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Yesterday I missed a call because screen didn't respond on touch, I was blaming on tithering (which by the way had rebooted phone twice today), but today I've noticed when this happens and I unplug the phone, it instantaniosly fixes the screen (and buttons as well), plugging it back in, freezes it. Was playing with it for a minute just to make sure..
Anyone experiencing anything like this?
P.S.
Installed "CPU Guage" which shows cpu load in real time in tasks bar, I can see the numbers changes but nothing above 30%, so it wasn't CPU overload
i haven't had that, until about 2 minutes ago. funny this was posted just now, i just logged in to post about it, lol. but my phone has been fine, until just now. i plugged it in and when to change it to mass storage mode and it wouldn't respond. then it was kind of weird when it started responding. it eventually worked, but took a couple of swipes.
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i also notice that when unplugged, i get around 44-45 linpack, plugged in, around 35
Nope, just tested it, plugged to the wall I could answer a call normally.
it might be because of short circuit, check ur charger or charge with another charger or cable see if it happen again.
I have it too. Anytime its plugged in it will be super laggy and/or freeze.
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I haven't seen this issue on the Atrix 2 yet, but both my Samsung Moment and Samsung Epic would have screen responsiveness issues while plugged in, so it is behavior I have seen in other Android devices.
I havent had this problem. When I go to bed I put my phone on the charger, wall type, and will usually mess around on the phone for a little while before setting it down for the night. Not once has it given me this problem.
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I don't have this problem all the time either, it happened only twice in two days. Just now checked it again - no problem whatsoever...
Perhaps if we trace what is running and/or what was running before this happens, we could figure something out.
Today I was using pandora, sportypal (which by the way consumes 40% cpu at times, on Atrix 4G never had this problem) and then after these two apps where closed I used mobile hotspot.
On background two apps are always running: battery cyrlce and nettraffic (there are many more apps started but they seems to be inactive, like skype which doesn't log me in automatically)
Oh and it could make difference, I use ADWLauncher EX
I don't have any of these problems. Get up every morning and check missed calls, emails, texts and FB notifications all while being plugged into the charger. Had someone call me and I answered it on speaker phone to make sure I didn't have any problems receiving a call while plugged in either
No problems so far, but I am completely stock. Phone was purchased on the Nov. 11th
wow, just had it happen.
Don't have this problem either but I am completely stock also.
Coldheat1906
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I don't seem to have this problem in the morning either, I notice it at about 11am - 1pm
Today I've killed every apps that was running (excluded services), but it didn't help at all. I still suspect mobile hotspot though, it doesn't work properly...client's get disconnected, then would not able obtain IP.
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Make sure you are using ONLY the OEM charger and OEM cable to charge your phone. They provide an extra ground path not normally supplied which is needed by your capacitive touchscreen to function normally. A "normal" micro USB cable or USb charger does not provide this.
bigddybn said:
Make sure you are using ONLY the OEM charger and OEM cable to charge your phone. They provide an extra ground path not normally supplied which is needed by your capacitive touchscreen to function normally. A "normal" micro USB cable or USb charger does not provide this.
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I have a charger by my bed, a charger in my work van, a charger at my desk at work and a charger on my pc....of all those, only the one by my bed is the oem charger and the oem cord, my phone works perfectly on all of them.
Ok, it has nothing to do with the type of charger, it even happens when connected to PC as storage or charge only. Changing cables also have no affect.
Me too
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Yesterday I missed a call because screen didn't respond on touch, I was blaming on tithering (which by the way had rebooted phone twice today), but today I've noticed when this happens and I unplug the phone, it instantaniosly fixes the screen (and buttons as well), plugging it back in, freezes it. Was playing with it for a minute just to make sure..
Anyone experiencing anything like this?
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I had this happen A LOT! Happened almost always with one particular charger, rarely happened when hooked up to computer USB port. Never happened in car using Griffin iPad car charger.
This was one of the frustrating things about the phone for me. Just sold, and have Galaxy Note on the way.
Hey people I have this similar issue... was searching xda for anything like this but seems this is the only place there is some issue like this happening...
I have a Galaxy S2 Running Cyanogen7 ...
Now here's what IV noticed... on stock charger I have no issues at all... nor when plugged into the PC... just today it happened and I was using a iPhone charger with a OEM Samsung USB cable... it was charging fine but the screen just wouldn't respond... as soon as unplugged would be fine... so... I'm thinking it's this charger maybe giving too much power to the phone... as my stock charger is 750ma while the iPhone one is 1A... that's the farthest IV been able to think... :s
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[email protected] said:
Yesterday I missed a call because screen didn't respond on touch, I was blaming on tithering (which by the way had rebooted phone twice today), but today I've noticed when this happens and I unplug the phone, it instantaniosly fixes the screen (and buttons as well), plugging it back in, freezes it. Was playing with it for a minute just to make sure..
Anyone experiencing anything like this?
P.S.
Installed "CPU Guage" which shows cpu load in real time in tasks bar, I can see the numbers changes but nothing above 30%, so it wasn't CPU overload
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motorola contacted me to send them my phone and car dock, and they would swap them with new units so they can use mine with testing. you should go to the motorola atrix 2 owners forums and talk to mark
I've owned this phone for roughly 36 hours. I noticed last night (which is the first night owning the phone) that when the phone is charging, it doesn't seem to acknowledge my finger touching the screen. Since the phone was new, the only apps downloaded at the time were:
Lets Golf 2
Angry Birds
Tiny Bee Demo and,
AVG Anti-Virus
Things to note:
I did download the 3 games before the anti-virus program, so the possibility of a virus is there, but not likely.
I also didn't delete any apps or change any major settings that might cause the problem.
One other odd thing I noticed, I was in the middle of a text when I plugged in the charger, and that somehow made it insert a letter. I thought it was odd so I made sure it wasn't me touching the screen and tried it again, and it typed two other random numbers.
I hope this helps somebody somewhere find the fix to this problem... :cool
Edit: I have an Atrix 2
itz_speld_rong said:
I've owned this phone for roughly 36 hours. I noticed last night (which is the first night owning the phone) that when the phone is charging, it doesn't seem to acknowledge my finger touching the screen. Since the phone was new, the only apps downloaded at the time were:
Lets Golf 2
Angry Birds
Tiny Bee Demo and,
AVG Anti-Virus
Things to note:
I did download the 3 games before the anti-virus program, so the possibility of a virus is there, but not likely.
I also didn't delete any apps or change any major settings that might cause the problem.
One other odd thing I noticed, I was in the middle of a text when I plugged in the charger, and that somehow made it insert a letter. I thought it was odd so I made sure it wasn't me touching the screen and tried it again, and it typed two other random numbers.
I hope this helps somebody somewhere find the fix to this problem...
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#1 if you are downloading trusted apps, you don't need an anti-virus
#2 uninstall the anti-virus because you don't need it and it's a system resource hog
Anyone come across this? I put it on standby last night after reading a bit of my book on it, and it had around 50% power remaining. This morning, it was totally unresponsive; pressing the power button does nothing at all. I've charged it for 12 hours in the meantime.
I've done the following all with and without the power attached:
- Pressed and held power for 15 seconds through to a minute
- Pressed and held volume up with power to attempt to get into recovery for up to a minute
- Pressed and held volume down with powerfor up to a minute
- Pressed and held power while touching screen (read that one off another forum)
I guess potentially it could be on and in a crashed state and unresponsive to the power, so maybe in a weeks time when it runs out of juice, I'll be able to charge it and power it back up, but in the meantime, I'd welcome suggestions.
A few weeks ago I updated it to the official ICS build that was released, but did the update myself rather than using KIES, as KIES didn't even recognise my Tab's firmware original version. It's been absolutely fine before the update, and since. I only mention it because I've read about the Samsung build of ICS being prone to self bricking itself, but I couldn't determine what the symptoms of this vulnerability were.
Thanks for any help offered,
Will
did you try connecting USB cable and plugging it into your PC? did u get any activity? can ADB recognize your tab?
I think your tab just ran out of juice and the battery's protection circuit has kicked in. Try taking it to an electronic shop and plugging in different chargers preferably one with an output more than 2.1 amps to kickstart the charging. Plug it in and wait till the charging animation starts.
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Had the same problem while on holidays. Once the battery goes below a certain level, you won't be able to charge it through USB any more. Instead you need to use the wall charger.
I think it's bad enough that the 7.7 doesn't have a micro USB port, but things like that are just stupid and Samsung made a big mistake here. It don't think it's the same with the newer tablets though. It's also not possible to just buy cables or chargers for this strange Samsung port, so when you forget your wall charger at home at some point you won't be able to use your tablet any more.
As long as you charge with the USB cable early enough, you can avoid it though.
A few months ago I experienced the same thing, the Tab just wouldn't turn on anymore.
I tried all there is without any luck.
Contacted amazon and they replaced it with a new one in less than 48 hours.
So far not Problems with the new device.
I have the P6800 and this morning I took it off charge. Put it into standby and only used it for about 20 mins then left in standby all day. It had about 95% remaining when I did so.
Picked it up this evening and the lower left area of the screen was warm and it would not switch on. Didn't think of the ADB idea but will try this next time but I had to reset it and when it powered on tonight after the reset, it was down to 15%. Within about 2 mins of checking stuff it was down to 3%.
Something is running when it is in standby but as I can't switch it on I can't check with BetterBatteryStats or CPUState to know what is wrong.
It does this every day. I am tempted to do a factory reset and reinstall only limited software.
Dave...
I see this thread is a little old but this has just happened to my P6810 too. A pity nobody reported back what the end result was.
My device had at least 95% battery last night but today I can't get it to respond at all, I've tried the wall charger and still nothing.
Anything else someone could suggest for me?
Edit. I tried getting anything from it connected to my PC but it couldn't find a device there. However I then tried it on the wall charger again and now get a blue battery icon, quite big, with a five step animation indicating that it is charging.
No idea how it went flat as the battery on this lasts a long time assuming the screen isn't on. When it boots properly I'll have a look at what the most recent apps I installed were as it has only done this once. Before this it has been perfect for the three weeks I've had it.
Cluey said:
I see this thread is a little old but this has just happened to my P6810 too. A pity nobody reported back what the end result was.
My device had at least 95% battery last night but today I can't get it to respond at all, I've tried the wall charger and still nothing.
Anything else someone could suggest for me?
Edit. I tried getting anything from it connected to my PC but it couldn't find a device there. However I then tried it on the wall charger again and now get a blue battery icon, quite big, with a five step animation indicating that it is charging.
No idea how it went flat as the battery on this lasts a long time assuming the screen isn't on. When it boots properly I'll have a look at what the most recent apps I installed were as it has only done this once. Before this it has been perfect for the three weeks I've had it.
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This is the infamous Sleep-Of-Death issue that is randomly experienced by myself and other users here, usually happens when WiFi bugs out due to weak signal
TeeeJaay said:
This is the infamous Sleep-Of-Death issue that is randomly experienced by myself and other users here, usually happens when WiFi bugs out due to weak signal
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hhmmm, interesting.
I was having trouble with wifi just before this happened. Both my GS2 and this have been claiming to connect to my wifi but aren't actually getting an IP address from it.
I can't remember if it was last night or the night before but I manually set an IP address, the signal strength is fine as my abode isn't very big.
After it has recharged I'll have a poke and see what I can find, thanks for the reply.
So my device seems to be working fine again. It had gone SO flat that the date and time were incorrect!
After I could power it on I had a look at Better Battery Stats and nothing looked wrong so I have no idea what happened. None of the apps I'd installed the day before it played up had long wakelocks and weren't running when I turned it off.
For reference they were:
My Tracks
MyTrails
Google Earth
AndSMB
I'd turned both of the GPS tracking devices off before I turned it off for the night.
It hasn't played up since but it hasn't been long so I'll see what happens.
Yeah, the sleep of death is incredibly annoying. Honestly, the GTab 7.7 is a **** device. Samsung made way too many mistakes and won't do anything to fix it.
A similar thing happens to me every once in awhile. The way i check to make sure everything alright is to see if it boots into download mode. I just leave it plugged in for a couple hours and it eventually comes back on.
someth1ng said:
Yeah, the sleep of death is incredibly annoying. Honestly, the GTab 7.7 is a **** device. Samsung made way too many mistakes and won't do anything to fix it.
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this is why my 7.7 is the last tablet/phone from Samsung i'll never trust them they are just bombarding the market with new devices and leaving the old ones to dust
^thats what I thought too but that gs4 is really tempting. I've heard worse about HTC in that regard anyways so that why I'm not going with the one.
Finally.. i bought Sony xperia Z.
I'll sell my galaxy tab 7.7. I.m very disappointed with samsung.
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kishd said:
I think your tab just ran out of juice and the battery's protection circuit has kicked in. Try taking it to an electronic shop and plugging in different chargers preferably one with an output more than 2.1 amps to kickstart the charging. Plug it in and wait till the charging animation starts.
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Unbelievable! ... this trick still works ... thank you very much for you help ...
^^ yo, this 'trickle charge' trick did NOT work on my (long) dead P6800... any other suggestions??
Quite strange because my Samsung GT-P6800 tablet was fully charged, it went completely blank dark as if it was off. To my amazement, SMS keeps dropping and calls kept coming in. Yet it is still as blank as though the tab was off. I pressed the power button and the volume up bottom for it to reboot. It rebooted without the screen coming up. It has been blank for two days now. What could be the cause? And what possible solution can be given?
Hoping someone can help, haven't found any threads about this particular problem.
I bought a used "One X" that was totally stock and seemed to work OK. I rooted it, unlocked the bootloader, and got S-off. I then installed the newest version of Viper XL. Everything worked fine for a while but after a couple days I went to use it and it was totally dead. Battery was half charged a minute before and now nothing. Plugged it into a wall charger and USB and got nothing, not even an orange light. After trying to reboot and hard reboot it for 20 minutes I quit and just plugged it in and left it.
Checked it a few hours later and it was still the same but just for fun I tried a hard reboot again and it launched right away. It worked with no problems for another day and then same thing. When I got it restarted this time I downloaded and ran the latest RUU exe file to eliminate any problems the Roms might be causing, but no, just happened again today and was hours before I got it restarted, this time just by holding the power button.
Any ideas? All help appreciated.
Its somewhat of a known problem, but unfortunately an unknown cause, and I haven't seen any real solutions. Battery drops suddenly, no LED light, but charging for several hours brings it back. Usually happens at night, for some reason. But yours seems much more frequent than other cases I've heard. I've maybe only had this happen twice in the year+ I've had this phone. If this keeps happening every day, or close to that, its obviously a big problem.
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Its somewhat of a known problem, but unfortunately an unknown cause, and I haven't seen any real solutions. Battery drops suddenly, no LED light, but charging for several hours brings it back. Usually happens at night, for some reason. But yours seems much more frequent than other cases I've heard. I've maybe only had this happen twice in the year+ I've had this phone. If this keeps happening every day, or close to that, its obviously a big problem.
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One extra detail I left out. The phone seems to be truly off, as when I get it restarted it doesn't appear the battery was drained at all. It's basically a brick that randomly decides to come back to life. Even if I only leave it plugged in for 15 minutes and then unplug it and try restarting again, it basically comes to life with a full battery.
Strange. Maybe related to the issue I mentioned, maybe something different.
Since you ran the latest RUU, don't think there is much else that can be done. Might be a hardware issue. I would tell the seller and see how they respond. They will probably swear they didn't have the issue. But it doesn't hurt to bring it up.
My problem is little different but almost same.
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Hoping someone can help, haven't found any threads about this particular problem.
I bought a used "One X" that was totally stock and seemed to work OK. I rooted it, unlocked the bootloader, and got S-off. I then installed the newest version of Viper XL. Everything worked fine for a while but after a couple days I went to use it and it was totally dead. Battery was half charged a minute before and now nothing. Plugged it into a wall charger and USB and got nothing, not even an orange light. After trying to reboot and hard reboot it for 20 minutes I quit and just plugged it in and left it.
Checked it a few hours later and it was still the same but just for fun I tried a hard reboot again and it launched right away. It worked with no problems for another day and then same thing. When I got it restarted this time I downloaded and ran the latest RUU exe file to eliminate any problems the Roms might be causing, but no, just happened again today and was hours before I got it restarted, this time just by holding the power button.
Any ideas? All help appreciated.
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Its somewhat of a known problem, but unfortunately an unknown cause, and I haven't seen any real solutions. Battery drops suddenly, no LED light, but charging for several hours brings it back. Usually happens at night, for some reason. But yours seems much more frequent than other cases I've heard. I've maybe only had this happen twice in the year+ I've had this phone. If this keeps happening every day, or close to that, its obviously a big problem.
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My phone was working flawlessly then I connected it to usb, Display turned blank (gray) then It is dead as a brick. No lights no charging signs of life
Avikar said:
My phone was working flawlessly then I connected it to usb, Display turned blank (gray) then It is dead as a brick. No lights no charging signs of life
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Put the phone on the wall charger (not connected to your computer) for several hours (overnight) and see if there is any change.
Not sure if it's the same problem, but I had something similar happen a couple days ago while on CM 10.2 nightly:
Sudden power drop
I threw a couple logs in there, just in case they were useful.
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Put the phone on the wall charger (not connected to your computer) for several hours (overnight) and see if there is any change.
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Charged it for the whole night still the same dead phone no response... No vibrations, no screen and no LEDS.
Avikar said:
Charged it for the whole night still the same dead phone no response... No vibrations, no screen and no LEDS.
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Try the bootloader button combination. Then try it while connected to the wall charger. Similarly, just try booting normally while connected to the charger. It makes no sense, but I've seen at least one guy where this worked (bootloader button combo while connected to charger), when nothing else would make the phone boot.
Other than that, its not looking good. No LEDS, and the phone can't be read by the computer, you're pretty done. Odd that just connected to USB did this. Maybe some hardware failure related to the USB port?
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Try the bootloader button combination. Then try it while connected to the wall charger. Similarly, just try booting normally while connected to the charger. It makes no sense, but I've seen at least one guy where this worked (bootloader button combo while connected to charger), when nothing else would make the phone boot.
Other than that, its not looking good. No LEDS, and the phone can't be read by the computer, you're pretty done. Odd that just connected to USB did this. Maybe some hardware failure related to the USB port?
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Yeah even i can't digest the fact that making my phone S-off installing CM 10.2 didnt do any bad but a connection to USB killed my phone
My phone is not charging sometimes and when it is, it charges at about 1% every 15 minutes. I've tried many known working chargers and cables so rule that out. I switched custom ROMs because of this issue. and a few days in it began to happen again. What are some things that could be causing this?
Im desperate! really, it's only phone for communication. My last resort is back to stock but I really like my setup now and battery is amazing. Please help lol
If the same thing happens with several known working chargers and cables, then likely you have a hardware issue with the phone itself.
(On my first Nexus 5, the charging port came slightly loose and would only charge with the cable at a very specific angle. Got it replaced when it was still under warranty)
To be absolutely sure it's not the rom or kernel or some strange mod, make a nandroid backup, copy it to pc, then go fully back to stock. See if it charges properly.
Try out apps like Ampere etc which display the charging rate. Your battery might be dead or as mentioned in the above post
Just spent a whole day doing all that stuff, It's def the phone :'( It's absolutely heartbreaking since I don't have money to fix it......... Uuuuughh...
charging was wonky, been checking it constantly
Hi Everyone here at XDA,
I've been a keen follower of the various ongoings at XDA, ever since my first Android phone the Motorola Defy. I've had quite a few phones since then (currently rocking a yet unmodified Nexus 6P) and I've mucked about with all of them, soft bricked a couple but I've always found a way back from the dead. However, this is something that has me well and truly mystified.
My fiancé bought a OnePlus One a little over a year ago, she had some problems with the microphone during phonecalls (most likely the issue a lot of people had with the noise-cancelling mess-up) so I switched her from stock onto CyanogenMod 13, and no problems since. Phone works a charm.
But recently everything has been going south.
About two months ago the phone started charging STUPIDLY slowly, so I used an energy monitor you plug into the socket to see what was going on. Charger would pull about 2-4 watts, but if you kept plugging and unplugging the phone eventually it would pull about 8 watts, which was adequate. Then things got worse. With the phone turned on, the charger would pull barely 2 watts, turn it off, immediately it would pull 9 watts.
Now it's started to randomly reboot, sometimes getting stuck in a bootloop for 5-10 minutes before booting again. I've spent all day today flashing various ROM's and kernels, and still the issue persists.
We've tried the phone with different chargers to the same result.
Has anybody got any idea what's wrong with the bloomin' thing?
Any advice on what I could try would be massively appreciated.
Cheers in advance
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Hi Everyone here at XDA,
I've been a keen follower of the various ongoings at XDA, ever since my first Android phone the Motorola Defy. I've had quite a few phones since then (currently rocking a yet unmodified Nexus 6P) and I've mucked about with all of them, soft bricked a couple but I've always found a way back from the dead. However, this is something that has me well and truly mystified.
My fiancé bought a OnePlus One a little over a year ago, she had some problems with the microphone during phonecalls (most likely the issue a lot of people had with the noise-cancelling mess-up) so I switched her from stock onto CyanogenMod 13, and no problems since. Phone works a charm.
But recently everything has been going south.
About two months ago the phone started charging STUPIDLY slowly, so I used an energy monitor you plug into the socket to see what was going on. Charger would pull about 2-4 watts, but if you kept plugging and unplugging the phone eventually it would pull about 8 watts, which was adequate. Then things got worse. With the phone turned on, the charger would pull barely 2 watts, turn it off, immediately it would pull 9 watts.
Now it's started to randomly reboot, sometimes getting stuck in a bootloop for 5-10 minutes before booting again. I've spent all day today flashing various ROM's and kernels, and still the issue persists.
We've tried the phone with different chargers to the same result.
Has anybody got any idea what's wrong with the bloomin' thing?
Any advice on what I could try would be massively appreciated.
Cheers in advance
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Different cables as well? The cable seriously does make or break it.
If not that, not sure what it could be... What I can say is, replacing the battery isn't terribly difficult, so if you suspect that at all, it's a fix you can do yourself and for pretty cheap.
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Different cables as well? The cable seriously does make or break it.
If not that, not sure what it could be... What I can say is, replacing the battery isn't terribly difficult, so if you suspect that at all, it's a fix you can do yourself and for pretty cheap.
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Thanks for the advice, but sadly it's not the cable. Or the charger for that matter. The readings I get from the energy meter are too consistent. After plugging and unplugging several times the phone will eventually pull EXACTLY 3.8 watts. No more, no less, irregardless of battery percentage. As soon as the phone is turned off and plugged in, starts pulling anywhere from 7 - 12 watts, which is normal pull I expect.
Hence why I suspected a dodgy kernel, but no luck :'(
Hello
Hello, I had a not that much similar problem a month ago but i'm sharing and it might help (you never know). I was on a custom CM13 based rom and phone started overheating even when not in use, charging slow. When I let it charge overnight I would find it very hot and almost always stuck and 99%. Clean flashed different roms and the same continued to happen and it really got me worried!
Than I thought before ordering a new battery or charger lets try something really stock. I installed lastest OxygenOS and viola problem went away. (be careful and follow the steps you need to flash OxygenOS, it is NOT recommended you flash it via twrp). After that flashed twrp again and custom roms and havent had that problem again.
Hope it helps
Yeah, I would say your most probable culprit at this point might just be the OS. Try a clean flash and/or a different nightly or release. Try also a different Gapps package (you never know if it's not so much the OS, but maybe an interaction between OS and other software.
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Thanks for the advice, I've finally managed to free up an evening tonight so I'll try putting the phone back to stock. Hopefully it'll work! I'll post back to let you know if I've had any luck.
Put the phone back to stock Oxygen OS, and no luck. Going to use the Tamper Reset Script and try sending it back to Oneplus. Makes me sad that I couldn't sort it myself :crying: