[Discussion] Waterproof phones without port covers? - General Questions and Answers

This is an interesting one. How a phone can be waterproof without covers, for example Samsung Galaxy S5 Mini and Sony Xperia M4 Aqua. I think there are no more waterproof phones like this (without cover). I also think that it's nicer, you don't have to open covers every time you need to charge phone or even thinking about that port would get loose/damaged over time (some xperias are saved from that because magnetic charging ability). What do you people think about all this?

I would not want a "waterproof" without a case phone, as this would be sealed with no access ports of any kind, not earphone jacks and not SD or SIM card slots, as any port covers will over time weaken/break, if humans are to be relied on to seal them, making it no longer waterproof.
Apps, who really cares, since they are not the phone.
Touch screen with the option of having a physical keyboard for those that want or need them, even if the keyboard has to be part of a case and Bluetooth.
Universal standard charging port placement, so that third party cradle makers can make adjustable charging cradles that will fit more phones.
EXTERNAL charging connectors for cradles that can fit a wide range of cases that would also have external charging connectors. This would help in reducing the number of phones that have charging ports that die.
Physical layout of the phone will always be a personal choice based on what is out there. If screen or phone size gets too big, the marketplace will let the makers know that as soon as those phone does not sell, no matter how great the phone is. No one will hold a 7 inch tablet sized phone up to there ear to make phone calls (often).

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Bunch of Trinity accessories (and a Trinity) for sale. :)

So, my dad used to use the Trinity as his everyday work phone, until he saw my Nexus One. Now that he's got the N1, all the accessories he had are incompatible, and need to be sold!
FOR SALE:
One HTC P3600 PRO (Trinity) in black.
The phone is certainly in a used state. It's not broken or anything; everything functional on the phone still works, but the case shows obvious wear from going in/out of the car dock constantly. Bundled with the phone are the user manual, the "Getting Started" disk (CD is unopened), and all assorted documentation (if you want it.), the European-style wall charger (with U.S. adapter), and the original MiniUSB-StandardUSB cable. Spare battery for an extra $10 or something.
Paserro charger/dock.
This device will charge your phone (only if it's the Trinity), connect it to the computer, and charge a spare battery, all at the same time. It's a nice dock that holds the phone upright and securely.
MiniUSB Car Charger
Belt Case from HTC
This case was designed for the Trinity and is made by HTC themselves, so you know you're getting only the best. It's used, but there's nothing wrong with it.
ProclipUSA Car Dock
This car dock is absolutely the best available, hands down. You can find it on the manufactures website here. This is, besides the phone, easily the coolest thing in the lot. Their docks are a two part system (This is ONLY the device specific part. You need a vehicle specific part from their website!!!) that allows you to mount your device to your car seamlessly. This is Proclips highest grade car dock, with an integrated charger that can be wired behind the panels of your car so there are no exposed wires. It is practically invisible when you get it set up properly.
I'd like to sell this pretty much as one lot. If you want an individual item, we'll work something out. Please, don't post bids here. PM me with your offers, or email me for super-fast reply.
Thanks for reading!
Soooo, yeah.
BUMP.
'cause this is still for sale.

[Q] if tf2 comes out soon, would you buy it?

Tf2 is rumored to release soon,
Will you upgrade?
If not what kind of price spec / dimension, thickness of the new tf would make you do it?
To me if they keep the same price, better camera, better speaker, as thin as galaxy tab 10.1 then SOLD
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i probably wouldn't, the next tablet i want to get would be a win8 tablet, not sure if i want an arm or x86 processor yet...
so, a TF2 that runs win8 would be something i would consider.
BUT, if i could sell my TF and get a TF2 for like ~$100 i would probably bite, ICS would have to be something FAR more cohesive and polished though.
only if they make a TF2 that supports the current docking.
I paid $170 for the docking, tax+shipping.
No way I would buy another Transformer if they make a new docking for every upgrade.
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only if they make a TF2 that supports the current docking.
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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that they already announced it would be compatible with the existing dock...which suggests it will have the same thickness as the current model in order to fit in the slot...or it will have a "bulge" in the back if it needs to be thicker to accommodate the new tech.
I've recently aquired a TF101-B1/32GB model as an upgrade/replacement to my 1015PE EeePC. Software wise the only stuff I could aim for improvements, can be done with OTA updates or ROMs. Hardware wise, unless the battery life goes up to like 4x, what improvements we can expect in terms of CPU/RAM/Storage are just not worth it to me.
So I'm sticking with my Andrea
My TF1 now is enough for me .
i would upgrade. Win 8 is going to support Kal El chipset. ICS + Win8 + awesome hardware? Yes please. The trusty TF will go to my wife and get her off my equipment
I will probably not upgrade. I love my TF, and the only thing I would want would be a dual boot with win8, so IF it supports the current dock, AND it gets a dual win8 boot then I would consider it. Otherwise I will probably wait for the next chipset and skip the kal-el.
ExploreMN said:
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that they already announced it would be compatible with the existing dock...which suggests it will have the same thickness as the current model in order to fit in the slot...or it will have a "bulge" in the back if it needs to be thicker to accommodate the new tech.
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I am thinking they might come out with an adaptor,
but rumors are the TF2 is thinner/lighter than Ipad2.
Only if it had at least several of the following changes:
* Significantly faster while retaining similar battery life -or- similar speed with a significant improvement in battery life
* Equal or better screen with less glossy finish
* A better microphone and (less important to me) speakers
* FM radio receiver (it's already in the current chipset, just not enabled and I'm guessing not the correct antenna type to support it)
* Faster GPS lock, since Android seems to have to start over from scratch on the GPS lock every time you leave the GPS-aware app and reenter
* Better wi-fi range / less dropouts
* Support for dual-boot to some other more fully-featured OS (Windows, Linux, whatever)
Thinner is utterly unimportant to me. I wouldn't want to have to buy my dock all over again (well, I have two tablets and two docks, so twice all over again). I don't see them making an adapter as it'd be too kludgy, so the only way it'll be thinner is if it has an unsightly bulge for the dock, or requires an entirely new dock. Size and weight are already near-perfect for me.
I will in the interim, but looking forward to W8.
I believe the dock can be modified easily for a thinner tab. If you've ever looked at your dock, you'll notice the hinge is attached with screws, making switching to another hinge adapter very easy.
EMINENT1 said:
I will in the interim, but looking forward to W8.
I believe the dock can be modified easily for a thinner tab. If you've ever looked at your dock, you'll notice the hinge is attached with screws, making switching to another hinge adapter very easy.
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There is absolutely zero chance they're going to put out an adapter that requires customers to dissassemble the existing hinge section, even just by removing four screws. If there's an adapter of any kind, it will sit inside the existing hinge assembly.
That said, I would happily place a bet that there will be no such adapter at all. If Asus had intended to accomodate slimmer tablets with the same dock, they've have provisioned an adapter with some kind of easily-removable docking plate in the first place.
My guess is either the followup will be the same thickness, or it'll be incompatible with the existing accessories. (And given that other than the dock, basically none of the promised accessories are available even this long after launch, I'm tending towards the latter.)
Asus has so far failed to build up the ecosystem that Transformer owners were led to believe was on the way, and that suggests to me that they've pushed delivery of that ecosystem back to their second-gen product, if at all. The only reason to do that is if it's no longer compatible with the first generation.
Also, note that while you can remove the inner trim piece by removing four screws (and perhaps the two star-shaped screws in the outside of the hinge, although I'm guessing those mate into the combined latch mechanism / tablet jack assembly), this doesn't remove the hinge itself. Its outer dimensions are still dictated by the thickness of the current tablet. Hence, even if they offered an adapter of some kind, it would leave a large, unsightly bulge on the back of a thinner tablet when docked. (All of the slack has to be taken up behind the tablet, because the tablet itself has to be flush with the dock when closed, meaning that any reduction in thickness of the tablet will leave the hinge mechanism standing proud of the tablet's back surface by the same amount, beyond what it already does with the existing tablet.)
Sorry. With the newer Transformers locked down I have to believe the next gen will be as well. As much as I like my TF, I will be switching to a more open manufacturer. I'm not paying $500+ to be locked out of my own device.
Add another vote for Windows 8 instead. My TF1 will continue to do work as a dev test platform for Android.
Everything I do works just fine on my current TF. Unless there are things that the TF2 does that my current one cant, and it were things I would do, then yeah I would buy the TF2.
But if not, then I will keep my TF until it stops doing what I want it to do..
I'd buy it only with an unlocked bootloader. A stock machine is 50% useless.
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There is absolutely zero chance they're going to put out an adapter that requires customers to dissassemble the existing hinge section, even just by removing four screws. If there's an adapter of any kind, it will sit inside the existing hinge assembly.
That said, I would happily place a bet that there will be no such adapter at all. If Asus had intended to accomodate slimmer tablets with the same dock, they've have provisioned an adapter with some kind of easily-removable docking plate in the first place.
My guess is either the followup will be the same thickness, or it'll be incompatible with the existing accessories. (And given that other than the dock, basically none of the promised accessories are available even this long after launch, I'm tending towards the latter.)
Asus has so far failed to build up the ecosystem that Transformer owners were led to believe was on the way, and that suggests to me that they've pushed delivery of that ecosystem back to their second-gen product, if at all. The only reason to do that is if it's no longer compatible with the first generation.
Also, note that while you can remove the inner trim piece by removing four screws (and perhaps the two star-shaped screws in the outside of the hinge, although I'm guessing those mate into the combined latch mechanism / tablet jack assembly), this doesn't remove the hinge itself. Its outer dimensions are still dictated by the thickness of the current tablet. Hence, even if they offered an adapter of some kind, it would leave a large, unsightly bulge on the back of a thinner tablet when docked. (All of the slack has to be taken up behind the tablet, because the tablet itself has to be flush with the dock when closed, meaning that any reduction in thickness of the tablet will leave the hinge mechanism standing proud of the tablet's back surface by the same amount, beyond what it already does with the existing tablet.)
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Lol! Such a long winded post. I merely stated how easy it is to take off the back part of the hinge and you're making it sound as impossible as time travel. 2 screws, and replace. Done.
Now, whether they choose this easy route, make the tab the same thickness (at least at the bottom) or go with a **** move by renigging on what they said about being compatible, is anyone's guess and pure speculation right now.
The fact is, I don't really care. I don't mind jumping ship if they don't make it compatible. I'm looking forward to the next greatest thing with W8.
Definitely planning to acquire TF2 with Android as a first tablet. No Microsoft [email protected] aka Windows8 for me plus it's immature and won't be ready until later in 2012.
Ill buy it porbably after 5 to6 months after release as i did it with the tf 1.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
kal-el seems to be over hyped :/ and now we get other quad's from qualcomm etc might as well wait and after the smoke clears re evaluate our options :/ prices will drop and specs will rise eventually

An awesome case for the Surface Pro

So if any of you guys out there are like me, you're digging the surface pro, but not digging it's limited storage and lack of usb ports.
Well i found a case that adresses both problems, but it's not quite finished yet.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1759031369/prokase-a-professional-case-for-the-microsoft-surf
It adds 1 usb port for a total of 2 usable usb ports, and adds 2 micro-SD/SD card slots, which allows you to quite literally triple the space of your surface pro.
Check it out, I think it's a good idea, without being too big (3/8ths of an inch) but the biggest problem with the kickstarter campaign is publicity.
its certainly interesting, I will give them that.
But that USB cable is just awful, literally it took me 2 seconds to think up a viable alternative which would have been far slimmer.
It also makes what is already on the bulky end of the tablet scale even bulkier.
That just looks horribly bulky, imo. With all the thickness that that's adding you're approaching a laptop's thickness on the tablet, not to mention it looks like it takes a good 20 or 30 seconds to open up and set up.
And that USB cable, disgusting. They should just put a retractable flat cable (Like this one) with a small usb connector on one end, they could probably get it to be almost flush with the tablet.
I was thinking flat cable into a right angled usb connector, a very slim one. You don't need to have the full metal plug around the outside of a USB, a piece of PCB would do. That could be almost flush with the tablet then.
I have looked at this thing 3 times now and I keep thinking to myself that if somebody is going to expect me to add this much bulk for functionality, then it better double my battery life...but this doesn't seem to have an extended battery, so what is the purpose? Why not just make a desktop dock with similar functions?
No chance its going to make its funding requirement by the deadline.

[Review] Zerolemon Battery Case v2.0

Introduction
With every Android device, accessory availability is one of my biggest concerns. Having been with the Nexus and HTC lines for a long time, this was an intimate, but expected pain. That’s why when I saw Zerolemon put out an extended battery case for the 6P, I was both excited and amused. The thought of adding 8,000+mah of battery to a 5.7” device with such a large footprint due to the front facing speakers was going to be a disaster. But Zerolemon did it, and in what I believe is the most elegant way possible. Sturdy tpu, and clever cutouts for the camera, fingerprint sensor, and ports. Enough intro, let's dive into what’s happening with Version 2.0 of Zerolemon’s Nexus 6P battery case.
This review is going to be mostly a response to the famous AndroidPolice article that infamously bashed this case, and rightly so! You can view that here.
While I didn’t get to test the first version, there’s a reason (or many) they pulled it, and while correcting the fatal camera issue, they fixed a few more. It’s baffling that they released the original case so late in the 6P’s lifetime, and Version 2 just leaves me scratching my head (but admittedly grateful).
Quick Gallery Here
The good stuff:
Capacity: With 8,500mAh of juice, this case will keep your Nexus 6P ticking for almost 2.5 times as long. I don’t know why people say almost three, but let's break it down. 8500/3450= 2.463768. We’ll round that to 2.46, and then generously bump that up to 2.5. What’s the big deal? Like 7100mah, which is larger than the battery in an iPhone 6s. Yikes. Regardless, this case is going to be great for travelling, being out and about all day and night, and or a camping trip.
Protection: The multi-layer design offers ample plastic/TPU(in fairly large quantities) to protect your device. There is a front lip (insert picture), that should have the surface area and depth to save your phone from drops.
LED charge indicators: Four LEDs on the back of the case show the current battery level. A pretty standard feature, but useful nonetheless.
The Not So Good Stuff:
Weight: A naked 6P, without a screen protector or case, weighs 179 grams. The combined weight of the ZeroLemon case and the phone itself pushes that up to about 430 grams, which is more than twice as heavy! When a phone weighs nearly a pound, it makes it cumbersome and tiring to hold or use for long periods of time, and that’s definitely at play here.
Bulk: I’m going to heavily borrow some stats here, but here we go. Putting this case on your phone makes it ridiculously large. So large you’ll not want to carry it around, and it will definitely draw looks. It adds 23mm to the length of the phone, 10mm to its width and 14mm the thickness. It triples the thickness of the phone, destroying every design and engineering feat of the phone.
You’ll be using this thing with two hands at all times, and probably be wishing you had a third to help balance this thing.
Here’s where things really start to differ though. Remember those improvements I was talking about at the beginning of this article?
Charging speed: ~~Neither the input or output of the battery pack supports any sort of quick charging. Charging the case, and charging the phone with the case, is slow. It takes several hours to charge the case from empty, so you better not forget to plug it in overnight, because you aren't going to add much juice to it during your 30 minute commute to work.~~ Both the input and output of the device support quick charging over USB C! Admittedly charging both the case and phone from empty will take 7-8 hours, but you can definitely plug it in and top up in thirty minutes.
Camera issues: We've already established that the rear of the ZeroLemon case is thick.~~ In order to accommodate the camera, a deep canal cuts through the back of the case, exposing the lens, LED flash and other sensors. However, the canal is not quite wide enough, leading to an unintentional vignette on the left side of all pictures and video. The shiny plastic on the sides of the cutaway also reflects light, which adds further artifacts to images. As a photography enthusiast, this drives me absolutely insane. How did no one notice this when the product was tested!?!~~ This was the reason the case was discontinued for a bit, and I’m happy to report there are no camera issues here! Snap away on that weekend camping trip
Unfortunately the fingerprint reader problems are still very much an issue. Unless you initially trained your phone to recognize your finger tip, you will have to go into your settings and re add your fingers, or repeatedly press them to the sensor in hopes it trains them on that part of your finger (unsuccessful for me).
NFC is no longer blocked! I can confirm it does in fact work now. Android Pay your way to the future!
Assembly: It is a tad confusing, but basically you slide your phone down onto the brick part, place the plastic ring on top of your device and the battery pack, and then slip that into the TPU part. Not super easy, but you should get the hang of it without too much trouble.
Build Quality: The plastic ring looks and feels cheap; I’d definitely handle it with care. The TPU part does very much have those injection molding nibs, but their placement makes them unnoticeable unless you're searching for them. The TPU feels sturdy, and I haven’t noticed any flexing or creaking. The cutout around the headphone jack can hinder the use of certain cables though, due to its shape.
Conclusion:
One day I was going about my business. Using my phone from 7am 6pm. Then I spontaneously agreed to go to a concert. I was tired, but I made it through! My Nexus 6P did not. That night I started looking for a battery case for my 6P, and saw the Android Police review of it. I was willing to even accept the camera issues! I followed the Amazon link, and saw it was discontinued. I then found out why, and heard they would be releasing a newer, tweaked version. So I held out.
My patience rewarded me with a gigantic, but significantly less flawed case than I had anticipated. I can slap this case on and not have to be near a charger for 3-4 days, but make no mistake- I swap to my TechArmor bumper otherwise.
No more NFC blockage, camera artifacts, and the addition of quick charging make this case a buy for anyone who might find themselves in a situation where they’re using their phone excessively, or in a remote area (me). Or people who dislike external battery packs (also me). The only showstopper: the $60 price tag. You be the judge, but I don’t think it’ll disappoint!
Thank you to Lemonzero for providing me with a review unit, and readers can use the coupon code RGSQJDX8 to get a USB C charging station with four UBS ports for just $19.99!
Please feel free to ask questions if you have any!
Does this have a built in screen protector?
Pandawg said:
Does this have a built in screen protector?
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No
MyNarwhalBacon said:
No
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Thanks. I hated the screen protector that came with my Note 3 Zerolemon case.
Got mine two days ago. It is very big, but that is expected. I was wondering if you could use the USB C port for data on the case. I wanted to buy a USB C flash drive and load it with songs, movies, and TV shows for an upcoming airplane trip, and was wondering if it was possible to use the USB C port on the device for the flash drive, and still have it charge the device too. I would test it myself, but I don't have a USB C flash drive, and don't want to buy one unless this works.
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Got mine two days ago. It is very big, but that is expected. I was wondering if you could use the USB C port for data on the case. I wanted to buy a USB C flash drive and load it with songs, movies, and TV shows for an upcoming airplane trip, and was wondering if it was possible to use the USB C port on the device for the flash drive, and still have it charge the device too. I would test it myself, but I don't have a USB C flash drive, and don't want to buy one unless this works.
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Using the USB to USB C adapter that came with my note 7, and using a sandisk flash drive with it, it does NOT work. I put the drive in the adapter and adapter directly to the 6p, it recognized, formated it, and transferred a file to the drive. Then I put the case on, then, inserted the drive, and nothing. Turned the case on to charge, reinsert the drive, nothing. So in my testing, no, it doesn't work. I have no reason to believe a specific usb C flash drive would be any different
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Using the USB to USB C adapter that came with my note 7, and using a sandisk flash drive with it, it does NOT work. I put the drive in the adapter and adapter directly to the 6p, it recognized, formated it, and transferred a file to the drive. Then I put the case on, then, inserted the drive, and nothing. Turned the case on to charge, reinsert the drive, nothing. So in my testing, no, it doesn't work. I have no reason to believe a specific usb C flash drive would be any different
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Chances are the connector only has the power pins connected, with no data pins actually connected.
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Chances are the connector only has the power pins connected, with no data pins actually connected.
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I can confirm as much with different drives and also using different usb settings in dev. options no luck with data transfer.
1 Now my case unicorn beetle , love big phones
2 I use my phone with two hands, no problem
Want use this case as daily case. Possible ? Worth ?
Any one in Canada or Toronto selling their zerolemon battery please let me know. Thanks
Me too, but im from europe (Lithuania) want buy it, pm me.
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Any one in Canada or Toronto selling their zerolemon battery please let me know. Thanks
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you can order right from there web site

Best Non Smart Phone With USB C?

Its about time to replace my Samsung Alias 2. One of it's biggest faults is the proprietary charging port, although I must give it credit for surviving this long.
Im looking for a "dumb" phone to replace it. My only true requirement is that it works on Verizon, but my primary wish after that is a USB type C charging port since thats becoming the new universal port. Failing the availability of a dumb phone with type C, I can settle for micro USB.
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These are some features I dont need, but would like to have. Even having one of these features would be nice if you can suggest a phone with it:
Cheap Well, I guess I dont want to pay 150 bucks for a flip phone if I can avoid it.
Compact. Remember the Samsung Juke? I would love a phone that was similarly small.
Smart'ish They don't make a phone with Android that doesn't require a data plan do they? How about something with well thought through apps added into it's functionality? My Alias 2 was somewhat useful in this regard, especially with it's full keypad to type in notes.
Swiss army knife A phone with blutooth, flashlight, etc, maybe things I might not have thought of that could help out in a pinch.
Durable Something at least solidly built
Exceptional Battery A phone that either had exceptional standby time or the ability to swap in AA batteries in emergencies would be very useful.
Any thoughts everyone?

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