[Q] CWM Recovery for Lenovo B8000-H - General Questions and Answers

Could someone give me a working cwm recovery?

Arkonite said:
Could someone give me a working cwm recovery?
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It seems no one has created a CWM for your phone.
You can create it on your own.
Check here: How to make CWM recovery
You can get scatter file and boot.img from the stock ROM here: http://13freak.blogspot.in/2014/12/lenovo-yoga-b8000-h-3g-100-firmware.html

GokulNC said:
It seems no one has created a CWM for your phone.
You can create it on your own.
Check here: How to make CWM recovery
You can get scatter file and boot.img from the stock ROM here: http://13freak.blogspot.in/2014/12/lenovo-yoga-b8000-h-3g-100-firmware.html
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Thanks for the tutorial but it said flashing on unrooted phone so will it work even if my phone is rooted?:good:

Arkonite said:
Thanks for the tutorial but it said flashing on unrooted phone so will it work even if my phone is rooted?:good:
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Of course yes

GokulNC said:
Of course yes
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By the way he is using mt6595 mine is mt8389 so can I still do it?
I'm worried that I may brick my device so I'm being careful. Thanks for the immediate response.

Arkonite said:
By the way he is using mt6595 mine is mt8389 so can I still do it?
I'm worried that I may brick my device so I'm being careful. Thanks for the immediate response.
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Yes, most MTK devices will work for that.
If you're afraid it will brick the phone, you can do this:
Follow the steps from there until recovery image (.img file) is created.
Then boot into Fastboot mode (Google it if u don't knkno
then using ADB, execute this command:
Code:
fastboot boot pathname/recovery_name.img
(Where pathname is the directory where recovery is present with name recovery_name.img)
Better rename it as recovery.img and place in C:\ and use it like this:
fastboot boot C:\recovery.img
If it boots and CWM recovery shows up, then you can flash it
U can also use it directly by this way by booting

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***emergency please help im in deep ****

hi there, as the title says im in real deep trouble. To start off i rooted my phone which want a problem, but then i tried installing a rom which wasnt a problem either. The problem is i didn't know i had to install GAPPS so i wiped my phone and tried again. The stupid thing was that i completely wiped the whole phone i have no OS and my recovery doesn't work anymore. I cant access my phone through my computer as it tells me to format my phone. I cant even access recovery anymore my phone just goes in a cycle of rebooting. PLEASE I BEG YOU HELP ME ! X'(
wolfbear911 said:
hi there, as the title says im in real deep trouble. To start off i rooted my phone which want a problem, but then i tried installing a rom which wasnt a problem either. The problem is i didn't know i had to install GAPPS so i wiped my phone and tried again. The stupid thing was that i completely wiped the whole phone i have no OS and my recovery doesn't work anymore. I cant access my phone through my computer as it tells me to format my phone. I cant even access recovery anymore my phone just goes in a cycle of rebooting. PLEASE I BEG YOU HELP ME ! X'(
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Can you go into Bootloader/Fastboot? (Volume Down + Power)
EDIT: Read your other thread. You need to flash a stock recovery. You can do that via fastboot. Flash a stock recovery, format SD card, then flash a custom recovery again and you should be good to go.
Process of flashing any recovery is easy. Refer to the method in my signature, you just need to follow the RECOVERY FLASHING PART ONLY.
Other necessary info is also available.
khan.orak said:
Can you go into Bootloader/Fastboot? (Volume Down + Power)
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Yes do you know how i can fix my phone ?
wolfbear911 said:
Yes do you know how i can fix my phone ?
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Yeah, read the previous EDITED post. Follow steps 17, 18 of the tutorial. Read the Pre-Requisites and Common Steps also and flash the recovery.
Thanks man, ill give you a thanks
khan.orak said:
Yeah, read the previous EDITED post. Follow steps 17, 18 of the tutorial. Read the Pre-Requisites and Common Steps also and flash the recovery.
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dude it says : error cannot load recovery.img (sorry if i come out as a noob its my first time doing this)
wolfbear911 said:
dude it says : error cannot load recovery.img (sorry if i come out as a noob its my first time doing this)
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No problem.
Fastboot drivers ok?
where did you get from and then put recovery.img?
also check name of the whateverRecovery.img file to be the same as "recovery.img"
khan.orak said:
No problem.
Fastboot drivers ok?
where did you get from and then put recovery.img?
also check name of the whateverRecovery.img file to be the same as "recovery.img"
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i did that now a list of commands has just popped up on my cmd ?
Can you upload a screenshot ? Will be helpful.
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 4 Beta
khan.orak said:
Can you upload a screenshot ? Will be helpful.
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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i think i uploaded one now
wolfbear911 said:
i think i uploaded one now
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I have to say, I can't see anything in that Pic. :/
Try to upload a zoomed one.
try this
wolfbear911 said:
try this
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You missed the correct command, flash part. Try this:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
khan.orak said:
You missed the correct command, flash part. Try this:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
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IT WORKED YES ! what do i do now
wolfbear911 said:
IT WORKED YES ! what do i do now
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Great. Now you have a stock recovery. Just format the SD Card from recovery and the SD should be good.
Afterwards, you can flash any custom recovery and mess around with flashing ROMs etc.
khan.orak said:
Great. Now you have a stock recovery. Just format the SD Card from recovery and the SD should be good.
Afterwards, you can flash any custom recovery and mess around with flashing ROMs etc.
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that my phone doesnt launch recovery, it stays on the htc loading screen :/
wolfbear911 said:
that my phone doesnt launch recovery, it stays on the htc loading screen :/
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Where did you get the recovery from?
Also, which version One S do you have? S3 or S4?
khan.orak said:
Where did you get the recovery from?
Also, which version One S do you have? S3 or S4?
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well i used the twrp 2.3.3.0 from your guide
I used s3 to root my phone so i guess its s3
wolfbear911 said:
well i used the twrp 2.3.3.0 from your guide
I used s3 to root my phone so i guess its s3
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Download This. Open the zip file with 7-Zip or WinRAR, go to firmware.zip, extract recovery.img.
Then flash the recovery in the same way. This is the stock recovery and not TWRP.
I am assuming your phone to be S3 and updated to Jellybean already.
khan.orak said:
Download This. Open the zip file with 7-Zip or WinRAR, go to firmware.zip, extract recovery.img.
Then flash the recovery in the same way. This is the stock recovery and not TWRP.
I am assuming your phone to be S3 and updated to Jellybean already.
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i remember somthing about running 4.2.2 if that helps and i will start downloading now and i shall post results when im done

[Q] How to root lenovo A6000(Similar to Lemon K3)

Hey guys
Yesterday I got my new phone and i just wanna know how to root it ,
can anyone help?
you can find it's source code( idk whether this is helpful or not) from support . lenovo .com ->smartphones->A series->A6000
(I cannot paste links in here as i am new)
Thanks in advance
since this device new, we dont know if old root tool will work. but u can try apps such as framaroot or keyrootmaster.
FYI lenovo source code isnt complete, we hard to build from that source
Shinkumara said:
since this device new, we dont know if old root tool will work. but u can try apps such as framaroot or keyrootmaster.
FYI lenovo source code isnt complete, we hard to build from that source
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I have tried both Frameroot aswell as rootmaster ,but with no success
Anyways i got it
Here's how to root it
The below is the youtube link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jn8uwnaoZo
Did you face any problems while rooting it? How about after rooting it? Any issues? Wifi, Bluetooth etc doesn't work?
indy1811 said:
Did you face any problems while rooting it? How about after rooting it? Any issues? Wifi, Bluetooth etc doesn't work?
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Every thing's working good
The link is below ,just go to youtube.com and type the below link after that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jn8uwnaoZo
fawazahmed0 said:
Every thing's working good
The link is below ,just go to youtube.com and type the below link after that
watch?v=4jn8uwnaoZo
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Thanks man. I successfully rooted my phone.
Why do you need to run commands to extract the recovery file etc? Doesn't backing up using CWM do the same thing? Can't you just copy the files from the backup folder to your PC?
indy1811 said:
Thanks man. I successfully rooted my phone.
Why do you need to run commands to extract the recovery file etc? Doesn't backing up using CWM do the same thing? Can't you just copy the files from the backup folder to your PC?
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I thought that backing up from cwm will backup cwm recovery and not the stock recovery
and one more thing can you send me the stock recovery file as i forgot to backup that file
fawazahmed0 said:
I thought that backing up from cwm will backup cwm recovery and not the stock recovery
and one more thing can you send me the stock recovery file as i forgot to backup that file
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How do i check what i backed up was the stock recovery or the one that you uploaded?
indy1811 said:
How do i check what i backed up was the stock recovery or the one that you uploaded?
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Go to clockworkmod/Backup/Backup folder in here you will find an recovery.img file just paste it to desktop and connect your phone to pc and type the following in cmd
cd desktop
adb devices
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot devices
to boot recovery temporarily type
fastboot boot recovery.img
if you see your stock recovery in your phone then you have backed up your stock recovery and if it's cwm recovery then you have backed up that recovery
fawazahmed0 said:
Go to clockworkmod/Backup/Backup folder in here you will find an recovery.img file just paste it to desktop and connect your phone to pc and type the following in cmd
cd desktop
adb devices
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot devices
to boot recovery temporarily type
fastboot boot recovery.img
if you see your stock recovery in your phone then you have backed up your stock recovery and if it's cwm recovery then you have backed up that recovery
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Will go back home and check.
Where i can get the cwm recovery for this phone?
fawazahmed0 said:
I thought that backing up from cwm will backup cwm recovery and not the stock recovery
and one more thing can you send me the stock recovery file as i forgot to backup that file
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Link to stock recovery:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/5ya7mkdme24qztp/recovery.img
Any Custom rom available ?
indy1811 said:
Link to stock recovery:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/5ya7mkdme24qztp/recovery.img
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Thanks
kramkumar said:
Any Custom rom available ?
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MIUI 6
MIUI 5
CM 11
roms are available for lemon k3 ,which will also work on a6000 and i have tested that thing
search in baidu for lemon k3 roms
wow great, can u provide the link for that rom please?
Can you Provide link to ROMs
Sent from my Lenovo A6000 using XDA Free mobile app
Shinkumara said:
wow great, can u provide the link for that rom please?
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http://bbs.lenovomobile.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=593&page=1
http://bbs.ydss.cn/forum-lenovo_k3-1.html
http://bbs.lenovo.com/k30/
cm11 rom http://bbs.lenovo.com/k30/t540534/
miui 6 rom http://bbs.lenovo.com/k30/t544431/
In nickname login
User: pano
Pass: panorama
pankajkohar said:
Can you Provide link to ROMs
Sent from my Lenovo A6000 using XDA Free mobile app
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http://bbs.lenovomobile.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=593&page=1
http://bbs.ydss.cn/forum-lenovo_k3-1.html
http://bbs.lenovo.com/k30/
cm11 rom http://bbs.lenovo.com/k30/t540534/
miui 6 rom http://bbs.lenovo.com/k30/t544431/
In nickname login
User: pano
Pass: panorama

[Q] Could Somebody Compile TWRP or CWM for SM-G360F please?

any help would be much appreciated i attach my recovery.img boot.img and recovery.fstab zipped, thanks in advance
finch69 said:
any help would be much appreciated i attach my recovery.img boot.img and recovery.fstab zipped, thanks in advance
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Thank to you I repaired my PHONE THX DUDE
I take it u needed the stock files my friend, im glad i helped
finch69 said:
any help would be much appreciated i attach my recovery.img boot.img and recovery.fstab zipped, thanks in advance
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people can use the cwm recovery for the G360H to create an for G360F, the product are similar only 4G not present on the 360H. caution because i see the recovery arent on /dev/block/mmcblk0p21 but on /dev/block/mmcblk0p17.
ps: i try to flash recovery from G360H and cant go to recovery.
Anyone has CWM or TWRP compiled for SM-G360H?
9999 hours in linux
Not sure if it works, I don't have the phone ( I will in 1 week or so, but not sure if the LTE or non-LTE)
anyways this is for G360F
and I compiled it with -eng, so maybe there is more debug output..
Also I don't know the GPIO key values so I don't think you will be able to move through the menu.. I only want to know if its bootable.
zip is not flashable
Edited, not bootable
Look at the latest post, new image!!
Is the recovery tested?
nagalun said:
9999 hours in linux
Not sure if it works, I don't have the phone ( I will in 1 week or so, but not sure if the LTE or non-LTE)
anyways this is for G360F
and I compiled it with -eng, so maybe there is more debug output..
Also I don't know the GPIO key values so I don't think you will be able to move through the menu.. I only want to know if its bootable.
zip is not flashable
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it's not bootable
gabi4175601 said:
it's not bootable
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Thanks for telling me, does the screen flash white for a moment?
or does ADB work?
nagalun said:
Thanks for telling me, does the screen flash white for a moment?
or does ADB work?
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the phone goes to download mode, SYSTEM COULD NOT BOOT, apears before knox info. no adb, only kies v3 recognized the phone and reflashed
gabi4175601 said:
the phone goes to download mode, SYSTEM COULD NOT BOOT, apears before knox info. no adb, only kies v3 recognized the phone and reflashed
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Would you be willing to test one or two img's for me?
If you want we can talk via pm or I can post them here.
nagalun said:
Would you be willing to test one or two img's for me?
If you want we can talk via pm or I can post them here.
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ok i will test them but on saturday
gabi4175601 said:
ok i will test them but on saturday
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I think I know what's the issue now. Just one more test,
attached are two recoveries, both are TWRP, one is using the stock kernel that the default recovery uses and the other is my compiled kernel.
Try both and please tell me if it works or not.
Try using adb if the phone doesn't restart or the touch screen doesn't work in TWRP
Also everyone can try it, go ahead.
And another thing, I used the kernel from the recovery.img of the OP.
Edit: Look at my second post for the recoveries..
nagalun said:
I think I know what's the issue now. Just one more test,
attached are two recoveries, both are TWRP, one is using the stock kernel that the default recovery uses and the other is my compiled kernel.
Try both and please tell me if it works or not.
Try using adb if the phone doesn't restart or the touch screen doesn't work in TWRP
Also everyone can try it, go ahead.
And another thing, I used the kernel from the recovery.img of the OP.
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can i flash them with odin?
gabi4175601 said:
can i flash them with odin?
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Yes, but I derped something, recovery.fstab is from CWM.. I'll edit this post when its ready and then download it again
EDIT: flash this, twrp fstab in this one
EDIT2: nope
nagalun said:
Yes, but I derped something, recovery.fstab is from CWM.. I'll edit this post when its ready and then download it again
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ok, i will try them when you post them
gabi4175601 said:
ok, i will try them when you post them
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Just posted the recovery up there.
nagalun said:
Just posted the recovery up there.
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after flash the phone booted ok. then i have restarted in recovery mode got the same error and the phone didn't boot in nomal mode after restart had to flash the rom to recover
gabi4175601 said:
after flash the phone booted ok. then i have restarted in recovery mode got the same error and the phone didn't boot in nomal mode after restart had to flash the rom to recover
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The thing that bothers me is that the error is very generic and doesn't explain anything, it has to be something related to knox. You downloaded the one in this post, right?
nagalun said:
Yes, but I derped something, recovery.fstab is from CWM.. I'll edit this post when its ready and then download it again
EDIT: flash this, twrp fstab in this one
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nagalun said:
The thing that bothers me is that the error is very generic and doesn't explain anything, it has to be something related to knox. You downloaded the one in this post, right?
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yes i downloaded the right one, i think the knox is integrated in the recovery or in the boot.img. this is the grand prime twrp recovery forum it has the same spec only the display is different 5 inch compared to 4.5 on core prime. http://forum.xda-developers.com/grand-prime/development/share-twrp-2-8-4-0-galaxy-prime-t3064506

. bat

Hi, looking to root my device and in a tutorial it mentions running the windows. bat file?
I don't remember doing this other times I have rooted...
What is it?
How do I run it? Can I just open up cmd in the fastboot location and run it like that?
Been a while since I have rooted or flashed anything so I'm rusty.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.!
xda___ said:
Hi, looking to root my device and in a tutorial it mentions running the windows. bat file?
I don't remember doing this other times I have rooted...
What is it?
How do I run it? Can I just open up cmd in the fastboot location and run it like that?
Been a while since I have rooted or flashed anything so I'm rusty.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.!
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... actually the tutorial is for flashing Philz... I will root through recovery...
So, if anyone could give me the best advice for flashing Philz on a Huawei device, it would be all the more appreciated. There are a few tutorials but they seem to be leaving out some specifics.
xda___ said:
... actually the tutorial is for flashing Philz... I will root through recovery...
So, if anyone could give me the best advice for flashing Philz on a Huawei device, it would be all the more appreciated. There are a few tutorials but they seem to be leaving out some specifics.
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I would need your specific device model to find a proper guide.
Evolution_Tech said:
I would need your specific device model to find a proper guide.
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Huawei Ascend G7 L01
I figured I could just extract the .img to the fastboot location (as I think I have done on other devices, though not Philz recovery) and just flash from there using cmd but not sure what command to use...
I also seem to remember reading you can't or shouldn't flash recovery in fastboot?
Thanks for your help.
xda___ said:
Huawei Ascend G7 L01
I figured I could just extract the .img to the fastboot location (as I think I have done on other devices, though not Philz recovery) and just flash from there using cmd but not sure what command to use...
I also seem to remember reading you can't or shouldn't flash recovery in fastboot?
Thanks for your help.
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You absolutely can, but please be sure that recovery was built specifically for your device. The fastboot command is: fastboot flash recovery (name of) recovery.img
Evolution_Tech said:
You absolutely can, but please be sure that recovery was built specifically for your device. The fastboot command is: fastboot flash recovery (name of) recovery.img
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Thanks. Just so I know though, what is the windows.bat?
What is it for?
xda___ said:
Thanks. Just so I know though, what is the windows.bat?
What is it for?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batch_file

ze551ml boot only in fastboot mode

hi all i don't know if this is the right section, in case i'm sorry but i'm a bit desperate x.x this is my problem:
i've a ze551ml deluxe version while flashing some things (supersu,kernel ecc..) i've flashed also a file called splashscreen.img(i don't know if it's the cause of my problem) but after that my phone It starts only in fastboot mode recovery doesn't work,i've tried to flash some img files like (boot.img,recovery ecc..) but nothing it's happend, if try to flash a raw file by asus flash tool give an error while flashing "remote: not allowed to flash this partition" i don't know what to do please help me :'(
UserName_K said:
hi all i don't know if this is the right section, in case i'm sorry but i'm a bit desperate x.x this is my problem:
i've a ze551ml deluxe version while flashing some things (supersu,kernel ecc..) i've flashed also a file called splashscreen.img(i don't know if it's the cause of my problem) but after that my phone It starts only in fastboot mode recovery doesn't work,i've tried to flash some img files like (boot.img,recovery ecc..) but nothing it's happend, if try to flash a raw file by asus flash tool give an error while flashing "remote: not allowed to flash this partition" i don't know what to do please help me :'(
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Which partition has been flashed with "splashscreen.img" and whioch tool did you use for it?
LS.xD said:
Which partition has been flashed with "splashscreen.img" and whioch tool did you use for it?
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i've flashed by recovery so i don't know:crying:
there is a way for fix it? =(
UserName_K said:
i've flashed by recovery so i don't know:crying:
there is a way for fix it? =(
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Do you have a link to the file? You can't flash .img files directly by recovery...
LS.xD said:
Do you have a link to the file? You can't flash .img files directly by recovery...
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it was a mistake :crying: anyway i don't have the link for splashscreen.img but if i remember well i've download it when i've unlocked the bootloader, i can solve in some way?Even by lost all data,all solutions are good !
UserName_K said:
it was a mistake :crying: anyway i don't have the link for splashscreen.img but if i remember well i've download it when i've unlocked the bootloader, i can solve in some way?Even by lost all data,all solutions are good !
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What happens when you flash boot.img + recovery.img using fastboot? Any error messages?
LS.xD said:
What happens when you flash boot.img + recovery.img using fastboot? Any error messages?
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just try for security , both operation working fine no error
UserName_K said:
just try for security , both operation working fine no error
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And once done you can't boot stock recovery?
LS.xD said:
And once done you can't boot stock recovery?
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nope, boot always in fastboot mode
UserName_K said:
nope, boot always in fastboot mode
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Are you using the .img files from latest firmware UL-Z00A-WW-4.21.40.184-user ??
LS.xD said:
Are you using the .img files from latest firmware UL-Z00A-WW-4.21.40.184-user ??
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just tried and nothing seems changed
UserName_K said:
just tried and nothing seems changed
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Download latest TWRP
Try to boot is as followed:
fastboot boot twrp-3.0.2-0-Z00A.img
LS.xD said:
Download latest TWRP
Try to boot is as followed:
fastboot boot twrp-3.0.2-0-Z00A.img
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done but it's the same, boot in fastboot mode i'm really confused never happend something like this
UserName_K said:
done but it's the same, boot in fastboot mode i'm really confused never happend something like this
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I'm really curious what file you flashed to which partition, its awkward that you can't exactly remember what you did to make the phone beeing like this.
Just by the way: is your bootloader still unlocked?
LS.xD said:
I'm really curious what file you flashed to which partition, its awkward that you can't exactly remember what you did to make the phone beeing like this.
Just by the way: is your bootloader still unlocked?
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mmh i've follow the guide for bootloader here http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/root-newbie-root-instructions-zenfone-2-t3114063
and probably here i've get the splashscreen, when you unlock the bootloader the splashscreen become white, the file img restore the default asus's splashscreen anyway how can check the status of bootloader?
UserName_K said:
mmh i've follow the guide for bootloader here http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/root-newbie-root-instructions-zenfone-2-t3114063
and probably here i've get the splashscreen, when you unlock the bootloader the splashscreen become white, the file img restore the default asus's splashscreen anyway how can check the status of bootloader?
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I just minded that your device has a own section.
UNBRICK GUIDE
Your problem should be posted HERE
LS.xD said:
I just minded that your device has a own section.
UNBRICK GUIDE
Your problem should be posted HERE
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ok i'll try thanks

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