Anyone else have an issue? I use Zoomplayer and I have ffdshow. I didn't know anything was left to not be playable!
Check what codec it wants with Gspot(http://www.headbands.com/gspot/)
For a player you can try MediaPlayerClassic(http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=84358&release_id=403110) or get MPC included with a pretty robust codec pack CCCP(http://www.cccp-project.net/download.php?type=cccp)
As a last resort try VLC(http://www.videolan.org/vlc/) it plays pretty much anything, but not always in an optimized way
FFDShow can play TouchPro/Fuze videos, but it may not be configured to recognize the files by default.
GSpot reports video: MP4V, and audio: AMR.
Look under your start menu for the link to ffdshow config (eg: Start > Programs > ffdshow > ... or CCCP > Filters > ... if you use that pack)
Choose FFDShow Audio Decoder Configuration
→ Under the Codecs category, look for AMR and set Decoder to libavcodec.
Then choose FFDShow Video Decoder Configuration
→ Under the Codecs category, look for Other MPEG4 (you will see MP4V noted in the FourCC) and set Decoder to libavcodec
Close ZoomPlayer (or MPC, which I highly recommend), and reload. FFDShow will now properly decode and play the videos.
Man I hate the nightmare over which player to use. I used to use only MPC, but people told me it had inferior video quality and/or couldn't support 5.1.
If you're using the default video format (.mp4), here's a trick that will usually play the video on a PC using Quicktime.
Change the .mp4 file extension to .3gp.
In the advanced menu on the video camera, you can also change the capture format to H.263 and those files seem to play fine on my PC without any changes.
thehyecircus said:
Man I hate the nightmare over which player to use. I used to use only MPC, but people told me it had inferior video quality and/or couldn't support 5.1.
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Technically MPC isn't a factor when it comes to video quality or support for additional features. Video/audio quality depends on the filters/decoders being used (such as ffdshow, coreavc, powerdvd, etc). Support for extra features comes from splitters (such as Haali Media Splitter, which will tell MPC how to read/playback different kinds of data in a file) and other kinds of filters (such as directvobsub for rendering subtitles).
MPC is pretty much just a GUI that lets you control all those splitters/filters. Without any splitters/filters, MPC is pretty useless, and the default filters would use (that are included in Windows) are indeed pretty low-quality. But ffdshow is one of the best quality decoders out there.
Just for reference, ZoomPlayer is also a good player which uses the same splitters/filters to play media files--it's just a matter of GUI preference. The CCCP package is popular because it includes both MPC and ZoomPlayer as well as the best (non-commercial) splitters and filters like Haali and ffdshow.
If you're interested in getting more information, this is a good start:
http://www.cccp-project.net/wiki/index.php?title=Media_Players
Hopefully this isn't too far off-topic
Is H.263 a poor video quality? I can open it with Media Player and I installed the CCCP, but it takes a while to open my original video file for some reason. And I'd rather never use Quicktime, in fact The CCCP site had me uninstall it. But anyway - does H.263 matter compared to MPEG4? What can I do to have my next video file not be such a pain?
"Choose FFDShow Audio Decoder Configuration
→ Under the Codecs category, look for AMR and set Decoder to libavcodec.
Then choose FFDShow Video Decoder Configuration
→ Under the Codecs category, look for Other MPEG4 (you will see MP4V noted in the FourCC) and set Decoder to libavcodec"
I am going to do that now. I would have done it before, but I did not have those files.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.263
There's a lot of rude and ignorant posters on this site, aren't there? I went to the Wiki page first thing - and guess what, there's no information. So *gasp* I asked here. Directing me backwards won't help.
It's pretty complicated so I'll just try to keep it simple:
MP4V is just an identifier for MPEG-4 video. There's a lot of technical stuff behind MPEG-4 codecs concerning quality, but I would say it's safe to assume the Fuze/TouchPro uses just the simple profiles (optimized for handhelds). H.263 is quite simply just an older codec but is similarly intended for handhelds. MPEG-4 technically can offer much better quality, but the Fuze/TouchPro does not let you change the codec's internal settings (since it's built-in to the camera app and/or camera chip).
So whether one codec is better than the other isn't clear; you'll just have to test both modes and see which one you prefer (but at 320x240, I doubt the difference will be very noticable). If the quality is almost the same, the other significant factor is that one codec may produce smaller files.
Hope that helps.
Hello
I'm trying to convert video to Android compatible format (mp4 H.264). My phone: HTC Hero. Because of available video filters I would like to use Avidemux for this purpose. There are several tutorials with settings for Avidemux. I have tried lots of them but I am receiving files which cannot be played with hardware decoding. I have experimented with different settings and encoders. MPEG-4 AVC should be the right one (H.264) but I receive only unplayable files. MPEG-4 ASP (avcodec) is giving playable output, but quality is poor. When I try to rise bitrate I receive big files with rather medium quality. I have tried also some custom scripts, settings for IPhone, for Playstation Portable and nothing.
Nowadays I am encoding video with Avidemux (+ filters like contrast, size, crop,
adding hard subtitles etc.) and then I am doing second conversion with Handbrake (IPhone & IPod Touch settings). This way I have video which is playable but I have do encode it twice. Far from optimal.
Does anyone knows which settings should be used in Avidemux to get mp4 playable on Andriod phone?
is is possible to boost sound....as v can boost sound in some video editor apps.
...also i have another problem....i cannot play 720p mp4 video propely in my s duos 7562 with sw also....it play but sound stop for 2-3 socond n then again countinoue... video plays almost fyn..........360p quality mp4 play fine without problem...so plz add hd support for s duos...
Sometimes with volume in 200% sound is terrible but it should be added just in case, there are more people asking for it.
For 720p playback, this is not due to mx player, this is a hardware issue. Your phone doesnt support 720p playback, maybe if video bitrate is low, maybe in that case your phone will play 720p flawless!
hmn.............
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Sometimes with volume in 200% sound is terrible but it should be added just in case, there are more people asking for it.
For 720p playback, this is not due to mx player, this is a hardware issue. Your phone doesnt support 720p playback, maybe if video bitrate is low, maybe in that case your phone will play 720p flawless!
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bro i think in setting their should be sound boost option ..so whoever require they can boost sound(as everone like high sound nowadays)....also mx player by itsself cannot slowdown bitrate for particular hd video while playing?? so it can be possible to play hd ...
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bro i think in setting their should be sound boost option ..so whoever require they can boost sound(as everone like high sound nowadays)....also mx player by itsself cannot slowdown bitrate for particular hd video while playing?? so it can be possible to play hd ...
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Well, it could be added soon but its not a priority now.
There is no way a player can low the bitrate of a video on android or pc, you will have to use a converter on the pc or mediaencoder on your phone.
Your phone doesnt have the capabilities to play high bitrates videos.
A video player app cannot reduce the bitrate of a video. You would have to do this by re-encoding the video on your computer.
But yeah as josuearisty said, if your phone can't use HW or HW+ to play 720p, then it's because the device hardware doesn't support it. The Duos would not be powerful enough to play 720p without hardware support.
Hi, Recently I've downloaded video 1080p from youtube but when playing it, the video laggy but the audio just playing properly fine...
I thought it because the decoder set to H/W, but when switched to S/W both video & audio become laggy, then try switched to H/W+ it become worse (doesn't support this kind video it says...).
When I see media info of video, it use VP9 format video.
Here is the video: www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=aE2GCa-_nyU
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
Is it something like bugs so the video didn't play properly? Or android can't play video with format VP9 properly?
Because I've tried other video 1080p, it can be played properly.
Oh FYI, I've tried using few other video player, and none of its can play the video as good as MX Player. That's why I've been using MX Player as default video player.
Hope there will be improvement on the next update so the video VP9 1080p can be played properly
MX Player is the best
All 1080p videos are not same.
It may lag at various parameters like higher frame rate, bitrate, color depth,....etc.
For example if you consider a video 1080p @ 30fps inorder to display 1 sec of videos it needs to decode 30 frames. Where as in 1080p @ 60 fps it requires 60 frames to be decoded. So, It will require the double power. Like wise various encoding parameters matters in video playback.
Second, H/W uses your hardware's native decoder . If the codec is natively supported by your device, H/W decoder will be the best option.
In case of S/W decoder, it supports more video formats since it depends on the ffmpeg. But, decoding will be completely done one CPU. So, it needs very high cpu power. That's why it's more laggy.
Night.Lurker said:
Hi, Recently I've downloaded video 1080p from youtube but when playing it, the video laggy but the audio just playing properly fine...
I thought it because the decoder set to H/W, but when switched to S/W both video & audio become laggy, then try switched to H/W+ it become worse (doesn't support this kind video it says...).
When I see media info of video, it use VP9 format video.
Here is the video: www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=aE2GCa-_nyU
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
Is it something like bugs so the video didn't play properly? Or android can't play video with format VP9 properly?
Because I've tried other video 1080p, it can be played properly.
Oh FYI, I've tried using few other video player, and none of its can play the video as good as MX Player. That's why I've been using MX Player as default video player.
Hope there will be improvement on the next update so the video VP9 1080p can be played properly
MX Player is the best
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VP9 isn't a widely supported format. That's likely why HW and HW+ don't work well with it; most devices don't have VP9 hardware acceleration.
SW rendering of a 1080p video is very demanding. Even on the most powerful devices, since there's no hardware acceleration, expect performance to be sub-par. Currently, devices on the market can only SW render 720p smoothly.
This being said, for SW mode, try Settings > Decoder > use speedup tricks. See if that helps a little bit on SW.
Ultimately, the best option is to reencode the video to something like H264/AVC mp4.
VP9 on KitKat+
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
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Can you explain more where you're trying to playback the video? VP9 support is built in to Android from KitKat+ and should not have an issue playing back. Additionally, can you try playing back the video on Chrome on Android and see if there are still decode issues?
Thanks.
ktsamy said:
All 1080p videos are not same.
It may lag at various parameters like higher frame rate, bitrate, color depth,....etc.
For example if you consider a video 1080p @ 30fps inorder to display 1 sec of videos it needs to decode 30 frames. Where as in 1080p @ 60 fps it requires 60 frames to be decoded. So, It will require the double power. Like wise various encoding parameters matters in video playback.
Second, H/W uses your hardware's native decoder . If the codec is natively supported by your device, H/W decoder will be the best option.
In case of S/W decoder, it supports more video formats since it depends on the ffmpeg. But, decoding will be completely done one CPU. So, it needs very high cpu power. That's why it's more laggy.
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VP9 isn't a widely supported format. That's likely why HW and HW+ don't work well with it; most devices don't have VP9 hardware acceleration.
SW rendering of a 1080p video is very demanding. Even on the most powerful devices, since there's no hardware acceleration, expect performance to be sub-par. Currently, devices on the market can only SW render 720p smoothly.
This being said, for SW mode, try Settings > Decoder > use speedup tricks. See if that helps a little bit on SW.
Ultimately, the best option is to reencode the video to something like H264/AVC mp4.
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I see... So the point is the problem because most devices don't have VP9 hardware accelaration yet, especially for 1080p VP9...
Well... I've tried using SW speed up trick, it didn't much help...
Yeah...maybe the best option is to reencode the video to H264...or download 720p version..., cause the 720p VP9 can be played perfectly fine.
Still... I hope the MX Player developer team has plan to improve playback for 1080p VP9 video
Btw thanks for your answer bro
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Can you explain more where you're trying to playback the video? VP9 support is built in to Android from KitKat+ and should not have an issue playing back. Additionally, can you try playing back the video on Chrome on Android and see if there are still decode issues?
Thanks.
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As I said before, I'm trying to play 1080p VP9 video (that I've downloaded from youtube using IDM on computer) on my Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, & LG G2 using MX Player.
But when I playing it, the video is laggy on all devices...
Surely you can streaming it using youtube app & chrome android and it plays well till the end cause the available quality option in those apps is up to 720p (the 1080p quality option is hidden on those apps so I can't select it to test if it plays well or not).
Night.Lurker said:
Still... I hope the MX Player developer team has plan to improve playback for 1080p VP9 video
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That would be something you would have to ask the ffmpeg team to do, since MX uses their codecs. Unless the MX dev has a magic trick up his sleeve, I don't think there's much else MX can do to further improve SW playback performance for a video that exceeds the CPU's capabilities...
Likewise, on a hardware acceleration, it's limited by the hardwaree put in place by the manufacturer... so this aspect would need a new device.
Hi, i bumping this thread because i encountered the issue on some youtube vids too, but it's mostly playing fine, i think that with a few updates it will be good my phone is getting hot fast though.. (oneplus one)
VP9 1440p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNNfZuIA1GQ : fine
VP9 1080p with a lot of "motion" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGyZY4HNumw a bit laggy
I think I have already answered.
Read the second post. Video encoding parameters matters.
If you can't play in H/W or H/W+ decoder, Don't expect the smooth playback on S/W. It fully depends on CPU. If is laggy then your processor is not powerful enough. Sometime enabling the speed up tricks may reduce the lagging.
One more thing, using CPU will drain your battery faster than H/W. When CPU runs it's maximum speed for long time it will emit more heat which may lead to issues.
ktsamy said:
I think I have already answered.
Read the second post. Video encoding parameters matters.
If you can't play in H/W or H/W+ decoder, Don't expect the smooth playback on S/W. It fully depends on CPU. If is laggy then your processor is not powerful enough. Sometime enabling the speed up tricks may reduce the lagging.
One more thing, using CPU will drain your battery faster than H/W. When CPU runs it's maximum speed for long time it will emit more heat which may lead to issues.
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Okay thank you. Then i hope new processors will have vp9 decoding h/w
coc014 said:
Okay thank you. Then i hope new processors will have vp9 decoding h/w
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The chance of that happening, I can't see to be high. The MPEG consortium probably pays a lot to lobby chipset makers to only support MPEG formats, such as H.264 and H.265.
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The MPEG consortium probably pays a lot to lobby chipset makers to only support MPEG formats, such as H.264 and H.265.
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Lolno, it's just that industry is not interested in VP9. Even if they don't have to pay royalties they still have to develop asics (and h/w engineers are saying that it's not h/w friendly) and include them into the chip. It still costs a lot.
And what is the point of supporting vp9? It's an ugly google toy that they're ready to abandon (say hello to vp10 in 2015).
Ah yes, ASICs. I don't think manufacturers would be very happy at making more dies for new ICs. They already aren't happy with being forced to support Hi10p in H.265.
Forced? I would be happy if they were forced, but, at least Qualcomm, have no plans whatsoever
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Forced? I would be happy if they were forced, but, at least Qualcomm, have no plans whatsoever
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Well, this sucks. Looks like we'll be waiting another generation... Where did you find that support chart?
Edit: We should move this discussion to the 10-bit thread. I'm going to quote you over there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/app...layer-10-bit-video-discussion-t2725241/page12
abput supporting vp9 1080p and undeleting files in mx player p higher andrpid version
first of all:
"Most probably you’re on Android marshmallow 6.0 API. If you’re trying to delete a video that is located on the external storage then its not possible due to some bug in the file system and mx player.
If you’re on the internal storage then MX player has only read only rights on the directory on which you’re currently on."
or just delete on your internal system file manager application.
Second answer about playng videos vp9
becayse you can't play vp9 if you download youtube videos with IDM (internet download manager)
because it is bull**** and its newer versions used idmmkvlib.01 codec.so when downloadimg it not only download andit convert into ist bull**** special format.so won't play withx pr others.try another downloader or manual download yt videos i recomend.