Edge + DPI settings = problem - Note Edge Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This is more a request/plea for help to devs than a question, but basically, I've been playing around with adjusting the DPI (using Xposed + App Settings) of my Edge for 'bout 2 days straight now and because of the way Edge Panels/Cocktailbar service interact with the rest of the UI, it's been a rather rough 2 days. To summarize my findings:
1) Changing the DPI of Android System also adjusts the width of the area allocated to the Edge. *
2) Changing the DPI of cocktailbarservice ONLY changes how various panels are stacked together. *
3) Changing the DPI of individual panels ONLY changes the total size of the panel UI but NOT the area it's allocated. *
*These are all rather confusing so the screenshots below should clear things up.
I'll be working with 6 different things here:
a) Android System
b) Cocktailbar service (com.samsung.android.app.cocktailbarservice)
c) EdgeBoard panel (com.yotsumo.edgeboard)
d) Briefing panel (com.samsung.android.app.catchme)
e) RAM Usage Manager panel (com.samsung.android.app.ramusagemanager)
f) Quick tools panel (com.samsung.android.cocktailbar.quicktool
To simplify things, I'll be changing between only two DPIs: 640 (stock) and 320. Each set of screenshots will be labeled with the letters a-f. Uppercase means it's set at 640. Lowercase means it's set at 320. Also, remember that if you want to reproduce any of these for yourself, that "Apply res to widgets" must be checked for all DPI-adjusted Edge panels.
Set 1 - ABcdef
http://imgur.com/a/BmBTw
Set 2 - AbCDEF
http://imgur.com/a/kh8Y6 (Imgur REALLY doesn't like two of the screenshots here. Just ignore them. You get the point.)
Set 3 - aBCDEF
http://imgur.com/a/74hLH
You can do a few dozen more combinations (well 61), but I the pattern should be clear now. Setting it to abcdef (all 320) does result in an non-glitchy, usable, and thinner panel, but even then, only the EdgeBoard panel (of what I've downloaded) properly adjusts to the full length. The others just leave a blank space under them.
Now what I personally think (and hopefully some of you here will agree with me) would be optimal is if we could adjust the size of the allocated panel area as well as the size of the panel itself, independent of the Android System's DPI (320 works great for me on just about everything, but the Edge panel at this point is WAY too narrow). Could this be implemented somehow either through some hacking away at internals or perhaps an elegant Xposed Module? See link for what my screen looks like currently: http://imgur.com/XpvjkMD

thanks for this post i was looking for this,i am thinking of picking up a note edge next week.i am currently using a note 3 with many modifications like darklord rom 5.0.1 ,360dpi(stock 480),v4a ,system ui mods,about 25 xposed modules etc.
so what about changing the per app dpi like just changing system ui or whatsapp messenger and others?? does it affect the side screen(edge)???i will use nova launcher and definitely not tw launcher.
i saw v4a on screenshots.so its working fine in normal mode with everything convoler??
i am curious because i will be selling my note 3 to go for the edge, so is it worth getting edge and can do all customizations or i must stick with note 4?
thanks.

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[Q] Which environment allows to use small fonts, and ignores DPI ?

My old phone has a 4.3" screen, 544x960; the new one is 4.75, 1080x1920. The new phone is about 15% larger, and has 4 times more pixels; but, bue I read emails, or navigate in menus (like parameters), the new phones shows 10% less text and entries (up to 20% less). Both phones have the font set to small. I have compared Android system menus (like params) and setting menu in apps (same app on both). And in every single test case, the large screen shows less than the small one.
Stupid question: is it possible to ask Android to ignore DPI, and use really small fonts so that I don't have just 4 or 5 menu entries per screen, but rather 10-15 ?
Serious questions: which environment would allow me to custom graphical settings ? which ROM ?
I use ADW; it's a good start, but it's just a Launcher. It does not help for system menus, and menus in apps.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theSushi.dpichanger
Changed from 480, to 390 ... and I am wonderfully happy !!!
The app is tricky to use; think 5 times before you "go". Read carefully options in the menu.
After entering a value, before clicking go, you need to select an entry in the menu on the left of go; the menu is hardly visible; bad contrast; i will complain to author.

Display size menu option

On my OnePlus 3T and my S7 Edge, there is an option in the Display settings that allows me to adjust the overall display size. It will reduce or increase the look and size of the entire display (smaller text, icons, menus). Does anyone know if the Mate 9 has the same menu, or anything similar?
tsquare2112 said:
On my OnePlus 3T and my S7 Edge, there is an option in the Display settings that allows me to adjust the overall display size. It will reduce or increase the look and size of the entire display (smaller text, icons, menus). Does anyone know if the Mate 9 has the same menu, or anything similar?
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If you enable that developer options, there is an option labeled "Smallest width", changing that will adjust the dpi and scale everything smaller or bigger.
Saythis said:
If you enable that developer options, there is an option labeled "Smallest width", changing that will adjust the dpi and scale everything smaller or bigger.
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Thanks! I'll give it a try tomorrow.
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Thanks! I'll give it a try tomorrow.
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FYI...The bigger the number, the smaller everything gets. It's the opposite of changing the density in the build prop. I personally like to leave my display size at large and set the smallest width value to 500.
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tsquare2112 said:
On my OnePlus 3T and my S7 Edge, there is an option in the Display settings that allows me to adjust the overall display size. It will reduce or increase the look and size of the entire display (smaller text, icons, menus). Does anyone know if the Mate 9 has the same menu, or anything similar?
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In the settings menu, you tap...display then tap view mode. Then you can choose large, medium or small. I personally like changing the smallest width in developer settings.
Maybe is it possible to get tablet ui working here? Tryed to change dpi through dev options, but nothing, if i even set it to 600.
On Nexus 6p, i put that on 590 and had tablet ui in apps working.
You can just change it in the display mode setting no need to mess about I have it on small
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Esterra said:
Maybe is it possible to get tablet ui working here? Tryed to change dpi through dev options, but nothing, if i even set it to 600.
On Nexus 6p, i put that on 590 and had tablet ui in apps working.
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I could get a quasi tablet looking interface for gmail app using a dpi of 800. By tablet looking interface I mean that, besides the usual list of emails, some of the options you get by swiping to right from left edge were present on the screen without swiping. For example I now had the option to switch email provider, (from gmail to aol) without swiping. The problem is that changing dpi to 800 hosed "settings". It would crash if I tried to open it. Fortunately the dpi did not stick when I rebooted. For those that use Dolphin browser, by changing dpi to 480 (from the default 432) you can get a 4 by 4 grid of icons for speed dial (instead of the 3 by 3 that comes by default setting of dpi).
Personally, I would not want my global dpi to be 800. I would just want certain apps to run with higher dpi. Normally I do this with the Xposed module App Settings. But, as AFAIK, that is not possible on nougat at this point. If someone knows how to modify an app to change it's individual dpi setting please do chime in!

Screen text size too large even with settings on small

Anyone else noticed for such a large display the text is overly large, see pics & YouTube clip I have the Samsung tab S 10.5 & more text is filled on the screen than the Huawei 10.8" display (even the nexus 10 shows more text) & that's with the Text size & view mode set to small because of this I would end up scrolling more. This is making me think twice about getting the tablet. The one I reviewed is my parents.
Does not help that the max home screen grid is only 6x5 where as the Samsung tab is 8x6 which is better.
in the landscape picture it mostly is because of the navigation bar you dont need wth the tab s.
I agree with it being slightly less dense than your parents tab s but I only have a old notebook as a comparison (with 1366&768 resolution) and am perfectly happy with the tablet. I suppose this could be changed with a custom rom though.
Edit: btw if it is just the browser you can adjust the scale. in firefox go to about:config and search for font.size.systemFontScale. I've got it on 70 instead of 100 and can fit a lot more content.
First of all which OS is the Tab S running. Is it the old WebView which comes as separate App, or does it already have the new WebView which is integrated into Chrome. Seems as if it is the old one on the Tab S.
Regarding the Launcher grid well yeah EMUI is different to TouchWiz, less rows and columns on the grid, but less lag fest as well. If you want to obtain more rows and columns on the grid change the launcher let's say to Nova Launcher Prime.
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Increase value in system - > dev options - > smallest width
Surethom said:
Anyone else noticed for such a large display the text is overly large, see pics & YouTube clip I have the Samsung tab S 10.5 & more text is filled on the screen than the Huawei 10.8" display (even the nexus 10 shows more text) & that's with the Text size & view mode set to small because of this I would end up scrolling more. This is making me think twice about getting the tablet. The one I reviewed is my parents.
Increase value in system - > dev options - > smallest width
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Increase value in system - > dev options - > smallest width
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I agree, I've done the same. For me, it's the non text items that are far too big. It feels like they've taken the 8.4" tablet and just scaled everything up.
I use a value of 950 - if you go smaller than that, the settings pages can become unusable. Note that this gets set on a restart, so you have to go back to Developer Options and set the value again. Still, how often do you reboot the tablet?

Android 11 for Fold 2

Does anyone have a port of a rom from say the S20 for Android 11 on the Fold 2 I want those new features.
Would have been nice if Samsung did a Android 11 beta with the Fold 2 as well and not just the S20.
I hear you. You would think Samsung's most expensive phone would get the best service. Samsung should have a team working to get it out FIRST. I know they had to make some major changes, but Android 11 adds a lot of the multi screen stuff native.
Samsung said the the phone needs extra attention so it will be later. (From a Samsung Tweet).
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Does anyone have a port of a rom from say the S20 for Android 11 on the Fold 2 I want those new features.
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Let the S20 owners "test" all the bugs in the beta and give us Fold2 owners a stable build for Xmas
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Would have been nice if Samsung did a Android 11 beta with the Fold 2 as well and not just the S20.
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The Note line doesn't even get the beta.
It's simply because the S20 series phones have the largest user base, so it makes sense to target them for the best possible and consistent bug reporting.
Samsung users don't really see the huge benefits of each iteration of Android, because generally new features have already appeared within OneUI. Seems Google take on cool Samsung features each year
So I am much more interested in what OneUI 3.0 is going to bring to the table (following info is from September 2020, so more features and amendments are likely since this release):
One UI 3.0 based on Android 11 – Beta Changelog September 2020
Home screen
Touch and hold an app to add an associated widget
Turn the screen off by double-tapping on an empty are of the Home screen. You can turn this on in Settings > Advanced features > Motion and gestures.
Lock screen
Dynamic Lock screen now has more categories,, and you can select more than one.
Lock screen widgets are improved.
Quick panel
See your conversations and media more conveniently in their own sections when you swipe down from the top of the screen.
AOD
Always On Display widgets are improved.
Accessibility
Get quick access to the most important accessibility settings during device setup.
Get recommended accessibility features based on what you use.
Set the Accessibility shortcut more easily in settings.
Sound detectors now work with your SmartThings devices such as TVs and lights to give you more visible alerts when the doorbell rings or a baby is crying.
Samsung Keyboard
You can find the keyboard in settings more easily under General management in Settings, and the settings have been reorganized to put the most important ones first.
Samsung DeX
You can now connect to supported TVs wirelessly.
New touchpad multi-gestures let you change screen zoom and font size more easily.
Internet
Added ability to block websites from redirecting you when you tap the Back button.
Added warnings and blocking options for websites that shot too many pop-ups or notifications.
Rearranged menus to make things easier to find.
Added several new add-ons, including one that translates websites.
Added option hide the status bar for a more immersive browsing experience.
Increased maximum number of open tabs to 99.
Added ability to lock and reorder tabs.
Improved design for tab bar which is now supported on all devices.
Ended support for Samsung Internet edge panel.
Contacts & Phone
Added the ability to edit multiple linked contacts at one time.
Added an option to help you quickly delete duplicate contacts.
Enhanced the search experience.
Extended the storage period of the Trash bin from 15 to 30 days.
Phone/Call background
Added the ability to customize the call screen with your own pictures and videos.
Messages
Created a Trash bin to store recently deleted messages.
Call & Text on other devices
Added the ability to turn Call & text on other devices on or off with Bixby Routines.
Calendar
Events with the same start time are now shown together in month and agenda view.
Reorganized options for adding and editing events.
Improved layout for full screen alerts.
Reminder
Improved layout for full screen alerts
Digital wellbeing and Parental controls
Added trends to your weekly report. You can see how your usage has changed since the previous week and check your usage time for each feature.
Added phone usage time while driving to the weekly report.
Added a lock screen widget so you can check your screen time without unlocking your phone.
Added separate profiles for personal and work modes so you can track your screen time separately.
Camera
Improved auto-focus and auto exposure functionality and usability.
Improved stabilization when taking pictures of the moon at high zoom levels.
Photo editor
Added the ability to revert edited pictures back to their original versions.
Bixby Routine
Grouped preset routines help you get started quickly and learn how to build your own routines easily.
You can now see what actions are reversed when a routine ends.
New conditions have been added, such as a specific start time, the disconnection of a Bluetooth device or Wi-Fi network, a call from a specific number, and more.
New actions have been added, including talking to Bixby and accessibility actions.
You can add a customized icon for each routine and add routines to the Lock screen for quick access.
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Hex Themes users have to think that way used for theme installation is hacky. There is a big chance new iteration of OneUI will block it and there will be no way to apply it any more.
I wish OneUI would let you use Icon Packs from the Google Play Store, like OxygenOS on 1+ phone does. These icons from the Samsung Theme store are pretty terrible and they dont cover as many icon as the Icon Packs do.
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I wish OneUI would let you use Icon Packs from the Google Play Store, like OxygenOS on 1+ phone does. These icons from the Samsung Theme store are pretty terrible and they dont cover as many icon as the Icon Packs do.
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It can be initially tedious but using Nova Launcher allows you to customize your icons. So if you have some preferred set of icons (even like iOS ones from the JB community) you can manually apply them and save a back up.
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It can be initially tedious but using Nova Launcher allows you to customize your icons. So if you have some preferred set of icons (even like iOS ones from the JB community) you can manually apply them and save a back up.
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The problem is that Nova forces the cover display to mimic the main display layout, which forced either poor use of the real estate on the main display, or extremely cramped cover display. On top of that, Nova + native gestures don't work too well and is a bit buggy. I've learned to appreciate Samsung's default home and use GoodLock + hex to make small changes.
But if OneUI were to allow us to use icon packs from the play store - I'd be absolutely besotted and would never even think about using Nova again. I hate ugly icons so much that I'm using Samsung's browser (which admittedly isn't bad at all since it works well on the Fold 2) because I hate looking at Google's ugly icon on my dock. I'll occasionally use Nova since it's already setup, but I miss bug-free native gestures + the awesome animations that come with the stock launcher.
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It can be initially tedious but using Nova Launcher allows you to customize your icons. So if you have some preferred set of icons (even like iOS ones from the JB community) you can manually apply them and save a back up.
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I would use Action Launcher, but it doesn't work that well on this phone.
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The problem is that Nova forces the cover display to mimic the main display layout, which forced either poor use of the real estate on the main display, or extremely cramped cover display. On top of that, Nova + native gestures don't work too well and is a bit buggy. I've learned to appreciate Samsung's default home and use GoodLock + hex to make small changes.
But if OneUI were to allow us to use icon packs from the play store - I'd be absolutely besotted and would never even think about using Nova again. I hate ugly icons so much that I'm using Samsung's browser (which admittedly isn't bad at all since it works well on the Fold 2) because I hate looking at Google's ugly icon on my dock. I'll occasionally use Nova since it's already setup, but I miss bug-free native gestures + the awesome animations that come with the stock launcher.
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I'm looking into cloning KLWP as I've heard you can use a separate Preset on the cover so as not to have the issue you spoke about (& still use Nova).
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Question Is it possible to get low DPI on most apps, while having default on things like Tiles.

So i really like the DPI at 200, it means I can see more than 4 lines of a text message and dont need to scroll for days to get to options in most apps, but having the GW4 on dpi 200 is a mess, the tiles are just shrunk down and attempting to work in the top left quarter of the watch while sometimes elements from them(like weather) will try to centre making things overlap and ruin the visuals.
Is there any way I can have my low DPI without having janky tiles? am I just choosing bad DPI numbers with the ones I have tried and that is what is causing it? Preferably id like to be able to choose the DPI per app but I assume that isnt possible
Let me put it this way. You use android smartphones for some time, right ? At last 8 years, right ? Have ever seen in any android phone dynamically adjusted DPI per app ?
I'm not sure if it's possible to change DPI per app via ADB, but you should be able to decompile each APK and manually set the DPI in Android Studio. It could be a lot of work if you want to customize a lot of apps, but it's an option if it's important to you.
TacoDeMuerte said:
but you should be able to decompile each APK and manually set the DPI in Android Studio.
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I am not shure if it is move in the right direction. Lets say you rework app to 100 dpi BUT display will still work in 200 dpi. So the visual will be distorted.
This is not Windows where app can set display of the monitor to required resolution.
I don't know per app but you can increase or decrease all on your SW4.

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