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Still get OTAs while having ROOT?

If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.

KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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Yes!

SWTR said:
Yes!
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Indeed.

KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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The OTA will download but not install. You need stock recovery AND any system file that is updated by the OTA needs to be stock as well otherwise OTA install will fail.
Plenty of threads on XDA speak of this.
If you look at the OTA updater file you will see if uses MD5 (or similar) to check each system file it updates to make sure its as it was originally.
When you root it alters some system files.
Best thing is to install custom recovery and take a backup before rooted. Then root. When you get an OTA just restore backup and flash stock recovery. Then OTA will re-download. Let it install, then flash custom recovery and re-root.

Thanks, well I'll just stay unrooted and make the best out of it, the Moto G is just as amazing as Motorola developed it to be.

No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.

denzel09 said:
No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.
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Do you mean you downloaded OTA and flashed manually via recovery. You can do that I agree, but what you can't do is let OTA install naturally the way Motorola intended.

No. I had Philz recovery. System stock partition. Downloaded ota normally, reboot like ota update ask, phone reboots in philz recovery and this last flash ota automatically without any problem. There is not need to reflash stock recovery or flash ota update manually with custom rec, only need a non root stock system partition. I dont know if stock cwm or other rec like twrp work in same way but i doubt, always used only philz recovery.

You do not need stock recovery, I don't know who made this stupid rumour up. I use twrp and it flashes fine.
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[Q] A way to root but stay stock so can keep getting OTA s?

(noob) Question: Is there a way to root my OnePlus and keep stock recovery (for now at least) so I can just get the OTA updates? I want to have root so I can use Xposed and LMT but still stay stock. Thanks

scott62185 said:
(noob) Question: Is there a way to root my OnePlus and keep stock recovery (for now at least) so I can just get the OTA updates? I want to have root so I can use Xposed and LMT but still stay stock. Thanks
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yep, just install the drivers, unlock the bootloader, install a recovery (i used twrp), then flash supersu. go over to the android development folder and there are toolkits there. im running stock rooted right now.

you dont have to unlock the bootloader or flash a recovery to root. just run "fastboot boot recovery.img" itll boot the alternative recovery, and you can flash the super user zip from there. it will only boot twrp or cwm but not flash it to the device and will not replace the stock recovery.
unlocking the bootloader just allows you to write to the boot partition and boot different recoveries and kernels from the device. it does set off a tamper flag which could void your warranty. but unlocking is not required for modifying the system partition which is what you are doing when you root.

scott62185 said:
(noob) Question: Is there a way to root my OnePlus and keep stock recovery (for now at least) so I can just get the OTA updates? I want to have root so I can use Xposed and LMT but still stay stock. Thanks
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You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp

inffy said:
You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp
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Oh wow, I didn't know that. Great! Thanks

inffy said:
You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp
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That won't let you keep root, though it's easy to flash SuperSU from TWRP after every OTA.
A solution to OP's problem could be SuperSU Pro which lets you keep root even after OTA updates. I haven't tested it yet but the option is there.

CrashTestDroid said:
That won't let you keep root, though it's easy to flash SuperSU from TWRP after every OTA.
A solution to OP's problem could be SuperSU Pro which lets you keep root even after OTA updates. I haven't tested it yet but the option is there.
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I unlocked my device, then booted into twrp via adb, then flashed supersu but i have no root. the app is installed but i cannot grand titanium backup for example root rights. so the root process did not worked but why? tried it severall times and downloaded everything from scratch sever times. no chance. help me pls..

blax123 said:
I unlocked my device, then booted into twrp via adb, then flashed supersu but i have no root. the app is installed but i cannot grand titanium backup for example root rights. so the root process did not worked but why? tried it severall times and downloaded everything from scratch sever times. no chance. help me pls..
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open the SuperSU app, see if it complains about missing busybox or anything

CrashTestDroid said:
open the SuperSU app, see if it complains about missing busybox or anything
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How do I install busybox?
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Nevermind, I found the solution. I had to disable a Option in SuperSU settings because the CM comes not rooted from out of the box
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inffy said:
You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp
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If I do this, will I lose root upon OTA?

sharp2G said:
If I do this, will I lose root upon OTA?
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No if you have supersu pro installed and have selected the setting to keep root after ota

Will towelroot work on this?

Quinnaay said:
Will towelroot work on this?
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im not sure people have really tried. youre welcome to give it a shot as it says its possibly compatible with everything. but theres already a root method that doesnt require bootloader unlocking and installs supersu which is most peoples favorite root manager.

Towelroot is incredibly simple I get a little nervous otherwise.. Is there a tutorial on the easy alternative, I only want titanium backup to restore my apps from s4 (considering I can do that)

inffy said:
No if you have supersu pro installed and have selected the setting to keep root after ota
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Where is the option to "keep root after OTA" in SU?

I managed to boot the twrp recovery on 4.4.2..but updated to 4.4.4 33R and now it says SU binaries not installed...also cant boot recovery on fastboot as it says need to unlock the bootloader?
Why did update prevent this now?

tofuboi01 said:
I managed to boot the twrp recovery on 4.4.2..but updated to 4.4.4 33R and now it says SU binaries not installed...also cant boot recovery on fastboot as it says need to unlock the bootloader?
Why did update prevent this now?
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Did you untick the option to update CM recovery during your update?

I didnt untick it no, but i never flashed the custom recovery in the first place as i just booted it up from fastboot on 25R, on 33R however its been disabled and requires unlocked bootloader.

inffy said:
You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp
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@inffy,
Hi,
I unlocked bootloader before installing 22R and updated 25, 30, 33 & 38R with OTA from 'System updates' menu. After 38R i flashed TWRP recovery and rooted my phone without unlocking the phone again & its working fine. Perhaps, the we don't need to unlock bootloader again once it unlocked. Can anyone confirm it??

[Q] OTA Update

So Cyanogen sent out the 44R ota today and I am rooted with a custom recovery. My current software version is 38R android 4.4.4. So in order to do the ota:
1. I need to go into SuperSU and do the permanant unroot.
2. Reboot
3. Flash stock recovery.
So for step 3 I downloaded the 38R stock firmware from cygen's site. Can I extract it and flash just the recovery? Will this work?

skyguy126 said:
So Cyanogen sent out the 44R ota today and I am rooted with a custom recovery. My current software version is 38R android 4.4.4. So in order to do the ota:
1. I need to go into SuperSU and do the permanant unroot.
2. Reboot
3. Flash stock recovery.
So for step 3 I downloaded the 38R stock firmware from cygen's site. Can I extract it and flash just the recovery? Will this work?
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You don't need to do any of that. No unrooting is required. You can flash the OTA with a custom recovery. All you need to do is initiate the update process through your Settings menu.
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I'll try that next time but I used my method and it worked fine

skyguy126 said:
I'll try that next time but I used my method and it worked fine
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Of course it did, but what I'm saying is it's completely unnecessary to do all that.
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timmaaa, what do you mean with
All you need to do is initiate the update process through your Settings menu.
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with rooted OPO, custom recovery and xposed i don't can flash the regular OTA right? i need to take the modified OTA and uninstall xposed? is this the correct way?

RotesMeerJogger said:
timmaaa, what do you mean with
with rooted OPO, custom recovery and xposed i don't can flash the regular OTA right? i need to take the modified OTA and uninstall xposed? is this the correct way?
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If you uninstall Xposed you can use the normal OTA. If you don't want to uninstall Xposed you can use the modified OTA. The custom recovery and root make no difference either way.
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hey thank you very much timmaaa! works perfect after update i only need root again

Thanks for the help everyone!

Sometime CM12"s"

Hello all.
In a few days we will have CM12 "S" or oxygen os 12
For OnePlus one root with custom recovery how we do for a clean install and keep root?
Update for OTA or instal whith recovery?
Thanks for answers

You can't keep root during an OTA. Just take the update and then flash SuperSU again afterwards to get root back.
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Thanks, but i keep my custom recovery?

Jjul said:
Thanks, but i keep my custom recovery?
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Yes, as long as you have "update cm recovery" disabled in Developer Options.
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Ok. I enable this option to install TWRP.
When the update will be available I accept it and installs it.
After I done parameter factory and I install su on market.
With this method i keep my root and TWRP
Thanks

Question Flash official MIUI Update and keep TWRP custom recovery?

Hello,
I recently got this new phone, unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP and rooted via Magisk.
I was on MIUI V12.5.3.0.RJUMIXM and had no OTA update available on my phone. I saw the V12.5.5.0.RJUMIXM in the MIUI Update Thread, so I downloaded and installed it. After flashing, my TWRP was gone, so I had to reinstall it via FastBoot.
Question: is there a way to keep TWRP Recovery when flashing official updates via TWRP? For example flash update and then flash TWRP again?
Another question: will I get official updates OTA when I have TWRP installed/bootloader unlocked? Or do I have to download and flash it manually every time?
Thanks in advance, kind regards
cavin

Official MIUI will restore its recovery. AFAIK, theres no way to keep your recovery.
You should consider installing xiaomi.eu

Lu5ck said:
Official MIUI will restore its recovery. AFAIK, theres no way to keep your recovery.
You should consider installing xiaomi.eu
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Very strange that for me evry time i flash official MIUI(12.5.3 for exemple) my Orange fox recovery don't disappear ,i don't know about TWRP.
cavinrocks said:
Hello,
I recently got this new phone, unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP and rooted via Magisk.
I was on MIUI V12.5.3.0.RJUMIXM and had no OTA update available on my phone. I saw the V12.5.5.0.RJUMIXM in the MIUI Update Thread, so I downloaded and installed it. After flashing, my TWRP was gone, so I had to reinstall it via FastBoot.
Question: is there a way to keep TWRP Recovery when flashing official updates via TWRP? For example flash update and then flash TWRP again?
Another question: will I get official updates OTA when I have TWRP installed/bootloader unlocked? Or do I have to download and flash it manually every time?
Thanks in advance, kind regards
cavin
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You should try Orange fox recovery and see it it remains.

Antonio7489 said:
Very strange that for me evry time i flash official MIUI(12.5.3 for exemple) my Orange fox recovery don't disappear ,i don't know about TWRP.
You should try Orange fox recovery and see it it remains.
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It will disappear during MIUI update, at least that is what I remembered.

Lu5ck said:
It will disappear during MIUI update, at least that is what I remembered.
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No, it will not disappear if you are using OrangeFox.

Lu5ck said:
Official MIUI will restore its recovery. AFAIK, theres no way to keep your recovery.
You should consider installing xiaomi.eu
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Thx everyone, I switched to xiaomi.eu ROM and TWRP-3.5.2-0 [vayu][bhima][R][11], works perfect.