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[Q] Note 10.1 4G N8020 messed up

Hi all. Tried my first root + custom rom installation and i messed up the device..
i had the newest KIES firmware update (phone XXBMA5) and (XXBMA6) and i rooted the device with odin (3.07). That went OK.
Then i installed the CWM recovery with odin and that was OK too.
Then i downloaded the latest Omega Rom (i missread that it supports N8020) and followed the installation instructions to the point where it started installing Omega V2.0 from SDCARD and then it asked me to select device from a list that included only (N8000,N8010,N8013)..
So the situation now is that i have working odin, working CWM and backup of the EFS (img+tar) but no working recovery. i live in Finland and the device is Sonera locked i think, so the stock roms (international) do not work i guess.
KIES has a backup of my Note but i can't even get to a point where KIES discovers the device.
So basically i think i need a working ROM for my model (Note 10.1 4G N8020), or can i recover the original samsung software somehow ?
Any advices ?

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Just a thought, but can't you reflash CWM or the stock recovery?
If you didn't install the rom why do you need to re-install anything. Just powering down and powering up should have left you as was....

Alajarvi84 said:
working CWM .......... but no working recovery.
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Maybe i'm missing something but isn't CWM your custom recovery?
It doesn't sound like you've actually installed any rom yet.The Omega installer doesn't actually install anything until a few steps after the one you mentioned about the model type.
I'm with ultramag69 on this one. You should still be on a stock rom unless you already wiped your original rom.

Hi again. Problem solved, just had to do emergency thing from KIES. Like i said this was the first time trying root + custom ro install and to be honest it went to ****. Somehow i managed to delete the stock firmware so that is why the recovery gave me (no files). I did make some backup but when tried to restore it said MD5 mismatch or something. At first the KIES emergency recovery could not find the device, but after i switched from CWMcto stock recovery it worked.
So what did i learn from all this ? Nothing, because i am getting too old (tired+lazy ) to do proper investigation. So one could say my strategy is to bang my head to the wall as long as it takes to go trough. Even if i could just go around it
So basically i am now at the point where i started, with stock 4.1.2 rooted. Used the triangle away to wipe the (6) custom installs or something away, but it still says custom in the settings> information. Does this mean that OTA won't work ? Any way around it ? Because i would like to check now and then that is my version of android the newest one..
Could someone recommend a custom ROM for my Note 10.1 4G (LTE) N8020 4.1.2 because the only one i was able to find was the CyanogenMod (or something) and it basically makes the S-Pen (almost) useless. What i would like is the Omega ROM, but like stated before the installation only supported N8000, N8010 & N8013...
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Thanks anyway

What is truly amazing is that i did not brick the device tough..

switch from cwm to stock
Alajarvi84 said:
Hi again. Problem solved, just had to do emergency thing from KIES. Like i said this was the first time trying root + custom ro install and to be honest it went to ****. Somehow i managed to delete the stock firmware so that is why the recovery gave me (no files). I did make some backup but when tried to restore it said MD5 mismatch or something. At first the KIES emergency recovery could not find the device, but after i switched from CWMcto stock recovery it worked.
So what did i learn from all this ? Nothing, because i am getting too old (tired+lazy ) to do proper investigation. So one could say my strategy is to bang my head to the wall as long as it takes to go trough. Even if i could just go around it
So basically i am now at the point where i started, with stock 4.1.2 rooted. Used the triangle away to wipe the (6) custom installs or something away, but it still says custom in the settings> information. Does this mean that OTA won't work ? Any way around it ? Because i would like to check now and then that is my version of android the newest one..
Could someone recommend a custom ROM for my Note 10.1 4G (LTE) N8020 4.1.2 because the only one i was able to find was the CyanogenMod (or something) and it basically makes the S-Pen (almost) useless. What i would like is the Omega ROM, but like stated before the installation only supported N8000, N8010 & N8013...
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Thanks anyway
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How did you switch from CWM to stock? I have having a problem syncing with kies also using omega rom on n8013.

jjndimp said:
How did you switch from CWM to stock? I have having a problem syncing with kies also using omega rom on n8013.
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I was not easy, i just tried the download mode over and over again with KIES open in windows and somehow it finally did find my device and offered a emergency restore. That is it, and the device was restored to default "original state".

OMG.... one would think after nearly having bricked your device you would either A) stop messing around with it or, B) read and learn more about what you're wanting to achieve and THEN maybe trying something with the ABSOLUTE certainty that a backup to restore is available to you in case of any mishap!
Moral of story :
Don't do anything until you are absolutely sure you have read EVERYTHING about what you are going to do.
For others wanting to mess with their devices, take heed! You may not be as lucky as OP (or troller) whichever is applicable.

There comes a certain point, that when crossed one does not care what happens to the device at hand. After fighting with my n8020 for several days in a row i couldn't care less, and like said before i dont have the level of enhusiasm like i had when i was younger. Of course i know now what went wrong.. But seriously, these are just overpriced toys, so it's not a matter of life and death.
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[ROM] Tab 3 7.0 SM-T210/R Stock 4.4.2 KitKat Update

This is the stock US KitKat ROM for The Galaxy Tab 3 7" Tablet. Finally found it after a bunch of hassle online, and figured I'd post it here to make things easier for everyone.
When I Odin'd this ROM, it actually upgraded my tablet, and left all my items installed (not guaranteeing this will work the same for everyone else).
Afterwards, I just Odin'd TWRP to reroot using Chainfire's SuperSU (no other Superuser would work) and called it good.
Caution: if you are using a custom ROM, this may not work without reflashing stock 4.1.2 since the 4.4.2 ROM appears to be an update, rather than a full ROM.
Rooted devices and custom kernels that are otherwise stock should be fine.
The cache, and if possible dalvik-cache should be cleared before flashing. Some of those files can sometimes interfere with upgrades.
It might be necessary to pinpoint apps that are force closing, uninstall and reinstall them. Some apps, particularly paid apps, store their data differently on KitKat, and will automatically fail as a result.
If that fails, it might be necessary to factory reset the device.
The Stock 4.1.2 ROM for the T210R is available here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-stock-sm-t210r-4-1-2-jellybean-odin-t2958676
The T210R...XAR file is for the 210R:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2iEgzRTFjrQTmI0ZjRBbWtOajQ&authuser=0
The ITV file is for the T210 (no R)
To download these ROMs, a torrent client is required (such as utorrent).
Anyone who wishes to contribute, please seed if you can after downloading ("Force Starting" the torrent will seed it indefinitely.)

Can I flash this on the SM-T210?

john410 said:
Can I flash this on the SM-T210?
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I've seen both devices referenced together quite regularly, implying that they use the same ROM.
http://www.boeboer.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-3-7-sm-t210r-manual-guide-wifi/
And even use the same kernel from what I've read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439564
I would take standard precautions, such as having a odin image of your original software available and performing a backup of your current system (if able).
Perhaps someone else has some insight to this question?
edit: Looks like I had my information wrong. Found where I obtained the ROM from, it is for the T210R model, and was not intended for the T210.
There are custom ROMs that have been patched for use on both devices, which is where my confusion came from, but this is an official ROM.
I have gotten my hands on the T210(no R) ROM file, and have update the Links above.
I am not responsible for any failed attempts at flashing to either device.

Greaper88 said:
I've seen both devices referenced together quite regularly, implying that they use the same ROM.
http://www.boeboer.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-3-7-sm-t210r-manual-guide-wifi/
And even use the same kernel from what I've read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439564
I would take standard precautions, such as having a odin image of your original software available and performing a backup of your current system (if able).
Perhaps someone else has some insight to this question?
edit: Looks like I had my information wrong. Found where I obtained the ROM from, it is for the T210R model, and was not intended for the T210.
There are custom ROMs that have been patched for use on both devices, which is where my confusion came from, but this is an official ROM.
I have gotten my hands on the T210(no R) ROM file, and have update the Links above.
I am not responsible for any failed attempts at flashing to either device.
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First, thanks for this. I have the T210R. I tried using this and had the same result, it updated the tablet instead of loading a completely new version. I did however run into a problem...the tablet had many for closes and reboots to a point it was unusable and so I reverted back to my backup. Did you see this? Maybe I had a bad download?

[email protected] said:
First, thanks for this. I have the T210R. I tried using this and had the same result, it updated the tablet instead of loading a completely new version. I did however run into a problem...the tablet had many for closes and reboots to a point it was unusable and so I reverted back to my backup. Did you see this? Maybe I had a bad download?
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I did not have this problem, but I didn't have much on my Tab either. (Some apps don't play well with KitKat upgrades.)
Torrents have multiple segmented hashchecks to make sure you get an uncorrupted download, but it might still be possible. I'm reasonably sure my file is OK since I've used it (can't speak for the non R file though).
Did you clear your cache, and if possible your dalvik cache? I've read that some of those files interfere with upgrades.
If you can pinpoint the apps that are force closing, uninstall and reinstall them. Some apps, particularly paid apps, store their data differently on KitKat, and will automatically fail as a result.
Other option would be to try a factory reset and see if that fixes it. (I understand not wanting to do that though.)
One more thing, if your ROM isn't stock, or stock rooted (custom kernel should be ok too), you may have to flash 4.2 before the 4.4 ROM will work on the device.

Right guys, here i go, just joined and first question!!!
i have not ever rooted a sm-t210 but it was rooted when i bought it second hand!
i have linux installed on my p.c. and was wondering if there is a way to upgrade to and official KITKAT!
as stated i am having problems because my SM-T210 wifi only! and want to update to kitkat official release!
but was hoping also that there is a way/method to root via LINX and not via windows!!
if that is not possible how do i go about it on windows!! as i can use a friends WINDOWS-P.C. if i must!
ah also my SM-T210 does not have the options to change the function of the USB-function,,,
i.e.
it used to have an option to,, use as a mass storege, media transfer or use with samsung keis,,, or some thing of the sort
but this option has dissapeared! may have been my fault!!!! as i uninstalled some system apps,
now it crashes and reboots whenever i try to turn of USB-DEBUGGING options in DEVELOPER-OPTIONS !!!!
many thanks in advance,
Void.Naught

void.naught said:
Right guys, here i go, just joined and first question!!!
i have not ever rooted a sm-t210 but it was rooted when i bought it second hand!
i have linux installed on my p.c. and was wondering if there is a way to upgrade to and official KITKAT!
as stated i am having problems because my SM-T210 wifi only! and want to update to kitkat official release!
but was hoping also that there is a way/method to root via LINX and not via windows!!
if that is not possible how do i go about it on windows!! as i can use a friends WINDOWS-P.C. if i must!
ah also my SM-T210 does not have the options to change the function of the USB-function,,,
i.e.
it used to have an option to,, use as a mass storege, media transfer or use with samsung keis,,, or some thing of the sort
but this option has dissapeared! may have been my fault!!!! as i uninstalled some system apps,
now it crashes and reboots whenever i try to turn of USB-DEBUGGING options in DEVELOPER-OPTIONS !!!!
many thanks in advance,
Void.Naught
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I do know that Heimdall is a multiplatform flashing tool substitute for Odin. Check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/general/root-sm-t210-r-using-heimdall-t2936061
for more info. Hope it helps.

thank you for finding and posting the correct files for this tab

hi i have a galaxy tab kid t2105 rooted, is it possible to install any other rom after 4.1.2?

Greaper88 said:
Rooted devices and custom kernels that are otherwise stock should be fine.
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Just to triple check, by the above quote you mean that if my tablet is currently rooted, I should still be fine to flash this update correct? [obviously it would become non-rooted once flashed and I'd have to re-root it as you mentioned you rooted after installing]
Also, how much space does this take up?
thanks
~J

ubuntujason said:
Just to triple check, by the above quote you mean that if my tablet is currently rooted, I should still be fine to flash this update correct? [obviously it would become non-rooted once flashed and I'd have to re-root it as you mentioned you rooted after installing]
Also, how much space does this take up?
thanks
~J
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That is correct. I was rooted running the Werewolf custom OC kernel. I still had my tablet upgrade without wiping, and one other user has reported back saying the same. But I can not promise upgrade as opposed to overwrite.
The flash file once extracted, is about 1.4 GB, I don't know sizes beyond that. It does not repartition the tablet however.

Greaper88 said:
That is correct. I was rooted running the Werewolf custom OC kernel. I still had my tablet upgrade without wiping, and one other user has reported back saying the same. But I can not promise upgrade as opposed to overwrite.
The flash file once extracted, is about 1.4 GB, I don't know sizes beyond that. It does not repartition the tablet however.
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Awesome, thanks!
~J

Could you upload the T210 ITV file? This torrent is going to take 10 hours

No system file
Well this is awesome, system won't mount and I don't have a backup. Samsung website does NOT have the stock firmware, and attempting to get it for another country just to get this to load so I can flash a ROM leaves me with having to download at 15kbs. I am in the process of selling this to someone for their kid... And there are ZERO seeders for these files. Lovely.

Sorry, m'y post an error

ragnaroksangel said:
Well this is awesome, system won't mount and I don't have a backup. Samsung website does NOT have the stock firmware, and attempting to get it for another country just to get this to load so I can flash a ROM leaves me with having to download at 15kbs. I am in the process of selling this to someone for their kid... And there are ZERO seeders for these files. Lovely.
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Are you looking for the Stock Rom?

Darthlord064 said:
Are you looking for the Stock Rom?
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I am, can you help?

Greaper88 said:
I do know that Heimdall is a multiplatform flashing tool substitute for Odin. Check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/general/root-sm-t210-r-using-heimdall-t2936061
for more info. Hope it helps.
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For some (unknown) reason, Odin3 nor JOdin3 doesn't seem to work for flashing my Samsung Galaxy Tab3 device. For that reason I tried Heimdall-Frontend, but to make that work you need to extract the content of a stock ROM first.
Anyways, it still didn't lead to get my device into factory reset yet.
But that's another story on which I still have not yet found the answers needed to get the device successfully back into factory reset.
My guess is that the 'system.img' file, of Android 4.4.2, successfully has been loaded from Heimdall-Frontend, yet by going into reboot right away after Heimdall-Frontend releases the connected device, the download may be deleted.
I read that the cause of that may lie in the fact that Android 4.4.2 is only an update and no full ROM.

[Q] how to update a 5.0.1 rooted?

Hey community,
after updating my 5.0 LTE 32 Shield Tablet some month ago and rooting it, I came to the conclusion that I don't really need root, but would like to continue receiving OTAs and have a device that just works.
Prio1:
Have a tablet with the latest updates installed.
Prio2:
As 1, but rooted.
I have made a apps+sysapps backup with Titanium.
What do you recommend as the next step?
Thank you very much.
All the best, Esshahn

Some additions:
1. I noticed I'm actually having 5.0 on my Shield. It's the 5.0.1 update plus the nVidia stuff that comes up all the time in the notification center.
I really just want to undo all root and whatnot actions and have a right out of the box experience on my Shield. I already did some stupid stuff (factory reset) and therefore lost my personal data anyway, so there's nothing to lose.
I noticed this forum isn't really active. If anyone doesn't know the answer, but could point me to the right forum for help that would be nice too.
Thank you

flash the full OTA through recovery: https://forums.geforce.com/default/...hread-released-2-17-15-/post/4464815/#4464815
then reinstall supersu through recovery, no factory reset needed

Thank you for replying.
I got annoyed by it all yesterday and flashed 2.1, now I don't have root or custom recovery anymore.
Now the fun part: When I want to update to 2.2 normally (since it's now supposed to be a standard device without any hacks), it just shows the error robot.
So now I'm stuck with 2.1 and can't move left or right.
After reading all those comments about messed up colors in 2.2 I'm wondering if its actually worth the effort to update?
Any idea on that Bogdacutu?
Thanks,
Esshahn

Esshahn said:
Thank you for replying.
I got annoyed by it all yesterday and flashed 2.1, now I don't have root or custom recovery anymore.
Now the fun part: When I want to update to 2.2 normally (since it's now supposed to be a standard device without any hacks), it just shows the error robot.
So now I'm stuck with 2.1 and can't move left or right.
After reading all those comments about messed up colors in 2.2 I'm wondering if its actually worth the effort to update?
Any idea on that Bogdacutu?
Thanks,
Esshahn
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you can flash the full OTA through TWRP or CWM, no idea why it won't work with stock recovery though
the update supposedly fixes the graphics glitches that appear in various apps on update 2.1, that might be a good reason to update

Thank you!
Actually, since I didn't have CWM installed anymore, I just sideloaded the latest OTA, which worked nice.

How to upgrade & root Note 10.1 N8013, running stock 4.1.2?

Hello all! OK, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (GT-N8013) that I'm still using and love, still running stock everything (Android 4.1.2, Build JZO54K.N8013UEUCMA3). Ideally, I'd like to upgrade to 4.4.2 and root it.
I checked the "Software Update" link on the device (in Settings), and sure enough, it says that I have I have an update downloaded...I'm thinking that it's an update to 4.4.2 that was pushed out to this device some time ago, but I'm not sure...I'm worried that it's some sort of "Samsung-software-only" update or something similarly useless that I may like less than what I have. So I have several questions:
1) Has anyone else experienced this before who can say what this update most likely is? If it's not 4.4.2, what is it?
2) I want to root this device, but from the different forums I've been reading, it appears that it's easier to root 4.1.2; rooting 4.4.2 seems to have met with mixed success, and that makes me nervous. But if I root, I won't be able to do the software update (and I don't want to deal with the custom 4.4.2 roms out there unless I have to, as the process seems very involved).
Does anyone have some insight or advice? Am I wrong about the difficulty involved in rooting stock 4.4.2? Thanks in advance for all your input!

4.1.2 is the last release for N8013 .
Custom Roms have 4.4.2 .
Question is why do you want to root ?

JJEgan said:
4.1.2 is the last release for N8013 .
Custom Roms have 4.4.2 .
Question is why do you want to root ?
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Hello JJegan...thanks for responding to me!
I successfully rooted my phone (a Samsung Galaxy S4) some time ago, and I love it...rooting gives me more finely-grained control over my device, particularly since a lot of apps ask for (in my opinion) rather intrusive permissions (e.g., why should a word-processing app want to know my location?). I have an app on my phone that monitors permissions requested and gives me the option to allow or deny access; I feel better having that and I just wanted to add that to my tablet.
If you're saying that 4.1.2 is the last release (that's what my tablet came with), then what is this software update the tablet is referring to? Also: I have noticed a few custom ROMs available for the 8013, but a lot of them are quite involved and require some unsettling jerry-rigging (e.g., after installation you must disable the phone portion of the ROM because it is added in by default, then you must install a Wi-Fi fix afterward that some users have reported does not always work, etc.)...so I'm worried about that option. But even if I find a custom 4.4.2 ROM that works great, would I be able to root after installing it?
Thanks!

But even if I find a custom 4.4.2 ROM that works great, would I be able to root after installing it?
YES via SuperSu

JJEgan said:
But even if I find a custom 4.4.2 ROM that works great, would I be able to root after installing it?
YES via SuperSu
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I have SuperSU on my rooted phone: correct me if I'm wrong, but SuperSU only allows you to manage superuser access for your apps, right? I don't think that app itself can give you root. I'm thinking I'll have to use the second of two methods mentioned in this post, but there have been conflicting reports of whether this works on an N8013 running 4.4.2.
Oh, and for anyone else who might be researching this thread with similar questions in the future: I managed to reach someone in Samsung customer support (wow!): If you have the stock Android 4.1.2 on your Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8013, the software update that the machine may say is available to you is an update to 4.2.2 and that is "the most recent update" (read: last one) provided for this model. You'll have to find a custom ROM to get it to 4.4.2...very disappointed in that!

Long time since i actually rooted . As i understand the supersu zip flashed through TWRP recovery will root your phone .
https://download.chainfire.eu/1003/SuperSU/SR1-SuperSU-v2.78-SR1-20160915123031.zip
4.1.2 is the last listed release from Samsung .for N8013 .
N8010 is up to 4.4.2 as stock rom .

First Phone Steps. (What to do first) ?

Coming off of the Samsung S5 and going to the Honor 8 (Phone should be here tommorow)
On the samsung I had safestrap loaded for recovery, rooted, xposed, and many rooted apps.
I was also running stock rom because of lack of room, also lack of options.
The honor 8 looks like it is easy to get TWRP on it and get it unlocked bootloader.
Not sure about custom roms , looks like there are a few but is stock good ?
Also what about emui5 ?
Here is my current plan unless other suggestions:
Do titanium backup and nandroid on old phone.
Remove Sim and SD
Activate new phone with current sim (May need to go to att to trim)
Unlock Honor 8 bootloader.
Get TWRP loaded.
Root phone
load exposed , SU, Busy box, TB, (not in that order)
Load apps from Google play and overwrite data from TB if needed.
That is about it, so if I do this right should have stock rom and fully rooted and recovery.
currently looking at using Somboons tool for most of it.
This is a repost of my origional , but did in the wrong forums opps on my part.

I think before any mod on this device get used to the function of the unmodified device. And there after do your mods if you happy, unless you've already used this device.

eracet said:
Coming off of the Samsung S5 and going to the Honor 8 (Phone should be here tommorow)
On the samsung I had safestrap loaded for recovery, rooted, xposed, and many rooted apps.
I was also running stock rom because of lack of room, also lack of options.
The honor 8 looks like it is easy to get TWRP on it and get it unlocked bootloader.
Not sure about custom roms , looks like there are a few but is stock good ?
Also what about emui5 ?
Here is my current plan unless other suggestions:
Do titanium backup and nandroid on old phone.
Remove Sim and SD
Activate new phone with current sim (May need to go to att to trim)
Unlock Honor 8 bootloader.
Get TWRP loaded.
Root phone
load exposed , SU, Busy box, TB, (not in that order)
Load apps from Google play and overwrite data from TB if needed.
That is about it, so if I do this right should have stock rom and fully rooted and recovery.
currently looking at using Somboons tool for most of it.
This is a repost of my origional , but did in the wrong forums opps on my part.
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I have just got my honor 8 and all my other phones have been rooted and using custom Roms.
With this and with the updates and beta N I'm finding that I don't have to.
Using this ROM and using the custom themes that are available it's enough to keep me happy.
I'm looking forward to 2 years worth of updates.
It's an excellent phone and I really like the EMUI 5
Think hard before you root etc. There ain't any finished custom roms as yet.
There is no need to root to get rid of bloatware as the Rom let's you delete most of what you don't want.
Why you need to root ?
Try the phone and see what you can do.
Have fun
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs

johnhux7 said:
I have just got my honor 8 and all my other phones have been rooted and using custom Roms.
With this and with the updates and beta N I'm finding that I don't have to.
Using this ROM and using the custom themes that are available it's enough to keep me happy.
I'm looking forward to 2 years worth of updates.
It's an excellent phone and I really like the EMUI 5
Think hard before you root etc. There ain't any finished custom roms as yet.
There is no need to root to get rid of bloatware as the Rom let's you delete most of what you don't want.
Why you need to root ?
Try the phone and see what you can do.
Have fun
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
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I root for many programs , titanium backup , es file explorer, APs toSD pro, xposed and some others.
On the same Samsung there was tons of junk on it.
I know if I go TWRP there isnt much use at the moment. Unless I need to sideload something.
Don't really need a custom rom, not yet at least.
Wondering if I root and keep the stock rom would be the best thing.
Can I load TWRP later ?
Heard it will break the EMUI 5 update.
Or I could always do TWRP , Root etc and then load EUMI 5 or custom version manually someday.

eracet said:
I root for many programs , titanium backup , es file explorer, APs toSD pro, xposed and some others.
On the same Samsung there was tons of junk on it.
I know if I go TWRP there isnt much use at the moment. Unless I need to sideload something.
Don't really need a custom rom, not yet at least.
Wondering if I root and keep the stock rom would be the best thing.
Can I load TWRP later ?
Heard it will break the EMUI 5 update.
Or I could always do TWRP , Root etc and then load EUMI 5 or custom version manually someday.
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Yes mate you could root and keep the stock ROM but you will lose the option to get the OTA updates.
Just way up the pro's and cons and see if you really need to root.
I used to use titanium back up and yes it's a great app but there ain't really many options of custom ROMs to go back and forward between to need it in my case. Also now that as soon as you log into your Google account when going into a new rom you get your apps back anyway.
I have a couple of phones and I have root and am running CM14.1 on one of them and I can do more with this EMUI 5 beta N as I can do with CM14.1 !
I personally am gonna stick with stock on this phone for a good while. (At least till there are loads of roms to choose from)
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs

johnhux7 said:
Yes mate you could root and keep the stock ROM but you will lose the option to get the OTA updates.
Just way up the pro's and cons and see if you really need to root.
I used to use titanium back up and yes it's a great app but there ain't really many options of custom ROMs to go back and forward between to need it in my case. Also now that as soon as you log into your Google account when going into a new rom you get your apps back anyway.
I have a couple of phones and I have root and am running CM14.1 on one of them and I can do more with this EMUI 5 beta N as I can do with CM14.1 !
I personally am gonna stick with stock on this phone for a good while. (At least till there are loads of roms to choose from)
John
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Is the EMUI 5.0 only coming on a Push update?
Or is it possible to flash it or any custom coming out with it. ?
I seen there is a signup for beta now.
I do need root ( I dont save anything to the cloud services) all local
Apps themselves will load from play store and amazon store, just the game data or any other data will be manual reinstall.
From what I understand if I dont install custom recovery I can still get the OTA update when it is time.

eracet said:
Is the EMUI 5.0 only coming on a Push update?
Or is it possible to flash it or any custom coming out with it. ?
I seen there is a signup for beta now.
I do need root ( I dont save anything to the cloud services) all local
Apps themselves will load from play store and amazon store, just the game data or any other data will be manual reinstall.
From what I understand if I dont install custom recovery I can still get the OTA update when it is time.
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When I got the beta N update it came as an OTA update although i do think that there are some links to getting it via twrp over in the roms thread. I might be wrong with that though. Have a look
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I were also used to root on all my previous phones including the last one I moved from which was the Galaxy S4.
EMUI has so many nice functions (including choosing whether standard storage should be internal or external) so I actually don't need root anymore. Not even for blocking ads since that can be done through VPN.
If you want to move over your app date without root then do a backup with ADB.
Search for "adb backup" and you'll find a XDA thread about it. I made such a backup and got all my app data moved over along with the apps.
Oh yeah, and personally I'm using Evie for a launcher but when EMUI 5 is published I think I'll move back to the stock launcher.
Bro, the stock ROM rocks with its customisability!
And one more thing; if you're eligible to get an extra year of warranty plus 3 months of free screen change in case it cracks then remember to sign up through the HiCare app.

I'll also be getting my Honor 8 shortly. The only reason I've rooted my phones in the past is for ad blocking. I see there's an app called "Block This" that does not require root? Will that work on this phone?

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I'll also be getting my Honor 8 shortly. The only reason I've rooted my phones in the past is for ad blocking. I see there's an app called "Block This" that does not require root? Will that work on this phone?
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I've used AdGuard and it's brilliant, but it's not free.
EDIT: I'm currently using "Block This!" and it's working very well!

I use root for some games, game guardian.
Some games are pay to win. ( I don't mind paying some but don't rob me)
I did get the phone working with my cell company and currently getting the Sd card backed up just in case something goes wrong somewhere.
Looking at getting a bootloader unlock code, but there site doesn't seem to be working right.
Thanks for the suggestions on steps to do.
Read multiple tips and ideas.
Next step is get SD card installed and getting google account loaded up.

Well I installed everything, only thing I don't like so far is it forces apps like hangouts.
I know it was recommended that I do not to TWRP or root, but I did anyways. ( I took suggestions very serious Thank you)
Now trying to get used to setup is a little challanging, maybe playing around with it will help a lot.
Such as hard to find what actual apps I have like an app drawer.
You people are the best at helping out . Thank you so much for helping me get on track !

Just got my H8 on monday (FRD-L14) and am in the same boat- thinking of Rooting but with the lack of ROM support at the moment I think I'm going to stay stock for a bit. There are some xposed mods that i'd like to get back but the stock features are pretty solid as it is. I did the CM theme, Apex launcher, changed out Icons and I'm pretty damn happy with it!

flet2 said:
Just got my H8 on monday (FRD-L14) and am in the same boat- thinking of Rooting but with the lack of ROM support at the moment I think I'm going to stay stock for a bit. There are some xposed mods that i'd like to get back but the stock features are pretty solid as it is. I did the CM theme, Apex launcher, changed out Icons and I'm pretty damn happy with it!
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I have the same model now FRD-L14.
Recovery , rooted, SU, xposed, F-droid.
Loaded my 20 root apps
I did not see a way to root without loading recovery.
There is another thread on TWRP.
What my plan down the road is to keep it like this , then eventtually (I assume early next year) see some development from Roms etc.
Hopefully a modified EUMI 5.
One of the major reasons I did not wait to start the process is because when you unlock bootloader it wipes.
So doing this now I cna set the phone up how I like. Then when the updating begins I can always go back to nandroid backup if something goes wrong.
Even though ATM the TWRP isnt backing up my rom (will update recovery when it does).

Nice- so i assume all the current "how to's" work fine for the L14? I've been reluctant to meddle too much since our model isn't specifically mentioned in most of the post here (though i assume anything for L04 applies). That and I don't see a stock firmware package out there to go back to if something goes wrong. I'm not a total noob but have only rooted and ROM'd with samsung devices so far (GS 2 and 3) which are so well documented and tested you really can't screw it up.

I'm really conflicted. I want to root simply because of the option for backing up app data rooted. I could care less about custom ROMs right now, but I want to be able to back up the data inside my apps like all the settings, messages, accounts etc etc. It is really annoying to me that I have to reset that when switching phones. I hate to say it but it seems like Apple does this better with iTunes backups (which is not an option for me though because I don't want to pay the money for an iDevice).
My issue on the H8 though is I rooted it just fine but then realized I forgot to do OTA updates first. So I did the OTA updates (full download) which basically re-locked, re-stocked my bootloader and unrooted the phone. Now in order to re-root, I have to go through unlocking again which is going to wipe all the customizations I already did. I really wish there was a way to keep a stock image WITH root but continue to do OTA updates...