Hi
If I get stock rom with Smart Switch, will that enable Samsung Pay again or once rooted, it's gone forever? (Rooted with CF-Autoroot).
Thanks in advance
Faspaiso said:
Hi
If I get stock rom with Smart Switch, will that enable Samsung Pay again or once rooted, it's gone forever? (Rooted with CF-Autoroot).
Thanks in advance
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How would anyone know?
Faspaiso said:
Hi
If I get stock rom with Smart Switch, will that enable Samsung Pay again or once rooted, it's gone forever? (Rooted with CF-Autoroot).
Thanks in advance
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I believe that Samsung may have confirmed that once Knox is tripped, that's it. No more Samsung Pay.
Yep: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ox-disable-t3089224/post60274180#post60274180
bloodrain954 said:
How would anyone know?
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Well, as you can see someone knew. There is almost always someone that have some information or heard something somewhere. I just couldn't find any information myself.
Japultra said:
I believe that Samsung may have confirmed that once Knox is tripped, that's it. No more Samsung Pay.
Yep: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ox-disable-t3089224/post60274180#post60274180
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Thank you for a helpful answer. :good:
Faspaiso said:
Well, as you can see someone knew. There is almost always someone that have some information or heard something somewhere. I just couldn't find any information myself.
Thank you for a helpful answer. :good:
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I think Bloodrain's point is that it is hard to tell what can be circumvented with system hacking.
I could have answered and told you that Samsung directly told me that rooting will trip Knox and both disable Samsung pay as well as the warranty, but I didn't because all I know is what Samsung told me - not what is necessarily true or possible. Add in the fact that Samsung Pay hasn't launched yet, we just can;t know for sure as it can't be tested.
This is the first phone I'm not rooting, because I prefer to be 100% sure that Samsung Pay remains intact, but I also wont be surprised if someone manages a code fix to Knox.
All that said, I agree with Bloodrain, we just can't 100% know yet.
DevonSloan said:
I think Bloodrain's point is that it is hard to tell what can be circumvented with system hacking.
I could have answered and told you that Samsung directly told me that rooting will trip Knox and both disable Samsung pay as well as the warranty, but I didn't because all I know is what Samsung told me - not what is necessarily true or possible. Add in the fact that Samsung Pay hasn't launched yet, we just can;t know for sure as it can't be tested.
This is the first phone I'm not rooting, because I prefer to be 100% sure that Samsung Pay remains intact, but I also wont be surprised if someone manages a code fix to Knox.
All that said, I agree with Bloodrain, we just can't 100% know yet.
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Well that was a more in-depth answer. Thanks for it.
Related
Do I need one of those "vanilla" developer phones if I'm to install a custom ROM on my Note 3? As far as I know, nope. You can root any Android phone.
I'm fairly sure that I can ClockWorkMod + install custom ROM on a phone I purchase in a shop. But I just want to make sure .
Thank you in advance .
You are joking, right ?
If not, yes.
Sent from my N9005
axonn said:
Do I need one of those "vanilla" developer phones if I'm to install a custom ROM on my Note 3? As far as I know, nope. You can root any Android phone.
I'm fairly sure that I can ClockWorkMod + install custom ROM on a phone I purchase in a shop. But I just want to make sure .
Thank you in advance .
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You need to READ a lot!!! Really, you will surely make something wrong...READ!
dragoncius said:
You need to READ a lot!!! Really, you will surely make something wrong...READ!
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Although my question seemed that of a noob, I can assure you I am not. My first rooted phone was HTC Tytn2 which I rooted using Duty's ROM's which I found here back in 2008. So no worries . Now I have a rooted SG2. I know all the procedures, safety steps and so on.
The reason I asked such a dumb question was that I had a 1% uncertainty regarding this, which I was unwilling to risk on.
As far as I know, the so-called dev-phones are simply loaded with a vanilla version of Android, no Samsung bloatware.
Anyway, thank you guys for calming my fears .
axonn said:
Although my question seemed that of a noob, I can assure you I am not. My first rooted phone was HTC Tytn2 which I rooted using Duty's ROM's which I found here back in 2008. So no worries . Now I have a rooted SG2. I know all the procedures, safety steps and so on.
The reason I asked such a dumb question was that I had a 1% uncertainty regarding this, which I was unwilling to risk on.
As far as I know, the so-called dev-phones are simply loaded with a vanilla version of Android, no Samsung bloatware.
Anyway, thank you guys for calming my fears .
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There´s only one Google Edition phone in Samsung, the S4. Still, you can get a "normal" S4 and still flash it like crazy.
dragoncius said:
There´s only one Google Edition phone in Samsung, the S4. Still, you can get a "normal" S4 and still flash it like crazy.
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Flash it like crazy. I like the sound of that! *grin*
Hey, I'm looking to pick up a new phone and the S6 Active looks fantastic. Will this phone eventually be rooted? Or, is it a possibility that the phone could go by the wayside and never receive a root option.
I really appreciate the information- I'm not too versed in all of this.
Thanks a lot.
heartofgold- said:
Hey, I'm looking to pick up a new phone and the S6 Active looks fantastic. Will this phone eventually be rooted? Or, is it a possibility that the phone could go by the wayside and never receive a root option.
I really appreciate the information- I'm not too versed in all of this.
Thanks a lot.
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Chances of it obtaining root ate slim, as pingpongroot was patched shortly before the active was released, and no exploit has been found since then. If it gets root it will require an entirely new exploit
Snowby123 said:
Chances of it obtaining root ate slim, as pingpongroot was patched shortly before the active was released, and no exploit has been found since then. If it gets root it will require an entirely new exploit
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Thank you!
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Thank you!
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Would it make sense that the S6 would be rooted when the version of android hits? So it would be a wait- but eventually- or is it really just unlikely to happen. Sorry if that's a repetitive question.
Thanks.
hello
i have a rooted S7. As you know naturally samsung pay not working. it wont work on a rooted device. If i unroot/flash my device and install stock rom, can i use samsung pay? or it wont work?
Thanks
sam20e said:
hello
i have a rooted S7. As you know naturally samsung pay not working. it wont work on a rooted device. If i unroot/flash my device and install stock rom, can i use samsung pay? or it wont work?
Thanks
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Sorry mate once the knox bit is set ( 0 x 1) there is no way to use Samsung pay.................but you can use Android pay if you unroot
thanks for the reply buddy.. damn i really wanted to use samsung pay :/
MAX 404 said:
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Sorry mate once the knox bit is set ( 0 x 1) there is no way to use Samsung pay.................but you can use Android pay if you unroot
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This is not true, I rooted and installed a ROM, was unhappy with it and went back to stock ROM with no root. I use Samsung Pay all the time.
theeulogy said:
This is not true, I rooted and installed a ROM, was unhappy with it and went back to stock ROM with no root. I use Samsung Pay all the time.
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6 months ago it was true.........and i think still is
On this thread they claim is possible to have Samsung pay on a knox tripped device...but
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/knox-samsung-pay-root-t3549935
No real proof on thread that is really working.....
full stock and knox tripped i do not think so
If device is less than a year old
Contact samsung a claim a warrenty repair, i called uk line & it was an automatic service i was sent a box to return it with ups & i got a refurb phone 10 days later, i might of been luck though
Hi, I was thinking about rooting my Galaxy S7 and I know that KNOX will be tripped and I will not be able to use Samsung Pay, S Health or get OTA updates ever again but I was wondering was that it and what are your thoughts on rooting the galaxy s7 and if you think it's worth it? I want to dual boot King rom and RR Remix but I'm not sure if it's worth it?
I think that's a very subjective question for which the answer should come from you. But IMHO, since you are seeking opinions, I haven't felt the need to root mine [yet]. So far this is the only Android I've had that I haven't rooted - and I've had Androids since the original Motorola Droid. I haven't used Samsung Pay yet but I think that once I do I will become accustomed to it. For now I am holding off on rooting. I find that my S7 gives me most of what I want and I'm not missing root at all.
Drunkula said:
I think that's a very subjective question for which the answer should come from you. But IMHO, since you are seeking opinions, I haven't felt the need to root mine [yet]. So far this is the only Android I've had that I haven't rooted - and I've had Androids since the original Motorola Droid. I haven't used Samsung Pay yet but I think that once I do I will become accustomed to it. For now I am holding off on rooting. I find that my S7 gives me most of what I want and I'm not missing root at all.
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So why did you root before the s7? I ask because I plan on buying the s7 to BL unlock and run custom rom..
No, i dont think its worth it! Stock rom does a great job and even the backups work perfectly with the samsung cloud and also you can use Package Disabler Pro without root so thats all you need.
RiTCHiE007 said:
No, i dont think its worth it! Stock rom does a great job and even the backups work perfectly with the samsung cloud and also you can use Package Disabler Pro without root so thats all you need.
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Thanks, I think unless they release a fully stable, feature packed AOSP rom I'm gonna stick with stock. I do like Android N for the Galaxy S7 and it's definitely a step in the right direction from Samsung :good:
Drunkula said:
I think that's a very subjective question for which the answer should come from you. But IMHO, since you are seeking opinions, I haven't felt the need to root mine [yet]. So far this is the only Android I've had that I haven't rooted - and I've had Androids since the original Motorola Droid. I haven't used Samsung Pay yet but I think that once I do I will become accustomed to it. For now I am holding off on rooting. I find that my S7 gives me most of what I want and I'm not missing root at all.
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Thanks for your opinion. I think your right, other than custom roms I don't really see a reason to root. I think unless they release a fully stable rom (like AOSP) that I really want I'm gonna stick to stock for now. I wish there was a way to get the dual speaker mod without root though, that would be good.
munchy_cool said:
So why did you root before the s7? I ask because I plan on buying the s7 to BL unlock and run custom rom..
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In a nutshell, I wanted to try other ROMs and debloat.
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In a nutshell, I wanted to try other ROMs and debloat.
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Gotcha
I honestly haven't rooted since my OnePlus days, and even then once I started using Google Wallet/Android Pay I reverted to stock. On my S4 I had to root to gain some of the functionality/customizations I wanted. With the OnePlus and my S7 Edge, the need just isn't there. Sure, I'd like to remove some of the AT&T bloat, but at least I can disable those apps which is good enough for me.
Hey guys
So I have been reading on knox and how it trips warranty.. I am ok with that..
But there is probably only couple of ROM available for EXYNOS ? It is worth rooting? some other forums was reading about instability of bootloaders plaguing the custom rom phones with issues?
khandu said:
Hey guys
So I have been reading on knox and how it trips warranty.. I am ok with that..
But there is probably only couple of ROM available for EXYNOS ? It is worth rooting? some other forums was reading about instability of bootloaders plaguing the custom rom phones with issues?
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I have the same question at all
There are loads of ROMs available for Exynos S7
Anything that relies on KNOX will not run after tripping (If you are on Nougat) such as S.Health, Android/Samsung Pay etc etc
Possible workarounds on the forum to get them working again, plenty of info around, read some threads
*Detection* said:
There are loads of ROMs available for Exynos S7
Anything that relies on KNOX will not run after tripping (If you are on Nougat) such as S.Health, Android/Samsung Pay etc etc
Possible workarounds on the forum to get them working again, plenty of info around, read some threads
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Thanks.. is there a thread or list of what exactly doesn't work after rooting and will never work? My concern is that if I root it and want to sell it in future (even after restore) buyer won't be able to use Samsung Pay / Health etc..
khandu said:
Thanks.. is there a thread or list of what exactly doesn't work after rooting and will never work? My concern is that if I root it and want to sell it in future (even after restore) buyer won't be able to use Samsung Pay / Health etc..
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SHealth needs a build.prop tweak to work. Samsung Pass, Knox containers and Samsung Pay will need a custom ROM to work again. You shouldn't sell the device without telling the buyer it is Knox tripped and what that involves. Android Pay will still work as tripping Knox doesn't trigger SafetyNet
I rooted my S7 the day I purchased it, haven't gotten any issues ever since. ROOT is a worthy trade-off for voiding KNOX in my opinion.