Hey XDA members!
I am going to Europe (Germany, France, and Spain) over a span of around two weeks.
I plan on purchasing the AT&T Passport Plus Plan (300MB Data, .50c p/m, and unlimited text), and I was wondering, when roaming, will I be able to switch between the different roaming partners:
GERMANY: T-Mobile Germany, Vodafone
FRANCE: Bouygues Telecom, Orange France, SFR France
SPAIN: Orange, Vodafone Spain, Telefonica, Yoigo
For example, what will choose if I am using TMo or Vodafone in Germany, can I choose? If I can choose, where is the setting in the G3's settings to choose this.
Thanks for your help!
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Hey XDA members!
I am going to Europe (Germany, France, and Spain) over a span of around two weeks.
I plan on purchasing the AT&T Passport Plus Plan (300MB Data, .50c p/m, and unlimited text), and I was wondering, when roaming, will I be able to switch between the different roaming partners:
GERMANY: T-Mobile Germany, Vodafone
FRANCE: Bouygues Telecom, Orange France, SFR France
SPAIN: Orange, Vodafone Spain, Telefonica, Yoigo
For example, what will choose if I am using TMo or Vodafone in Germany, can I choose? If I can choose, where is the setting in the G3's settings to choose this.
Thanks for your help!
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If your using a AT&T branded G3 on stock rom it will choose which ever is best. You won't have control over what it connects too. As well as even if you could get to network selection it will all depend on who AT&T has a roaming agreement with. But in an AT&T phone running stock rom you cannot see or change networks when there's an AT&T sim in it.
Before paying AT&T for an international plan I'd just get a local sim it would be a lot cheaper.
Sounds like an awesome trip!
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If your using a AT&T branded G3 on stock rom it will choose which ever is best. You won't have control over what it connects too. As well as even if you could get to network selection it will all depend on who AT&T has a roaming agreement with. But in an AT&T phone running stock rom you cannot see or change networks when there's an AT&T sim in it.
Before paying AT&T for an international plan I'd just get a local sim it would be a lot cheaper.
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The problem with a local sim is, I would need 4 of them, as well as to unlock my device. Keep in mind, in Europe, there isn't just one set of carriers. The carriers I posted are the ones ATT has roaming agreements with. How does it determine what's best, and how can you tell which carrier you are on?
I know the iPhone you can switch between carriers in the settings, and it will tell you which carrier you are on.
ATT's roaming plans actually arent that bad.. I'd rather pay for that than having to waste my time in several carrier stores, while on vacation.
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The problem with a local sim is, I would need 4 of them, as well as to unlock my device. Keep in mind, in Europe, there isn't just one set of carriers. The carriers I posted are the ones ATT has roaming agreements with. How does it determine what's best, and how can you tell which carrier you are on?
I know the iPhone you can switch between carriers in the settings, and it will tell you which carrier you are on.
ATT's roaming plans actually arent that bad.. I'd rather pay for that than having to waste my time in several carrier stores, while on vacation.
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That is true about the muti carriers. Orange and T-Mobile cover a good bit though but each would have roaming anyway.
iPhone with an AT&T sim in it you cannot choose a network or even view. I have an iPhone 6 at the moment.
That's what's I hate what AT&T does. Even in the USA id like to see what networks come up when I travel around. From picking up USCellular and Verizon LTE even though you cannot connect to it AT&T don't like you seeing or having control over it.
When you roam in the USA it will still show your on AT&T you have to look in settings, or run a network app to see your actually roaming. (I roamed once) outside of Nashville TN. I actually took a different root just to see haha. I'm sort of a quiet network Geek.
BUT when your outside of the U.S. It will show what network your own but you won't have control to select them.
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hyelton said:
That is true about the muti carriers. Orange and T-Mobile cover a good bit though but each would have roaming anyway.
iPhone with an AT&T sim in it you cannot choose a network or even view. I have an iPhone 6 at the moment.
That's what's I hate what AT&T does. Even in the USA id like to see what networks come up when I travel around. From picking up USCellular and Verizon LTE even though you cannot connect to it AT&T don't like you seeing or having control over it.
When you roam in the USA it will still show your on AT&T you have to look in settings, or run a network app to see your actually roaming. (I roamed once) outside of Nashville TN. I actually took a different root just to see haha. I'm sort of a quiet network Geek.
BUT when your outside of the U.S. It will show what network your own but you won't have control to select them.
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I know when I had my iPhone 4S in Spain a few years ago, I got a "Carriers" menu, which allowed me to chose from the several roaming partners.
Same in Canada.
I assume you have experience in international roaming?
SgtAce said:
I know when I had my iPhone 4S in Spain a few years ago, I got a "Carriers" menu, which allowed me to chose from the several roaming partners.
Same in Canada.
I assume you have experience in international roaming?
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I mean it might honestly show up when your outside the USA but I highly doubt it.
It's a modem/software lock that AT&T does. If your phone was unlocked and you put in say a T-Mobile USA sim in it you'd see the network selection. But not with an AT&T sim in it.
No I haven't had any experience with international roaming besides using a EE UK/Orange UK sim in the USA. But I'm just a network geek. Not as much as I used to when I had CDMA. But I still am occasionally.
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I am currently using the phone as a pure wiiFi item. I will be coming out of contract with them and do not plain to get a nother contract. I know that att has a pay as you go for $.10/min with a $15 for 100mb. Belive it or noth that is enough for me for data as I normly only us the phone for about 20 min and 10-15 mb a mounth.
What I was woundering is if I unlock the phone are there other carriers I can go to with this phone so that I can compair? Thank for any help on this.
Yes, when you unlock you can choose any carrier of your choice
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Which country are you in? You basically need to check what bands the carrier you want to switch from uses. They need to match what your infuse can use otherwise it won't work.
The phone supports: UMTS 850/1900/2100 and GSM 850/900/1800/1900. I think T-mobile runs on a different band but I don't know for sure as I live in Canada. Here in Canada you can use this phone on Rogers (the carrier that sells it), Bell, Virgin, Fido but I don't think it will work on WIND. If memory serves me correctly it might not work on T-mo, Verizon or Sprint (because Sprint and Verizon are on CDMA). If you are in the US you might want advice from someone other than me though.
It works on t mobile because mine is unlocked and my daughter has used it with her T-Mobile sim
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dman3285 said:
It works on t mobile because mine is unlocked and my daughter has used it with her T-Mobile sim
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yeah but umts bands are incompatible so you still only get 2g.
Isn't it possible to band unlock the infuse, but it requires more than the typical efforts. wasn't some group offering to do it for $50 if you send your phone to them?
Straight Talk. Uses AT&T's networks. But you have to buy a phone off of them with a sim.
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There are different types of carriers in America and there are many things scarier can,do to lock certain devices to the network. Tmobile and att are gsm carriers and have some compatibility But they use different bands. The talk works and edge works. No 3g.
Sprint and Verizon are cdma and are not compatible. However Verizon,has phones that are both gsm and cdma and can,work on att. Nextel has Sim cards but are iden. Boost is also half cdma and half iden. And begin is basically sprint.
Then there are the no contract deals like strait talk. Problem is the Sim may be locked to the phone and even if you know the phone has a Sim and is working off atts network it may not work. The strait talk thing is only known to work if you buy a $200 Nokia smartphone and many of those have Tmobile Sims that are locked to the phone. I'm not sure how to tell the tmo version from the att version without looking at the Sim itself. Strait talk seems to just buy rights to use other networks, I've seen phones at Walmart with gsm on the box and others with cdma on the box. I think they use all the major networks depending on the phone.
I also saw an ad for simple mobile. Seems promising but appears to be Tmobile
So no 3g.
In Canada almost all carriers are 100% compatible with att phones. All but one but I forgot the name. So if you're Canadian you have options.
Do not know if you know about this- New T-Mobile Monthly4G $30 Unlimited Web & Text with 100 min of talk
email delivery or purchase monthly cards at Super Walmart.
Can not post link but go to Walmart dot com and search for the card I listed above.. sorry
Consumer Cellular is an AT&T reseller - in fact AT&T phones treat their SIMs as an AT&T SIM, don't even need to unlock.
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Entropy512 said:
Consumer Cellular is an AT&T reseller - in fact AT&T phones treat their SIMs as an AT&T SIM, don't even need to unlock.
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Thanks, good to know. Might have to look into a consumer cellular Sim and an i777. I wonder if it will work with lte in the future (the Sim that is. not the phone) but I can,worry about that when my area gets lte and the next generation,phone comes out.
Just read from the Rezound subforum about it supporting global gsm/wcdma roaming.
I'm wondering if it is also possible for the Thunderbolt as the chipsets MSM 8655 and MDM 9600 both support GSM/UMTS mode.
Has anyone tried getting the Thunderbolt to work with GSM network?
Thanks.
I called Verizon about a week ago and they told me that yes the Thunderbolt would work worldwide but its VERY expensive
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NickxSfK said:
I called Verizon about a week ago and they told me that yes the Thunderbolt would work worldwide but its VERY expensive
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Did that person say in what way expensive? Roaming rate?
Or was that person talking about CDMA roaming which I know is possible in some countries.
I'm more interested in using other network SIM to work on the GSM network.
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I'm more interested in using other network SIM to work on the GSM network.
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im curious about this also. but i think the sim slot is only for 4g cards. my incredible 2 has a menu in the security settings that allows me to unlock my sim card for use with other carriers. the inc2 is advertised as a global phone though
They said my rates would be large. I think it was like 1.50 a minute for calls and 50 cents a text. So probably not GSM
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Sounds about right for most carriers. Depends on the country you travel to. When I travel international on business I kill my phone bill. Almost $1000 for two weeks in New Zealand, almost $700 for two weeks in Argentina. I forgot what I spent for a week in France, but I didn't use my phone as much there.
If you're traveling abroad, really suggest getting a go-phone or some kind of burner in-country. A lot of my colleagues get data SIMs in country at the airport for their data needs.
I also feel that thunderbolt supports GSM & Wcdma, for MSM8655 supports GSM & Wcdma
hzw1199 said:
I also feel that thunderbolt supports GSM & Wcdma, for MSM8655 supports GSM & Wcdma
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I also feel that thunderbolt supports GSM & Wcdma, for MSM8655 supports GSM & Wcdma
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Hey guys, I was in London last May with my tbolt.
Now that I think about it- I didn't try to switch the radio to a GSM radio with cyanogenmod's network switch, but I can say that there are no CDMA radio towers in and around London.
Also, if you're going to London, be prepared to hunt down wifi. You will almost always pay for it- although there are a few (from what I understand) blanketed areas that O2 has now set up in Kensington for the Olympics. Otherwise, you'll be paying companies like Boingo for hourly access. They have deals with most pubs.
Hope this helps.
I was in Europe during the holidays and had no luck. Where I was there were no CDMA towers so I got no signal. I tried switching the SIM with a Vodafone one and switching the radio to GSM and global with no luck. I had Cm7 on then.
Go get boost mobile and buy 10$ extra per month for international. Cheapest way possible. Get a crap boost mobile phone for calls and texting. Virgin mobile may have this too. I don't understand how its not more cost effective to just buy an extra per month on your current plan
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Actually the cheapest way is to pay an unlocked used Droid2, about 50 bucks some places, and use it with a prepaid sim overseas. You can have an extra phone while in the states and use the wifi teather in the EU, in addition to an android working phone, to keep the tbolt w wifi.
On top of that if you connect your normal number to a GV nr and than connect that to a SIP the phone calls cost less than 1ยข/min.
t bolt unlock
you know how can activate Tbolt to other gsm can activate that option.
Im from colombia and here dont exist cdma only gsm and my thunderbolt dont run here i don have roaming or signal to call and using a sim maked here i only can see: this sim card is from a unknown source.... Blah blah blah...
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Got my FIDO Razr HD. Rogers SIM = all is good. AT&T sim = asks for unlock code, which i buy online.
After entering code, phone appears to do a factory reset. During the reboot, a box pops up:
"SIM not allowed MM #3"
Now the phone permits "Emergency Calls Only" with the AT&T sim. Rogers SIM = still good.
When I put AT&T sim into my other phone (HTC desire) it works fine on roaming (rogers network). So I know sim + signal is fine.
Don't understand this error message.
Did I mess up the unlock?
advice appreciated, thanks.
Do you have another Canadian SIM you can try? Bell/Telus etc?
grant2 said:
Got my FIDO Razr HD. Rogers SIM = all is good. AT&T sim = asks for unlock code, which i buy online.
After entering code, phone appears to do a factory reset. During the reboot, a box pops up:
"SIM not allowed MM #3"
Now the phone permits "Emergency Calls Only" with the AT&T sim. Rogers SIM = still good.
When I put AT&T sim into my other phone (HTC desire) it works fine on roaming (rogers network). So I know sim + signal is fine.
Don't understand this error message.
Did I mess up the unlock?
advice appreciated, thanks.
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Have you inserted your fido/rogers simcard when you are in usa... and roaming (put the phone on and get the att signal)... if yes... there are no solution you must roam with rogers... imei is recorded via att and you can t use att on your razr ;( this is a strange things... but is real ... many user report this ! ( not just with the razr ) this is not a phone problem
This is a very... great problem for traveller...
grant2 said:
Got my FIDO Razr HD. Rogers SIM = all is good. AT&T sim = asks for unlock code, which i buy online.
After entering code, phone appears to do a factory reset. During the reboot, a box pops up:
"SIM not allowed MM #3"
Now the phone permits "Emergency Calls Only" with the AT&T sim. Rogers SIM = still good.
When I put AT&T sim into my other phone (HTC desire) it works fine on roaming (rogers network). So I know sim + signal is fine.
Don't understand this error message.
Did I mess up the unlock?
advice appreciated, thanks.
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I was doing some research for you, have you tried using a different SIM card from AT&T? The SIM might be corrupted.
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Really not sure...
My fathers who travel in usa and canada... have tried 2 others att simcard ... same problems ...
i have see anothers topics on howardforum
o2qc418 said:
Really not sure...
My fathers who travel in usa and canada... have tried 2 others att simcard ... same problems ...
i have see anothers topics on howardforum
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Are the SIM cards prepaid or postpaid? Did you have to cut then yourself or were they already micro sized?
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I have try with a rogers xt925 last month ... tried with different sim... micro and regular... postpaid and prepaid too... have see many people in the same boat...
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If you think AT&T are blocking your phone, then why don't you try T-Mobile...?
... Yes no problem with tmobile or others prepaid carrier on att network...
You just don t roam on att with uour rogers simcard...
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Thanks for the replies everyone. to answer the questions:
1) i don't have any other sims right now: just rogers + ATT. Next time i am w/ friends I will ask to borrow telus/bell microsim.
2) they were regular sims that were cut down.
3) haven't had a chance to visit USA since posting topic- but when i do, i will test both cards and also visit an AT&T shop to bug them about it.
Is sim corrupted? I don't think so because it works fine in HTC desire. But I guess trying a new one will prove or disprove.
imei is recorded via att and you can t use att on your razr ;( this is a strange things... but is real ... many user report this ! ( not just with the razr ) this is not a phone problem
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How do we know this is happening, has someone from AT&T discussed this before?
grant2 said:
Thanks for the replies everyone. to answer the questions:
1) i don't have any other sims right now: just rogers + ATT. Next time i am w/ friends I will ask to borrow telus/bell microsim.
2) they were regular sims that were cut down.
3) haven't had a chance to visit USA since posting topic- but when i do, i will test both cards and also visit an AT&T shop to bug them about it.
Is sim corrupted? I don't think so because it works fine in HTC desire. But I guess trying a new one will prove or disprove.
How do we know this is happening, has someone from AT&T discussed this before?
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I want to let you know that I was able to use a Bell sim card in my phone. That's what I used to unlock it with.
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grant2 said:
Thanks for the replies everyone. to answer the questions:
1) i don't have any other sims right now: just rogers + ATT. Next time i am w/ friends I will ask to borrow telus/bell microsim.
2) they were regular sims that were cut down.
3) haven't had a chance to visit USA since posting topic- but when i do, i will test both cards and also visit an AT&T shop to bug them about it.
Is sim corrupted? I don't think so because it works fine in HTC desire. But I guess trying a new one will prove or disprove.
How do we know this is happening, has someone from AT&T discussed this before?
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I am using this phone with at&t with no problems, I took my sim out from my iphone 5 and used a adapter to go to micro sim and it works fine, no issues.
I'm receiving a Fido RAZR HD to be used with AT&T this afternoon, I'll let you guys know if there are any issues.
OOI, is AT&T seen as a much better GSM network than T-Mobile in the US?
I was looking at the T-Mo USA site, and there are some amazing "Monthly4G" SIM only plans (e.g. $30/month for 100 minutes, unlimited texts and 5GB of HSPA data).
This seems much better value than AT&T, Verizon and even Sprint! But is their network sketchy compared to the others?
Sumanji said:
OOI, is AT&T seen as a much better GSM network than T-Mobile in the US?
I was looking at the T-Mo USA site, and there are some amazing "Monthly4G" SIM only plans (e.g. $30/month for 100 minutes, unlimited texts and 5GB of HSPA data).
This seems much better value than AT&T, Verizon and even Sprint! But is their network sketchy compared to the others?
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AT&T offers the second largest network coverage behind Verizon. They are also one of the two GSM carriers in the United States, and tend to be more popular with mobile phone enthusiasts because their UMTS bands are more common and used with other regions such as Canada or Australia. T-Mobile does indeed offer excellent value, but they use mainly AWS band in addition to PCS band in selected regions, thus making them the lesser choice for using unlocked phones from outside the country.
Hey,
Just looking on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility#Radio_Frequency_Summary
It looks like T-Mo mainly use 1900 for 2G and 1700 for 3G, whereas AT&T use 850 and 1900 for both 2G/3G, right?
So if I bought a Canadian Razr HD XT925 and came to the US, would I be able to use T-Mo's 3G network? I am guessing no, since it does not support 3G on 1700MHz.
But then there is a note on that Wiki page saying that they now have a roaming agreement with AT&T after the failed acquisition. So if I forced the phone into "WCDMA only" mode from the test menu, would it then fall back onto the AT&T 3G network?
Sorry for taking the thread slightly off topic
Cheers,
Su
Sumanji said:
Hey,
Just looking on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility#Radio_Frequency_Summary
It looks like T-Mo mainly use 1900 for 2G and 1700 for 3G, whereas AT&T use 850 and 1900 for both 2G/3G, right?
So if I bought a Canadian Razr HD XT925 and came to the US, would I be able to use T-Mo's 3G network? I am guessing no, since it does not support 3G on 1700MHz.
But then there is a note on that Wiki page saying that they now have a roaming agreement with AT&T after the failed acquisition. So if I forced the phone into "WCDMA only" mode from the test menu, would it then fall back onto the AT&T 3G network?
Sorry for taking the thread slightly off topic
Cheers,
Su
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As you have read, T-Mobile did acquire PCS bands from the failed merger with AT&T, but these bands are not as utilized as their 850 MHz band so it's not as widely available as you may think. Some areas might be able to use the 1900 MHz band for T-Mobile 3G, but I would check with fellow T-Mobile users to confirm first before you dive in headfirst. I know that there are T-Mobile users in the Dallas-Fort Worth area that are getting 3G data connectivity with their unlocked AT&T iPhones.
Well T-Mo do daily plays for like 2 bucks right, so I can always try this out before committing to a contract
Do you think AT&T would be the better bet if I am bringing my own device from Europe?
The reason I ask is that I may be coming to a US college for a couple of years, so naturally, I'm planning ahead to see if my phone will work over there
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Well T-Mo do daily plays for like 2 bucks right, so I can always try this out before committing to a contract
Do you think AT&T would be the better bet if I am bringing my own device from Europe?
The reason I ask is that I may be coming to a US college for a couple of years, so naturally, I'm planning ahead to see if my phone will work over there
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If you're using a device from Europe or Asia, then yes, you have a much higher chance of being able to get 3G connectivity with AT&T. Off the top of my head, Nokia seems to be the only one that tries to actively keep AWS band in their radios.
Hmm, so I did a bit of research on GSM Arena. Seems the Nexus line of devices consistently support 1700MHz 3G (including the Nexus S which I currently have).
Guess who cancelled their Nexus 4 order last week, and opted for a Canadian RAZR HD instead...
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I switched to sprint about 5 months ago and I got my s5 with a 2 year contract. We also got another line with another phone. The account is in good standing with payments on time always. Will Sprint unlock it for me so I can use it on a trip im taking overseas? I'm not sure what their policy is..and I know they do it OTA, so that means I have to be on stock rom right?
Yes stock rom. Sprint more than likely unlick. Of course you will have to mnew monthly charges. But depend sd wherr your going. If going to us territories sprint will work. Just call sptint anf see
They will usually unlock it for international roaming after having the phone on your account for 90 days.
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please note that most of the world is now based on GSM and Sprint is a CDMA based service. Once unlocked you would probably need a GSM sim card installed in order to use the S5 (this sim card can either be one from the US, a more expensive option, or a local sim wherever you are traveling to).
In Europe, especially UK, there are many cheap GSM sim operators.
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please note that most of the world is now based on GSM and Sprint is a CDMA based service. Once unlocked you would probably need a GSM sim card installed in order to use the S5 (this sim card can either be one from the US, a more expensive option, or a local sim wherever you are traveling to).
In Europe, especially UK, there are many cheap GSM sim operators.
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Yeah that's the plan for me to buy a local sim in that country so I can use the phone with a local number there. Do you know what bands the gsm works on?
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Yeah that's the plan for me to buy a local sim in that country so I can use the phone with a local number there. Do you know what bands the gsm works on?
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Depending on the country involved they use 900 and 1800 mainly but the s5 has all the bands used in Europe. Note that T Mobile is a major carrier so you should be ok with this phone if it is truly unlocked
Hi folks. So I am on t-mobile but preordered the Samsung 256gb unlocked version. This is my 1st time ordering from Samsung directly as well 1st time ordering an unlocked device. Usually I just go into the t-mobile store or their website for any new phone purchases. Samsung offered some great trade in values on our S10's and some other goodies so we went directly with Samsung.
Dumb question but will I run into any issues with tmobile and this unlocked flip 3 or is it a simple insert my tmobile sim and off I go?
Phone tentatively arrives 9/21. Thanks!
Simply insert your sim and go!
I always buy unlocked phones, and the last three in the house are on T-Mobile, juts swap sims and you good to go.
The only thing you'll miss out on from T-Mobile is if you roam in a US Cellular area. Only T-Mobile branded devices have unlimited roaming on USC.
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The only thing you'll miss out on from T-Mobile is if you roam in a US Cellular area. Only T-Mobile branded devices have unlimited roaming on USC.
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Get the SIM and IMEI whitelisted and there will be no difference at all.
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