Why do ROMS have to be made from scratch every time? - Android General

Every time there's a new Android version released, rom developers start from scratch.
So for example there could be lots of options the developers made in the last version. Now they have to do it all over again for the new version. Many times all the previous options are missing or dont work right.
As a real example, my last rom version was AOKP 4.4.4. I am now looking for a rom based on 5.1 with all the options I used to have but I cant find them. All the debugging and programming has to be done from scratch again and the whole painful cycle of providing CatLogs and getting bugs to work out and updating the rom starts again.
Why does it have to be like this?
Why cant there be a modular software design? We have CPU, memory, a screen, volume rocker and other hardware. Why cant it be plug and play?

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Choosing the right ROM

Well I'm sad to say but all the ROMs I have tried in the past couple of weeks haven't worked for me...
The story of my ROMs experimentation starts with T-Mobile Vario III and T-Mobile customized ROM. In short, like a worst nightmare! New version of T-Mobile customized ROM, nothing happened, everything was exactly same as with previous version.
Then I finally decided to try couple of WM 6.5 ROMs which worked like a charm but WM 6.5 is beta and half of the stuff in it is unfinished... Back to 6.1...
Than: HyperDragon (a few variants), shifu, Paradox, AthineOS, TPCExtreme, Ultimate-X... Mostly SuperRam ROMs... Hundred of pages in topics, dozens of fixes, black screens, restarts and so on... Applications that I don't need, folders confusingly organized, startup and bootup screens that don't fit to one business phone, black background icons (what's wrong with WM icons with transparent background) and so on...
Currently using stock HTC ROM and it works. It is sluggish but my device doesn't restart and I don't have to install at least 5 programs or fixes to make him work...
My question: Can someone point me to ROM that works without reading through 100 pages of topics and installing fixes for stuff that should work like notification and volume control? I use my Kasier as a business phone and primary e-mail reading device and I can't afford for my Kaiser to be offline for couple of hours (not to mention a day) and don't have time to read thousands of posts of "how-to-fix".
What do I need? Messaging (SMS and e-mail with notifications working), Opera, iGO, working Volume control, Bluetooth and jog wheel to be able to quickly quite my device if in a meeting or to change the volume of speaker when in a call.
I don't mean to disrespect all the chef's around and I do appreciate your work because for most of people around here you make their Kaisers work the way they should work!
s1m0n.lfs said:
Well I'm sad to say but all the ROMs I have tried in the past couple of weeks haven't worked for me...
The story of my ROMs experimentation starts with T-Mobile Vario III and T-Mobile customized ROM. In short, like a worst nightmare! New version of T-Mobile customized ROM, nothing happened, everything was exactly same as with previous version.
Then I finally decided to try couple of WM 6.5 ROMs which worked like a charm but WM 6.5 is beta and half of the stuff in it is unfinished... Back to 6.1...
Than: HyperDragon (a few variants), shifu, Paradox, AthineOS, TPCExtreme, Ultimate-X... Mostly SuperRam ROMs... Hundred of pages in topics, dozens of fixes, black screens, restarts and so on... Applications that I don't need, folders confusingly organized, startup and bootup screens that don't fit to one business phone, black background icons (what's wrong with WM icons with transparent background) and so on...
Currently using stock HTC ROM and it works. It is sluggish but my device doesn't restart and I don't have to install at least 5 programs or fixes to make him work...
My question: Can someone point me to ROM that works without reading through 100 pages of topics and installing fixes for stuff that should work like notification and volume control? I use my Kasier as a business phone and primary e-mail reading device and I can't afford for my Kaiser to be offline for couple of hours (not to mention a day) and don't have time to read thousands of posts of "how-to-fix".
What do I need? Messaging (SMS and e-mail with notifications working), Opera, iGO, working Volume control, Bluetooth and jog wheel to be able to quickly quite my device if in a meeting or to change the volume of speaker when in a call.
I don't mean to disrespect all the chef's around and I do appreciate your work because for most of people around here you make their Kaisers work the way they should work!
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If you want you machine to work right off the rip I would stay with a stock rom. while all the roms here are great unforseen prob do come up. While the cooks try to help fix it they do it for fun and have other matters to attend to.
zelendel said:
If you want you machine to work right off the rip I would stay with a stock rom. while all the roms here are great unforseen prob do come up. While the cooks try to help fix it they do it for fun and have other matters to attend to.
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I totally agree...
Anyway, if you look at the way PDACorner organized his post, you'll see that on post #2, there is a list of known bug with links to all fixes... This is really a way of organizing things that I personnally like very much and can save you from reading 1000s of posts for getting the info...
Flashing is for those of us who want to make our phones perfect, the best Apps, the best speed, the very best function and style. We don't mind a little work to or reading to get them " exactly " the way we want it.
I have worked at getting My phone perfect ( also a business phone ) and it is. None of the problems that you seem to think are inherent in every cooked rom.
You sound to me like the stock rom type not the cooked rom type. Do it HTC's way and stick with the stock rom.
There is a huge difference between stock roms and cooked roms. Stock roms are meant to work flawlessly, without bugs and without too many additional software. The default configuration will work, will (most likely) not crash, but won't do anything fancy either. It might also be slow at times.
Cooked roms are made for those who would like to experiment. People who don't mind a crash now or then, and don't mind to reflash every day/week/month (tick the one that applies ).
If i would use my phone for business purposes i would probably stay with the stock ROM or flash a stable 6.1 ROM, like PDACorner's.
Nevertheless there is no such thing as a perfect ROM. Every ROM has it's advantages as well as disadvantages. Live with it; Windows Mobile just isn't a perfect mobile OS, while doubting the fact any OS can be...
I switch ROM's on a regulary basis. Basic functions always work, no matter the ROM. I flash because additional features work better/faster/more stable on certain ROM's than others. But this requires some of your time, to flash and set everything up again.
The fun is that all of this is up to you. If you like to experiment, then flash as much as you like until you find something you like. There will always be certain flaws where you will have to live with.
There is no such thing as perfect ROM! Always remember to keep flashing and keep reading!
K-Paradise said:
Stock roms are meant to work flawlessly, without bugs and without too many additional software. The default configuration will work, will (most likely) not crash, but won't do anything fancy either. It might also be slow at times.
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Work flawlessly Without bugs The Default configuration will work
What stock rom were you using
Do you also think that Vista is flawless and without bugs
denco7 said:
Work flawlessly Without bugs The Default configuration will work
What stock rom were you using
Do you also think that Vista is flawless and without bugs
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Read, my friend. I said they are meant to work without bugs and work flawlessly in a default configuration. You won't hear me say that they always do.
Nevertheless the stock ROM will in most cases do sort of everything the way it is meant to be. The change of finding broken application links or errors from mortscript i.e., is pretty small, if not none. And if these errors do appear, you've obviously bought a phone of bad quality.
This said, i'm not using a stock ROM myself. In that case i wouldn't reply to this topic. I'm someone, just like the rest here i suppose, who likes to switch to the newest, even though the quality might be worse then what i've had. But i'm always in for something new, which you might not be if you're using you phone for business purposes and do very much rely on the call quality, for example.
It's simple really either you stick to stocks or you become a flasher @ which point you will flash untill you find that ROM that you know can be used every day and still carry on flashin to try find a new better ROM if you don't like or got bugz you flash back to your every day ROM......
If it all seems tooo much and your a person who can't problem solve "read" and also put in the time to set up device as you wish then a stock is best bet.
Goverment Health Warning:
After flashing you may suffer from Flashers OCD!!!
Goverment Health Warning:
After flashing you may suffer from Flashers OCD!!! [/QUOTE]
Then you have one last choice in picking up a kitchen and learning to cook your own rom, but above warning still applies.
yes
As it has been said, rom flashing is personal preference, please find the perfect one for you whether it is a oem or custom rom through searching and flashing.
Closing thread,
Peace,
Joshua

[Q] Is there a Android app like "Activator: on the iPhone

Hello,
I was wondering if there was an Android app like Activator on the iPhone? I have searched to the best of my abilities regarding this question but have not found a clear answer. The closest I have come to finding this answer was the app "LaunchKey." However, it does not seem to fit what I am looking for.
Reason for this search is due to my brief episode with the iPhone 3g and yes I know...(after finding out, android system is definitely better in terms of customizing and freedom) Thus during that time I came upon this app called "Activator", which is basically amazing. Now that I am back using the android system I realized the only I miss about the iPhone was that app.
So if anyone can help that would be great! Thanks!
BTW:
Background information on the iPhone jailbreak app "Activator." Basically you can launch any apps and system actions via gestures or hardware buttons. (such as long-press, short-press, double tap,etc...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850464
and for gestures Im not entirely sure where I saw it or or what it was called but it does exist.
Reply
Thanks for the reply, however, I did stumble upon that app but it does not really support long press, short press, double tap and other various hardware buttons. As for gestures, I guess it does not matter as much as the hardware button configuration. Basically can a button have more functions than just one ie: home button-going to home. Thanks
I'm hoping that this app exists, as its one of the first apps I discovered years ago that was auto installed after jail breaking my previous iPhone. The app basically allows you customize a very large range of settings as shortcuts.
http://m.lifehacker.com/5899492/mak...hen-you-connect-or-disconnect-your-headphones
not strongly related but here's an app which I found very useful:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tora.mamma.swipestart
Thanks!
Thanks for your input I however have found the app "SwipePad" to be extremely useful, albeit not the original application I was looking for but it does the job Thank you again!
really!!! Android is amazing, I think is like a pocket pc, but sometimes I miss my old iPhone when I remember cydia tweeks like Activator. :silly:
mnunez2 said:
really!!! Android is amazing, I think is like a pocket pc, but sometimes I miss my old iPhone when I remember cydia tweeks like Activator. :silly:
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LOL, yeah same here man this post is old Most of the updates in 4.2 resolved my need for Activator...though not as much options it serves well nevertheless
clikonco said:
LOL, yeah same here man this post is old Most of the updates in 4.2 resolved my need for Activator...though not as much options it serves well nevertheless
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OMG This is what I want to say my Android Friends Iphone tweaks are more easy way to go, im wondering How can I get Activator !!! >> since 4 years im iphone user and recently bought Note 2 (still I have Iphone) this entire conversation is what im looking for Please help to get a tweaks like that even I looked Cydia substrate for Android mm no use as of know....
Widgets are great but you still have to unlock the phone and look at the screen and press it. With activator you can, for example, press the power button of the phone twice and that will initiate the flash light... this is much better when you are in need of the flash light quickly...I wish android had something like that...
Help Help .... Droid help
webvamsi555 said:
OMG This is what I want to say my Android Friends Iphone tweaks are more easy way to go, im wondering How can I get Activator !!! >> since 4 years im iphone user and recently bought Note 2 (still I have Iphone) this entire conversation is what im looking for Please help to get a tweaks like that even I looked Cydia substrate for Android mm no use as of know....
Widgets are great but you still have to unlock the phone and look at the screen and press it. With activator you can, for example, press the power button of the phone twice and that will initiate the flash light... this is much better when you are in need of the flash light quickly...I wish android had something like that...
Help Help .... Droid help
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I believe since the time I have posted this question to the present, there have been alternatives as well as actual implementations to the hardware tweaks. Currently, there are baked in hardware tweaks in custom ROM such as CM10.1 (lock screen long press buttons do variety of different things) or software programs such as swipepad, or Trigger app (Both of which I use a lot)
My current ROM CM10.1 has the capability of accessing the flashlight from the longpress of home button while in lockscreen. Or even changing music volume and music track by volume press/longpress. This I consider the equivilent of what you were referring to.
clikonco said:
I believe since the time I have posted this question to the present, there have been alternatives as well as actual implementations to the hardware tweaks. Currently, there are baked in hardware tweaks in custom ROM such as CM10.1 (lock screen long press buttons do variety of different things) or software programs such as swipepad, or Trigger app (Both of which I use a lot)
My current ROM CM10.1 has the capability of accessing the flashlight from the longpress of home button while in lockscreen. Or even changing music volume and music track by volume press/longpress. This I consider the equivilent of what you were referring to.
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Hi Clikonco,
Thanks for the Update, awesome response, I'm new to Android and have few questions
1) if I do Custom Rom CM10.1 can I get is back to normal Stock ROM to get warranty back ?
2) If so what would be the best procedure to install CM10.1 ?
I already root my Stock Rom with Rooting using Odin by Beginners Guide
3) So would I be able to install CM10.1 after rooting my custom Rom
4) If possible also please point me(url) to unroot custom Rom to Stock Operating system please (for future need).
5) And also I heard a lot about cm10, cm10 nightly, cm10 aopk which one is better or all these same ? I have international Note 2 with
GT- N7100 > 4.1.2 > Baseband : N7100DDDMG1 > Build no : JZ054K.N7100XXDMG1 > Kernel V: 3.0.31-1071214
confused !!!!
Please help .. Thanks a lot lot lot :good:
webvamsi555 said:
Hi Clikonco,
Thanks for the Update, awesome response, I'm new to Android and have few questions
1) if I do Custom Rom CM10.1 can I get is back to normal Stock ROM to get warranty back ?
2) If so what would be the best procedure to install CM10.1 ?
I already root my Stock Rom with Rooting using Odin by Beginners Guide
3) So would I be able to install CM10.1 after rooting my custom Rom
4) If possible also please point me(url) to unroot custom Rom to Stock Operating system please (for future need).
5) And also I heard a lot about cm10, cm10 nightly, cm10 aopk which one is better or all these same ? I have international Note 2 with
GT- N7100 > 4.1.2 > Baseband : N7100DDDMG1 > Build no : JZ054K.N7100XXDMG1 > Kernel V: 3.0.31-1071214
confused !!!!
Please help .. Thanks a lot lot lot :good:
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**ATTENTION: any of the information I have provided are based on my own experience/knowledge/research. IT IS IMPERATIVE(important) that you do your own research to double check my information and advice. If ever in DOUBT, ask/research around. (or dont follow through is usually the safest option) YOU are ultimately responsible for what you do with YOUR device, if you don't believe this, please do not continue dabbling in this area.​​
You should be able to do that, to "unroot" your phone, but it depends on the device as well as the instructions that other developers/rooters have given. (meaning not 100% probable, you need to do more research)
*JUST NOTICED YOU SAID YOU ARE ROOTED
-To get Stock ROM, just download the appropriate ROM zip files and then flash it.
-if you want to get warranty back, you will have to follow instructions for your device on how to unroot. (if even possible)
Follow the instructions given on the cyanogenmod website, usually involves flashing and wiping. (sounds like you have a samsung phone )
Based on question 3 statement, I believe you have to do MORE research. (as this is an extremely basic idea of rooting, unless of course I misread or the question was mistyped) Here is where you can start:CM about
Again, you have to do MORE research yourself, google is your friend for that. There is no one size fits all unrooting method.
Cyanogenmod (also known as CM) has an software release life cycle. (not counting the M snapshot nor experiments) You have Stable>Nightly> Release Candidates(RC).
Taken from this Forum
bassmadrigal:
Stable is after all the features desired by the CM devs have been put in and the code has been tested. Snapshots (M builds) are builds done roughly once a month that has had some testing to make sure things are mostly working and released to the public. These are the first builds that allow official bug reports on the project manager site, https://jira.cyanogenmod.org. Nightlies are automated builds that are built, well, every night. There is no human interaction with these and they are largely there just to see if the code added throughout the day will compile. As far as the devs are concerned, there are no bad builds with the nightlies, because if it doesn't build, that is news to let them know that something is screwed up in the code. They don't accept any bug reports on these builds.
Generally, the nightly builds, while extremely experimental and considered bleeding-edge, tend to be relatively stable and mostly bug-free. Many people use the nightlies as their so-called daily-driver, meaning that any bugs that they may have aren't so severe that they want to switch to a different version. For my Nexus 4, as soon as I got it I switched to a nightly build and haven't had any bugs pop up.
Also, all builds are full builds, so if you switch to a nightly, you aren't required to flash every single nightly. You can do it as you see fit. I've been known sometimes to flash a build every day, but then I've gone a month in between updating. Just grab the latest version you want to flash and flash that one.
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Similar answer regarding AOPK (Android Open Kang Project:What Is AOKP ROM? How Is It Different From CM9? All You Ever Wanted To Know About
Hope these answered/helped you. I intentionally did not include some information such as unrooting because you will have find them yourself Alright, already spent too much time on this post, im out for now.
BTW: if you or anyone finds incorrect information in this post, please feel free to correct me. Thank you!
clikonco said:
Hello,
I was wondering if there was an Android app like Activator on the iPhone? I have searched to the best of my abilities regarding this question but have not found a clear answer. The closest I have come to finding this answer was the app "LaunchKey." However, it does not seem to fit what I am looking for.
Reason for this search is due to my brief episode with the iPhone 3g and yes I know...(after finding out, android system is definitely better in terms of customizing and freedom) Thus during that time I came upon this app called "Activator", which is basically amazing. Now that I am back using the android system I realized the only I miss about the iPhone was that app.
So if anyone can help that would be great! Thanks!
BTW:
Background information on the iPhone jailbreak app "Activator." Basically you can launch any apps and system actions via gestures or hardware buttons. (such as long-press, short-press, double tap,etc...)
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Use xposed addition in xposed

[Q] single rom for multiple devices

guys i was thinking recently that all apps in android are modular i.e. they manage to fit themselves in any phone of different resolution or configuration,the same version of a particular app runs fine even on a low budget phone as well as a high end phone and sometimes even on tablet.the roms are comprised of many such apps ,android is modular and everything even lockscreen and settings are apps.
My point is if a single rom can be made which will be compatible with maximum number of mobiles . i do realise that there may be a few problems with wifi, bluetooth and maybe camera .but the first step is to get the rom booting.and of course kernels will have to be different for different devices,and maybe the problems with wifi can be solved by flashing kernel specific modules.
if this concept is feasible then the effort of porting roms and uploading them will be negligible .
if you think that this concept is new and innovative please reply and hit the thanks button

[Q&A] [p6800](18/Nov/2014)CyanogenMod 12.0 (Android 5.0) experimental

Q&A for [p6800](18/Nov/2014)CyanogenMod 12.0 (Android 5.0) experimental
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Hey Daniel, any solution to fix 3g on p6800 lollipop? Thanks
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Hey,Daniel,any solution to fix 3g on p6800 lollipop?Thanks
I need 10post to be able to post in Development board
Looking for fawrd to this build,
need at least mobile data, i will try it out...
had been follow since 4.3 till now..
Dear Daniel
Thanks for your developments. Will try it and revert for any comments.
Anthony
Daniel
Why cannot play youtube video in the apps. just only black blank screen, can you please to fix it?
Thanks for your great work
Anthony
HAPPYFATHER said:
Daniel
Why cannot play youtube video in the apps. just only black blank screen, can you please to fix it?
Thanks for your great work
Anthony
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As far as know it a known problem in cm at the moment it has to do with the hw decoders.
Sent from my Xperia Z1
Method to achieve root
Got ideas how to achieve root? KitKat method or any specified methods?
Amazing work, Daniel. Thanks so much for your effort.
My impressions on this release: battery life is AMAZING, a lot better than official firmware; I am unable to play any kind of video, Youtube included, that´s the only thing that is really bothering me since I use chromecast to watch movies from it; Incredibly fast and responsive; some screen tearing when browsing the web (using Chrome); I don´t know if it is just my imagination but the color scheme seems to be a little "off", contrast is a bit down; some reboots here and there, it doesn´t seem to have a specific reason.
Well, that´s it. Thanks again for all your work!
cm 12
Its super awesome we are seeing lollipop on gt6810 all though there were some fixes need for video decoding and others. I did try it out but all the roms I've tried don't quiet give me the simple stable experience paranoid 3.68 gives me especially with camera flash everytime its opened for new pictures to be taken and browser distortions which is hardly experienced in pa3.68. Looking at the paranoid rom, do you think lollipop could use abit of the old experince of paranoid just incase the new updates coming out of lollipop pose abit too much of difficulty?... I really would love to see this awesome lollipop interface you've given us a chance to experience on a paranoid kind of feel...u know... Also, compared to how light paranoid is, the kitkat and others seem to perform under alot of pressure. My tab practically gets really warm when watching a video on low screen light and a minimized volume. These things are scaring the crap out of me so I've reverted back to paranoid. Would love to have a positive feedback, hopefully... Once again, Thank you for the work you've done so far.. You're aweSome!
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My laptop got stolen recently.. Really wanted to tinker with this new build. now I have to do that directly from my tab somehow...really depressing and stressful but all goes well, hoping for a better future with cm 12.. :cyclops:
I Need Multi-User Support
Thank you Daniel. I love it!
I hope that the multi-user support will be added in the next build. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
Happy New Year!
test results for 5/1
very usable but not too stable,random crashes,auto restart,freezing
apps start fast but then lag a little
over all almost can be used as daily drive other than lag and random random crash and reboot
miss xposed and themes engine,lollipop has an annoying green-white theme ,yuck
Some issues with 10th Jan build
Hey Daniel,
Firstly, thanks a ton for your hard work. I check this forum on daily basis to check out new builds if any. I really love your work. I am still using my 3 year old tab just because of you.
I have installed the the 10th Jan build. There is one major issue I want to report. When I leave the tablet on for sometime untouched on charging or anything. I come back and try to use it at the moment the screen never switches on. I have to push the power button and hard restart the device again.
It seems to be dying out after going into deep sleep and need to be restarted to start using again.
If I am missing some solution for this please let me know so i can fix this. Otherwise this new build and new kernel is awesome. Even the speed of device has tremendously improved.
Ravi
reboot into recovery
hi
I installed this cyanogen rom on my P6800 , but in "Rom Manager" app i couldn't Reboot to Recovery.
when i press "Reboot to Recovery" my tab doesn't reboot!!!!!!!
Great Rom
This ROM is by far better than kitkat on many ways...and its much more stable... So far everything works perfectly...the only small thing is, I think lollipop is abit too heavy on the tab 7.7. Cm 12, I'm really enjoying the feel... Thanks Dan.
So how can lollipop feel lighter but with the same features? In terms of its memory management, speed at which it can process one or more things at a time and considering where tab 7.7 is coming from, it doesn't seem all that simple...
Also, you we could tell you if there were any problems.. No distortion or anything but there are minor flickers which kinda scares me..I hope its nothing. The flashlight function don't work. Any gapps higher than the micro version, I get this error "insufficient internal storage-aborting installation'. I use the latest TWRP.
Is it possible to get a camera app with photosphere? I really love that function in a camera..
Everything else works just fine...WiFi works better on da kk versions and much better on da lollipop (cm12). Like I said from the beginning, seems the lollipop weighs the tabs overall performance down a lot.. I couldn't find anything in the root folder that helped so maybe you could teach me a thing or two about that area on android lollipop...
I have a tab gtp6810
Thanks
And o, the previous ROMs that some people complained about the charging running down the battery instead while plugged in and running at least one app like the browser... I did a power supply reset in the terminal... I don't know if worked but I'll give a feedback here if I see any improvements for everyone using any of Dan HK ROMs...
fifth try
Well, I only installed the cm12 without gapp.. I'm going to fix in the apps I want from the gapp... So far, running abit smoother than with gapp install along cm12 together... For the torch, I'm going to take the one from cm11 and try make it a system app.. Also, the camera...the flash only works when every time you open anew and take the first picture or select through the flash settings.. Just like all the previous ROMs from carbon to slimkat... Only PAC and paranoid 4.2.2 are the last that works the way you would want..but graphical interface ain't as good as this..hehe
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The dalvik heap size allocations...do they work through the system's available storage, ram or some separate caches space separated? I sort of change those area abut..there was abit of change around the graphic performance and processor...couldn't really tell but it felt abit different... Will those sort of changes affect anything negatively as well somewhere in the custom firmware? I want to be careful I'm not doing anything wrong...
runs good
I think it run better without gapp....only difference is, you won't have all the Google service interface eating away your battery and stuffs power related.. Also, recent app button, the apps take abit more time for the close sign to appear... Its basic issues still remain like the missing torch function But in all, it works very good.. U think this new cm 12 could actually become an OS on it own? I've been going round the web seeing as how Aroma installer are popularly used with different cool installer interfaces... Cm12 so far ROCKS!
For those having battery charging problems, get the stock recovery (it worked for me) and flash in the pit file for ur device as well, seems to help somehow...you can try sbl bin but I mean, its just an idea... I lost my laptop so I can't manage going back and forth from friends houses all the time...
few cm12
Bluetooth..pair and connects with some av control. Didn't realize the tab was my PC now. Sending files..-"no bluetooth device found" (while paired or with the extra a/v connection).
Tab turned off, trying to charge under twrp 2.8.2.1, "battery draw jpg cannot load" or sth like that. Not sure what that means but a white one shows charging after the error.
Mobile Odin can't see nor access external SD.
On first install, Google search appears after turning off in launcher settings, open recent apps tab (show up here insteadv big and white), go back and turn on in setting,"heeeyyy, you're here!! Welcome back to my screen..lol".. So its not ICS version I see on the home screen.
Live paper on, turned on Bluetooth first time and device restarts. Surfing over 5 tabs on browser at the same time, restarts. Also, using an app like torrent to download one file while watching a movie (tab get very warm & freezes completely and unresponsive till I keep on power button till it restarts the device)
But I'm only testing all this with a fresh installation and gapp 5 beta 12 nano. I haven't changed any settings at all. Just want to help out with more feedbacks on overall performance.
Most responses to apps opening and closing can be slow in moments where about at least three or four apps have been opened.. So I have to manage an app at a time while clearing my recent apps. And surface a page or two unless with a different browser like UC browser, its okay.
Colors, everything feels cool. Flashed lollipop font and system sounds (don't remember where I got them but I'm sure it was on xda). It sort of felt like I was using the kitkat version that's why I changed them. Runs and feels abit better than my first time install cm12.
I don't know if there are any memory forced to leak but maybe you could hover around to see if something's is abit off about it from what I've said so far.
So between recovery and custom ROM, seems there's some unstable thing going on from within their interactions... I don't know, maybe recovery also needs an update....I guess...?... Well, you're the expert so these are my user experiences so far... Will let you know if anything else comes up
This new lollipop really is different. I can't even tell in the lib files are supposed to be in the apps or lib folder or both when trying out an app like the latest Google camera. I've tried but I only get as far as paranoma and it stops working at photosphere. Sometimes it opens but da circle has no use when the pictures are supposed to be taken. Read from file to file, I must say...I have never been this lost in android...hahahahaha
updating on cm12 issues that could help, hopefully
Lollipop looks light but feels heavy on performance i think cos of how much memory it over-uses.. Maybe its the kernels or sth so I'll wait for what Daniel will help us with to understand more (thank you again Daniel. U're awesome!)
What I noticed today was, when the memories goes to its limits in usage is some areas I think, the tab glitches, slows down abit and restarts if anything else opens... I was only watching a movie series (homeland TV series) from my 32GB SD card, and downloading a ROM from media fire with all my apps closed but the system running. No other recent tabs were opened.. Before I continue, I limited the memory use so between 5mb to 256mb does seem enough unless u r da type that multitasks a lot more (but that should not the case, right?...weird tho). I did this cos when I increased it, with a bit extra apps (about 1 or 2 etrxa apps running), its kept either freezing badly or restarting. So I just had to test this to see if its me or this new OS is going to be hard to work with...
Secondly...I use MX player a lot... Sometimes hardware works but when switched to software decoding and back to hardware, suddenly hardware is not supported unless I close the current video or app itself and start again. But will still fail at hardware decoding and sometimes restarts unexpectedly during software decoding.. Too much info?...haha... Naaah.. Lol
JESUS! The cursor is abit difficult to move around with a huge finger that covers it completely...lol
In case you are wondering,"where did this guy come from"...I assure u, I have been a fan of xda for about a year or two maybe or more cos I remember using my first tab its been almost or over two years. I only recently joined cos android has fascinated me in many ways and by having alot of great customization options and being an open source if I may add... I'm happy old devices get to meet the challenges that people have doubts on.. I'm grateful that I still use some of my old devices with a lot of confidence...
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saeghe3000 said:
hi
I installed this cyanogen rom on my P6800 , but in "Rom Manager" app i couldn't Reboot to Recovery.
when i press "Reboot to Recovery" my tab doesn't reboot!!!!!!!
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Really? How did you install it? And did you do a factory reset after install ROM or clearing cache and dalvik cache? Have u tried a long press on the power button to shutdown first?
As for ROM manager, I can't say for sure I can help u with that but I also noticed some things like mobile odin don't fully run all its functions on my tab p6810 with the p6800 kernal I found for mobile Odin to work o my tab.. I can't see the external SD unless i copy da file I want to use to the internal storage... So cm12 is still a working progress I guess.. Refer to the original cm12 post...Daniel said sth about the we probably will have to end up with our own new custom kernel to use I think due some out dated resources...For now, if no options works for u... If u know how to open the tab gently to take out the battery's connection and back in to enable u go into recovery to do a back up just in case... The u can sort out the ROM properly...and only if ur tab doesn't allow u to shut it down manually... At ur own risk..u can watch YouTube videos on how to handle ur tab p6800 with care when opening..
I've used twrp recovery and cwm recovery (which cwm needs to be rooted before flashing ROM), they all worked well for me so far.. A feww issues I've already pointed out but could be sorted eventually..
I searched da web for info and made a few changes to my build prop. Would share with u if interested...but remember, I'm only using the WiFi version of ur tab..
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I think the last cwm recovery works abit better (if in case u have charging charging issues and don't want to use the original stock recovery).. U flash that and root ur device through the recovery, restart recovery to root or fix root then install cm12 with mini or nano gapps 5.0. Battery draw is missing in ROM but don't worry, it will still charge.
I want to share my super su which I flashed to root the device but I can't get the upload button to pop up any window to find the file on my tab in the system's browser on the cm12. Well, all the same...Good luck!
I wonder if this is what they call a memory leak...
Three words...poor memory management... For an old device, lollipop settings over use tab hardware resources..though its performance is better in terms of gaming.
OK...I said I made a few changes to my build.prop...well, here they are:
#
ro.sf.lcd_density=180
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
#
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=84
dalvik.vm.heapstartsize=7m
dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit=49m
dalvik.vm.heapsize=294m
dalvik.vm.heaptargetutilization=0.72
dalvik.vm.heapminfree=788k
dalvik.vm.heapmaxfree=7m
dalvik.vm.lockprof.threshold=600
These are lines I made changes to (p6810)
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I'm using nova launcher as system launcher
Flash some L fonts and sound I found on YouTube
And boot animation
Just to try get it to feel like lollipop as much as possible..
I notice a white line that flickers between long minutes like about 45mins during a movie playing on my MX player.. It also happens during charging the device when running twrp I guess...i see that on my lockscreen when on landscape mode...don't really know what that means...but I take out the charger for some time and plug it back and it stops for a long while but I switched to cwm.. Da MX player thing still shows though..
I removed that performance tweak app... Can't risk overheating...sorryyyy...I get scared a lot when I know my device hardware has its limits and way of coding to the responsiveness to whatever android versions out there....and I guess it all depends on the hardware make or build period and its sources..
Well, catch ya'll later... Still waiting for kernel and/or some ideas...
Cm file manager don't do much aside from viewing files and folder or install apps..
I tried material manager pro...that too crashes when I try to select everything at once in a folder...have no clue what that means either but will make time for the apps later.. Right now, cm12 needs a good workout till I feel its stable enough for extra updates from Daniel and others who enjoy helping g out....
PEACE!!
tasty lollipop
arrrghhhh! Wish I had an 'F5' button on my Google keyboard!!!
Just messing around..lol... But seriously though, you use it for abit with different apps running and closed...then remove all recent tabs...restart, you have most apps you opened which a lot are related to Google running as background processes......mmmmm....didn't realize the system takes me abit too seriously...Haha
So now, I have 'ccleaner' and 'the cleaner' installed. Ccleaner runs... 561.6mb ram of 770.97mb used. Okaaaay..........analyze....clean processes, empty folders, cache....no changes to memory.....awkward...lol..
Now, 'the cleaner' app- analyze, 197mb or sth to be recovered...nice! - 'clean'.......384.84mb in use...shows in ccleaner....wow!
This is.....sth......
Ok so, system bootup........Google+ and YouTube are background processes.... Sometimes 'music' pops up....weird....I.....don't think I'm ready to dance just yet... But after a while they get tired and leave, leaving YouTube behind.......maybe it wants me to watch xda videos....... Ok, so Google app pops up when I've l've literary stopped all its functions... I haven't force closed it, no no no...well....not yet but I will....
I once saw Google service and Google play service pop up...are they related?
Also, I would like to make guess or assumption; I think it takes abit longer to load everything compared to previous ROMs... Even when its already booted to home screen..
Ok, so some was last night's observations.. I think this gapp is going to make me saaad.
Will use only cm12 without gapp and run the Google apps manually instead to avoid multiple background processes at once...gms core.....interesting and can be quiet a strain...o well.....laterrrrrrr

(Discussion) Latest Android feels Numb, Old, kindish - a bit like Symbian

Hey, am I the only one who feels like each of the latest Android Versions from 4.0.2 until Lollipop were steps backwards?
I remember when i started experimenting with 2.3.5 and there, it was Raw, you could feel that the device got so much more power and possibilities after flashing, par example Cyanogenmod compared to the stock roms.
But i expect now (was one year without Android, sadly) that the latest versions are now so complicated to modificate. On CM7.2 you had so many settings in the Settings section. Now you need to flash a framework (so many frameworks for so many devices, OS, Versions and so on) which are buggy, lagging and device slowing. After the Framwork you look for an APK to be able to download extensions for the framework to chance setting from the system (the version the extension is made doesnt even matter now, because the framworks you flash are so different that the android version kinda doesnt even matter).
Now, we are on 5.1.1 and it feels not true anymore, it is hard to use devices still without google apps, even on CM7. Many apps need a connection to Google, like Snapchat to even work.
The Hardware of devices exploded, is so high now that we don't give a #### about the software anymore. I remember, on my old device HTC Incredible S, we had so many developer who builded over 30 different kernels, changed so many things from the rom, trimmed it, even the code to made them as fast as possible, with every setting you need in the section it fits, many different flashable extras integrated in the rom with an ON/OFF Switch (Now it's more like Aroma gets interesting, but getting always back to Recovery, Flashing the Rom again for some extras?)
I feel like android is lossing itself. What do you think?

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