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So how's the sound chip compared to the Iphone 5s and other top smartphones ? I heard that since the chipset is SNP800 , the sound chip should be good too, but i'm no pro and have yet to try the headphone out.
Can anyone provide an explanation ?
2nd question (to avoid making 2 threads) :
I know kitkat 4.4 is only 32 bit now , but if for some reason Google releases android 5.0 in the future and it's 64 bit ...will the nexus chipset support it ?
1. Sound is good
2. Doesn't matter
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1. Sound is good
2. Doesn't matter
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64 bit computing hardly matters in the mobile space currently. Currently it is only relevant in marketing.
To answer the question. You are still using 32-bit hardware even if 64-bit capable software came out. Odds are Google will not release a 64-bit exclusive operating system in the near future.
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So how's the sound chip compared to the Iphone 5s and other top smartphones ? I heard that since the chipset is SNP800 , the sound chip should be good too, but i'm no pro and have yet to try the headphone out.
Can anyone provide an explanation ?
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According to the test done by GSMarena, the Nexus 5 sound quality is no where near iOS devices. It has similar sound performance compared to the LG G2 but lower volume output. http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011p7.php As the graph is shown, there is quite a lot of "wobbling" which isn't good compared to the iOS devices (link is the 5s sound quality: http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_5s-review-994p7.php). This is assuming you actually rip songs from CDs, download 320+ kbps (if you don't know what this is you don't download it), download from Google Play or iTunes, rather than using an app or random website to get free music. Otherwise it wouldn't matter what device you get to listen to music since the sound file wouldn't have enough detail to actually use the iPhone soundboard properly. From experience even the Voodoo sound board on the Galaxy S3+ (not sure about the S4) doesn't reach the levels of iOS devices especially on loudness and clarity. Otherwise for the casual listener, the sound quality on the Nexus 5 should be more than enough unless you're really serious about sound quality.
Edit: according to the benchmarks done on the same website, the Samsung S4 holds it ground fairly well but there is some wobble at later parts of the graph and that's just nitpicking. Won't be hearing the effects of that unless you have songs that are 500 kbps+ and are playing on a good speaker.
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According to the test done by GSMarena, the Nexus 5 sound quality is no where near iOS devices. It has similar sound performance compared to the LG G2 but lower volume output. http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011p7.php As the graph is shown, there is quite a lot of "wobbling" which isn't good compared to the iOS devices (link is the 5s sound quality: http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_5s-review-994p7.php). This is assuming you actually rip songs from CDs, download 320+ kbps (if you don't know what this is you don't download it), download from Google Play or iTunes, rather than using an app or random website to get free music. Otherwise it wouldn't matter what device you get to listen to music since the sound file wouldn't have enough detail to actually use the iPhone soundboard properly. From experience even the Voodoo sound board on the Galaxy S3+ (not sure about the S4) doesn't reach the levels of iOS devices especially on loudness and clarity. Otherwise for the casual listener, the sound quality on the Nexus 5 should be more than enough unless you're really serious about sound quality.
Edit: according to the benchmarks done on the same website, the Samsung S4 holds it ground fairly well but there is some wobble at later parts of the graph and that's just nitpicking. Won't be hearing the effects of that unless you have songs that are 500 kbps+ and are playing on a good speaker.
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This is what I really dont get. I had an iphone 5s for a couple weeks and everything besides the earphones that came in the box sounded horrible. Zero bass, zero highs, just the mids. Also had the HTC one, which is supposed to have a great audio chip, and it did. That phone soudned the best out of all the phone's I've had. (I turned beats off, that is just pure junk). Compared to the HTC one, this phone is actually very good. I still get deep bass, and good highs with no distortion even at high volumes. With the iphone, anything higher than 50%, things got a bit crackly and distorted especially hooked up to my speakers.
OP: The sound chip, in my opinion (I listen to a LOT of music and am pretty much a huge audiophile.), is very good. As some users said, the pure loudness of it isn't that great, but the quality is very good. Not as good as the HTC one, but very close.
EDIT: Quote from GSM arena pretty much saying what I said.
The scores stay close to perfect even when you plug in a pair of headphones. The stereo crosstalk worsens a bit but the rest of the readings are virtually unaffected (frequency response actually improves a bit). Unfortunately, the volume levels remained just as uninspiring.
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This is what I really dont get. I had an iphone 5s for a couple weeks and everything besides the earphones that came in the box sounded horrible. Zero bass, zero highs, just the mids. Also had the HTC one, which is supposed to have a great audio chip, and it did. That phone soudned the best out of all the phone's I've had. (I turned beats off, that is just pure junk). Compared to the HTC one, this phone is actually very good. I still get deep bass, and good highs with no distortion even at high volumes. With the iphone, anything higher than 50%, things got a bit crackly and distorted especially hooked up to my speakers.
OP: The sound chip, in my opinion (I listen to a LOT of music and am pretty much a huge audiophile.), is very good. As some users said, the pure loudness of it isn't that great, but the quality is very good. Not as good as the HTC one, but very close.
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The review on the website show that the HTC One has a excellent audio output but at best decent audio quality. The bass is overemphasized but nothing compared to the One X which was a disaster in terms of audio quality. Realized that the iPhone sound quality may sound worse to many people since it has a "flat" and stabilized audio quality which is what actually is looked for. Many companies tweak the audio to make it more "pleasing" to the masses and overshadow the bad soundboard which include bigger bass (blame Dr. Dre).
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The review on the website show that the HTC One has a excellent audio output but at best decent audio quality. The bass is overemphasized but compared to the One X which was a disaster in terms of audio quality. Realized that the iPhone sound quality may sound worse to many people since it has a "flat" and stabilized audio quality which is what actually is looked for. Many companies tweak the audio to make it more "pleasing" to the masses and overshadow the bad soundboard.
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I know flat sound is technically prefered in benchmarks and things, but I haven't met a single person that actually likes listening to it. Anyway, that was just my opinion. IMO, no matter how technically good the quality is on the iphone, I still think that it sounds horrible. And the software is hideous/crashed way too often.
EDIT: I see you have an iphone. Do you have a N5 as well, or are you just posting here? I'm not trying to be an idiot, just wondering if you have compared the quality between the two
N5 sound sucks.. I'm biased because I upgraded from a HTC one lol. Everything else is solid with my n5
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The built-in speaker is mediocre to crappy. The audio through other connections is quite good, IMO.
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The built-in speaker is mediocre to crappy. The audio through other connections is quite good, IMO.
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its a bug. http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus...one-and-software-may-be-hurting-what-you-hear
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I know flat sound is technically prefered in benchmarks and things, but I haven't met a single person that actually likes listening to it. Anyway, that was just my opinion. IMO, no matter how technically good the quality is on the iphone, I still think that it sounds horrible. And the software is hideous/crashed way too often.
EDIT: I see you have an iphone. Do you have a N5 as well, or are you just posting here? I'm not trying to be an idiot, just wondering if you have compared the quality between the two
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I'm just basing this off the gsmarena benchmark and from previous experience. Not in my sig but I have a HTC Desire HD and Acer A100 running custom ROMs since both devices are not supported. I hopefully plan to get a Moto G since I kinda would like to get an android device that is current and not gimped by some developers *nvidia*. I tend to randomly post in random device forums usually trying to get up to date with new devices. I have listened to Galaxy S 3 and One X since my friends have them so I have an idea how they sound. Nexus 5 just came out so gsmarena was the only site that had soundboard benchmarks, but like I said it works more than enough for most people and the tweaks made are probably for the better. If you wondering I do prefer the "flat" sound since my speakers don't play well with equalizers especially the Beats one in my HTC. I also tend to listen to more instrumentals than the average listener so the "flatness" help bring out the other instruments in the background that usually would be hidden by the bass or treble.
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its a bug. http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus...one-and-software-may-be-hurting-what-you-hear
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I really fail to see how that was overlooked. Hopefully they push it out sooner than later.
iPhone5 & 5s have a relatively high output impedance. They'll be a little more temperamental when used with third party buds.
I don't know if we have an impedance reading for the Nexus 5.
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If listening to music, just use Noozxoide E.
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There is definitely a bug wrt audio on the N5, but the speaker is also very crappy and so easy to completely obstruct (v similar positioning on iPhones and some Lumias)
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There is definitely a bug wrt audio on the N5, but the speaker is also very crappy and so easy to completely obstruct (v similar positioning on iPhones and some Lumias)
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It's going to obstruct wherever they put it. Top, bottom or back especially if you put it in your pocket. The Optimus G had such a high speaker volume even though the speaker was just a small slit in the back and the back was flat.
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You obviously never used one of the devices I mentioned above then.
It's the only thing that stops the N5 being the perfect device (all right maybe a bit better battery life)
Phone call:
On Handset is good...no issues.
On Speaker is ok...on full volume sound distortion is evident.
On Headphones is good but other person can't listen clearly unless I hold headphone mic in front of my lips...or speak loud.
Music:
On Speaker is terrible.
On headphones (Klipsch S4A)...quality is really good for 320kbps mp3 files...I feel best audio quality is between 50% - 70% of volume level.
I have an order placed for the Moto G, but now have the opportunity to get a brand new Galaxy S3 for $200 off-contract. Specs wise the phones are very similar; with the S3 having a bigger (AMOLED) screen, SD support, and a plethora of accessories & ROMs. This along with a removable battery & better camera have me leaning towards the S3.
Do any Moto G owners currently have an S3? If so could I get an opinion on whether its worth cancelling my order & purchasing the older phone.
Get both and then sell the one you don't want. Specs wise the S3 wins but the moto G seems to ignore that factor.
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i would say s3 has better camera but that is about it.
moto g is snappy and has great batterylife and screen. also moto g will get 4.4 in january so my guess is that it will also get the next version of android.
I had an s3 for about one year and sold it as soon I got the Moto g.
The s3 is a nice phone but the battery use to drain fast sometimes and have a lot of software issues. Also, even with cyanogenmod it freezes sometimes. The screen is bigger but not that much and in comparison with the moto g it looses in brightness.
GPS and Google now consumes a LOT of battery on the s3 while in moto g they barelly appear in the battery graphics consumption. Also, the moto g have a better design and feels great in hand, while the s3 is kinda ungly and you will need to use it with both hand in lots of situations.
I'm in love with my moto g and selling my s3 to buy it was one of the best choices I made. It runs android flawless!!!
I did camera comparison in low light without flash, left MotoG, middle RAZRi, right Galaxy S3:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-2.html#post6758301
These are png's so they are 1:1 quality, no forum crop or reduced quality.
I have both phones, both on stock ROM. The S3 is getting more and more laggy.
Pro S3: Slimmer, less weight, slightly bigger screen, better camera
Pro MG: Blazing fast, feels more sturdy, Kitkat in '14, no balderdash, great battery life
If it wasn't for NFC & removable SD support I'd ditch my S3 right away.
Get the Moto G. Pure Android is great... Just got mine yesterday and i'm loving it.. Feel much better in my hands than my nexus4.
This is the phone i was waiting since Android came out
I've had an S3 and currently have a Moto G. I'd definitely say the Moto G, it's faster/smoother, better screen, better battery life etc. IMO of course
Get the Galaxy s3. More capable and better resale value.
Assuming the Galaxy s3 is legit and won't get blacklisted.
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Get the Moto G. Pure Android is great... Just got mine yesterday and i'm loving it.. Feel much better in my hands than my nexus4.
This is the phone i was waiting since Android came out
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That and the glass back are the two things i hated about the n4. It felt like it just did not belong in my hand.
Talk about coincidence OP..in the same situation
I'll make the story short and brief..I purchased a S3 for 240 CDN and havent picked it up yet
However I can still get the Moto G for 65 CDN should I want to..its apart of a carrier deal + gift card redemption
The only true differences (to me anyway) is camera and memory
1) Never cared for a phone on a camera
2) There are smaller external options to increase memory
Another problem is build...and by touching the dummy products, the Moto G feels alot stronger...Samsung cellphones r amazing but I cant stand the overall build..I've seen too many broken S3 screens
Any comments would be most appreciated..I'm upgrading from an iPhone 3G btw...
Just to let you guys know, I just woke up and pushed my Moto G to the floor (hard floor) today. It's the third time I let this phone fall and it does not broke. Not a single scratch
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Just to let you guys know, I just woke up and pushed my Moto G to the floor (hard floor) today. It's the third time I let this phone fall and it does not broke. Not a single scratch
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I'll freak out when my moto g falls for the first time... For sure xD
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I know quadrant isn't exactly perfect, but I was pretty surprised. Mysisters stock moto g vs my custom ROM Canadian s3.
Also included one of her battery life.
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I did camera comparison in low light without flash, left MotoG, middle RAZRi, right Galaxy S3:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-2.html#post6758301
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Hi, unfortunately I can't see the difference from these pictures.
I have the choice between buying a used S3 or a new Moto G for the same price, and the camera quality is important for me. I would like to get at least the quality that I had with my (broken) Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
Is the difference really that noticeable ? thx
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Hi, unfortunately I can't see the difference from these pictures.
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If you can't see any difference, it is equal which phone/camera you choose...
Go for Motorola, seriously.
OK thanks for the advice.
There is one thing that I see : when there is no stabilizer, the image is more blurry, indeed !
Hey Guys can anyone tell me should I go for the Moto g or galaxy s3 or Galaxy S4 Mini? I can buy a brand new moto G and with that price I can get a used s3 and s4 mini here in India. Anyone can help me? I am totally confused.
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I would absolutelly go for the MotoG.
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Hi guys
I have a Nexus 4, REALLY like this phone but battery life is horrible. I've tried to underclock, undervolt, flash diferents roms and kernels but nothing works.
Moto G and Nexus 4 have similar prices in Brazil, but i dont care about the superior processor and GPU on N4, for me the main things are screen quality and battery.
So i need to know, is there a noticeable diference between N4 and G battery life? And most important, screen on time?
And how about the display quality, brightness, contrast ? Is the panel on the G superior to N4's one?
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I have a Nexus 4, REALLY like this phone but battery life is horrible. I've tried to underclock, undervolt, flash diferents roms and kernels but nothing works.
Moto G and Nexus 4 have similar prices in Brazil, but i dont care about the superior processor and GPU on N4, for me the main things are screen quality and battery.
So i need to know, is there a noticeable diference between N4 and G battery life? And most important, screen on time?
And how about the display quality, brightness, contrast ? Is the panel on the G superior to N4's one?
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I've actually just made the switch from Nexus 4 to Moto G. The screen to me seems better than the Nexus 4. Deeper colours, and no backlight bleed. Speed wise for most apps is near identical. You'd only actually notice the difference side by side most of the time.
As with you, I made the move for battery life, and so far, it's looking better so far. I'm still using my Nexus 4 as my work phone, and it sometimes drains faster than my Moto G, even though I'm not using it.
What's your average SOT ? 3,5 hours is a very good result for me on my N4
I had the Nexus 4 and now have the Moto G and IMO the screen on the Moto G is better, the Moto G processor is better and it doesn't slide off everything you put it on ☺
The only thing I feel the Nexus 4 had better was the camera, and that wasn't very stellar anyway. Oh and the GPU was better, but you won't notice a difference.
Yes the S4 Pro in the Nexus 4 was top end when it came out but the Snapdragon 400 in the moto g is the newer SOC so performs better anyway, I get better benchmarks from the Moto G than I got from my nexus 4 (GPU scores aside)
The moto g also feels way smoother in the UI than my nexus 4 ever did, something just wasn't quite right with the Nexus 4. The moto g is the superior handset.
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What's your average SOT ? 3,5 hours is a very good result for me on my N4
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I have a 6+ hrs SOT with Moto G. And 50 hrs of battery.
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I had the Nexus 4 and now have the Moto G and IMO the screen on the Moto G is better, the Moto G processor is better and it doesn't slide off everything you put it on ☺
The only thing I feel the Nexus 4 had better was the camera, and that wasn't very stellar anyway. Oh and the GPU was better, but you won't notice a difference.
Yes the S4 Pro in the Nexus 4 was top end when it came out but the Snapdragon 400 in the moto g is the newer SOC so performs better anyway, I get better benchmarks from the Moto G than I got from my nexus 4 (GPU scores aside)
The moto g also feels way smoother in the UI than my nexus 4 ever did, something just wasn't quite right with the Nexus 4. The moto g is the superior handset.
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Completely agree with this.
I have had a Nexus 4 for almost a year and recently received a Moto G. Before hand, I thought the Moto G would be inferior to the Nexus in every conceivable way, but I am pleasantly surprised.
The battery life is better and screen time is approximately an hour or so longer (though this varies, of course). The quality of the display is remarkable for a device that costs so little and the performance of it is good enough for even the most demanding of apps.
What's surprised me the most, however, is the camera, which produces more than acceptable pictures but is fractionally slower than the Nexus when it comes to capturing them.
Otherwise, brilliant phone and if I had neither, I would get the Moto G over the Nexus 4 in a heartbeat.
As far as I know, the only real advantage with the Nexus 4 is the Adreno 320 GPU, but if you're not the type to play bleeding-edge 3D games, then the Moto G makes perfect sense as an alternative.
I see in this forum that many people moved from a N4
I've moved from the nexus 4 to the moto g and I love it, battery is so much better.
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I have a friend who would give a stomach pain to read this thread. I think by cost benefit the Moto G is better.
I have the Nexus and my girlfriend the Moto.
I prefer the screen of the Moto, the battery life is great and the performance matches that of the Nexus, at least in normal operation. I didn't try any heavy graphics games, but due to the different GPU I believe the Nexus has the edge there.
Anyway, when I got her the Moto I had a gigantic urge to buy one for myself, it's that good!
The Nexus 4 is better, the only pluses the Moto G has in comparison are better battery life, 'newer' and that's about it i guess
I consider this the "Nexus 4 Lite"; not quite as powerful, but priced in a way that doesn't make it look silly in comparison.
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The Nexus 4 is better, the only pluses the Moto G has in comparison are better battery life, 'newer' and that's about it i guess
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Hi guys
I have a Nexus 4, REALLY like this phone but battery life is horrible. I've tried to underclock, undervolt, flash diferents roms and kernels but nothing works.
Moto G and Nexus 4 have similar prices in Brazil, but i dont care about the superior processor and GPU on N4, for me the main things are screen quality and battery.
So i need to know, is there a noticeable diference between N4 and G battery life? And most important, screen on time?
And how about the display quality, brightness, contrast ? Is the panel on the G superior to N4's one?
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I have both. N4 as the primary and Moto G as the back up. I love both.
Screen wise, the display on Moto G is better. Battery life on Moto G is much better. Ergonomics on the G is also better.
N4 has better camera. Moto G camera is acceptable when there is sufficient light; however, it is atrocious under low light condition.
Both are very fast with N4 being slightly faster. It seems Moto G is more suitable to you.
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Totally forgot that random benchmarks mean something. Thanks for that.
Just got my moto g a week ago, and I think it is very close to my n4 in most ways, but it has much stronger battery life, better speaker and size. Camera though is worse.
Love both phones
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The N4 camera is better. I don't know that much else is. Performance is a wash. The Moto G has a better screen, better battery and better speaker.
I hope this is appropriate to ask here. I am receiving my new Z3 today (exchanged due to camera defect) and I am debating whether to sell it and buy a Motorola X (2014) instead. Part of this is because after owning the Z3 and seeing too many issues with the camera (defective camera, water-colored camera quality, pink spots on specific background) and bad QA (screen leak), this keeps me on the edge about continuing to own this premium phone. I absolutely love everything else about the phone, the build quality, screen, etc.
Then I looked at the Moto X (2014) and noticed it had similar specs, minus some other features. It is definitely a little cheaper. The big thing is I do not want to go above 5.2" screen at the moment--it is already too big for my pockets. I don't know much about the new Moto X and its problems, but the Z3 makes me feel uneasy about the purchase. One of the big thing for me is the phone camera and quality (MP is not too important). Before selling the Z3, I want to know what you think. Thanks in advance.
My first Z3 had screen leak but new one is perfect. Both are great devices. The Z3 has far greater batter life and AMOLED is prone to burn in for heavy users and eats through battery on web pages though.
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My first Z3 had screen leak but new one is perfect. Both are great devices. The Z3 has far greater batter life and AMOLED is prone to burn in for heavy users and eats through battery on web pages though.
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Greatly appreciate your input. :good:
Xperia Z3 got stereo speakers but Moto X don't.
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I was having the same debate but picked the Z3, even though some ave camera issues all I hear is the Moto X 2014 camera is a very sub par camera, as well as having a super small battery that some say barely gets them though the day. I think the Z3 is a much better device overall.
In this scenario. The Z3 is the Mercedes and the Moto X is the Honda lol. Meaning the X is not a bad device but the Z3 is just way more luxurious.
Had a quick look at the Moto-X while at my local Costco. Not digging the design and build quality at all. The Z3 really feels like a premium device next to the X.
While I'm sure the Moto is a great handset overall, one really needs to question the decision to include a low-capacity battery and exclude a SD card slot.
Sony truly is the miniaturization experts. I have a Sony A7 camera and it still boggles my mind how they've been able to cram a full-frame sensor into such a small camera body. Likewise, only Sony can figure out how to cram a 3100mah battery, SD card slot, 20mp camera, and stereo speakers into a phone with similar overall dimensions to other flagship phones that lack all of the aforementioned.
If you do buy the X, buy it directly from Moto, they offer one time screen replacement just like HTC.
Got the Z3 today. Shot this with the HTC One M7 (with the purple haze issue). Notice the USB flap has a larger gap on the left than on the right. Nothing I can do to adjust that. That's Sony's quality assurance for you. :/
Been using the moto x 2013 for some time now and its just about perfect. I dont game, my use is heavy on web, text. The problem with my X is that the microphone doesnt seem to work anymore, I have to carry a wired or bluetooth to talk on the phone...which is a pain.
I want something small, similar in size, to replace it. Ive narrowed it down to a S4 or LG G2. Which would you guys recommend? Anyone else make a move from the X 2013 to one of these models?
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Mario
If it is bought new, sure. But second hand you can get more recent models at the same prices.
Based solely on the specs, I would go for the G2. When I'm looking for a phone the first thing I look at is the performance, and, looking at the hardware, the G2 is better equipped than the S4. But this is just on paper.
For all I know, the real world performance may be the same.
I am satisfied with the S4
Thanks. Yeah either the G2 or S4 new is what I want, just curious to hear what folks think getting a 2.5 year old device. Id get a new flagship but all of them are just too big.
Get the snapdragon variant. The exynos overheats
S4 is still a very good phone: it can run without problems marshmallow custom roms and you can play on it big games like fifa 16 or asphalt. But if you want a good new phone and almost same dimensions like s4, I recommand OnePlus X.
I don't think S4 will be a good idea now. I had both versions (GT-I9500 and GT-I9505) before I moved for Xperia Z3 D6643. Unfortunately, I have damaged my Z3 and until it got fixed, I will be using the GT-i9505 again.
This phone is driving me crazy, even with max brightness, it's impossible (looks like a black screen) to use it under sunligh. 3G, and 4G (not to talk about GPS) data drains a huge % of battery, average screen on time is about 3-3,5h, no battery optmizations.
The Z3 (5.2") and Z3 compact (4.6") are the best options when talking about cost x benefit. Almost 10h screen on time and +800h standby time.
Thanks all. I kept looking and looking for new S4 or g2 but everything out on the Bay was new "other" or sellers with tons of negative feedback. Lots of positive but also much negative. I just saw no trusty sellers. Ended up pulling trigger on oneplus x. Now the wait for it begins. Hope oxygen is decent.
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i have S4 now frome aboute 1 year and realy i am happy with
run very very good i have add the QI modul and it run official rom until custome have no bug ( zero bug ) actualy custom rom have some BT problem and i use My S4 with my smart watch here why BT are important now if you see forum you have big chois of rom ( custom ) and all tested and run very very well on S4 personaly i change phone until S4 are dead hahaha but LG have an Good support in my watch runing official 6.0 firmware LG give quicly update whet are roling out but samsung are still on 5.0.1 bad guys samsung
@spawk
Samsung has it's own update cycle. Most flagships get support from Samsung up to 2 years after released.
And, in 2016, Galaxy S4 won't be supported anymore.
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The Only thing that is extremely bad about i9505 is its sound quality in earphones.On gsmarena u will see they will say it has best audio quality but in reality its far far away from the best its so flat and dumb.Even all the chinese phones sound better than it there is literally no bass at all in the sound and if u increase it by an equalizer the volume decreases alot.
You could also try i9506 S4 LTE+/LTE A
Ive been using this device for a long time now. Recently broke my galaxy note 3's lcd and sold my lg g2. Back on my i9506 and still good. Its not far with g2 in terms performance. Although I use 2 batteries on my i9506 but hey, great device
Usama707 said:
The Only thing that is extremely bad about i9505 is its sound quality in earphones.On gsmarena u will see they will say it has best audio quality but in reality its far far away from the best its so flat and dumb.Even all the chinese phones sound better than it there is literally no bass at all in the sound and if u increase it by an equalizer the volume decreases alot.
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Sound quality depends a lot on the headphones. I hardly think that in-ear ear buds are great at producing bass.
Let's not forget about the song quality too. Anything with a bitrate lower than 320KBPS will have its quality reduced. So always go for 320 or FLAC.
It can have the best sound chip in the world if the headphones are garbage and the music file has static noise.
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Sound quality depends a lot on the headphones. I hardly think that in-ear ear buds are great at producing bass.
Let's not forget about the song quality too. Anything with a bitrate lower than 320KBPS will have its quality reduced. So always go for 320 or FLAC.
It can have the best sound chip in the world if the headphones are garbage and the music file has static noise.
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Sound is really really flat although its very clear and frequency response is good too but its off no use as the sound is so flat use the same earphone on some other phone or the computer then u will understand how flat I9505 sounds
Usama707 said:
Sound is really really flat although its very clear and frequency response is good too but its off no use as the sound is so flat use the same earphone on some other phone or the computer then u will understand how flat I9505 sounds
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There are always better devices. My 2 other devices (An ZTE Blade and LG P350) sound crappy compared to my S4.
That's why there are mods like viper4android. With the right setup you can get nice bass.
Besides, stuff like this is just a preference. I, for instance, don't like heavy basses. I like to listen to the music, not the "boom boom" sound of the bass.
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There are always better devices. My 2 other devices (An ZTE Blade and LG P350) sound crappy compared to my S4.
That's why there are mods like viper4android. With the right setup you can get nice bass.
Besides, stuff like this is just a preference. I, for instance, don't like heavy basses. I like to listen to the music, not the "boom boom" sound of the bass.
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I Dont like much bass either but the sound of i9505 compared to Sony Xperia Z2,Galaxy Grand Prime,Galaxy J5,Galaxy Ace 3 and the desktop computer is really flat and lacking.I can hear more elements in even samsungs lowest end phones than i9505 using the same earphones
Stay away from S4.
- Lollipop roms are okay but not very fast.
- Exynos AND snapdragon can overheat actually depends on the kernel.
- microphone distortion (personally) which I can hear as I play back the call recording
- not as fast or smooth as I expected for quad core when I previously had S5 mini
- Sometimes run out of ram but not too often
Generally just don't expect much. The specs look really good on paper but it's actually not that good a phone.
The screen resolution is very high which is nice.
Camera quality / focus is average as well. Slow to focus. Quality average.
I suggest buy 2nd hand used S5 or S6.
Unfortunately no S6 mini.
@fatjoez
1. Really? 5.1.1 is okay for me.
2. I've a device with Intel processor and it does the same thing. In short: All CPUs could overheat.
3. -skipped-
4. Blame Samsung's policies.
5. I'm only felt it on TW ROMs.
And no, I won't buy Exynos devices. Devices with Snapdragon SOCs are the best choice.
But, it's up to you. I couldn't interfere your mind.
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Well I bought a oneplus x. Been using it for one day and I'm not sure about it. Works OK. Speed us good but it's just too big. I just wish I could find a phone the same size as the 2013 moto x. Now I'm thinking either a S4 or Z5 compact. :/
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