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[Q] Would you buy it again?

Hi guys
Been thinking about buying a tablet for a long time. I have had extensive experience with the motorolla XOOM and a lenovo *forget the name*
Both were just not right.. They could not achieve what I wanted to achieve and the xoom was close but with no USB port to attach camera etc it just isnt right for my use.
I have been using android for a very long time and have thrown many custom roms on my phones etc
I plan to develop some apps, but most importantly I see the device being capable for travelling. Backing up my photos from my camera, taking movies with me for the plane etc.
A must is also the capability to browse Samba shares. I know android file manager apps have improved significantly to improve this.
As such, would you buy the device again? Has it got good developer community support as I am expecting that actual vendor support warranty is a joke like all devices.
Does the stock rom have a lot of crap on it? I currently run CM9 on my phone so i am guesing the answer will be yes. Could this potentially replace the notebook at home with the keyboard dock?
Thanks

if you would have asked me a month ago, i would have said no. But after unlocking, rooting, installing Cleanrom and overclocking, this device is a beast. I had an issue recently that made me want to get rid of it, but i came to find out it was app related. Its a great device. A lot of people have had issues with it, and a lot have it working fantastic. With whats available now, even including the new Google 10, i would recommend this device over everything available.
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timrock said:
if you would have asked me a month ago, i would have said no. But after unlocking, rooting, installing Cleanrom and overclocking, this device is a beast. I had an issue recently that made me want to get rid of it, but i came to find out it was app related. Its a great device. A lot of people have had issues with it, and a lot have it working fantastic. With whats available now, even including the new Google 10, i would recommend this device over everything available.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
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Right on!
Took 86 words right from my mouth...
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timrock said:
if you would have asked me a month ago, i would have said no. But after unlocking, rooting, installing Cleanrom and overclocking, this device is a beast. I had an issue recently that made me want to get rid of it, but i came to find out it was app related. Its a great device. A lot of people have had issues with it, and a lot have it working fantastic. With whats available now, even including the new Google 10, i would recommend this device over everything available.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
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Ditto. I've used it for movies on planes, output to a TV to watch a movie at a friend's house, and instant video review from a GoPro with the SD slot on the keyboard. Have used it to get files into flash drives via the USB as well. The keyboard also makes it perfect for RDP to my server, wherever I might be. I came from a Prime with serious antenna interference that prevented use through one wall at home, and that has not been an issue on my Infinity (though I still get a slight reduction in Wifi throughput while connected to Bluetooth). My biggest gripe until I unlocked was the interface speed, and Cleanrom made it feel like a whole new device; feels like my Galaxy Nexus.
This is my portable computer now; my trusty Thinkpad hasn't been touched since I got my Infinity.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

This device is very quick with Clean rom 2.3 and overclocked kernal. Before unlocking I was a little skeptical however once I unlocked the device has been great! If I was you I would go to best buy and buy it, test it out, then if you dont like it then return it before the 30 day warranty. Just keep it locked if you go that route. It doesnt use its full potential that way but atleast you will get a taste of this goodness. Stock Jelly Bean honestly wasnt that bad either just not as quick as Clean rom.
I also think it can replace a netbook maybe not a notebook like higher end notebook or anything. If you do a lot of game playing on a higher end notebook then its not the same however if you just browse the net then this is perfect for you and some.

Hi,
first of all: Sorry for my bad english. I come from germany.
I use this device for university, and i think i wouldn't buy it now, after using it for approx. 3 months. The stock browser is very slow. Even my Galaxy S2 with stock rom was better. Sometimes i don't believe that there's a quad core inside. It feels to slow. Pherhaps i also have to test a custom rom, but i don't want to loose guarantee.
The Infinity combinated with dock is really great to notice something very quickly. First I tried with an iPad in university and this was horrible. I sold it after 3 weeks. The Infinity is defintly better, but not what i expected to become. I hope that further Software Updates will fix this.
I don't want to be only negative: The micro HDMI is great. I used it several times. Also the possibility to plug in an usb - stick, or a micro sd card is very useful. The quality of the display is also very fine. Apps like dolphin browser, tune in radio ... are working very well. The killer feature against Apples iPad is the flash plattform.
If i have to say it in one sentence: It's to slow and has to much bugs for it's high price (in Germany it's 700€ ~ 905$)

No I wouldn't. Even with CleanROM and other tweaks, all sdcard related operations are too slow. App opening and closing animations are not smooth. Project Butter doesn't work, even on official CM10. Battery life is not good. I get max 5 hours of movie watching time. My old Xoom would give me 8-9 hours. In short, I'm not happy with the Infinity and I wish I'd have gone for Galaxy Note 10.1.

I would 100% absolutely buy the TF700 again. It's a great device, especially if you install a custom ROM (CleanROM *highly* recommended) as well as Clemsyn's OC kernel. Stock is not horrible, but CleanROM/Clemsyn combination is simply amazing. Makes the device crazy fast!
Of course, it's not a perfect device (there is no such thing), but it's by far the most versatile (keyboard dock, memory card slots, HDMI-out, etc), best looking (brushed aluminum), best performing, thinnest, lightest 10" Android tablet available right now.
The worst aspect of this tablet is the (lack of) quality control @ Asus. I would not recommend purchasing the tablet via mail order because of this. I would highly recommend that you purchase at Best Buy, so that you can exchange it if needed (in case you have a hardware issue). Best Buy has an excellent return policy.
I'd also recommend that you spend the extra $87 (with coupon) and purchase a 2-year Square Trade Accidental Coverage warranty. This way, even if you accidentally step on the device and break it, you are covered. Or, if you brick it while trying to install custom ROM's or something - you are covered. It gives you complete peace of mind for 2 years (at which point, you'll probably be upgrading again anyway).
Hope that helps you make your decision!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

no.
cleanROM + kernals and all that developer goodness is awesome, but ASUS should have gotten their product right before releasing it. build quality issues, crappy I/O, yada yada. that said, the IDEA of a tablet with these specs is awesome, and the potential was great. it's just implementation fail.
curious abt the Nexus 10. the resolution on that thing is ridiculous, wondering how the pixel-pushing is going to fare with that new SoC.

No... It's a lazy and very slow so I don't like it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDtOqCQ_I4Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Warranty invalidation for unlocking the bootloader is the only reason I wouldn't recommend it.

Yes I would, CleanRom has transformed this tablet into a beast and I have no regrets. Those kicking themselves for not getting an N10 will always be sore because technology isn't gonna stop improving just so you can feel better about your purchase. The Infinity has become my daily driver for all things related to the internet and gaming on the couch.

Yes I would, absolutely.
Sometimes, I'm thinking about the GNote 10.1, for example when I need to draw a graph on a PDF, but at the end it's very rare that I need it, my keyboard is so usefull : the battery, the keyboard itself, and to keep the tablet in a right angle in the bed, on the desk, during conferences with small places...
I had no issue with mine. Not at all, and I have locked bootloader (for now).
The best would be TF700 1080p screen with GNote 10.1 PLS technology (stylus and pressure), and Samsung multitasking-multiwindows system when it will be smooth.

I knew that it was overpriced and already outdated when I bought it, but I was too curious how it works with the dock, and the dock really makes it much more useful than a tablet alone (I had a TF101 without dock before).
1 GB RAM and the slow internal storage are not adequate for a high end tablet. And the software is very unstable and feels half-baked compared to a Linux or Windows desktop - even the Play store app crashed in the stock ROM (out of memory exception).
Do I regret that I bought it? No, money was not an issue, it is a nice toy and the screen is great. Would I buy it again? No. Let's see what 2013 brings.

aydc said:
No I wouldn't. Even with CleanROM and other tweaks, all sdcard related operations are too slow. App opening and closing animations are not smooth. Project Butter doesn't work, even on official CM10. Battery life is not good. I get max 5 hours of movie watching time. My old Xoom would give me 8-9 hours. In short, I'm not happy with the Infinity and I wish I'd have gone for Galaxy Note 10.1.
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You must have a bad one. Mine is super smooth and fast!
So my answer is YES! Knowing what I know now, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. This thing is truly a beast. I never intentionally leave any of my devices stock...custom roms and kernels give you so much more. A Square Deal warranty is pretty cheap and gives great protection, so who cares about voiding the ASUS warranty?

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As such, would you buy the device again? Has it got good developer community support as I am expecting that actual vendor support warranty is a joke like all devices.
Does the stock rom have a lot of crap on it? I currently run CM9 on my phone so i am guesing the answer will be yes. Could this potentially replace the notebook at home with the keyboard dock?
Thanks
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Yes, for sure I would.
It has Dev support and just started getting CM10 nightlies. Check out the Dev forum for more.
I think the stock ROM has some pretty useful tools. Splashtop, Asus cloud storage and even a tool for DNLA although MediaHouse is still the best for DNLA. I don't use the magazine, newspaper and book apps that came with it, but I guess they're useful for someone using them. The only real inclusion in the stock ROM that troubles some people is the stuff relating to the Asus Device Tracker, but you can search and read for more about that. I'm not worried about that given I have a SquareTrade warranty. So I'd get coverage regardless.
Yes, it can replace a notebook when you consider Splashtop. And if all you do is view media, read mail, edit a few files, browse the web and play games, yea it's all you need. If you need desktop specific applications, you can use them through Splashtop, WiFi connected desktop/laptop required .

No. You shouldn't have to root your device and install a custom OS to get decent performance out of a tablet. I am ok with it now that I have done these things, but the stock performance is unacceptable. I would definitely go with a different tablet if I had the choice.
If the stock performance had been good and custom OS's made the performance EVEN BETTER that would be ok in my book.

Hi all,
I didn't want to make yet another thread about should i buy blah blah blah.
please don't reply if you have had a sour experience with your unit as i think the reply will not be a genuine one.
I have looked at this tablet in local stores and tried some basic games and they run fine to me.
However i currently have a acer a510 1280x 800 res 1.3 tegra chip.
I have found all games from asphalt 7/6 nova 3 (even though not compatable) to run fine and smooth on my lower performance tegra tab.
My use will be gaming movies and also want the more laptop experience to respond to online questions while on the go.
Reading through the forum i see people complaining about slow fps and slow internal storage.
however the specs of the aussie version of this tab specifies ssd memory?
So my question is how do you perceive slow and this on all tabs or just some peoples. I.e. some one complaining about it being slow would get the same speed benchmark as some one who perceives it as being fine?
Also do you think it is more a optimization issue for games fps or the fact the res is just that much more? I know alot of games still have issues with tegra games and really for such a powerful company and chipset it really should get more attention than it is.
is the 1gb of ram a bottle neck?
I ask this because i have 1gb of ram on the a510 and have not had any specific issues running low on memory however i can see how a higher res "may require more ram" to run smooth.
I agree with many posts that this tablet really should be 1.5gb or 2gb of ram.
I was even surprised to see the upcoming lte model still only has 1gb of ram.
So i'm kind of stuck on if i should buy it or wait for the next gen hopefully mid next year.

Only the sometimes sluggish IO was a surprise, and not that big a deal to me. Otherwise, I knew the weaknesses when I bought it.
If 'the newest thing' is what you want, then yeah, you'll always be unhappy with what you've got. But if what you want is a little more specific and based on practicality, you can get a lot of life out of a good device, and the Infinity is a good device. I've had my TP2 for 3 years next month. I have no plans to upgrade that, and no device currently exists that I'd even consider to be an upgrade. I know what I want.

malos1984 said:
Hi all,
I didn't want to make yet another thread about should i buy blah blah blah.
please don't reply if you have had a sour experience with your unit as i think the reply will not be a genuine one.
I have looked at this tablet in local stores and tried some basic games and they run fine to me.
However i currently have a acer a510 1280x 800 res 1.3 tegra chip.
I have found all games from asphalt 7/6 nova 3 (even though not compatable) to run fine and smooth on my lower performance tegra tab.
My use will be gaming movies and also want the more laptop experience to respond to online questions while on the go.
Reading through the forum i see people complaining about slow fps and slow internal storage.
however the specs of the aussie version of this tab specifies ssd memory?
So my question is how do you perceive slow and this on all tabs or just some peoples. I.e. some one complaining about it being slow would get the same speed benchmark as some one who perceives it as being fine?
Also do you think it is more a optimization issue for games fps or the fact the res is just that much more? I know alot of games still have issues with tegra games and really for such a powerful company and chipset it really should get more attention than it is.
is the 1gb of ram a bottle neck?
I ask this because i have 1gb of ram on the a510 and have not had any specific issues running low on memory however i can see how a higher res "may require more ram" to run smooth.
I agree with many posts that this tablet really should be 1.5gb or 2gb of ram.
I was even surprised to see the upcoming lte model still only has 1gb of ram.
So i'm kind of stuck on if i should buy it or wait for the next gen hopefully mid next year.
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IMO I don't think this tablet would be the best for gaming until...when or if the Android game app market catches up to the hardware.
My wife plays the low end common games on this tab no troubles there.
I used to play Max Payne and Need for speed, those haven't been running too well lately for me.
The Tegra3 games are problematic for some and there isn't a large selection at this time.
Viewing movies in HD is fine for me...can't speak for others however.
Bottom line:
As the tablet stands now, I wouldn't invest the money to game on the Infinity if your Acer plays the intense games to your liking.
Best of luck with the tablet search.
jim

[Q] Help me pick Asus TF700 or Nexus 10

Ive read through some of the posts on here already but here is my dilemma. I do not own a tablet of any kind. Lately i have been wanting to get one for 2 reasons. Having somethhing to work on thats not a huge laptop. Note taking, apps, some games, and movies. The 2nd reason is for traveling, i want a tablet for my kids to watch movies on when we drive.
Now i starting looking into the Nexus 10, and love it, but with no expandable memory, i feel very limited getting it. Even at 32GB, - OS and formatting, i think you are only looking at around 27/27 GB of space. Considering an average movie is about 1.2 - 1.6 GB per, i wouldnt be able to put a whole lot on the nexus 10 before being maxed out.
Hence comes in the TF700, i love the fax that it has 32 GB + expandable memory, i feel very comfortable in that regard, but have read plenty of people with issues with the TF700. I also love the fact that i can get a keyboard with it as well.
My next thought it price.
A 32GB nexus 10 is 499, + tax and shipping through google im looking at around $550 out the door.
TF700, looks like i can get it through Amazon for around $470 with no tax where i live, and free shipping. So there is the cost factor that plays into my decision.
I would prefer to keep my devices fairly stock. I do own a LTE galaxy nexus and love it. I did unlock the bootloader, but i run it stock. I would prefer a OS that looks a lot like my phone but this isnt a requirement.
Any thoughts/advice/help would be appreciated.

Wait.
If you're on the fence, I would maybe wait until a couple reviews come out. The Nexus 10 would be great with kids because of Android 4.2's new muli-user functionality. With regards to the storage.. I think the 32GB should be enough for what you need. Even without a microSD. I would buy the nexus 10, but if you're really on the fence just wait until a few days after it's released to watch some good reviews. :good:

The battery life added by the dock really helps out though with kids watching movies. I'm in the same boat, although my son has motion sickness, so no reading/watching/playing for him in the car, and his sister doesn't care about doing stuff in the car (yet). They're 4 and 2, respectively.
I also find that the tablet/dock combo makes it easier to just stand the device on a tabletop or something and let them watch. Gives them something to hang onto, as well, and when snapped shut, it's also a bit more safe than a 'naked' tablet.
32 GB is probably a lot of storage, but with all my clips of the Swedish Chef, the Muppets, Sesame Street, Family Guy (for me, not for the kids), Leprechaun Plop, Bobo the Rabbit and so and so forth, I'm looking into 12 GB! That's not even adding the Smurfs in wide-screen cinema deliciousness, and all the Ice Ages and whatnot.
No, I'm perfectly happy with the 700 and all its storage options. Also, don't forget the possibility for quickie file transfers by USB stick! I managed to get the Smurfs on a USB stick while on vacation -- shame the HD TV would play from USB stick... </geek hero>

I have a 12.5 inch laptop so I never bothered to get the keyboard for the tf700. The tf700 lags horribly and is very frustrating sometimes for simple web browsing. I was just getting to point of throwing my warranty away and installing cleanROm but I'm going to just get a Nexus 10. I hate that it doesn't have microSD but I don't think I'll miss it much because the microSD performance in the TF700 is so horribly slow I barely used it.

trublu said:
I have a 12.5 inch laptop so I never bothered to get the keyboard for the tf700. The tf700 lags horribly and is very frustrating sometimes for simple web browsing. I was just getting to point of throwing my warranty away and installing cleanROm but I'm going to just get a Nexus 10. I hate that it doesn't have microSD but I don't think I'll miss it much because the microSD performance in the TF700 is so horribly slow I barely used it.
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You didn't use CleanROM, though, so you're missing out on the performance this device can and will offer had you tried it. Out of the box comparisons taken as the norm -- which arevalid on XDA only for noobs or the faint-hearted -- maybe the Nexus would provide slightly better performance. I say 'maybe' because the file I/O is as bad on the Nexus devices (tested with N7 -- reference somewhere in the forums) as it is on the entire Transformer range. I would be very hesitant to jump on the Nexus 10 bandwagon -- chances are you'll find out you've not gained anything in terms of performance, and actually lost in terms of options, including but not limited to the storage options the 700 provides.
Oh, and ermmm.... I don't know where you get the slow MicroSD performance from, because the I/O issue concerns (mainly) the INTERNAL storage -- my memory cards are as fast as they are/were in other devices I put them in. No issues whatsoever.
EDIT: Lucky, thisi s not getting easier on you, huh?

Nexus 10 is a beast especially its screen.I'm.getting nexus10
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Here's a novel idea. Research the specs on both. Look at issues raised in appropriate forums. Then pick the one that works for you.
Personally, I'm hoping you get the Nexus 10. I'd rather have people who can't make up their own mind, or do their own research, posting on another forum.

This really is a decision that can only be made by you... Besides that, it's really hard to say exactly how the Nexus 10 performs since nobody even has it yet! I mean actual users. It amazes me the number of people that are saying that the Nexus 10 is a "beast" and that it will easily outperform the TF700, etc - that is all speculation at this point. On paper, the TF700 looked like the perfect device too, but as we all know, it has issues that didn't show up in spec sheets (slow I/O, QC issues, etc).
However, if the keyboard dock and expandable storage are important to you, I'd go with the Infinity. We don't even know if the N10 will offer a keyboard dock - and if it does, we have no idea what kind of features it will have (extra battery, trackpad, USB ports, etc).
If you do go with the Infinity, I'd highly recommend the following:
- Buy it at a local Best Buy - this way, if you have any defects with the device, you can quickly and easily exchange it, without having to worry about shipping, etc...
- Get a SquareTrade warranty for it (with accidental damage coverage). For an extra $90 or so, you get 2 years of worry-free usage. It's also important for the next recommendation.
- Unlock the bootloader and install CleanROM as soon as you know that you have a defect-free TF700. With CleanROM, the device performs so much better than stock. Really, it's a must-have!
If you do the above, I think that you will be extremely happy with the TF700 and it's performance. Plus, you'll have the awesome keyboard dock and the expandability that you need.
Hope that helps!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

Thanks for all the advice guys.
We are going to be traveling for thanksgiving, so im planning on waiting until then to purchase one of these 2.
Im leaning to the nexus 10 32gb model, but well see if any specials or promotions pop up between now and then that might swing me the other direction.

Sounds like your issue is really about storage space.
I'm not up on all the Nexus 10 stuff. I'm sure it'll be a good device like the 7. Thus, I'm assuming no performance issues.
As for storage, the question is really is about how to do you plan on using your tablet. If you have a smartphone, that may help you. What kind of stuff do you store on it and how much of it. How many videos do you need to store on it versus want. So you want keep ten movies, that's about 16GB, which by your numbers, leaves 10GB for everything else. That's quite a bit storage for music and apps, unless you going to have a lot.
I think the issue is more of concern if you're going to be flashaholic or something like Boot Manager comes out for it so you can have and run mutliple roms.

If you don't want headache and working smooth and fast right out the box, get the Nexus 10. If you get the tf700 you going to have a lot of work ahead of you just to make it worth your money, even though the tf700 comes with more bells and whistles....

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If you don't want headache and working smooth and fast right out the box, get the Nexus 10. If you get the tf700 you going to have a lot of work ahead of you just to make it worth your money, even though the tf700 comes with more bells and whistles....
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How do you know this? Have you used a Nexus 10? People sure are assuming a lot about the Nexus 10! How do we know that it doesn't have the same sort of I/O issues as the TF700? How do we know that it runs smooth out of the box once you start taxing it a little?
It might be true, but I'd wait until some XDA members get their hands on it before being so quick to assume that the Nexus 10 is going to be so perfect out-of-the-box...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

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How do we know that it doesn't have the same sort of I/O issues as the TF700?
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This ^^ -- the Nexus 7 doesn't even fare that much better than the TF700, and it has a far smaller screen to power. I'm very glad with my purchase, and the Nexus 10 is not even on the radar.

im not sure why anyone hasnt mention On The Go. OTG is the ability to plug a USB memory stick into your tablet. there are actually two ways to do this. Tbe first is with an app you can buy for only a couple bucks, sorry i dont remember its name. The second is by unlocking and rooting your tablet.
i bought a nexus 7 when it first came out and knew id be traveking a lot later this year. so i roited and unlocked it. right niw i have 4 thirty-two gig sticks and 2 sixty-four gig sticks that i use with it on a regular basis.
ohh and sorry you do need an app called stickmount but its free.

slight22 said:
im not sure why anyone hasnt mention On The Go. OTG is the ability to plug a USB memory stick into your tablet. there are actually two ways to do this. Tbe first is with an app you can buy for only a couple bucks, sorry i dont remember its name. The second is by unlocking and rooting your tablet.
i bought a nexus 7 when it first came out and knew id be traveking a lot later this year. so i roited and unlocked it. right niw i have 4 thirty-two gig sticks and 2 sixty-four gig sticks that i use with it on a regular basis.
ohh and sorry you do need an app called stickmount but its free.
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Kind of sucks to have that huge thing sticking out of your nice, slim tablet though.

Godswrath said:
Kind of sucks to have that huge thing sticking out of your nice, slim tablet though.
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I bought the huge adapter thing.
I hardly ever use it...actually I plugged it in once to check for function.
Works...it's kind of a waste of money for me anyway.
One of my least necessary purchases.

Android 4.2 was released to VOSP (or whatever it's called today.) Not being an Android user yet, I have no idea how long before a ROM will be available for the TF700 that includes the user profiles function. I too would LOVE that, having 2 kids.
I think Engadget's review was a great assessment of the two devices:
"In fact, other than a relative lack of resolution (1,920 x 1,200 vs. this guy's 2,560 x 1,600) the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 is, we think, an overall better package. It's thinner, lighter, faster, has a much better camera, offers better battery life (particularly if you opt for the keyboard dock) and, frankly, we'd take the brightness and contrast of that 600 nit, Super IPS+ panel over this one with its extra pixels."
People are really obsessed with screen resolution now though, like they are with camera megapixels. Even though most content (web pages, etc.) the higher resolution poses no advantage whatsoever.

Here's a nice infographic on the two tablets. I too am trying to decide.
http://sortable.com/tablets/Google-Nexus-10-vs-Asus-Eee-Pad-Transformer-Infinity-TF700

Lurkerdownbelow said:
Here's a nice infographic on the two tablets. I too am trying to decide.
http://sortable.com/tablets/Google-Nexus-10-vs-Asus-Eee-Pad-Transformer-Infinity-TF700
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I'm also in the same boat, trying to decide between the two. I have a thread over in the Nexus 10 forum and unsurprisingly, the nexus 10 is winning the argument there with most people complaining about the lag and memory problems on the Infinity.
I'm stlil undecided though as I really liked playing around the with my brothers TF201, so the Infinity should be a step up i'd imagine.
Tough choice!!!!!!! Arrggghhhh.

Mikeparakh said:
I'm also in the same boat, trying to decide between the two. I have a thread over in the Nexus 10 forum and unsurprisingly, the nexus 10 is winning the argument there with most people complaining about the lag and memory problems on the Infinity.
I'm stlil undecided though as I really liked playing around the with my brothers TF201, so the Infinity should be a step up i'd imagine.
Tough choice!!!!!!! Arrggghhhh.
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You should read the Cleanrom thread in the development section, 2.5.2 it fly's

[Q] TF700 good for a first time android experience?

Hi All
My name is EraVulgaris and I am a NOOB to the nth degree.
I bought an Infinity about 10 days ago from BB and have been playing around with it and lurking on various boards trying to learn. Have gotten 2 OTA updates with it (build 10.4.4.23), downloaded Flash (11.1.115.27) from adobe site.
I have disabled some bloatware and still find it somewhat jerky and slow at times while remaining stock.I plan on using it for browsing, watching movies/TV, drawing and some games.
Browsers- FF Beta and Dolphin with jetpack.
So my question is before I step up and root- is this tablet a good "starter tablet"? It seems like it takes a lot of tweaking even after it has been rooted.- But what do I know lol.
I plan to stick with Android and I plan to root (I want to control some of the permissions if nothing else!) not unlock.
What tablet would you suggest to a friend who is just getting into this for the first time?
Thanks!
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EraVulgaris said:
Hi All
My name is EraVulgaris and I am a NOOB to the nth degree.
I bought an Infinity about 10 days ago from BB and have been playing around with it and lurking on various boards trying to learn. Have gotten 2 OTA updates with it (build 10.4.4.23), downloaded Flash (11.1.115.27) from adobe site.
I have disabled some bloatware and still find it somewhat jerky and slow at times while remaining stock.I plan on using it for browsing, watching movies/TV, drawing and some games.
Browsers- FF Beta and Dolphin with jetpack.
So my question is before I step up and root- is this tablet a good "starter tablet"? It seems like it takes a lot of tweaking even after it has been rooted.- But what do I know lol.
I plan to stick with Android and I plan to root (I want to control some of the permissions if nothing else!) not unlock.
What tablet would you suggest to a friend who is just getting into this for the first time?
Thanks!
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tf700 has some design issue, so if you want it to perform, you have to unlock and flash cleanrom, rooting is NOT enough to make it run well. Once it's running cleanrom/clemsyn kernel, it flies like a jet and very snappy. If you want to stay with 10" screen, the Samsung tab 2 is a good one.

buhohitr said:
tf700 has some design issue, so if you want it to perform, you have to unlock and flash cleanrom, rooting is NOT enough to make it run well. Once it's running cleanrom/clemsyn kernel, it flies like a jet and very snappy. If you want to stay with 10" screen, the Samsung tab 2 is a good one.
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So rooting alone isn't enough? I didn't realize. I'll have to take a look around these boards. and see what problems remain after root.
I looked at the Samsung Note, but the Infinity screen won me over. The Infinity sound is crappy. Improved a little when I downloaded Volume+.
Is the Tab better than the Note? I am looking at the Nexus 10.

EraVulgaris said:
So rooting alone isn't enough? I didn't realize. I'll have to take a look around these boards. and see what problems remain after root.
I looked at the Samsung Note, but the Infinity screen won me over. The Infinity sound is crappy. Improved a little when I downloaded Volume+.
Is the Tab better than the Note? I am looking at the Nexus 10.
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Nexus10 is a very good device, it won over the Samsung tab on everything, the only draw back for the Nexus is none removable sdcard. Beside this, Nexus10 is a clear winner for 10" tablet. Back to the infinity, it's probably is best fully loaded features tablet on the market, like keyboard dock with build-in battery, dual external sdcard, super high res screen, quad core cpu. The only draw back is it runs like ****, but if you unlocked and flash cleanrom/clemsyn kernel, it's the best overall device.

buhohitr says some good words!
I kind of think the TF700T for most may be somewhat frustrating.
A great tablet, yet it really is best for those that can wait for true FHD apps, or the persistent custom ROM types.
Not trying to sway any one away from the Infinity just be prepared to become a tweak monster with the Infinity.
One might say it was a bit ahead of it's time...

Thats OK said:
buhohitr says some good words!
I kind of think the TF700T for most may be somewhat frustrating.
A great tablet, yet it really is best for those that can wait for true FHD apps, or the persistent custom ROM types.
Not trying to sway any one away from the Infinity just be prepared to become a tweak monster with the Infinity.
One might say it was a bit ahead of it's time...
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Yes, everyone has been really helpful with the feedback (I used the button and didn't say it!) .
I'm afraid I really would become a tweak monster what with my learning curve and my drill down personality once I commit.
Haven't even seen an N10. I guess I will factory reset the Infinity and head over to BB. Then call around to Staples and Walmart.
*Sigh* the Infinity sure is purty though!

It was my first Android and I'm perfectly happy with it..... And I use it a lot.

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It was my first Android and I'm perfectly happy with it..... And I use it a lot.
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Same here.
I am unrooted and unlocked running .23 and I see only a few issues.
The one thing I found increased speed is getting rid of the bloatware.
My Thinkpad laptop went dead after 10 years and I decided to go the tablet route.
After using this thing for a few months I am glad I bought the Infinity.

If you're not concerned about having extra storage or the extra feature of the asus keyboard you're better off with the nexus 10. For one you don't need to tweak it and its fastest and smoothest tablet I've come across in stock form and you don't have to worry about breaking warranty. And its more future proof right now and to me has better game support than the tf700.
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aznmode said:
If you're not concerned about having extra storage or the extra feature of the asus keyboard you're better off with the nexus 10. For one you don't need to tweak it and its fastest and smoothest tablet I've come across in stock form and you don't have to worry about breaking warranty. And its more future proof right now and to me has better game support than the tf700.
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Agreed. I find it much easier and smoother for a noob.

The Nexus 10 Smoother, maybe. More useful? Ah, not particularly. The lack of a MicroSD slot makes it rather pointless if you want to do more than browse a bit. I'll take a slightly slower tab over a fast one if it means I can use my (two!) 32GB MicroSD cards. I have a lot of music and films (ranging from 400mb to 18gb), as well as navigational maps for 6 countries a 500-2gb a piece. And my portfolio showcase, and my designing and documenting.
And no, a usb drive is not a proper alternative solution. That's an addition on the TF700. On the N10, it's the only option, and i'm not having a 1TB external harddrive dangling in the air or balancing on my knee whilst using it. Now I can put it on the keyboard.
None of my films and music are on my tab itself, yet it is still nearly full. I USE my tab, not merely have it as a fancy sidegadget.
And of course the rather inconvenient fact that the Nexus 10 isn't for sale in the Netherlands. Nor in Belgium. Which pretty much doesn't make it an option for me anyway.

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The Nexus 10 Smoother, maybe. More useful? Ah, not particularly. The lack of a MicroSD slot makes it rather pointless if you want to do more than browse a bit. I'll take a slightly slower tab over a fast one if it means I can use my (two!) 32GB MicroSD cards. I have a lot of music and films (ranging from 400mb to 18gb), as well as navigational maps for 6 countries a 500-2gb a piece. And my portfolio showcase, and my designing and documenting.
And no, a usb drive is not a proper alternative solution. That's an addition on the TF700. On the N10, it's the only option, and i'm not having a 1TB external harddrive dangling in the air or balancing on my knee whilst using it. Now I can put it on the keyboard.
None of my films and music are on my tab itself, yet it is still nearly full. I USE my tab, not merely have it as a fancy sidegadget.
And of course the rather inconvenient fact that the Nexus 10 isn't for sale in the Netherlands. Nor in Belgium. Which pretty much doesn't make it an option for me anyway.
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Lol, my sentiments exactly.
I now have dual 64 GB UHS-1 micro SDCards installed - one in the micro slot and one using the micro --> SD adapter in the SD Slot on the dock.
I will never buy a device that I cannot add storage to.
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[Q] Are you still liking your tf700?

Hello. I was thinking about picking up a tf700 but i wanted to know how its running today. IS it still quick? Do you still like it? Do you recommend it? it seems like a steal right now considering it only cost 199 on eBay brand new. The other option is the nexus 10 but the screen is not that much better, no sd support,and similiar antutu scores seem to make to make the transformer the better option. So what do you guys think. thanks for the response!!

At this point stock feels basically unusable. The good news is that there are some wicked cool ROMs that take care of those problems. If you're OK flashing ROMs then this could be a great bargain buy (especially if you can get the keyboard cheap too). The speakers aren't great but other than that it handles everything I've asked of it.
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I would say a Nexus 10 is still the better option, unless you really like the keyboard dock and really need expandable storage. Custom ROMs can make the tf700 perform better, but in no way can it rectify hardware problem (really slow internal storage). I am sure a Nexus 10 on custom ROM can easily outperform any tf700 on custom ROM. ASUS is no longer supporting the tf700 with regards to software updates (still stuck with Android 4.2.1) while the Nexus 10 is rocking the latest version of Android (4.4.3).

Thanks for the replies. i will probably go with the tf700. Another question though is the internal storage really that slow.

The internal memory is proven slow. As others will say, if you unlock it and go with custom rom's, then things improve. How do you handle lag in your devices? If you are someone who stresses over apps taking a bit longer to open, some jutters moving around the windows, etc, then this is not the device for you if you are unwilling to unlock and install other software.
At $199, I'd buy it. To me it's a better investiment than some of the new tablets sold at this price range. With the keyboard dock this has replaced my laptop. I use Splashtop THD version to remote into my computer for anything that requires a pc. This version works on Tegra chips and doesn't charge you a monthly fee to remote into the pc if the devices are not on the same network. I use it through my work wifi and tethered to my phone with no problems.

tecb0yjoy said:
Thanks for the replies. i will probably go with the tf700. Another question though is the internal storage really that slow.
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If you can afford more than $200 for a tablet, you can get a better and newer device... However, for $200 brand new tf700, it is better than most of devices out there with that price range...
Yes, it is slow but it is usable on light loads or basic usages. You may want to use custom ROM to speed the device up... Make sure that you can unluck it, Good luck....:fingers-crossed:

thanks for the help everyone. i will probably root and unlock as you guys say i just usually like running my devices for stock for as long as possible. but no problem.

I still love mine (in fact I have 2 at the moment - one on stock and one on Cromi-X 5.4 F2FS).
200 for a new one?? In the UK a used 32Gig one would cost around £230, a 64Gig one goes for £600 new £360 used (these include the keyboards).
I've set the 64gig one up on Cromi-X 5.4, using F2FS, but kept all other tweaks to the minimum. got a 128GB SD in the dock mounted as NTFS and a 64GB micro SD formatted in standard FAT32.
Hardly notice any stutter or drag tbh.
Would I go with a different tablet? I dont think so as I love the ability to use the keyboard dock, the one that could tempt me at the moment would be the Z2, but not for the price they go for or the Samsung Tablet S (once it is out but again I reckon it is going to be £££££££)

I hate mine. CROMi-X has helped a lot, but it still has a half-life of about three days before I have to wipe caches again. Sorry, I get impatient waiting for it to wake up. WiFi is horribly slow on it also.
The plus side is it has taught me that I don't actually need a tablet. I had dreams of streamlining at work with it, but the spiral notebook seems to work well enough (starts up instantly, no lag, etc. but search capability could use work).
Nowadays I basically only use it for ebooks, a handful of games, and YouTube when the WiFi interface feels like working. If I need to do any quick web lookups and am not near a desktop I just use my phone.
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ROMs and replacement

Hi guys,
I'm still my ol'good Asus TF-700. I have installed a long time ago the zombi-pop 5.1 rom.
The tablet is running quite fine but despite having everything on sdcard, some lags remain.
I saw that newer ROMs based on MM or Nougat do not support SDCard installation anymore.
So, will those ROMs give me better performance anyway ? Or Zombi-pop is still the best I can have.
I'm wondering if my lags are not due to F2FS not supportying TRIM...I may go back to ext4, don't know...
On another side, i'm considering changing my tablet. But I really apperciate the keyboard dock with battery and 10" screen.
I know Google Pixel C but it's very expensive.
Any other tablet you can suggest that will fit my needs ?
Regards.

It wasnt too hard to change up the ROM. I flashed the katkiss ROM yesterday.
I was thinking about changing over to a surface pro but not sure yet...

Chuwi makes several tabs that are dual OS Windows/Android RemixOS. A friend of mine bought one and likes it but I don't know how good they really are. But it is interesting....
http://en.chuwi.com/tablet.html

Im running KatKiss nougat and have been on a never ending quest for the best performance. I suggest running Nougat. Putting and keeping the CPU speed at 1.4mhz and using ZRAM on boot. That seems to make it quite snappy and good on battery life. My main use is to use Microsoft Word at work and watch Podcasts and Netflix. Generally that is enough for me. Word is a BEAST and seems to take a toll on memory etc. I suggest keeping the sync and autosave functions off and keep the files on the local drive and sync them later into the google drive.

I may be a little late to the thread but I recently replaced my TF700 with a Samsung Chromebook Plus and its just great.
Chromebooks now run Android apps (well some of them do) and this device has a 2400x1600 display, keyboard, touchpad, touch-screen, pressure sensitive stylus and a microSD slot.
Overall this thing is awesome, so much better performance than the TF700.
There are a few minor negatives. No way to get root access or install custom ROMs (but you can install linux), and Android apps don't yet have access to the SDcard (but should in a few versions).
Currently you can open files read-only from the Chrome files app and choose an Android app to run them in.
I don't really miss root access much and the frequent updates to Chromebooks (for at least 5 years) lessens my desire for custom ROMs.
I recommend taking a look at a few Chromebooks if you are still looking for a new device, they are a much cheaper option than many of the Android tablets that are around.

Hi. Sorry this is not the original intention of the thread.
I just picked up a TF700 for light use. Maybe take to class for note taking or just bring with me when I don't feel like toting my laptop. Anyways I just wanted to find out from you guys what you recommend software-wise for maximum usability. Will I see a significant increase in speed if I install a custom ROM? It currently just has the stock 4.2.1. A few years ago I used a TF300t and a fancy stylus for note taking, but Inot longer have either. I didn't have the keyboard for it, so this seems like it will be more useful.

Pr.TOSHIBA said:
Hi. Sorry this is not the original intention of the thread.
I just picked up a TF700 for light use. Maybe take to class for note taking or just bring with me when I don't feel like toting my laptop. Anyways I just wanted to find out from you guys what you recommend software-wise for maximum usability. Will I see a significant increase in speed if I install a custom ROM? It currently just has the stock 4.2.1. A few years ago I used a TF300t and a fancy stylus for note taking, but Inot longer have either. I didn't have the keyboard for it, so this seems like it will be more useful.
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The only active development of ROM for TF700 and likely better than anything out there is on this thread. As you're on android 4 you probably have some maintenance to do to get from there to the latest version V24 7.1.2 your bootloader is probably older for starters.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/transformer-tf700/development/rom-t3457417