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If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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Yes!
SWTR said:
Yes!
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Indeed.
KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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The OTA will download but not install. You need stock recovery AND any system file that is updated by the OTA needs to be stock as well otherwise OTA install will fail.
Plenty of threads on XDA speak of this.
If you look at the OTA updater file you will see if uses MD5 (or similar) to check each system file it updates to make sure its as it was originally.
When you root it alters some system files.
Best thing is to install custom recovery and take a backup before rooted. Then root. When you get an OTA just restore backup and flash stock recovery. Then OTA will re-download. Let it install, then flash custom recovery and re-root.
Thanks, well I'll just stay unrooted and make the best out of it, the Moto G is just as amazing as Motorola developed it to be.
No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.
denzel09 said:
No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.
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Do you mean you downloaded OTA and flashed manually via recovery. You can do that I agree, but what you can't do is let OTA install naturally the way Motorola intended.
No. I had Philz recovery. System stock partition. Downloaded ota normally, reboot like ota update ask, phone reboots in philz recovery and this last flash ota automatically without any problem. There is not need to reflash stock recovery or flash ota update manually with custom rec, only need a non root stock system partition. I dont know if stock cwm or other rec like twrp work in same way but i doubt, always used only philz recovery.
You do not need stock recovery, I don't know who made this stupid rumour up. I use twrp and it flashes fine.
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I'm on the XT1540 and I got my OTA notification and went back to stock recovery (still rooted and unlocked bootloader) but it fails halfway through flashing everytime. I reflashed TWRP and captured the OTA into a zip but get an error about updating binary or something when flashing it. Is there something I need to delete from the OTA zip to allow it to flash in twrp?
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You cannot update your systems software using the OTA update if you are rooted and have modified the system in any way as there are checks of original system during the auto update over the OTA. This means having the original recovery too. Wont work on TWRP or CWM. So no root and no custom recovery for OTA. Unlocked bootloader is okay.
In case you want to try the OTA update then what I have noticed on my XT1550 dual sim APAC version is that even unrooting it using the SuperSu unroot option is not going to help. In my case I could download the OTA and waited till it replaced the system software but got stuck midway of the boot animation.
I had to flash the 23.72-33 version of the stock ROM and opt for the OTA update. This time though I was successful.
Hope this info helps.
Yes, what arunhebbare says. you need to back up al your data and restore your stock firmware and than update via ota.
that is the best way of doing it
HelpMeruth said:
Yes, what arunhebbare says. you need to back up al your data and restore your stock firmware and than update via ota.
that is the best way of doing it
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This...do a full factory image restore, then adb sideload the ota file. It's signed. TWRP can't install it.
Just use fastboot to flash the factory image for the version you want ... screw wiping your user partition like the above recommends.
nikon120 said:
Just use fastboot to flash the factory image for the version you want ... screw wiping your user partition like the above recommends.
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This...I can't understand, for the life of me, why everyone is wiping userdata with fastboot....that wipes your android data, and internal storage in one shot. Cache erasing is another totally unnecessary step. All that's necessary, at the most, is a factory reset with TWRP to wipe the android data and both caches....but even that shouldn't technically be necessary for an update like this. It's not like this is the marshmallow update!!
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You cannot update your systems software using the OTA update if you are rooted and have modified the system in any way as there are checks of original system during the auto update over the OTA. This means having the original recovery too. Wont work on TWRP or CWM. So no root and no custom recovery for OTA. Unlocked bootloader is okay.
In case you want to try the OTA update then what I have noticed on my XT1550 dual sim APAC version is that even unrooting it using the SuperSu unroot option is not going to help. In my case I could download the OTA and waited till it replaced the system software but got stuck midway of the boot animation.
I had to flash the 23.72-33 version of the stock ROM and opt for the OTA update. This time though I was successful.
Hope this info helps.
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@arunhebbare I've got the APAC version of the G3 as well, which ROMs are you flashing? I could only find images of the India version, did you use those?
I was wondering, I have rooted my phone using Chainfire's CF-Autoroot.
Normally this will disable OTA updates, I'm aware of that.
But is there some way to manually flash the monthly security updates that Samsung releases each month ?
(or at least they say they are going to release them each month).
Is there a source somewhere where we can download them and flash then using Odin or TWRP ?
No you didnt root. There isnt full root for s7 yet
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No you didnt root. There isnt full root for s7 yet
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Are you sure ? Because when I check manually for updates, I get the message stating that my phone has changed (root) and so updates cannot be downloaded and installed. It says that I need to try to download it via a PC tool from Samsung.
vipercoyote said:
No you didnt root. There isnt full root for s7 yet
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There is for the International version.
vipercoyote said:
No you didnt root. There isnt full root for s7 yet
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There very well is for the Exynos version/type and the reason I'm tempted to get it after prices have dropped a bit :
Check it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development/recovery-official-twrp-herolte-t3333770
Ok guys, now that we have established that root is available and working for the European version (which I have)...
Anyone know if the monthly patches from Samsung/Google will be available for download somewhere, so we can flash it manually and still be up-to-date ?
I would like to know this as well. I would guess they could be flashed with Odin?
I would like to know this. I am on the W8 variant rooted with autoroot and wondering how will I go about updating to new patches.
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you should flash your firmware via Odin to unroot, apply OTA, root again with auto root.
exploreresp said:
you should flash your firmware via Odin to unroot, apply OTA, root again with auto root.
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Yes, I am aware of this possibility.
I was just hoping in applying the monthly patch without full flash (which completely wipes the phone).
Indeed, flashing will reset the phone...I found that the hard way last night.
There is a topic on S7edge forum about Chainfire's FlashFire app. It claims that can flash without resetting the phone.
Did not try it but I will follow the discussions there. Would be perfect to flash a new f/w and not have the phone reset. ( like good old times
Maybe it is possible to prevent the userdata and internal storage to be wiped by flashing the official firmware ?
Anyone has succeeded to do so ?
I managed to download the complete new firmware G935FXXU1APD3 from Sammobile and flashed it with ODIN with the phone in download mode.
It did not overwrite any of my personal data or apps and the phone worked as before however you will need to root again afterwards, but that doesn't take long anyway.
The only other thing I had to do was copy the mixer_paths and mixer_gain files to the SD card then replace them as the new firmware overrides the volume hack if you have it in place.
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I guess that's what Chainfire trying to achieve with Flashfire. To be able to directly flash the Updates without having to manually backup/restore anything. Let's see how this goes. As of today you could flash the full oding images within flashfire.
Will definitely try when the next update for my phone variant comes.
I did take a TWRP backup just in case but was pleasantly surprised when the phone booted back to where it was.
I can confirm that the Flashfire method can be used for updates. Grab the update package, flash it through flashfire, and even select the "ever root" option to maintain root. Works great!
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I can confirm that the Flashfire method can be used for updates. Grab the update package, flash it through flashfire, and even select the "ever root" option to maintain root. Works great!
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How did you get the update package? When trying to search for an update on the phone it says I modified it.
Or did you load an full stock rom?
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How did you get the update package? When trying to search for an update on the phone it says I modified it.
Or did you load an full stock rom?
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Grabbed a full stock rom, extracted the modem and system packages, and flashed them specifically through flashfire. A link to the full stock rom was posted on the Canadian S7 thread in the discussion forum.
I've only had two phones prior to this but I have always unlocked the boot loader / rooted the device / installed a custom recovery / installed custom ROMS.
I believe with my MOTO X 1st gen this disabled the OTA updates.
Is that the case with the Honor 8? I'm wondering if it is worth it to install TWRP at this point as there seems to be so little in the way of kernels and ROMS.
Would I still be able to use SU or Xposed modules without Root?
What is the best move with this phone?
I have unlocked my bootloader as well as rooted my Honor 8. The only way to get SU and Xposed is by doing both of these procedures(root involves getting TWRP).
As for any Xposed modules, I tried amplify+greenify but instead of getting better battery life, my standby time decreased significantly. I am not sure why, but for some reason my Cell standby was showing to be eating a ton of my battery. Another big problem was that the dialer app would not let me call anyone, it kept crashing whenever I tried to. Both problems were fixed after I managed to get amplify+greenify uninstalled. Currently I am just running YouTube AdAway and MinMinGuard which seem to work fine.
So at this point, is it worth unlocking bootleader, installing TWRP, and rooting your phone? Well if there are certain Xposed modules that you really want then sure, and if there are certain apps you like that require root, then yes go ahead and root your phone. Note that if you try any OTA updates, you will have to remove TWRP as having your phone automatically restart and try to install the update wont work.
Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
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Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
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It doesnt matter whether or not your phone is rooted. You will get updates the same way, through OTA. Of course you can find .zip files to flash(although personally I am struggling to get the latest update flashed through TWRP).
The real question is for how long will we be receiving updates? Nougat is pretty much guaranteed with the new EMUI update. Huawei/Honor has promised up to 2 years of updates from what I have heard, but who knows what that actually means. They have also have a "partnership" with XDA, and the phone is decently popular so I am sure there will be a few roms, just not as many as say a OP3.
Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
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Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
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Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
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Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
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I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
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I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
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Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
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Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
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The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
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The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
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its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
Nas42O said:
its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
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No I am in the US. I am not sure about the EU version, but yes if you can find a .zip update file just put it on your phone and go into TWRP to install it. Might wanna make a backup too and wipe cache too just in case.
So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
Palindrom87 said:
So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
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Updating or wiping your phone does not lock the Bootloader. The only way to lock the Bootloader again is by doing it manually yourself.
Yes after doing a full update you will need to reinstall TWRP as it will be replaced with the stock recovery and then re-root your phone again.
Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
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Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
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Seeing as how the full update package was ~1.65GB in size, I think its ok to assume that it replaces everything with the stock Honor 8 image. So yes it will replace the kernel too.
For downloading full updates, the only way I got mine was an OTA directly from the phone itself. Look at my previous comments to see how I got this update. If for some reason you cant update, check if your model is ready for an update. If it is and you cant update, try to flash back to a stock image. You should be able to find one on this site or anywhere else.
Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
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Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
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No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
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No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
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I thought the same thing, but after taking the full OTA update my bootloader was locked again. If you want to update I would suggest first making a full backup to the external SD card in TWRP.
Then , its better to download à full update ( update.zip) ,copy to root of the phone , reboot in twrp and flash it ? Anyone already did it ?
Hey all
So a while back I wanted to use a certain app on my Motorola One Hyper that required root privileges, so I rooted my phone using Magisk for it. I didn't need the app later so I unrooted my phone, but now when I try to update my phone to a newer version, I get an error message saying "Package verification failed. The update package being downloaded is not compatible with the current software version on the device".
I'm not sure if me rooting the device has anything to do with it or not, but I'm guessing it is since I never had this issue before the root. Any way to fix this? Thanks in advance!
BlobTea said:
Hey all
So a while back I wanted to use a certain app on my Motorola One Hyper that required root privileges, so I rooted my phone using Magisk for it. I didn't need the app later so I unrooted my phone, but now when I try to update my phone to a newer version, I get an error message saying "Package verification failed. The update package being downloaded is not compatible with the current software version on the device".
I'm not sure if me rooting the device has anything to do with it or not, but I'm guessing it is since I never had this issue before the root. Any way to fix this? Thanks in advance!
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Yes, it probably is the root.
If you are trying to update the stock rom, it probably will not work. You may have to manually flash the stock rom again. Then, you may be able to upgrade to android 11. Otherwise you can just manually install android 11.
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Yes, it probably is the root.
If you are trying to update the stock rom, it probably will not work. You may have to manually flash the stock rom again. Then, you may be able to upgrade to android 11. Otherwise you can just manually install android 11.
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Ahh gotcha. Looks like I'm gonna have to flash the stock rom then. Thanks a lot for your help!
Does having a SafetyNet fix have something to do with it? Maybe unrelated, maybe not but when I check off the software update on the Magisk DenyList, exit and then come back, it becomes unchecked and I don't know why. Perhaps if the OTA updates werent detecting root, I could update to a security patch.
BlobTea said:
Ahh gotcha. Looks like I'm gonna have to flash the stock rom then. Thanks a lot for your help!
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Stock updates usually can't be applied to rooted devices or devices with custom recovery, root has to be completely removed and stock recovery has to be reinstalled. If those aren't corrected before applying the update, it will fail because it checks the system partition for modifications and requires stock recovery to apply the update, whether it actually boots into recovery or not during the update process.