I am being targeted / hacked by neighbor - Security Discussion

Hey guys need some assistance. Every phone or tablet and laptop new old hers hacked by my tenants boyfriend. He hacked everything from my ipad mini 2 with all updates ios 8'3 to my android phones moto g sony Xperia even a cheap nokia lumia 635. I put them on airplane mode and he's able to worm his way in. I turn off bluetooth update everything but nothing is working. I only rooted one phone. He generally installs a backdoor them changes my luck pin or pw or pattern. Then he rigs my recovery so it doesn't recovery won't work or it will install his hacked rom. What can I do to a. Log this, b. Secure my next device. C. Stop this ahole. My privacy and security is gone

Bump im using catlog and no root. Should I root it for additional protection

Any tools I can use to prevent intrusion or log his actions

lmf said:
Hey guys need some assistance. Every phone or tablet and laptop new old hers hacked by my tenants boyfriend. He hacked everything from my ipad mini 2 with all updates ios 8'3 to my android phones moto g sony Xperia even a cheap nokia lumia 635. I put them on airplane mode and he's able to worm his way in. I turn off bluetooth update everything but nothing is working. I only rooted one phone. He generally installs a backdoor them changes my luck pin or pw or pattern. Then he rigs my recovery so it doesn't recovery won't work or it will install his hacked rom. What can I do to a. Log this, b. Secure my next device. C. Stop this ahole. My privacy and security is gone
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Explain how you came to this conclusion, as a IOS8.3 exploit is worth six figures, so seems perplexing to waste it to hack a neighbor

First thing you need to do is find out how he is getting his hands on your devices.
Almost everything you describe requires him to have possession on your devices for decent amounts of time.
You have no digital security if you have no physical security.

Either you have schizophrenia, or he's got the key to your place.

You're sure he isn't sneaking into your place at night or something?

aliyangohar4 said:
You're sure he isn't sneaking into your place at night or something?
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Sounds like that. Haha...
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shadowcore said:
Sounds like that. Haha...
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But just to watch him sleep

lmf said:
Hey guys need some assistance. Every phone or tablet and laptop new old hers hacked by my tenants boyfriend. He hacked everything from my ipad mini 2 with all updates ios 8'3 to my android phones moto g sony Xperia even a cheap nokia lumia 635. I put them on airplane mode and he's able to worm his way in. I turn off bluetooth update everything but nothing is working. I only rooted one phone. He generally installs a backdoor them changes my luck pin or pw or pattern. Then he rigs my recovery so it doesn't recovery won't work or it will install his hacked rom. What can I do to a. Log this, b. Secure my next device. C. Stop this ahole. My privacy and security is gone
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I think you should change all your passwords of Wifi, phone and switch off your wifi or bletooth when not in use. If he still can hack your phone then he might be some genius and you need to complaint about it in police.

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Remote task29 as security

Hi Guys
Is there a application that could execute a remote task29 if phone gets stolen?
Most of theves are dump so would not know how to put the OS back on.
The normal way of IMEI blocking does not work, some networks will not care to block, some will not communicate to others so it will be blocked for example on O2 but not t-mobile... We all also know that you just need to sell a IMEI blocked unit abroad.
Two functions would need to be present:
Function 1 a remote wipe so you send a txt message.
Function 2 is to wipe the phone if new sim is inserted and password is not provided. Such software would need to be able to cook itself in to rom.
Second possibility for Function 2 is each time new sim is inserted a txt message is sent on pre-arranged mobile number and then use remote wipe.
lookout mobile security has that feature of remote wipe.
www.mylookout.com
antivirus, remote wipe, and gps locator all work.
nrfitchett4 said:
lookout mobile security has that feature of remote wipe.
www.mylookout.com
antivirus, remote wipe, and gps locator all work.
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It is not even remotely the same as even if you do wipe the device it is still usable, there is just you data erased. I am talking OS erased so phone does not work, so you can get it to bootloader and only if you know how.
ruscik said:
It is not even remotely the same as even if you do wipe the device it is still usable, there is just you data erased. I am talking OS erased so phone does not work, so you can get it to bootloader and only if you know how.
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considering you cannot even task29 unless you are synced to a computer, how do you suppose this can be accomplished???
nrfitchett4 said:
considering you cannot even task29 unless you are synced to a computer, how do you suppose this can be accomplished???
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I am not a software developer but I would say a app that works just before OS boots.
TBH task29 seems like the best idea as if you were to get the phone back you could get it back online but any app that would brick the phone remotely is what one needs.
I am quite certain something like that could be done.
why not have it flash a bricking radio from sd card or within the rom, if the command is send?
how about an app then makes the phone transform into a plane and fly back to you?
its impossible what you are asking for afaik
davidgk said:
how about an app then makes the phone transform into a plane and fly back to you?
its impossible what you are asking for afaik
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Bolox I can flash radio or OS from SD card. All a app would need to do is get phone to bootloader on command and have, as suggested, a bricked rom for radio on SD card. A bricked radio rom would not need to be big in size so a cab installer would work.
Its a very good idea, hope some1 can do it..
my hats off to you sir, a very good idea!
Now if there is only a developer skilled enough to realise it!
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Bolox I can flash radio or OS from SD card. All a app would need to do is get phone to bootloader on command and have, as suggested, a bricked rom for radio on SD card. A bricked radio rom would not need to be big in size so a cab installer would work.
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but what does this achieve for you???
A phone wiping program would wipe personal data.
What would bricking the phone do except make the phone unusable?
You'll still be out a phone...
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but what does this achieve for you???
A phone wiping program would wipe personal data.
What would bricking the phone do except make the phone unusable?
You'll still be out a phone...
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Might be so, but if knowledge gets around that more and more phones can (and will) be bricked remotely once stolen, why steal?
I think it would be a very useful feature on any phone.
So I agree with the question for such an app.
Regards,
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but what does this achieve for you???
A phone wiping program would wipe personal data.
What would bricking the phone do except make the phone unusable?
You'll still be out a phone...
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Well why do you fit a alarm on a car when it is gone it is gone, why do you put alarm in a house when they come they come.
Something odd with this statement. Why would you think it is ok for some one who stole my phone to use it when I had to work for it?
For me best solution would be to have it wired with C4 and 5s in to first phone call boom!!!
As that would be illegal second option brick the phone.
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Well why do you fit a alarm on a car when it is gone it is gone, why do you put alarm in a house when they come they come.
Something odd with this statement. Why would you think it is ok for some one who stole my phone to use it when I had to work for it?
For me best solution would be to have it wired with C4 and 5s in to first phone call boom!!!
As that would be illegal second option brick the phone.
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Since when does a car alarm or home alarm burn down my house or car? That is essentially the same thing. If someone breaks into my house and steals my 60" dlp, I can't remote detonate it either.
I'm guessing that I don't understand. Maybe it is my long history with cdma phones that had esn's that could be blocked making the phones worthless (usually) once stolen.
Ill build it .... i just need a few beta testers?
Any takers?
jk.. i actually like the idea of disabling my phone if i knew it was gone for sure. .but i dont think i would be comfortable running around with this bomb in my phone unless i knew how to fix it.. and a bricked radio (easiest remote detonate solution) is obviously unfixable.
you know I was hoping this topic was headed in a different direction. like the phone company or microsoft running ras commands. like injecting and changing your files around so when you go to flash the seed will be planted for later execution. but dude if your phone gets stolen beat the punk bastards ass. or make sure you have handset protection. stupid topic. its just gonna add to the bricked my phone posts but not before they go on a couple of paragraphs of how they know what there doing but this and but that. wow then its gonna keep spreading like a ****ing plauge of dumb ass questions instead of keeping their cocksucker shut and read and learn. if your not f-ing it up, then your not learning.
i remember the sony ericsson p910, p990, and p1i could have set a sim password that works the same way the bios password works on most laptops with this feature... once the sim changed or the phone is flashed, the password must be entered to boot into the OS, personally i think this should be standard on every mobile OS...
and regardless how much times you reinstall windows, flash the bios, or remove the bios battery, the password remains, kinda annoying but at least it works
There are already some really good apps available for if your phone is lost or stolen. I don't know the names off the top of my head but I did some help on development on one 2 years ago and it was quite advanced and will send you silent text containing the new IME number if changed and the GPS location. Rendering the phone useless would be stupid in my opinion if you intend on retrieving it. let the security software do it's job and be happy to get your phone back.

Touchscreen Phone Without Wifi

This may be a strange request, but I would like to get a phone for my young child that is unable to access the internet. I can disable data services through my network provider, but need a phone without Wifi capabilities. However, I would like to get him a touchscreen smartphone if possible.
Does anyone know of such a phone? The only one I have found so far is the Sony Ericsson W150 Yendo, but are there any others?
Thanks
Samsung Touchwiz i think
its pretty old so i dont have that option
The HTC Freestyle from at&t in the United States doesn't have a wifi chip built in so it is required to use cellular data. If you block it there won't be a way for that phone to access internet.
Its basically a dummed down android phone (lower specs and no wifi).
It is GSM, and unlockable for cheap .
Specs are here: gsmarena.com/htc_freestyle-3707.php
I order my unlock codes from a site: unlockusa.com
It has more than USA unlocks available and does AT&T unlocks pretty cheap .
Sorry for not posting the links, only my second post
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deadlocked007 said:
That's horrible man. Don't taunt a kid with a smartphone but disable the WiFi. That's just plain horrible. The point of smartphones almost entirely revolves around their advanced use of the internet. Just buy the kid a feature phone for goodness sakes...
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A smartphone without any data options is still better than a feature phone without them. . .
Better OS, better phone experience.
Also to the OP.. if you disable data to the device that doesn't have any WiFi ability.. it will be impossible for them t download apps or use any of the features like the google play store, maps, etc without you calling in to re-enable the data for the time being, and then disabling it again afterwards.
Well.. you said touchscreen not smartphone. There's the Samsung champ which doesn't have Wi-Fi
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SeaTan said:
This may be a strange request, but I would like to get a phone for my young child that is unable to access the internet. I can disable data services through my network provider, but need a phone without Wifi capabilities. However, I would like to get him a touchscreen smartphone if possible.
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Out of curiosity, what are the reasons? Does he need a phone at all? Why a touchscreen phone and not a regular one?
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LG Cookie? Not a smartphone, but no WiFi and a quite decent touchscreen... Lot of kids have it since it has touchscreen and it's very cheap
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What do you mean better experience -_- you can't do anything with it.... Like what you are saying. The kid will just lust for the use of data man
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The feature phones don't have as nice of a touchscreen (such as the response to touch). They also don't have as nice of menus, or anything to do with messaging is just easier with an android os device. Calling / Contacts, use of an SD card is all much better with a smartphone. Feature phones are quirky with reading pictures off of an SD card that didn't originate in the phone. Whereas android phones have no problems reading any picture files on an SD card.
Bottom line, if you could pick a feature phone, or an android device. Neither getting WiFi or any data connectivity.. which would you choose?
Is it not possible to root and just delete the WiFi modules on any phone?
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Also, the absence of data transfer plan or wifi seems kinda stupid on a OS (Android) that was made to be in sync to the services it provides generally (Google). You even need to login in order to use the device.
The touchscreen argument generally will not hold a lot of water. ZTE even makes Android phones with resistive touchscreens.
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The original Palm Pixi? That's one of the only modern touchscreen smartphones that I can think of without WiFi.
Just dont tell him the wifi password?
Jk, but if your coming to XDA for help i would suggest rooting it and taking out everything related to wifi from /system
You could use any android phone and simply lock wifi access with https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sp.protector.free&hl=en so that you could install apps they need but they could not.
That way they get the benefit of new apps or updates without them being able to access the phones wifi.
It also allows locking any app such as browser etc.
Dave
( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
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The feature phones don't have as nice of a touchscreen (such as the response to touch). They also don't have as nice of menus, or anything to do with messaging is just easier with an android os device. Calling / Contacts, use of an SD card is all much better with a smartphone. Feature phones are quirky with reading pictures off of an SD card that didn't originate in the phone. Whereas android phones have no problems reading any picture files on an SD card.
Bottom line, if you could pick a feature phone, or an android device. Neither getting WiFi or any data connectivity.. which would you choose?
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Lol what? If you have Verizon I suggest you check out the envtouch by LG. Touch screen, 3" display and you can flip it open for a full QWERTY keyboard that in my opinion no phone stands up to not even Droid 4 even though I like that phones keyboard envroich's is still better.
Never had trouble with SD card, or pictures that where not from that phone. Hell all of my razr v2 camera pics all displayed fine.
Video was a bit of a pain but its a feature phone. And unless you are going from android to envtouch you want notice anything wrong with how well the touch screen works.
Can envtouch be a bastard yeah but so is my dx2 hell I like my envtouch a little bit more then my dx2. Well my old dx2 anyway just got my replacement dx2 and its bugs are far less (though that damn music skip is still there.
For a feature phone the envtouch was the best out of my (unnamed Samsung, my razr, and my razr v2).
Good touch screen
Full QWERTY keyboard
Stereo audio
SD expansion
Good menu system
Good basic apps
Nice build (never needed a screen protector nor case and syllable in great shape)
No wifi.
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You are the most worst parent in the world.
OptimusLove said:
You are the most worst parent in the world.
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That's an oxymoron
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Getting a touchscreen smartphone without WiFi will be awkward as most of the apps need and use WiFi.There is no use of a smartphone without WiFi And i think you cant call a phone without WiFi a SMARTPHONE.:
He'll be able to side load apps from the SD card, won't need wifi necessarily. Still think it would be easier to just disable the wifi modules on any phone. How old is the kid?
Nokia 5230 or Nokia 5233 if you don't want 3G.
Lets face it, OP is a idiotic child abuser that wants his child to not use new tech. Id rather molest a child than give a low end phone, Its okay 2 years ago, now its not.
OptimusLove said:
Lets face it, OP is a idiotic child abuser that wants his child to not use new tech. Id rather molest a child than give a low end phone, Its okay 2 years ago, now its not.
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Depends on the child. If the kid is responsible enough, give him/her a phone. I see many kids abuse the power of smartphones by taking pictures, harassing other people by calls, SMS or internet, porn, etc... .

android security

Hi everyone , I've been an android user for the last couple of years I still own an iPhone but I'm really excited to sell it because from now on I feel that buying an iPhone is buying a piece of plastic with technology from 3 years ago with an apple sticker , OK, why am I making this post well .Nowadays stealing a phone is useless because of the security measures used on them , with an iPhone it's impossible to unlock the device without the icloud but on the Android side , with my note 5 I'm able to reset and use it like it was a brand new phone even though I've set the fingerprints lockscreen, if someone steals my phone they can press home+power+volume up and do a factory reset and BANG they have a new phone , I have rooted my phone but is anything possible fix this ? Any kind of configuration or app that stills make the recovery menu possible and the factory reset option but still maintain my security configuration that why even that people erase all the data on my.phone the couldn't be able to use it because it would still have the lockscreen setup with my f in Niger prints or code . Thank you
ralls94 said:
Hi everyone , I've been an android user for the last couple of years I still own an iPhone but I'm really excited to sell it because from now on I feel that buying an iPhone is buying a piece of plastic with technology from 3 years ago with an apple sticker , OK, why am I making this post well .Nowadays stealing a phone is useless because of the security measures used on them , with an iPhone it's impossible to unlock the device without the icloud but on the Android side , with my note 5 I'm able to reset and use it like it was a brand new phone even though I've set the fingerprints lockscreen, if someone steals my phone they can press home+power+volume up and do a factory reset and BANG they have a new phone , I have rooted my phone but is anything possible fix this ? Any kind of configuration or app that stills make the recovery menu possible and the factory reset option but still maintain my security configuration that why even that people erase all the data on my.phone the couldn't be able to use it because it would still have the lockscreen setup with my f in Niger prints or code . Thank you
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To be honest no. Even your finger print can be grabbed from the device. No mobile device security is complete. There are even ways to get around apples.
Best advise is dont lose your device or keep anything really important on it.
there are back doors built into android I read a while ago that if you know the persons Gmail account on the phone you can actually make it urs I mean the imei number might be bad but there is always wifi but anyways all u need is the Gmail associated with the phone and the password null and bam you in I have yet to try it but I will here in a few
There's an option to enable a reactivation lock. But really, flashing a custom ROM will remove this. There's no way around it, on any device.
Installing some security software may help to catch a thief. I'm using one which takes picture using front camera and emailing it to me after 3 unsuccessful passwords. On rooted phone is impossible to remove untill you flash new firmware
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Galaxy Xcover 4 is driving me insane

I work for an NGO in The Gambia. Every year, a company gives us their decommissioned phones as a gift. We equip them with a few apps, switch the phones to English, and if necessary make a good one out of two broken phones. After we send everything to the Gambia and distribute it to our staff.
About me, I am an IT system technician, I am well versed in the administration of Windows and Linux systems and have many years of professional experience. But I'm only marginally familiar with Android systems, I've played around with ADB a bit or rooted my own phone, but nothing more.
This year we received, among other things, 6 Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 mobile phones. Of these, 5 are blocked, obviously the mobiles had been reset to factory settings. Of course they didn't know that the Google accounts had to be removed BEFORE!
I didn't even know the term FRP until a few days ago. Odin was also a foreign word for me and I had never loaded firmware into a mobile before.
I've learned a lot since then but of course I still don't have a clue.
I suggest that these phones now have a security level that successfully repels all known ways of entering the system. Especially with this tip I had high hopes that this could lead to success: (https://github.com/wuseman/Samsung.Xcover.4-FrpBypass), but that doesn't work either.
Neither does the original of this idea at https://www.hardreset.info/devices/...le-verification/frp-samsung-android-8-2020/?p =5
For the latter, I had specially simulated a battery, because it is almost impossible to insert the SIM card with the battery inserted. But as I said, all unsuccessful.
I thought a solution could be to downgrade the operating system so that one of the exploits could now work again. That's why I started experimenting with Odin. And only Stock FW. I found it here e.g. https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-xcover-4/firmware/SM-G390F/DBT/#SM-G390F.
However, the attempt to downgrade within an Android version already fails. So if Android 9 U5 is on the cell phone and I want to downgrade to U4, that's not possible. Thank goodness Odin somehow checks that and breaks off, so far I haven't lost any of the phones.
Is there a way to tweak this somehow? Or are these phones lost?
What exactly does this FRP do. Why isn't this information also deleted from the phone by flashing? Where the hell do they store the info that this phone once was used with a ****ing google account!
I lost several nights to solve this. For that lost time I could buy 5 brandnew phones, but in the meantime that is also a question of prestige.
I would be really grateful for any advice!
Klaus (from germany)
If the Google account wasn't removed it wasn't properly decommissioned!
blackhawk said:
If the Google account wasn't removed it wasn't properly decommissioned!
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Some of this phones (not the xcover) even have working exchange accounts installed. Is a small company.
Klaus D. said:
Some of this phones (not the xcover) even have working exchange accounts installed. Is a small company.
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The easiest way is to have the original users remove their Google account and maybe Samsung Knox account if applicable. It needs to all be gone.
FRP is well known and is in place to help secure devices in the event of being lost or stolen.

Question Is there a one click root method for Pixel phones?

Magisk seems to be the only way to root it for now even with OEM unlock function on with bootloader. I'm on android 13 and Pixel 7 Pro. Root methods like Kingroot seems to fail and be stuck at 1 %. But Magisk works fine.
Year 2015 is asking for their Kingroot back. lol
Rooting nowadays literally can't be easier. Install the magisk app, extract the init_boot.img from the ROM you wanna use/flash, patch init_boot.img inside the magisk app and flash that img in fastboot.
Take a look at PixelFlasher.
why would u want to use a one click root on a pixel pointless. pixelflasher is where its at.
Well for me, if any, it's not about one click root.
What i really long for is bootloader unlock & root without the need of PC. Lol,
just like in time when you can jailbreak iphone directly from browser. So easy that someone prank the apple stores, jailbreaking the whole display unit.
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why would u want to use a one click root on a pixel pointless. pixelflasher is where its at.
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someone obviously missed the entire DECADE we didn't need a cable to do anything unless it involved terminal commands.
UltimateGamer83 said:
Magisk seems to be the only way to root it for now even with OEM unlock function on with bootloader. I'm on android 13 and Pixel 7 Pro. Root methods like Kingroot seems to fail and be stuck at 1 %. But Magisk works fine.
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Because Kingroot was possible to use back then thanks to security holes in the system, which have been patched and locked down.
hp420 said:
someone obviously missed the entire DECADE we didn't need a cable to do anything unless it involved terminal commands.
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Your statement makes absolutely no sense. We didn't need a cable unless it involved terminal commands? That would be every single time this decade and the last. He was stating with Pixel Flasher it couldn't be any easier.
schmeggy929 said:
First off, don't be a douche.
Second, your statement makes absolutely no sense. We didn't need a cable unless it involved terminal commands? That would be every single time this decade and the last. He was stating with Pixel Flasher it couldn't be any easier.
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first off, do your homework.
second, we literally regressed in flashing. we used to have clockwork, cm recovery, twrp, etc...a million tetherless solutions. for a whole decade. i never needed a desktop computer to flash a phone until recently. but yeah.... pixel flasher is great .....at sucking.
i want my Nexus back Google. this Pixel line sucks.
hp420 said:
first off, do your homework.
second, we literally regressed in flashing. we used to have clockwork, cm recovery, twrp, etc...a million tetherless solutions. for a whole decade. i never needed a desktop computer to flash a phone until recently. but yeah.... pixel flasher is great .....at sucking.
i want my Nexus back Google. this Pixel line sucks.
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Pixelflasher is basically a 1-click method for rooting/updating your phone. It's the easiest thing in the world. For 2-clicks, you can flash a custom ROM.
So sorry that you need a computer to root. It's not 2013 anymore. Manufacturers do everything they can to prevent the very thing you want to do. If it's too much of an issue to do what it takes to Root your phone, then don't root it. My Pixel 6 Pro was never rooted, It worked fine. It did everything I needed it to do.
My Nexus 6 was rooted and customized like a muscle car. It also did everything I needed it to do. (I still have it, right in my desk)
If you have issues with Recovery - and I miss Clockwork Recovery big time (I only used TWRP on one device) see if you can get Joey Krim to come out of retirement and create a recovery for this phone. (I still have his recoveries on my Dev-host, actually).
The point is, things change. We don't have hard-key keyboards anymore. We don't have attached antennas anymore. Technology moves forward, not backwards and if we're going to be rebels and mod our phones, we can only go with what actually works.
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So sorry that you need a computer to root. It's not 2013 anymore.
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I know all of 2 people who own a desktop or laptop. Two. Like you said yourself....it's not 2013 anymore. 5 years ago I was finally able to ditch a computer, but now I should go spend like $400 so I can flash my phone???? Seriously, listen to this logic.
WE HAVE GONE BACKWARDS FROM NEXUS. PIXELS STINK FOR MODDING.
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I know all of 2 people who own a desktop or laptop. Two. Like you said yourself....it's not 2013 anymore. 5 years ago I was finally able to ditch a computer, but now I should go spend like $400 so I can flash my phone???? Seriously, listen to this logic.
WE HAVE GONE BACKWARDS FROM NEXUS. PIXELS SUCK FOR MODDING.
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I don't think Google screwed anyone. Google does things with the average user in mind (although that can open up another can of worms ) , not modders. The average user doesn't unlock their bootloader, doesn't root, doesn't mod, etc.. It's not Google's job to make things easier for modders.
Hell, I'm just thankful we can root at all.
Lughnasadh said:
I don't think Google screwed anyone. Google does things with the average user in mind (although that can open up another can of worms ) , not modders. The average user doesn't unlock their bootloader, doesn't root, doesn't mod, etc.. It's not Google's job to make things easier for modders.
Hell, I'm just thankful we can root at all.
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Correct. It's Google's job to make Android more secure, not easier to hack. SuperSU doesn't exist anymore so now we need to use a PC.
I believe you can still flash Magisk in TWRP by renaming the .apk to .zip to gain root, but unfortunately there's no TWRP versions for Android 13 yet.
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I don't think Google screwed anyone. Google does things with the average user in mind (although that can open up another can of worms ) , not modders. The average user doesn't unlock their bootloader, doesn't root, doesn't mod, etc.. It's not Google's job to make things easier for modders.
Hell, I'm just thankful we can root at all.
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Nexus was specifically made as a reference Android device. Google ripped that away from us for a phone made for "the average user" in Pixel. My sentiment stands. We got shafted HARD! I love my p7. But I wanted a Nexus. It's really disappointing to see Google abandon us so much! We had it MADE with TWRP. We would have been better served with the Play suite of phones if they wanted user friendly...but they killed that too!!! Google kills EVERYTHING we love.
Someone doesn't seem to understand that the only reason those tools worked was because they relied on an OS that was full of security holes. Google just plugged those holes. It may be more inconvenient now than it used to be but it's much more secure for everyone.
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Someone doesn't seem to understand that the only reason those tools worked was because they relied on an OS that was full of security holes. Google just plugged those holes. It may be more inconvenient now than it used to be but it's much more secure for everyone.
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someone doesn't seem to understand not everyone cares about security over functionality. idk about you, but i've never had a single issue. not one. ever. going all the way back to 2009 with my first android. and if my count is correct i've had around 3 phones that were unrooted, and those were only because of encrypted bootloaders.
the only time any of my info ends up in the wrong hands is because of server security. has nothing to do with my phone. this is a linux device. NOTHING happens without permission anyway.
hp420 said:
someone doesn't seem to understand not everyone cares about security over functionality. idk about you, but i've never had a single issue. not one. ever. going all the way back to 2009 with my first android. and if my count is correct i've had around 3 phones that were unrooted, and those were only because of encrypted bootloaders.
the only time any of my info ends up in the wrong hands is because of server security. has nothing to do with my phone. this is a linux device. NOTHING happens without permission anyway.
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Your disinterest in security doesn't mean that 99%+ should have to suffer with an insecure OS just so that you're not inconvenienced when trying to mod your device.
EtherealRemnant said:
Your disinterest in security doesn't mean that 99%+ should have to suffer with an insecure OS just so that you're not inconvenienced when trying to mod your device.
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well maybe what i really want to see from a phone is : "iknowwhatamdoing" mode,
something like 'csrutil disable' or secureboot disable in mac/PC
and that toogle should be available from the device itself. Not by connecting to other device.
let the one that need full security to be on stock mode
and let anyone who know what they are doing, bypass any security mean.
otonieru said:
well maybe what i really want to see from a phone is : "iknowwhatamdoing" mode,
something like 'csrutil disable' or secureboot disable in mac/PC
and that toogle should be available from the device itself. Not by connecting to other device.
let the one that need full security to be on stock mode
and let anyone who know what they are doing, bypass any security mean.
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Giving the ability to bypass security just gives shady characters a shiny red target to figure out how to exploit. It would make no sense to allow this directly on the device.
hp420 said:
I know all of 2 people who own a desktop or laptop. Two. Like you said yourself....it's not 2013 anymore. 5 years ago I was finally able to ditch a computer, but now I should go spend like $400 so I can flash my phone???? Seriously, listen to this logic.
WE HAVE GONE BACKWARDS FROM NEXUS. PIXELS SUCK FOR MODDING.
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No, they didn't because they never intended to have their phones rooted. If you want to break the rules, then pay the price.
Teenagers don't have computers anymore. Gaming alone is a multi-billion-dollar-a-year industry: Graphic Design/Web design, accounting, media servers, work force servers - all on computers or laptops.

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