK just like on my HTC Incredible, but it is not listed after reboot. I can browse out with Astro and see all the backup rom directories with the names I've given them and files in their directories, but Rom Manager does not list them when I select Manage and Restore Backups. Any ideas why?
(I'm currently on TnT Lite v4.2.2)
I just discovered that it is listing 1 old backup. So I found that that listed backup is being stored on under sdcard, where as all the ones that are NOT showing up are being stored under sdcard2. Where/how can I point Rom Manager to sdcard2?
Also, checking the recovery.log, I jusr saw and remembered an error it displays while making the backup. "E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk2p1 (or /dev/block/mmcblk3p1)" but it continues on and 'appears' to finish normally.
Thanks for any help.
Dont use Rom Manager with the GTab right now. Only use bekit 0.8 and enter recovery with the power/vol+. Rom Manager does not play nice with our tabs and it will cause problems.
aldar5 said:
Rom Manager will do a backup of my current ROM (seems to go through it OK just like on my HTC Incredible, but it is not listed after reboot. I can browse out with Astro and see all the backup rom directories with the names I've given them and files in their directories, but Rom Manager does not list them when I select Manage and Restore Backups. Any ideas why?
(I'm currently on TnT Lite v4.2.2)
I just discovered that it is listing 1 old backup. So I found that that listed backup is being stored on under sdcard, where as all the ones that are NOT showing up are being stored under sdcard2. Where/how can I point Rom Manager to sdcard2?
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I may be incorrect, but I don't think ROM Manager identifies CWM recovery files. You would have to use CWM to locate and restore a backup that was performed with CWM.
Correct me if I am wrong guys. I use CWM only for backup and restore purposes. I have never used ROM Manager.
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Well it seems if I can just point Rom Manager to the sdcard2/clockworkmod location that would fix it. Any ideas how to do that? Maybe I could delete the sdcard/clockworkmod dir and make it a link to the sdcard2/clockworkmod dir?
Seriously....don't use Rom Manager
thebadfrog said:
Dont use Rom Manager with the GTab right now. Only use bekit 0.8 and enter recovery with the power/vol+. Rom Manager does not play nice with our tabs and it will cause problems.
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Thank you so much for your comment...I was about to use it to back up my Rom. You saved me a lot of time and effort
USE MANUAL
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Koush Ditta needs to support this device...
thebadfrog said:
Dont use Rom Manager with the GTab right now. Only use bekit 0.8 and enter recovery with the power/vol+. Rom Manager does not play nice with our tabs and it will cause problems.
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+1
ROM Manager won't work correctly with GTAB.
The install from SDCard feature, backup current rom feature, and restore backup feature will only reboot the device without doing anything
You can perform backups and restores via recovery and then rename the files via ROM Manager if you like. CWM will see the renamed file in recovery.
Also, if you update the flash recovery and decide you need to revert to a backup for some reason afterwords, it may send your device into bootloop after restore. You will need to flash to a previous version in order for the restore to work correctly.
status of rom manager for viewsonic gtab
If you google "my brain hurts rom manager"
you'll find an img file for Rom Manager posted for the vs gtab.
anyone tried this yet ?

[Completed] Unable to locate Clockworkmod Recovery backups when outside of recovery mode.

Hello,
tl;dr: My backups show up when in recovery mode but they are not recognised by Rom Manager nor can I find them using a file explorer.
Long story:
I wanted to try out a new rom so I backed up my phone via rom manager and downloaded it to my pc using the download to pc feature. I also backed up most of my apps using Helium. When I flashed the rom for some reason or another my Helium backups had disappeared so I wanted to restore my backup. It turned out the backup was also gone so I just adb pushed it back from my pc. I restored the backup but that resulted in a bootloop so I think it's a dud. I then flashed a full stock image and CWM and tried to restore only the data portion of the backup but it still made a boot loop. I flashed to stock again.
I now want to try and see if I can extract and restore individual apps from my backup using Nandroid Manager, hopefully this will get me my app data without a boot loop however my backups don't seem to be where I put them.
I pushed my backup to /data/media/clockworkmod/backup/<backupname> when in recovery mode. CWM recognises it as a backup.
Rom Manager does not recognise that it's there.
To test this, I made another backup from inside Rom Manager but even though it's recognised in CWM, Rom Manager still can't find it.
I checked out the /sdcard/clockworkmod directory in a file browser but the backups folder isn't there.
I can't restore my apps with Nandroid Manager if I can't give it the location so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Nexus 5 running Stock Android Lollipop with Clockworkmod 6.0.4.5 and Rom Manager 5.5.3.7
Hi,
I highly recommend uninstalling Rom Manager. It's been known to cause many issues, some serious too.
Then you can use this dedicated help thread for your device to ask for help,
> Google Nexus 5 > Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting > [HELP THREAD] Nexus 5 | Ask any question
Good luck!

Easiest way to keep stock apps with custom rom

I just recently treated myself to an ex-demo unit of this gloriously impractical tablet for reading digital comics on and successfully used odin to flash the proper stock firmware to get rid of demo mode.
I'm quite tempted by the custom roms available, but I'd like to keep some of the stock samsung apps, especially sketchbook for galaxy, and I'm wondering what everyone's opinion on the easiest or best way to do it is.
Do I need to install titanium backup and backup the apps I want to keep? Can I just extract the .apk files I want from the stock firmware image which I still have?
Thanks
IMO the easiest way is:
Step 1 - stay stock, do an nandroid backup in TWRP.
Step 2 - Install Titanium . . do a full backup and debloat by freezing apps and services to get rid of lag and unwanted apps . . if you end up needing it later, defrost.
Step 3 - Install Xposed Framework, and begin experimenting with custom xposed modules to add additional features.
Step 4 - install other root applications to taste.
thanks, i may ultimately end up doing that, but i would like to try different roms as there are a lot of things about the GUI that i don't like on this tablet, and i'm confident enough that i can always get back to stock using odin.
i went ahead and installed cyanogenmod and reinstalled sketchbook from a .apk i created with es file explorer, seems to have worked fine.
Glad it works, sorry that I misunderstood.
I had sketchbook too, but after flashing cm 12 I tried artflow, never went back.
goenieg said:
I had sketchbook too, but after flashing cm 12 I tried artflow, never went back.
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i'll check artflow out, i wanted to keep sketchbook just because i heard this version was made especially for this tablet and its screen.
I've had some success keeping stock apps
Mr Creosote said:
i'll check artflow out, i wanted to keep sketchbook just because i heard this version was made especially for this tablet and its screen.
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I use ES File Explorer. It has a Root explorer function which allows you to backup apps and their data. After backing up the stock app and data I have been able to transfer the app to other devices including custom roms like slimkat on my i9100. One app I've had success with is Navigon. I haven't tried sketchbook, because my tablet isn't rooted yet, but it might work. The backup directory can be customised, but its default location is on internal sd. This process of backing up leaves you with the APK and a zip file with your data. You can install ES File Explorer on the new device/rom and put the APK and zip file back into the backup directory. Then go to backup in root explorer tab of File Explorer and restore app with data, or just app. This may work.
Yep I used es file explorer in the end, and it worked. There seems to be no end to what es can do, i don't know why it doesn't appear on every list of essential/most useful droid apps. Just figured out a couple of days ago that you can use it to stream music wirelessly from a shared folder on your network. I've installed if as a system app on my phone with titanium backup and removed the stock file explorer.

[XT1032] CM 12 - Flashing TWRP v2.8.6.0 has caused bootloop

Hello,
XT1032 CM 12 latest nightly (I think)
I flashed TWRP v2.8.6.0 using their manager app. I entered recovery mode and everything seemed to work fine. I made a NANDroid backup then rebooted. Unfortunately the device was then stuck at the bootlogo and kept looping. I can still access recovery and fastboot but for some reason adb doesn't see the device, nor can my device's data be access under Windows 7. I don't recall if I had USB debugging on or not. I would like to try to backup a few files to my computer (the backup for instance) but I am unable to since I can't use adb as the device is not recognized. MTP through TWRP doesn't seem to work either. I do have the Universal drive pack installed already on Windows.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.
To start with, let's make sure the files you want still exist.
1. Boot into TWRP recovery
2. Go to "Mount" and check that your "Data" partition is selected
3. Go back and then go to "Advanced" and then to "File Manager"
4. Navigate around (maybe /sdcard/ ? Depends what you're looking for) and find the files you need
If you can't find your file, you'll need some more help. Let's say you do see your file. Do you have a USB-OTG cable? You could plug a USB drive into your phone and mount that. Then you could copy your file to that drive. If you don't have the cable you do have some other options, but let us know how far you get.
EDIT: I know I haven't addressed the problem of the bootloop at all. Many of those solutions involve wiping so we need to make sure you've backed up all the files you need first.
First of all thanks for the help. :good:
I've been trying to find a solution and in fact flashing CWM worked. I was able to adb pull all the files and make a backup.
I backed up the content of the sdcard. I tried restoring the CWM nandroid with data only so it did reinstall the apps but unfortunately all their data and settings are gone. Making a full restore just goes back to bricking. So I have the nandroid and the data manually backed up to a computer but no idea how to restore it.
I've tried pushing the nandroid back to /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup after an unsuccessful restore but now it doesn't even work. (protocol failure, the push command fails)
honestly at this point I think the best solution is just to make a clean install. In fact it would be a good idea to just reset the whole phone and start with a clean slate with CM13 including wiping system files and maybe manually restore some key files and configuration (I've got all the .com files of relevant apps)
Do you know how to do that? :laugh:
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First of all thanks for the help. :good:
I've been trying to find a solution and in fact flashing CWM worked. I was able to adb pull all the files and make a backup.
I backed up the content of the sdcard. I tried restoring the CWM nandroid with data only so it did reinstall the apps but unfortunately all their data and settings are gone. Making a full restore just goes back to bricking. So I have the nandroid and the data manually backed up to a computer but no idea how to restore it.
I've tried pushing the nandroid back to /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup after an unsuccessful restore but now it doesn't even work. (protocol failure, the push command fails)
honestly at this point I think the best solution is just to make a clean install. In fact it would be a good idea to just reset the whole phone and start with a clean slate with CM13 including wiping system files and maybe manually restore some key files and configuration (I've got all the .com files of relevant apps)
Do you know how to do that? :laugh:
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I'm not really a Nandroid expert, but I can take a few shots in the dark. When you did your backup you got a TAR file for System and one for Data, etc., right? Then you convert those to IMGs? If you upgraded and then restored the system backup I can see why that would result in a boot loop. Restoring the data image shouldn't cause such problems though. Is this what you've tried so far? You're right, though. The safest method is to manually restore the data of just the apps where you need that data, and do it one at a time. This would allow you to pinpoint what is causing the issue. Of course, I may have no idea what I'm talking about. I've never actually needed to restore a Nandroid backup! Hopefully someone with more experience there will chime in.
I thought to hell with it I went and solved the issue by installing CM13
Thanks for taking the time to help and see you next time

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