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[Q] Related to stock recovery/ROM.

Hey guys. So I am running 4.4.4 right now on my XT1033. Waiting for 5.0 now. However, I wanna root my phone now but I have some questions related to the update that I wanna clear first.
1, I already have unlocked my boot loader, will that affect my phone in receiving the OTA update?
2, Can I root my phone without removing the stock recovery, since I won't be flashing ROMs now and I wouldn't need it.
3, If I can't root without removing the stock recovery, how can I go back to stock recovery?
4, In order to update, do I have to unroot and lock the boot loader again or is that not necessary?
That's all. Keep in mind that my main concern is that I want root along with, when the time comes, the OTA update installation without any problems.
I am new at this so please bear with me. Hoping for an early reply, thank you.

Anyone?

drag00n619 said:
Hey guys. So I am running 4.4.4 right now on my XT1033. Waiting for 5.0 now. However, I wanna root my phone now but I have some questions related to the update that I wanna clear first.
1, I already have unlocked my boot loader, will that affect my phone in receiving the OTA update?
2, Can I root my phone without removing the stock recovery, since I won't be flashing ROMs now and I wouldn't need it.
3, If I can't root without removing the stock recovery, how can I go back to stock recovery?
4, In order to update, do I have to unroot and lock the boot loader again or is that not necessary?
That's all. Keep in mind that my main concern is that I want root along with, when the time comes, the OTA update installation without any problems.
I am new at this so please bear with me. Hoping for an early reply, thank you.
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1. There's no problem with unlocked bootloader in order to receive the OTA.
2. There's a method to root without modifying recovery. Search for "root moto g modaco" on google, and choose "option 1, superboot". (Since I am a junior member I cannot submit links) :crying:
3. You can also change recovery using fastboot or Mototools, flash supersu.zip and then flash stock recovery again using mototools, which is prepared to flash cwm, twrp or stock recovery,
4. You don't need to re-lock bootloader in order to update
Anyway, I read that you can receive the OTA being root, but only if you have not modifyied system (i.e removing system apk's) nor modifying kernel.
Hope this was useful!

arya5 said:
1. There's no problem with unlocked bootloader in order to receive the OTA.
2. There's a method to root without modifying recovery. Search for "root moto g modaco" on google, and choose "option 1, superboot". (Since I am a junior member I cannot submit links) :crying:
3. You can also change recovery using fastboot or Mototools, flash supersu.zip and then flash stock recovery again using mototools, which is prepared to flash cwm, twrp or stock recovery,
4. You don't need to re-lock bootloader in order to update
Anyway, I read that you can receive the OTA being root, but only if you have not modifyied system (i.e removing system apk's) nor modifying kernel.
Hope this was useful!
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Thank you, that really helped. And yea, I won't be messing around with the system apps, just gonna install Xposed.
2 more questions though
1, Is it possible to flash the stock recovery from CWM?
2, I read somewhere that the stock recovery can be extracted from the ROM of your phone. Is that true? That means that I can make a backup of my current ROM and also have the stock recovery with me, right?
Once again, thanks!

drag00n619 said:
Thank you, that really helped. And yea, I won't be messing around with the system apps, just gonna install Xposed.
2 more questions though
1, Is it possible to flash the stock recovery from CWM?
2, I read somewhere that the stock recovery can be extracted from the ROM of your phone. Is that true? That means that I can make a backup of my current ROM and also have the stock recovery with me, right?
Once again, thanks!
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A recovery can be flashed from recovery, but only if you have it on a flashable zip, if you have it on img format, you need to use mototools or fastboot from pc. This second option is more recommendable
Concerning second question, I think I don't understand you. Original recovery can be found at the original firmware, this means that if you flash the original stock firmware it comes with the stock recovery, but I am not sure that you will recover stock recovery restoring a previous backup. Sorry

[Q] Help with installing lollipop on unlocked phone

Hello !
I recently bought a used Z3 6603, and wanted to update it to lollipop.
But it seems it has a unlocked bootloader (according to service menu) and when i recieved it, it was factory reset, but some 3rd party apps were still installed.
One of them Super SU, so it was rooted.
I was told that i could update the firmware if i just used the Full Uninstall feature in Super Su, so i did that.
I still can't update using sony companion, becouse it knows the software is not the original one.
And i cant reinstall super su, its saying that there is no SU binary installed and the program cant install it.
I have flashed phones before, but it was really a long time ago, so im asking for some help to fix this.
Its running 4.4.4 build 23.0.1.A.5.77 and stock rom i think.
Please tell me what to do, and what info you might need !
I want to have the phone in lollipop, but everything stock, no root, no bootloader etc.
And somewhere I read something about DRM keys. Please help me with fixing that aswell thank you.
Regards ImmoralCore

ImmoralCore said:
Hello !
I recently bought a used Z3 6603, and wanted to update it to lollipop.
But it seems it has a unlocked bootloader (according to service menu) and when i recieved it, it was factory reset, but some 3rd party apps were still installed.
One of them Super SU, so it was rooted.
I was told that i could update the firmware if i just used the Full Uninstall feature in Super Su, so i did that.
I still can't update using sony companion, becouse it knows the software is not the original one.
And i cant reinstall super su, its saying that there is no SU binary installed and the program cant install it.
I have flashed phones before, but it was really a long time ago, so im asking for some help to fix this.
Its running 4.4.4 build 23.0.1.A.5.77 and stock rom i think.
Please tell me what to do, and what info you might need !
I want to have the phone in lollipop, but everything stock, no root, no bootloader etc.
And somewhere I read something about DRM keys. Please help me with fixing that aswell thank you.
Regards ImmoralCore
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Your DRM keys are lost forever.

TheTeslaCoil said:
Your DRM keys are lost forever.
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Ok, so they are lost even if I use the first backup that was made by the person I bought it from ?
DRM=Hardcoded=Once unlocked, always DRM free, even if you use the recovery image ?
And the rest of the questions, what am I supposed to do to get stock lollipop?
In the matter of fact it does not matter if its unlocked or locked, I just want legit lollipop, with the possibility to update regularly. (But if root is possible at the same, it can still be rooted)
Thanks for your reply !

You need the TA backup. Not system backup.
And careful not to restore some other TA.
If the previous owner backed up TA, good. If not, no chance to recover them.
Download your specific firmware in ftf format and flash it with Flashtool.
Make a clean install.
You cannot recieve OTA with an unlocked bootloader, only if you relock, but there is no point in doing that if the DRM keys are lost.
So, from where you stand, keep it rooted and unlocked, because you can do much more with it : Custom ROM' s [at the moment stock is best]...custom kernels with recovery...mods...etc.
After you flash the ftf, flash via adb a custom kernel with recovery and from recovery flash SuperSU update, as a flashable zip, that will root the phone and install SuperSU.Search also for busybox flashable zip.

TheTeslaCoil said:
You need the TA backup. Not system backup.
And careful not to restore some other TA.
If the previous owner backed up TA, good. If not, no chance to recover them.
Download your specific firmware in ftf format and flash it with Flashtool.
Make a clean install.
You cannot recieve OTA with an unlocked bootloader, only if you relock, but there is no point in doing that if the DRM keys are lost.
So, from where you stand, keep it rooted and unlocked, because you can do much more with it : Custom ROM' s [at the moment stock is best]...custom kernels with recovery...mods...etc.
After you flash the ftf, flash via adb a custom kernel with recovery and from recovery flash SuperSU update, as a flashable zip, that will root the phone and install SuperSU.Search also for busybox flashable zip.
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Ok, I will try that then, but if I use flashtool to update to lollipop, will I still be able to root easy, or should I reinstall 4.4.4 clean, then root, fix recovery kernel and everything, and then lollipop or what goes first?
Does flash/kernel etc affect the fact that it has an unlocked bootloader ? do i need to do anything with that, or do it stay unlocked?

ImmoralCore said:
Ok, I will try that then, but if I use flashtool to update to lollipop, will I still be able to root easy, or should I reinstall 4.4.4 clean, then root, fix recovery kernel and everything, and then lollipop or what goes first?
Does flash/kernel etc affect the fact that it has an unlocked bootloader ? do i need to do anything with that, or do it stay unlocked?
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If you have unlocked the bootloader it is always a trivial matter to root.
Just flash an insecure kernel.
If one does not exist use [NUT]'s online kernel builder to make one with recovery incorporated in it. Its very straightforward and an automated process.
So, update using flashtool, flash your custom kernel, and you have root and recovery.

gregbradley said:
If you have unlocked the bootloader it is always a trivial matter to root.
Just flash an insecure kernel.
If one does not exist use [NUT]'s online kernel builder to make one with recovery incorporated in it. Its very straightforward and an automated process.
So, update using flashtool, flash your custom kernel, and you have root and recovery.
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1. Sorry for my noobish question, but define insecure kernel?
2. Did I get it right? I read about ppl downgrading their phones to 4.4.4 and then installing stuff. And for me it does not matter wich version it is, becouse the unlocked bootloader makes it easy to flash, even what version you are running?

ImmoralCore said:
1. Sorry for my noobish question, but define insecure kernel?
2. Did I get it right? I read about ppl downgrading their phones to 4.4.4 and then installing stuff. And for me it does not matter wich version it is, becouse the unlocked bootloader makes it easy to flash, even what version you are running?
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1) a rooted kernel.
2) If you have unlocked there is no need to follow any of the locked bootloader guides, they are a waste of your time. One of the points point of unlocking the phone is to easily get root. You just flash a custom kernel to gain root.
If you have a locked bootloader then you have to go through all the fuss of downgrading etc etc.... but with an unlocked bootloader its so easy and straightforward

gregbradley said:
1) a rooted kernel.
2) If you have unlocked there is no need to follow any of the locked bootloader guides, they are a waste of your time. One of the points point of unlocking the phone is to easily get root. You just flash a custom kernel to gain root.
If you have a locked bootloader then you have to go through all the fuss of downgrading etc etc.... but with an unlocked bootloader its so easy and straightforward
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Ok, thank you very much for your answers both of you!
I understand everything much better, now its just some flashing to do, c ya ! :good:

ImmoralCore said:
Ok, thank you very much for your answers both of you!
I understand everything much better, now its just some flashing to do, c ya ! :good:
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Good luck.

Is there a way to root on 5.1.1 23.4.A.1.200 ?

Hello there,
have been trying to root my new xperia z3 for 3 weekends now with no luck.
My bootloader has been unlocked through sony website, then relocked and unlocked many times using flashtool.
Looks like all the recoveries (doomlord, twrp) I could find work only on 4.4.4. Then I use flashtool to flash lollipop 5.1.1 23.4.A.1.200 and either wipe and loose the root or don't wipe all and enter a bootloop.
Flashing those recovery kernels straight on lollipop make the phone enter bootloop.
Are you guys able to root those Z3 under 5.1.1 ?
thank you

Sure shot easy way is flash kitkat firmware and use giefroot or flash 5.0 firmware and use kingroot.

Mate, you have to flash a prerooted version of 5.1.1 you can't just flash a stock rom and expect to stay rooted.
Downgrade to Kitkat then root and install a custom recovery. Then you download 5.1.1, Super Su and a custom recovery, create a pre rooted flashable zip with PRFcreator . Then flash it in your custom recovery and you're done. Rooted 5.1.1 with a custom recovery ready to rock.

Kingroot isn't recommendable, your IMEI is sent to China. Downgrade to 4.4, root with giefieroot, upgrade with pre-rooted ROM.
Btw: did you make a backup of your TA partition before unlocking bootloader?

Thanks a lot for your answer guys.
Am unusually struggling with this device.
lol1rfs said:
Mate, you have to flash a prerooted version of 5.1.1 you can't just flash a stock rom and expect to stay rooted.
Downgrade to Kitkat then root and install a custom recovery. Then you download 5.1.1, Super Su and a custom recovery, create a pre rooted flashable zip with PRFcreator . Then flash it in your custom recovery and you're done. Rooted 5.1.1 with a custom recovery ready to rock.
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Have already downgraded to kitkat, installed custom recovery and rooted. But the 5.1.1 stock flash indeed wipe everything.
Haven't found yet a custom recovery for 5.1.1 that doesn't make the phone enter a bootloop. Would you happen to have a link ?
I'll give a look to that PRFcreator, didn't know about it.
Jkay7 said:
Kingroot isn't recommendable, your IMEI is sent to China. Downgrade to 4.4, root with giefieroot, upgrade with pre-rooted ROM.
Btw: did you make a backup of your TA partition before unlocking bootloader?
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This is what I read about kingroot and haven't found any other way to root a 5.1.1 stock.
Where could I find a pre-rooter ROM then ? My wish was to be stock and rooted to be able to use apps like titanium backup and adblockers. Used to try custom roms every other day on my old SGS but today I'd be happy with something that just works.
Did not make any backup before unlocking but looked like flashtool was able to relock the device. Am I right guessing I didn't loose my DRM keys then ?
Thanks again for your answers.
Edit: looks like am missing sthg, what's the point in rooting a kitkat to upgrade with a pre-rooted lollipop right after ?

After KitKat root you get a Lollipop pre-rooted image and flash it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/d6603-5-0-2-flashable-stock-23-1-0-690-t3056361
Here are the steps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-rootrecovery-how-to-root-install-t3017056

I hope you made a TA backup before unlocking your bootloader, otherwise you have lost your DRM keys forever.
Anyway, if your bootloader is now locked, follow the guide that Licaon_Kter linked in the above post.
The exploit that lets us root our Z3 only works on Kitkat, so downgrade first, run the exploit to obtain root, and install recovery.
You will then have stock, rooted, KitKat.
To get to 5.1.1, you will then need to either create your own pre rooted firmware, or download one that someone has kindly posted on here.
If you want to learn how to do it, read this --> Create your own pre rooted firmware with PRF Creator
PRF Creator will create a zip file that can be flashed from recovery, so once you have recovery installed, it's dead easy.
That will get you where you want to be.
However . . . and there's always a however lol . . .
. . . if you still have an unlocked bootloader, it is much simpler from wherever you are.
Find any custom rom that has recovery built in, and almost all do, then fastboot the kernel only, the boot.img.
Reboot your device and enter recovery.
Install your pre rooted firmware that you have either created with PRF Creator, or downloaded from here.
Job done.
My personal advice is read, read, and then read some more.
It can be very complicated, but you'll get the hang of it.

Licaon_Kter said:
After KitKat root you get a Lollipop pre-rooted image and flash it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/d6603-5-0-2-flashable-stock-23-1-0-690-t3056361
Here are the steps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-rootrecovery-how-to-root-install-t3017056
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I still have an unlocked bootloader since flashtool can lock and unlock it in a matter of a second.
Went back again in KK rooted with twrp recovery.
Wiped data, cache, dalvik.
Flashed D6603_23.4.A.1.232_Customized_US_SuperSU_XZDR2.8.2 1 from the link above and ... CWM recovery report install from sdcard completed after 1s and nothing more. Am still booting in KK after that.
This didn't work for me. Am losing it now with this phone.
Am I missing sthg ? Any advice ?
Can't use PRFCreator, am under mac os...
Thanks to all for your help

Try with TWRP too

Licaon_Kter said:
After KitKat root you get a Lollipop pre-rooted image and flash it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/d6603-5-0-2-flashable-stock-23-1-0-690-t3056361
Here are the steps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-rootrecovery-how-to-root-install-t3017056
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Licaon_Kter said:
Try with TWRP too
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tried twrp found there http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/development/recovery-z3-twrp-2-8-4-0-t3028846
phone is not booting anymore.
twrp post says it doesn't work on stock room.
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Is there really anyone out there with a rooted stock lollipop ?
or you are all using customs ?
am seriously questionning the thing now

Why would you NOT follow the steps?
GO AGAIN from the start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-rootrecovery-how-to-root-install-t3017056

Licaon_Kter said:
Why would you NOT follow the steps?
GO AGAIN from the start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-rootrecovery-how-to-root-install-t3017056
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I just can't, I don't have access to a window machine

Both giefroot and FlashTool are for Win/Mac/Linux.

Licaon_Kter said:
Both giefroot and FlashTool are for Win/Mac/Linux.
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I appreciate your still trying to help me.
I do use flashtool and am able to root a Kitkat 23.0.A.2.93, so I don't see the point in using giefroot unless it could root a lollipop.
I have read thoroughly and downloaded pre-rooted lollipop stock roms from the link you provided.
Once under KK, rooted, with all settings set properly (debug, security, etc...), and all caches/dalvik/data wiped, the CMW recovery just don't flash those lollipop roms. After just one sec, it says install completed but then the device still boot under KK.
TWRP doesn't even intall, so am wondering if this is even possible to get a TWRP on stock rom.
Have tried all of those with bootloader unlocked and locked, or a mix like unlocked first to be able to root a KK, then relock to flash a stock prerooted 5.1.1 (as stated in the post) but then I get a device that doesn't even boot.
Tried dualrecovery too, flash the zip, and nothing.
I suspect all of you guys have used some sort of .bat windows utility to get through this.
Once again, thanks for your help and patience.

ikho said:
I do use flashtool and am able to root a Kitkat 23.0.A.2.93, so I don't see the point in using giefroot unless it could root a lollipop.
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The point is to go from the BEGINing _again_: Flash stock KK, giefroot, XZ, pre-rooted LP
I have done it in Linux w/ locked bootloader and stock ROM, hence my pointers.
XZDualrecovery has TWRP 2.8.7.0. But, do take note that you use Volume Down to enter PhilzTouch Recovery and Volume Up to enter TWRP.

Licaon_Kter said:
Both giefroot and FlashTool are for Win/Mac/Linux.
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am sorry, can't find how to use giefroot on a mac.
read quite a few post of people saying that was not working for them.

Run the INSTALL.SH file in a console (just like they instruct you for the .BAT file for Windows), it detects OS and runs either adb for Linux or for Mac.
Well, like I said, it worked fine in Linux, I guess it should work on Mac, providing the device is detected ok beforehand and such. ( what does "adb devices" outputs with the phone connected ? )

Licaon_Kter said:
Run the INSTALL.SH file in a console (just like they instruct you for the .BAT file for Windows), it detects OS and runs either adb for Linux or for Mac.
Well, like I said, it worked fine in Linux, I guess it should work on Mac, providing the device is detected ok beforehand and such. ( what does "adb devices" outputs with the phone connected ? )
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yaaay, houray it finally worked
big thanks man, you saved me $500 on that one !

[Q/HELP] Cannot install apps on Huawei MT7-L09 Lollipop 5.1.1 B324

Hello
I have a problem with my Mate. I will try and list the things i did to get to this problem and I hope the information helps solve it.
I wanted to install xposed (first thing I did wrong) so I rooted using King Root (ver 4.8.2) successfully
then unlocked the bootloader using Huawei website
Using Flashy, I flashed TWRP recovery to install xposed (regrets).
After creating back up on TWRP, I tried to flash xposed, didnt work.
I gave up and rebooted phone to android, and i saw i had lost Nav buttons and Notification bar.
Booted back into TWRP and tried to restore my backup. It kept failing at 33% (would post logs but I lost them), I then thought a factory reset would help and it did.
I got the navigation and notification bar, but I soon realised I cannot install apps. I couldn’t install from my SD (apk’s) or from the Play Store.
I can’t install anything on it now. I’ve learnt my lesson not to mess with the inner workings of my device but now I am stuck with EMUI (no Nova or other 3rd party launcher).
Is there any way I can get it back to installing apps as usual? I saw another thread with similar problem (can’t install apps) but I wasn’t sure if I should post there (its old and unattended thread). If I should post this in another thread please point me in the right direction and thank you in advance.
:crying:

I would clear cache and Dalvik cache in recovery then flash back to a stock kitkat recovery, put the correct stock complete kitkat ROM in the dload folder in SD card and do a force update from stock recovery. Once it runs properly again, update to the right ROM you want to run, in the correct order of updates, make sure bootloader is unlocked, root the correct way (not kingroot, use ADB) then seek guidance on what mods work with what ROM. Do not try to root without unlocked bootloader! That ruined it I think.
If you want Xposed, it only partially works in Kitkat, not at all in Lollipop. What do you need with Xposed? I'm running B331 Lollipop now, no Xposed and no real need for it. I do have unlocked bootloader, root and Viper4android and it runs great. I use Smart Launcher Pro but kept Huawei Home (launcher) and theming apps installed so the system is happy but it looks how I want and is good to use.

Thanks for your quick response RobboW, will try that method and let you know if I make any improvement to my situation.
So I have to get a stock KitKat recovery and stock KitKat ROM for that recovery. Do I force an update from TWRP or what? I'll read up on recovering stock Roms and let you know if I make any progress. Thank you for the response though.

Force update with a stock ROM needs to be done from stock recovery. TWRP stops the phone from updating the stock way. The bootloader can stay unlocked if it already is.

It worked exactly like you said. I'm back on Lollipop B324. I can install apps and got the motion control settings back.
Thank you so much RobboW!

You're welcome
OS faults are not so bad if you have access to recovery. It's the ones that make using recovery and ADB difficult that cause the big dramas.

Rollback to 6.0.0 still neccessary? And some Q

Hi,
I unlocked My bootloader successfully and installed twrp. Everythings fine so far.
Now I saw a thread mentioning a rollback to stock 6.0.0 is neccessary before installing cm13 because of the baseband. Do I still have to do that?
I also read about supersu. Do I have to install it before cm? In a rooted device? I thought supersu is for rooting the device?
And finally I thought cm13 is stable for My A9 but there are only nightly builds. Recommended for daily use?
Sry for all those noob questions, but I already read around for hours, without coming to a solution. Although flashing cm to My S5 Mini was alot easier.
I appreciate any help with that stuff.

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Btw. I saw the supersu Thread and I found instructions on how to root the device.
The Instruction says I have to install supersu to root the device. In the supersu thread they say my device has to be rooted to install supersu.
Confusion is complete

On all devices I've had, never had to root (SuperSU) to install CyanogenMod. Just unlock bootloader and install twrp.
The SuperSU thread is wrong, I read the same thing when I had a nexus 5. I think it means just bootloader needs to be unlocked.
Only time I used SuperSU was if I was on stock rom. CM13 has root built in. Enable it in developer options.
As far as having to downgrade to 6.0, no idea if it's still needed. It's one of the reasons I'm still on stock. I don't like methods needed to downgrade.

thx
Thanks for your reply.
I installed CM13 nightly successfully on my A9.
No Rollback neccessary.

itsabrick said:
Thanks for your reply.
I installed CM13 nightly successfully on my A9.
No Rollback neccessary.
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Really? Your phone had latest stock update and you installed cm13, and have no issues with it? No boot loops?

I've been using cm for some days. Some apps a crashing once a while, voice recording in whatsapp doesnt work without crashing the APP. AS far as I use My phone it is fine.
I booted the phone two times since I installed cm and no bootloops.
Bought it in germany.
Edit: Don't know it was the latest stock. I left the Version that was already installed on the phone. AS far as I remember it was 6.0.1