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Hey! I'm new to the forums and just got a Skyrocket this week.
I was just wondering if its possible to force the LTE signal to HSPA only or even Edge/3g?
Looks like the LTE radio is locked pretty tight. Anyone out there find a method to bypass this? I've tried the administrative menus in the Phone Information menu and even some of the Apps in the market LTE on/off and nothing seems to work.
Thanks!
Pretty sure you can change your APN settings to allow only hspa since lte seems to require the PTA setting. Look for the various settings and I'll update later if you have no luck.
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I thought of that too for battery saving.
Here in Canada I tried changing the APN from the default LTE setting to the internet.com setting but it is still stuck on 4G. I didn't subscribe to LTE plan yet but Speedtest.net tests is still better on the LTE apn.
*#2263#* gives access to the RAT selection menu, which lets you choose to park on GSM/UMTS/LTE, and separately which bands (850,1900,1700,2100, etc.) to park on within each technology.
Unfortunately the menu is restricted on our current radio, in my experience with previous Samsung UMTS radios we will need to flash a radio that is not restricted (at least temporarily, to unlock the menu) to get access to this.
@cue_32 i believe its supposed to say LTE when you are on lte. if it says 4g its really just 3g (or 3g+).
It would be great if an LTE on/off switch was created. If the current radio restricts this from occurring would be a huge bummer. I'll have to dig around on the Development blog to see if anyone is starting to look into this or creating some kinda switch.
The TPC rom gives you the option to choose LTE or HSPA in the settings.
EvilEvo said:
The TPC rom gives you the option to choose LTE or HSPA in the settings.
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What would be nice is if the ROM only connects to 3G when on idle, then go to 4G or LTE when data is being used. For better battery life
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cue_32 said:
What would be nice is if the ROM only connects to 3G when on idle, then go to 4G or LTE when data is being used. For better battery life
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Agreed, the original GSII does that with hspa and 3g
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Hi, how can I bypass AT&T throttling through chaning the APN? I'm running 2.3.6 stock and am in NYC. Thank you!
This is my first time with LTE phone and it seems like at times I have to go into mobile networks and select 3g then select LTE again for the LTE symbol to pop up? I'm on straight talk and just didn't know if this was normal or if the phone will select hspa signal if its better than the LTE signal ?
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i think by default it will when idle fall back to the strongest network cause it saves battery.
but when you need data it will attempt to switch to the fastest available.
cant say for sure but this is what appears to happen on all my phones falls back to 3g and when data is needed it shifts to HSPA+
newtonfb said:
This is my first time with LTE phone and it seems like at times I have to go into mobile networks and select 3g then select LTE again for the LTE symbol to pop up? I'm on straight talk and just didn't know if this was normal or if the phone will select hspa signal if its better than the LTE signal ?
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I'm getting the same behavior on T-Mobile. My Nexus 4, which was never intended to have its LTE radio used, would stay on LTE, come hell or high water, while I'm in the city and fight to keep it as I left. The Nexus 5 seems picky about it's LTE and only uses it if it deems it good enough. If LTE gets 2 bars or lower, it goes back to HSPA. If you force "LTE only" under the secret dialer menu, it will use its LTE, but when you switch it back to LTE/GSM (PRL), it drops LTE and uses HSPA+. I'm like, "The hell is your problem, your highness?"
I had high hopes driving into work today. I was expecting it to get on LTE much sooner, but it didn't switch until I was deep within the city until I entered the parking structure (which my N4 would still have LTE). While I sit here at work, it refuses to switch to LTE while in the building where my N4, in the same spot, would be happily on LTE.
I just don't get it. I thought LTE would be much better on this device, instead it is worse. I feel like this is a bug of some sort. We are in an age where carriers will begin shutting down their legacy networks (of course, T-Mo is nowhere near as ready), and this phone treats LTE like Sprint WiMax!
Not sure about straight talk but I'm in lte with att if I'm in a lte area.
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Just took mine right out the box and as it booted it went right into LTE.
On tmboile.
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Just took mine right out the box and as it booted it went right into LTE.
On tmboile.
AndroidKills said:
Just took mine right out the box and as it booted it went right into LTE.
On tmboile.
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Just took mine right out the box and as it booted it went right into LTE.
On tmboile.
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I suppose I should re-flash my phone then. It's just silly how my phone keeps preferring HSPA+ over LTE. When I had LTE enabled on my Nexus 4, my battery life really didn't change. I suppose it had, but it wasn't perceptible to me.
I've had really good luck with it connecting to an LTE network when inside of a LTE area.
However this morning I was streaming from soundcloud while driving and I was 10 minutes into the city with LTE coverage and it would switch. As soon as I ran speedtest it switched. So I believe what was said up above to be true. It needs a good reason probably too switch if your current network mode is doing fine for your current data needs/battery.
I did read this phone is using Qualcomm s news LTE chip which saves power. That could probably play a role.
Either way I'm totally fine with it because it responded to my need of a lot of data instantly by switching to LTE when I ran speed test.
So hey if it saves me battery and h+ is enough for streaming from soundcloud I'm not going to argue with it.
Hold this helps.
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Couple of things to keep in mind.
One, your phone will say 3g when not using LTE or HSPA+. This is to save battery, it only shows LTE or H when you are downloading something, or loading a webpage.
Secondly, I have noticed my phone will choose a strong HSPA+ signal over a weak LTE signal. At home, I have a solid LTE connection, so it always says LTE, but at work it switches back and forth from 1 bar of LTE to full bars of HSPA+. Speed wise, they are still comparable, at around 5-6mb/s. At home though, my LTE is around 40mb/s.
Hope this helps.
ArkAngel06 said:
Couple of things to keep in mind.
One, your phone will say 3g when not using LTE or HSPA+. This is to save battery, it only shows LTE or H when you are downloading something, or loading a webpage.
Secondly, I have noticed my phone will choose a strong HSPA+ signal over a weak LTE signal. At home, I have a solid LTE connection, so it always says LTE, but at work it switches back and forth from 1 bar of LTE to full bars of HSPA+. Speed wise, they are still comparable, at around 5-6mb/s. At home though, my LTE is around 40mb/s.
Hope this helps.
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So, my Nexus 4 keeping its LTE active all the time except for when making/receiving calls was a "bug" of the hacked radio then? I'm not being sarcastic, I just never owned a true LTE phone before, but my friend who has a Nexus 5 says his LTE has been staying on. It really doesn't make sense for LTE to behave this way as it will replace the legacy networks at some point in the future in which you won't have anything else to fall back to.
Oddly, I haven't noticed this at all. I'm on t-mobile, and my nexus 5 defaults to LTE when I have LTE selected as preferred connection. It doesn't switch to 3g during dormancy as far as I can tell (when I turn the screen back on, its already on LTE).
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I'm getting the same behavior on T-Mobile. My Nexus 4, which was never intended to have its LTE radio used, would stay on LTE, come hell or high water, while I'm in the city and fight to keep it as I left. The Nexus 5 seems picky about it's LTE and only uses it if it deems it good enough. If LTE gets 2 bars or lower, it goes back to HSPA. If you force "LTE only" under the secret dialer menu, it will use its LTE, but when you switch it back to LTE/GSM (PRL), it drops LTE and uses HSPA+. I'm like, "The hell is your problem, your highness?"
I had high hopes driving into work today. I was expecting it to get on LTE much sooner, but it didn't switch until I was deep within the city until I entered the parking structure (which my N4 would still have LTE). While I sit here at work, it refuses to switch to LTE while in the building where my N4, in the same spot, would be happily on LTE.
I just don't get it. I thought LTE would be much better on this device, instead it is worse. I feel like this is a bug of some sort. We are in an age where carriers will begin shutting down their legacy networks (of course, T-Mo is nowhere near as ready), and this phone treats LTE like Sprint WiMax!
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If you don't mind, would you share how to force LTE only under the secret dialer menu?
Thanks.
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I think I found it with the code *#*#4636*#*# -> phone information -> set preferred network type: LTE only
When I do this and reboot, my bars just disappear, and my APN in my mobile network settings disappears too. I'm using net10.
Anybody know a fix to this?
Megiddo2000 said:
If you don't mind, would you share how to force LTE only under the secret dialer menu?
Thanks.
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I think I found it with the code *#*#4636*#*# -> phone information -> set preferred network type: LTE only
When I do this and reboot, my bars just disappear, and my APN in my mobile network settings disappears too. I'm using net10.
Anybody know a fix to this?
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I don't have to reboot, myself. When I force LTE only, the phone drops HSPA and goes to LTE.
I'd say put it back to GSM/LTE Only (PRL) and then reset your APN settings.
dijit4l said:
I don't have to reboot, myself. When I force LTE only, the phone drops HSPA and goes to LTE.
I'd say put it back to GSM/LTE Only (PRL) and then reset your APN settings.
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when i try dialing that number it says "Connection problem or invalid MMI code."
What's wrong?
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when i try dialing that number it says "Connection problem or invalid MMI code."
What's wrong?
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woops, my bad. the code is:
*#*#4636#*#*
(forgot to flip the hashtag asterik in the back)
I just helped my son install the hybrid modem for his Nexus 4 and set up the T-mobile APN for it. I was about to tell him that he would have to go somewhere else to test it since I never get LTE at home, and then boom, the 4G icon shows up on his phone! I checked Network Signal Info and sure enough, it's got an LTE connection with about 6Mbps transfer rate. Sitting right next to him my N5 has only 3G with occasional switches up to HSPA and back, and a very low transfer rate. What gives? I am able to get LTE on the N5 in other areas of town and it works wonderfully, but around my home it is very weak and almost never runs in LTE mode.
Could it be that the N4 is connecting on a different LTE band? If so, why is the N5 not using that band as well? Is there something that can be done for the N5 to tweak it to improve its LTE reception or how it chooses how to connect to available LTE signals?
Both N4 and N5 have 1700 band so it should get perfect HSDPA.
It might be the towers in your area are busy or the signal is weak.
I use straight talk t-mobil and I get HSDPA around 15Mbps and my friend get a little more on LTE here in chicagoland.
Also for people on Straight talk if you want to get LTE att version you need to get a new simcard and change APN and for t-mobil
just get a new simcard and boom you get LTE.
Idk if I'd worry about it. In most places the HSDPA speeds for T-Mobile are the same or better than the LTE speeds you would get. I'm in the far north chicago suburbs and I get LTE and HSDPA downloads at 25mbps. The LTE coverage is still a bit spotty. Its probably only worth it if I you're in a developed urban area. However it is a bit strange that you guys have the same hardware, service and location but different connections. The only thing I can think of is that I've seen some people instruct to setup the apn as fast.tmobile.com. however mine only worked with fast.T-Mobile.com (with the dash). I would also check to confirm that your phone is set to lte preferred (LTE/gsm) and not gsm priority. Those are the only things I can think that I can think of. Hope it helps.
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Idk if I'd worry about it. In most places the HSDPA speeds for T-Mobile are the same or better than the LTE speeds you would get. I'm in the far north chicago suburbs and I get LTE and HSDPA downloads at 25mbps. The LTE coverage is still a bit spotty. Its probably only worth it if I you're in a developed urban area. However it is a bit strange that you guys have the same hardware, service and location but different connections. The only thing I can think of is that I've seen some people instruct to setup the apn as fast.tmobile.com. however mine only worked with fast.T-Mobile.com (with the dash). I would also check to confirm that your phone is set to lte preferred (LTE/gsm) and not gsm priority. Those are the only things I can think that I can think of. Hope it helps.
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T-Mobile 4G LTE will properly works on fast.t-mobile.com, fast.tmobile.com is not the proper APN (the - matters)
There are just way too many variables. Maybe his modem has better reception, newer sim card, etc.
RobinD42 said:
I just helped my son install the hybrid modem for his Nexus 4 and set up the T-mobile APN for it. I was about to tell him that he would have to go somewhere else to test it since I never get LTE at home, and then boom, the 4G icon shows up on his phone! I checked Network Signal Info and sure enough, it's got an LTE connection with about 6Mbps transfer rate. Sitting right next to him my N5 has only 3G with occasional switches up to HSPA and back, and a very low transfer rate. What gives? I am able to get LTE on the N5 in other areas of town and it works wonderfully, but around my home it is very weak and almost never runs in LTE mode.
Could it be that the N4 is connecting on a different LTE band? If so, why is the N5 not using that band as well? Is there something that can be done for the N5 to tweak it to improve its LTE reception or how it chooses how to connect to available LTE signals?
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Fwiw there are other threads where people have reported that the N4 picks up LTE in the same place that an N5 does not. So you are not alone. N4 may have a stronger radio. That would be unfortunate... Never good to see a step backwards on something as important as that.
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Good news everyone! I too has having this problem. My Nexus 4 was an LTE champ and then it was a huge let down that my Nexus 5 was treating LTE like it had cooties, but now my Nexus 5 works the way it should. What I did was go to my nearest T-Mobile store and told the representative what was happening. He called tech support and they ended up doing some sort of reset to my account. I also had questions about my SIM card and felt that it could have been at fault. He offered to switch it out to the new ISIS SIM and as soon as my phone booted up, it was on LTE. Since then, it has behaved like my Nexus 4. I am even in my office where the Nexus 5 wasn't picking up LTE, but my Nexus 4 was, and it is on LTE at the moment.
I am not sure if the reset that tech support did solved the problem or the new SIM, but I would definately give that a try--it didn't cost me anything and now I am happy with my Nexus 5. Good luck!
In my experience my N4 has slightly better signal pickup than my N5.
The real reason is probably differences in the radios' priority algorithms. Set your N5 to LTE-only and see what happens, I imagine you'll get LTE.
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I am not sure if the reset that tech support did solved the problem or the new SIM, but I would definately give that a try--it didn't cost me anything and now I am happy with my Nexus 5. Good luck!
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Did you not get LTE at all, or really poor LTE signal/speed?
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Did you not get LTE at all, or really poor LTE signal/speed?
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I would get LTE eventually only to lose it when it reached 2 bars or lower. It was really weird. I would be in areas where one would get 5 bars of LTE and the phone would sit on HSPA until I would show the phone it was on LTE by switching to LTE Only under the secret dialer menu and then back to GSM/LTE (if you use LTE only, you will lose voice). Then it would hold LTE until it reached 1-2 bars and then go back to HSPA.
I hope this helps.
I am seeing strange readings of signal strength. I see a 10+ db difference between what is reported in the phone status and an app like rootmetrics.
I don't know which one is misrepresenting the signal strength but it seems the roometrics is more accurate because my nexus 4 the signal strength is roughly the same on lte.
Can anyone else confirm?
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Does anyone happen to know exactly which settings we are supposed to have? Is it different per area of country? I am in New York City and the NJ markets and I know my LTE does work, I have seen good speeds in spots and horrible speeds in others. I keep messing with all the settings and I can't remember which ones work the best. I had decent speeds this morning but then I went and changed something and now my speeds are back to being very slow. I also noticed that the band priority does not stick, as suggested by someone on this forum, I tried setting priority for band 41>25>26 but it always makes band 25 the first priority.
LTE/GSM/CDMA auto(PRL) or LTE/CDMA auto (PRL)?
Network Mode: LTE or Global?
Enable band 41 & 26 or leave them disabled?
I have been switching around these settings so much and I think they sometimes change on their own so I never know which is the proper setting. I am also getting very slow LTE in NYC but when I was up in Northern NJ yesterday I was getting 20Mbps down in Wayne NJ. This morning I was getting between 5-10 down in Manhattan and then I changed something and speeds went back down to .50 down. I think I changed settings back to what they were but speeds are not reflecting this.
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NYC has crap speeds according to several on forum. Chicago is fine. Enable the bands if you live in region on the spark list.
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mattrb said:
NYC has crap speeds according to several on forum. Chicago is fine. Enable the bands if you live in region on the spark list.
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NYC is on the spark list, no? That is why I can't believe how slow the network is...
Raistlin1 said:
Does anyone happen to know exactly which settings we are supposed to have? Is it different per area of country? I am in New York City and the NJ markets and I know my LTE does work, I have seen good speeds in spots and horrible speeds in others. I keep messing with all the settings and I can't remember which ones work the best. I had decent speeds this morning but then I went and changed something and now my speeds are back to being very slow. I also noticed that the band priority does not stick, as suggested by someone on this forum, I tried setting priority for band 41>25>26 but it always makes band 25 the first priority.
LTE/GSM/CDMA auto(PRL) or LTE/CDMA auto (PRL)?
Network Mode: LTE or Global?
Enable band 41 & 26 or leave them disabled?
I have been switching around these settings so much and I think they sometimes change on their own so I never know which is the proper setting. I am also getting very slow LTE in NYC but when I was up in Northern NJ yesterday I was getting 20Mbps down in Wayne NJ. This morning I was getting between 5-10 down in Manhattan and then I changed something and speeds went back down to .50 down. I think I changed settings back to what they were but speeds are not reflecting this.
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enable all 3 bands,
25 = 0
26 = 0
41 = 1
Change mode from Global to LTE
LTE/CDMA Auto
krylon360 said:
enable all 3 bands,
25 = 0
26 = 0
41 = 1
Change mode from Global to LTE
LTE/CDMA Auto
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That is how I had it setup and was getting horrific download speeds in Manhattan, like .20 to .50 Mbps. I tried changing around some more and not getting any consistent results. Will revert back to your settings and just leave it like that and hope LTE gets better here.
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enable all 3 bands,
25 = 0
26 = 0
41 = 1
Change mode from Global to LTE
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Just an FYI, I had changed to these settings a few days ago and they have all changed on their own. I think a PRL or Profile update had changed it back to LTE/GSM/CDMA and changed from LTE to Global. Also the priorities of all the bands have also changed after I edited them but I am not sure what caused the change.
So these settings are definitely not sticking after I change them.
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Just an FYI, I had changed to these settings a few days ago and they have all changed on their own. I think a PRL or Profile update had changed it back to LTE/GSM/CDMA and changed from LTE to Global. Also the priorities of all the bands have also changed after I edited them but I am not sure what caused the change.
So these settings are definitely not sticking after I change them.
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noticing the same. Looking into it.
Might have to exchange my phone though. this thing is all sorts of jacked. kernel date/time is in the 1970's. When I get the phone on Friday; it said update last checked 1/1/1969.... o.0
I have the note 5 and yesterday my LTE speeds slowed way down. From a normal 26 mbs to about 1 mbs today. I did dial *#2263# and changed my preferred LTE band to 4 but i am not sure what band i was on before.
I am assuming that the tower near me was updated to band 12. Is there anyway to select another band? Or tell which band I am on?
T-Mobile will throttle your data if you pass the cap on your plan.
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T-Mobile will throttle your data if you pass the cap on your plan.
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I'm sure he would know if he was being throttled because the 4g lte icon on the status bar would switch to 2G. Sometimes their might just be a lot of people connected to the same tower.
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No speed issues here, LTE or WiFi.
I'm located in a Band 12 area, so I used the service mode to tell my phone to prefer it over Band 4. My speeds went from ~20mbps in a particular area to over 70mbps, without moving an inch.
I noticed slower data after flashing the new modem
Lancerz said:
I'm sure he would know if he was being throttled because the 4g lte icon on the status bar would switch to 2G. Sometimes their might just be a lot of people connected to the same tower.
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I got throttle last month and lte was showing.