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I have had it with this LG G2 phone.
This will be the 2nd device to have the digitizer fail within just a few days of ownership, this one lasting 15 minutes...
I cannot trust a phone that does not function properly and has this track record in my real world testing...
I loved the specs, I researched phones that I could afford used off eBay, under $200, and thought this G2 to be the sweet spot based upon specifications. What phone do you guy recommend to replace this phone with at least the specs of this phone?
I destroyed all my notes after making the decision on this model, nearly a full month comparing features, etc and never once came upon the issue with this dual digitizer and the dead spots or the ghost typing on the web or in forums.
I already tried the update firmware on touch screen in hidden menu and calibration, I just give up, I need a phone that will last me a couple years, this dual quad core seemed perfect on paper, so disappointed in it...
So need at least a dual quad or octacore, ability to get official Lollipop update in near future, 2G RAM minimum, LTE, prefer SD card access, high megapixel camera, less than 2 years since release, phones with car docks are a plus too...
Any suggestions?
Samsung Note 3 maybe
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sobitthen said:
I have had it with this LG G2 phone.
This will be the 2nd device to have the digitizer fail within just a few days of ownership, this one lasting 15 minutes...
I cannot trust a phone that does not function properly and has this track record in my real world testing...
I loved the specs, I researched phones that I could afford used off eBay, under $200, and thought this G2 to be the sweet spot based upon specifications. What phone do you guy recommend to replace this phone with at least the specs of this phone?
I destroyed all my notes after making the decision on this model, nearly a full month comparing features, etc and never once came upon the issue with this dual digitizer and the dead spots or the ghost typing on the web or in forums.
I already tried the update firmware on touch screen in hidden menu and calibration, I just give up, I need a phone that will last me a couple years, this dual quad core seemed perfect on paper, so disappointed in it...
So need at least a dual quad or octacore, ability to get official Lollipop update in near future, 2G RAM minimum, LTE, prefer SD card access, high megapixel camera, less than 2 years since release, phones with car docks are a plus too...
Any suggestions?
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I changed from LG G2 over an HTC One M8... Amazing!
Ended up getting a 3rd G2, 3rd time was a charm.
Although I find out today I could have bought a brand new G2 for only $20 more off eBay...
They have them for 189.99 now...
So, i'm actually using an ancient Galaxy SII and i'm looking to switch to the Moto G 3rd generation. I want to know honest opinions of Moto G owners to check if it fulfils my needs or if I need to keep saving money to buy another phone..
1) How is the performance? Are there much hiccups/lags/slow downs? How the SD410 + Adreno 306 do for gaming (Clash of Clans, Candy Crush..)? Does it heat up much? My SGS2 gets insanely hot when playing Clash of Clans, doing long time web browsing or long time phone calls... :crying:
2) For those who own the 2GB version, how is the multitasking? Is it worth the extra money?
3) How is the battery on both 4G and WiFi? I tried looking on the battery thread but got some discrepancy on the screenshots. I actually get 1h SOT on this 5 yo phone, have to charge it about 3 times a day, so anything above 3h is fine!
4) Are there any major bugs on the software? I found some threads but these bugs seems to be particular to the thread owners, I haven't found (yet) any wide spread bug.
5)I'm a bit worried about the new LCD panel since it's TFT. What do you guys think about it?
6) Would you recommend the phone? In a scale of 1 to 10 (considering the price, obviously), how much would you rate it?
I appreciate a LOT any feedback.. I want to retire this SGS2 as fast as possiblie. Thanks!!
Lunatiic said:
So, i'm actually using an ancient Galaxy SII and i'm looking to switch to the Moto G 3rd generation. I want to know honest opinions of Moto G owners to check if it fulfils my needs or if I need to keep saving money to buy another phone..
1) How is the performance? Are there much hiccups/lags/slow downs? How the SD410 + Adreno 306 do for gaming (Clash of Clans, Candy Crush..)? Does it heat up much? My SGS2 gets insanely hot when playing Clash of Clans, doing long time web browsing or long time phone calls... :crying:
2) For those who own the 2GB version, how is the multitasking? Is it worth the extra money?
3) How is the battery on both 4G and WiFi? I tried looking on the battery thread but got some discrepancy on the screenshots. I actually get 1h SOT on this 5 yo phone, have to charge it about 3 times a day, so anything above 3h is fine!
4) Are there any major bugs on the software? I found some threads but these bugs seems to be particular to the thread owners, I haven't found (yet) any wide spread bug.
5)I'm a bit worried about the new LCD panel since it's TFT. What do you guys think about it?
6) Would you recommend the phone? In a scale of 1 to 10 (considering the price, obviously), how much would you rate it?
I appreciate a LOT any feedback.. I want to retire this SGS2 as fast as possible. Thanks!!
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The phone although i m also waiting to buy his phone as it is out of stock now but during this 2 weeks time span i have done a lot of research ,watching every review,unboxing,reading comment's etc and finally end up with the following result.
For 16 gigs/2gigs variant only.
1. Performance is amazingly smooth and buttery with stock android. The SD 410 handles up all the regular or extensive gaming task very easily. Find a little lag when playing nova 3 but that is negotiable considering the price of the device.
2.The phone heat ups upto 39-40 °c but that when recording with flash or playing games for more than half an hour. But the back panel absorbs 92% of heat so u wont feel anything unlike xiaomi that goes up to 49-50°c temp.
3. The camera is decent and has the ability to take good pictures unless u r a professional photographer. There is slight noise in the photo but not noticeable.
4. Battery lasts for one day with WiFi ,Bluetooth on and some gaming, whatsapp all time, and listening music and watching movies etc.
5. Out of 10 for me without using i think the phone deserves 9 considering the price. Overall its a budget smartphone and full value for money.
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Lunatiic said:
So, i'm actually using an ancient Galaxy SII and i'm looking to switch to the Moto G 3rd generation. I want to know honest opinions of Moto G owners to check if it fulfils my needs or if I need to keep saving money to buy another phone..
1) How is the performance? Are there much hiccups/lags/slow downs? How the SD410 + Adreno 306 do for gaming (Clash of Clans, Candy Crush..)? Does it heat up much? My SGS2 gets insanely hot when playing Clash of Clans, doing long time web browsing or long time phone calls... :crying:
2) For those who own the 2GB version, how is the multitasking? Is it worth the extra money?
3) How is the battery on both 4G and WiFi? I tried looking on the battery thread but got some discrepancy on the screenshots. I actually get 1h SOT on this 5 yo phone, have to charge it about 3 times a day, so anything above 3h is fine!
4) Are there any major bugs on the software? I found some threads but these bugs seems to be particular to the thread owners, I haven't found (yet) any wide spread bug.
5)I'm a bit worried about the new LCD panel since it's TFT. What do you guys think about it?
6) Would you recommend the phone? In a scale of 1 to 10 (considering the price, obviously), how much would you rate it?
I appreciate a LOT any feedback.. I want to retire this SGS2 as fast as possiblie. Thanks!!
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1) I play Candy Crush, Riptide, Pokemon Shuffle, and other games all the time, the Moto G gets a little warm, but nothing like my Nexus 4 or previous phones... the performance is acceptable to good, but not excellent. Kind of like having a middle of the road graphics card in your PC, it does the job but won't impress anyone.
2) This is a personal preference thing, but I purchased and got the 2GB version, I switch apps around all the time and have zero issues with apps closing... Aside from the 2GB you also get 16GB of storage, which is almost essential especially if you are going to be installing some games. 1GB/8GB just won't cut it for more than average phone use, gaming would not be impossible but could be difficult.
3) I get good to great battery life... I average 4 hours of SOT on LTE in outdoor usage playing Ingress so the GPS is going all the time, screen near full brightness, graphics engine working hard, and 6 hours of SOT with average usage on WiFi. I average 4.5-5.0 hours of SOT per charge when needed, but at the end of an average day I still have 30% battery remaining.
4) If there are any major bugs, or even annoying minor ones, I have yet to see them. I am still stock/unrooted but using Nova Launcher Prime. This is one of the few phones I have had in a very long time where I do not have the urge to unlock, root, and ROM it... yet.
4a) Not really a bug(s), but two caveats on this one, the phone does not have a gyroscope... but uses 2 accelerometers instead, this can cause some directional issues in apps like Ingress or Waze (not Maps or Scout), the app thinks you are always pointing north. Once you realize it you just deal with it or switch to other apps. The other is that it does not have NFC, which is probably not a big deal unless you plan on using Android Pay or hacking amiibo.
5) The display is very nice, crisp and easily viewable from a wide angle... I have zero complaints on the display, it is 10x better than the display on old Nexus 4.
6) I would give it an 8.5, and recommend this phone for the average to mild Android enthusiast... It is basically stock Android with a couple add ins, and is about as close to a Nexus device as you get at half the price. If you are a hard core ROM flasher, enthusiast, or developer, prefer a larger/higher resolution screen, need NFC or a Gyroscope, this may not be the phone for you.
I had an SGS2 Skyrocket for a while, it was a decent phone but the battery life was horrid, since then I have moved onto several phones... step into 2015, you will be so glad you did, not having to look for a charger every place you go is liberating!
Not trying to sway you as I love my Moto G and would not give it up, but some alternatives to consider: Asus Zenfone 2, Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3, and Huawei Ascend Mate 2. My son got the Ascend Mate 2, the battery life is amazing... we talk about 4-6 hours SOT, he gets more like 12-15 hours of SOT, or not charging for several days, I have actually seen him go from Monday morning until Friday without charging. The Zenphone and Idol a little more feature rich and larger, they have gyroscope/NFC and some of the more premium features the Moto G is missing, at a price, my friend got two Zenphone 2 2GB/16GB models and it works well although he is hardly a hardcore user. Just some stuff to consider... Good luck.
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I had an SGS2 Skyrocket for a while, it was a decent phone but the battery life was horrid, since then I have moved onto several phones... step into 2015, you will be so glad you did, not having to look for a charger every place you go is liberating!
Not trying to sway you as I love my Moto G and would not give it up, but some alternatives to consider: Asus Zenfone 2, Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3, and Huawei Ascend Mate 2. My son got the Ascend Mate 2, the battery life is amazing... we talk about 4-6 hours SOT, he gets more like 12-15 hours of SOT, or not charging for several days, I have actually seen him go from Monday morning until Friday without charging. The Zenphone and Idol a little more feature rich and larger, they have gyroscope/NFC and some of the more premium features the Moto G is missing, at a price, my friend got two Zenphone 2 2GB/16GB models and it works well although he is hardly a hardcore user. Just some stuff to consider... Good luck.
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Yeah.. I wake up and unplug the phone at around 5am to go to College, and when I arrive there, i'm already at ~60%. When I play CoC, the phone get's abnormaly hot (even tho it's undervolted) and the battery drain is absurd, like 2% a minute. And to make it worse, my original charger broke and I have to charge it trough a USB Port on my notebook, so basically the phone stays charging half of the day, and the other half i'm using it..
I live in Brazil, so it's extremelly hard to find Huawei, Oppo, Alcatel, etc. around here. What happens is people import the phone for it's regular price, and sell it for twice or even more. The OnePlus Two for example, it's not selling for south america, so people travel and buy or import it (dunno how) for it's regular price, ~390USD, and sell it here for around 1000USD. Same thing goes for all brands that doesn't sell here, like HTC. When phones are sold here by their own companies, the oposite happens, people import phones to sell them at a lower price compared to the company price tag. The Apple Iphone is a great example. Everything here is way more expensive compared to almost every other country in the world, due to our heavy amount of taxes.
I researched a bit the ZenFone 2, but after seeing some reviews, I didn't like at all their user interface, it's way too modified for my taste.. remembers me the old TouchWiz (clunky with too many features I won't use). And since It uses Intel, i'm afraid of a future lack of developers for custom Roms and Kernels.
I had a Sony Xperia S and NEVER used NFC. The gyroscope isn't a deal breaker for me.
Thanks for your reply! I'm almost sold for the Moto G. :highfive:
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Yeah.. I wake up and unplug the phone at around 5am to go to College, and when I arrive there, i'm already at ~60%. When I play CoC, the phone get's abnormaly hot (even tho it's undervolted) and the battery drain is absurd, like 2% a minute. And to make it worse, my original charger broke and I have to charge it trough a USB Port on my notebook, so basically the phone stays charging half of the day, and the other half i'm using it..
I live in Brazil, so it's extremelly hard to find Huawei, Oppo, Alcatel, etc. around here. What happens is people import the phone for it's regular price, and sell it for twice or even more. The OnePlus Two for example, it's not selling for south america, so people travel and buy or import it (dunno how) for it's regular price, ~390USD, and sell it here for around 1000USD. Same thing goes for all brands that doesn't sell here, like HTC. When phones are sold here by their own companies, the oposite happens, people import phones to sell them at a lower price compared to the company price tag. The Apple Iphone is a great example. Everything here is way more expensive compared to almost every other country in the world, due to our heavy amount of taxes.
I researched a bit the ZenFone 2, but after seeing some reviews, I didn't like at all their user interface, it's way too modified for my taste.. remembers me the old TouchWiz (clunky with too many features I won't use). And since It uses Intel, i'm afraid of a future lack of developers for custom Roms and Kernels.
I had a Sony Xperia S and NEVER used NFC. The gyroscope isn't a deal breaker for me.
Thanks for your reply! I'm almost sold for the Moto G. :highfive:
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Good luck, I'm sure you will enjoy it!
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As others have said, get a 16 GB G and forget about all of the competition. Like too many android phones, those are just hulking brutes with no brain (no optimisation/support, ugly-as-f**k skins, bloatware everywhere, unimpressive design)
You're looking for a serious upgrade, not a spec toy
For $150 how is this phone really? I am looking to buy it for my mother who of course doesn't care about specs.
Her current phone is an HTC desire 610(Snapdragon 400, 1 gb ram, and 8 GB storage with a 2040 mah battery) and it is really showing its age.
She doesn't care about the latest updates and likely doesn't notice lag.
For her, this phone would be used for
-Photos out with friends
- Social networking(FB, Instagram, etc etc)
-texting and of course calling
Do you recommend it for a mom?
Also **Is the screen really that fragile**
I like the phone and I don't know anyone that has managed to crack the glass or damage the screen.
Gee,
was really hoping to find more thoughts about this phone. I just discovered and was seriously considering picking it up since my Note 4 is DEAD (NO MORE SAMSUNG FOR ME EVER!!! My S3 crapped out and I had to force Samsung to give me another even though my warranty had passed).
I just bought one for me last month to replace a Galaxy S4 that went smashy. I'm happy with it. Coming from an S4 the Idol 3 is clearly an inferior device in every category. But it's still a very strong phone, and for $150 you can't really go wrong. When I compared 'darn good phone for $150' to 'massively impressive phone of the gods for $650' I chose the Idol.
The one drawback on the Idol 3 (And Idol 4 / BalckBerry DTEK 50) is the camera for indoor shots. The camera isn't strong in low light. It's okay. It's not awful. But it's not fantastic. For outdoor shots in daylight, it's a fine camera. So if a great camera is a must, the Idol 3 is going to disappoint. If you need a great camera, you might consider the LG4. It's got a STUPIDLY IMPRESSIVE camera and the price on those is dropping fast. It's still more than the Idol 3, but it's almost worth it for the far superior camera.
As for getting Samsung to replace an S3....really? A 4 year old phone conked out on you and you're shocked and ready to give up on Samsung because of it? Seriously? These things are built with a 2 year life expectancy.
I also had Samsung s4, Samsung Note 2, and Nexus 5. I would not say the Idol 3 is inferior in every way, just some. That being said, the lack of bloatware, MM, and a nice screen make up for a lot of its shortcomings.
I've had the phone for more than year and like it a lot. I paid $200 at prerelease. The screen is excellent and not fragile. Get a good case for it and you will be happy. i have a leather folio type case with a cover that closes and protects the screen. the front dual stereo speakers are loud and great for music. Allcatel has been pretty good about O/S updates. The camera isn't great in low light but very good with both photos and video is bright light. You can't really go wrong for the price.
Izaya Orihara said:
For $150 how is this phone really? I am looking to buy it for my mother who of course doesn't care about specs.
Her current phone is an HTC desire 610(Snapdragon 400, 1 gb ram, and 8 GB storage with a 2040 mah battery) and it is really showing its age.
She doesn't care about the latest updates and likely doesn't notice lag.
For her, this phone would be used for
-Photos out with friends
- Social networking(FB, Instagram, etc etc)
-texting and of course calling
Do you recommend it for a mom?
Also **Is the screen really that fragile**
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I would no longer recommend getting an alcatel phone. Period. They have provided 0 support..they in fact have made things even more difficult by taking away features such as fastboot which makes NO sense in a product being sold unlocked with no carrier hooks. The development is minimal and the majority of the devs are working on other devices although they may still provide some idol3 support it won't be a daily thing. Finally the stock rom's for the idol3 have serious deficiencies....you have terrible lag for 5.0.2 and very short screen on time for marshmallow. Additionally occasionally it just flat out has to be rebooted to get things working right or free up memory.
For $150 there are many other options available now...heck I just purchased a refurbished T-mobile LG V10 for $210 and the specs are MUCH better than the idol3. If the $150 price range is important consider the moto g4.
the device is a great buy and no the screen is not fragile(or mine isnt).
my phone survived a heart stopping 6 foot drop not a scratch.
i was harmed more than the phone
The point of this post is just to share my thoughts about the direction Motorola has taken with flagships. After using this phone for more than a year I can conclude:
Besides near stock Android and Turbo charging, the phone is mediocre at best. I have never felt as good as what i felt with my previous flagships (a Oneplus One).
The Battery life is way below average. After using the phone for a year the battery has really started to show its age and its not lasting as long as it should.
Another annoying issue I noticed is the fact that Motorola implements almost the same design language for their lower end G series and X series. Apart from the size, someone who isn't a tech geek can easily mistake my Pure for a lower end Motorola phone. The new Z series has fixed this, but again it would be difficult for the uninitiated to tell the difference between a Moto Z Play and the more premium Moto Z. Samsung, LG, HTC, Xiaomi go to great lengths to ensure that their flagships stand out and look very different from the budget phones.
I dont think i need to mention the fact that ever since Lenovo has taken over, the update wait time has increased a great deal, new reports suggest that the Pure will only get Noughat in May 2017
The developers that choose to work on the Pure deserve a lot of credit, but the fact is that a lot of developers chose to develop for other devices rather than the Pure.
A lot of accessory manufacturers decided that the moto X Pure didn't deserve any attention. To find a decent case was not very easy, (I especially missed using a Spigen case) and the fact that there is not a single working tempered Screen glass protector proves this. (I know the Pleson works almost 100% but its not available freely in all countries neither is it perfect.)
In conclusion I'm pretty sure this will be my last Motorola phone simply because it would be smarter to spend a little more and get a Galaxy, and with phones like the Oneplus 3T it makes little sense to buy a phone like the Moto Z which is priced considerably higher.
Would love to hear from other people what they think and if they are going to stay loyal to Motorola.
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The point about sharing design with mid range Moto phones is dope. People often ask if it's a Moto X Play or a Moto G 3rd Gen and then we need to tell them it's X Style ??
Well ... I understand your point of view, but what I think is that you chose badly the device, since you found him "mediocre at best"
The points listed:
Comparing the most powerful AND STABLE 32-bit processor to the second in line of Qualcomm's 64-bit generation SOC's with new architecture and everything else, I believe to be extremely wrong, since after the SD810 fiasco the creation of the SD808 was the fix the company used (and i think it was a good one, but this is something mostly disagree with me '^^)
About the OnePlus One, it is really a beast phone with the SD801 (the 32bits GOD) and i understand that you had a remarkable experience with it, since i had (now it is with my girlfriend) an Xperia Z3 with the same SD801 as the OnePlus One i understand when you say it was a more fluid usage, since i think the same, but... I don't think you can compare something that is pretty stable with some new technology.
I never had any problems with the battery because i use as a normal phone and i play games only at home and waiting in lines (bank/medic/...), it gives me something next to 18 hours (stock ROM/kernel) of use with 3 hour SOT or 7 to 8 hours SOT when i use it to watch movies/series/animes in my bed, mostly at weekends. Through the week i unplug it from charger at 6:30, go to work, and at 18:00 i go back home (40 ~ 35% left), the weekend is always a mess for battery stats,
As for the design I don’t have much to say, because I find it very beautiful, and being same design language is a plus for me, i like to have a “invisible phone” in the croud, only people that asks me what is my phone should know the answer.
Now the two really bad points ...
As for Lenovo acquiring Motorola, I fully agree that it was dumb, at least it should keep Motorola working as it always did.
And the lack of smartphone accessories really is laughable
We can keep talking about it, but i really think is a good phone and the testing Nougat ROM's are amazing, i can't wait for the official Nougat update.
btw all samsungs look the same too, comapre new A series with S: very simmilar glass on glass design.
other than that, you're right there are some dissapoitments but it's not real flagship phone, it's more like very good mid-end device, It was never priced like a flagship so don't expect it to be real flagship - that's my opinion. OPO is a differen't story, they managed to get price down with other ways like it's distribution, services ect.
It is a flagship phone. Why would you think otherwise? SD 8xx, 5.7" 2K screen, 21 MP back camera, etc. Upon release the starting price for 16gb was $399, while most mid range phones hit at $250-$300. At this point, nearly 2 years later, it could be considered a mid range but that is because hardware moves forward.
As to my thoughts: I think this is a great phone, even now. I run unrooted stock and pretty much it is a Nexus device with a few extras for customization thrown via Moto apps. These apps are few and I appreciate that they add actual additional features and not just replicate what Android and Google actually does already. The phone runs smooth, has a good camera for good lighting, and handles everything I throw at it. I will admit that battery life could be better, but it is acceptable and at least the turbo charge makes up for this shortcoming. I don't regret this purchase, even if the update process is dismal.
Update: I have hit the end of my warranty period, so I unlocked the bootloader and rooted. I have applied my favorite rooted apps and settings (Xposed, amplify, Greenify, TiBu to disable/uninstall certain apps and services, BBS to track wakelocks, and AdAway) so hopefully I will see improved battery life.
I bought the phone 6 months ago and I love it. I always used to be a android tinkerer. But recently most of the features that I used to root for have become stock. All I really need in a phone is stock android (although I wish we would get updates sooner) and the front facing speakers (because anything else is stupid). While I will probably be buying whatever google has out when I decide that it is time to upgrade in a year or two. It isn't due to anything motorola did wrong in particular. I also tend to keep phones a long time and upgrade to a tried and tested phone (which 6 months ago was the moto x pure, getting great reviews.) I upgraded from the Galaxy Note 2, and this was a wonderful step up.
I bought mine used last summer, upgrading from a Galaxy Note II. I'm a little disappointed in the battery life, but it gets me through most days. I agree about the lack of accessories and the slowing speed of updates. I'm also amazed at how well my Note II still stands up while running a custom MM Rom. I hope the X Pure works that well when it is that old.
But there are things that I really love about this phone too. I am amazed at how good the front speakers sound. I never thought I would care this much, but they are really good. I'm happy with the camera, since most of my photography is in good lighting conditions. This is my first phone with a camera that was good enough to not bother with a point and shoot. I'll move to a custom ROM if the updates stop altogether, but they haven't stopped yet. I'm happy that it still has a headphone jack, I use it all the time. Speed is fast enough to never annoy me, where my Note 2 was fast enough to rarely annoy me.
I choose this phone as an aging flagship instead of a midrange (Honor 5X, Asus Zenfone Laser 2, Moto G 3rd Gen) and I'm glad that I did.
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Znomon said:
I bought the phone 6 months ago and I love it. I always used to be a android tinkerer. But recently most of the features that I used to root for have become stock. All I really need in a phone is stock android (although I wish we would get updates sooner) and the front facing speakers (because anything else is stupid). While I will probably be buying whatever google has out when I decide that it is time to upgrade in a year or two. It isn't due to anything motorola did wrong in particular. I also tend to keep phones a long time and upgrade to a tried and tested phone (which 6 months ago was the moto x pure, getting great reviews.) I upgraded from the Galaxy Note 2, and this was a wonderful step up.
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I bought mine used last summer, upgrading from a Galaxy Note II. I'm a little disappointed in the battery life, but it gets me through most days. I agree about the lack of accessories and the slowing speed of updates. I'm also amazed at how well my Note II still stands up while running a custom MM Rom. I hope the X Pure works that well when it is that old.
But there are things that I really love about this phone too. I am amazed at how good the front speakers sound. I never thought I would care this much, but they are really good. I'm happy with the camera, since most of my photography is in good lighting conditions. This is my first phone with a camera that was good enough to not bother with a point and shoot. I'll move to a custom ROM if the updates stop altogether, but they haven't stopped yet. I'm happy that it still has a headphone jack, I use it all the time. Speed is fast enough to never annoy me, where my Note 2 was fast enough to rarely annoy me.
I choose this phone as an aging flagship instead of a midrange (Honor 5X, Asus Zenfone Laser 2, Moto G 3rd Gen) and I'm glad that I did.
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Note 2 holdout here too . I'm just finishing up my first week since the upgrade and am quite pleased so far. I have the feeling that the MXPE is going to be a good low maintenance, long haul phone that I can get a few good years of service out of without too much hand-holding, just like with the Note. And with a nice, bright LCD screen instead of Led, I won't ever have to worry about burn-in or custom kernels to help correct green tint; pretty much everything just works. In fact, there's a ton of features that used to require a special app or a custom rom on the Note 2 that are built right in to the X, so there was a lot less effort required out-of-the-box to get everything to work, and on the stock Rom, no less! Even tethering works on the stock rom, which is something that I've never seen on any smartphone in my life.
Comparing the battery life of the two devices, I have yet to conclude any formal tests, but so far, the Pure Edition looks like it's going to be delivering 3-4 hours of screen-on time at best, while the Note 2 delivered as much as 4-5 hours on a good day. That said, I used that phone much more conservatively, so that could have something to do with it, but overall, the runtime of the Pure Edition isn't looking all that great. I think it's just got too much power for its own good, and when you combine that with a ludicrously-high screen resolution, (which demands more effort to render those high-resolution fonts and animations) it strains the CPU and GPU more. Time will tell if things improve after I settle in with it.
Overall I am happy with my X pure, though I share some of the others gripes.
Pros
-Screen
-Above average camera
-Good front camera with flash
-Good CPU, 3GB RAM
-front speakers
-no complaint on call quality
-Sd card slot - I have a 64GB card split as 20GB adopted and 40GB external
-moto ROM is near stock
-Moto features are well done (lock screen notifications)
-Simple unlock/root process
-GSM & CDMA = yes on VZ
-Quich charge 2
-understated design (I like it, others not as much)
- PRICE for these features unmatched
Cons
-Gets hot under load
-Battery life could be better - depends on how much I use it. GPS OFF helps. QC is a necessity with this phone
- lack of choice for accessories
- curved back - one handed is a chore and can't use on the table face up. It does feel nice to hold for a call though.
Other
- upgrade cycle has been slower than some would like. However it still exists at least. Other phones would be dead by now, this one is still alive.
Overall, Pros outweigh the cons and there is a lot for me to love about this phone.
I think I have been spoiled, because I'm finding it hard to find a device to upgrade to without sacrifices. The only phones I would consider are the Pixel and Moto G4 and one is expensive and the other underpowered.
well, i did the poll but i did it as a yes i would buy another, with condition of course.
i came from the original disappointed motorola fans, the Photon 4G fan. back then... it was the photon of the era. It had the ability to work as a PC, GSM capabilities, 4G wimax and at the time was the best performance with dual core 1 gigahertz and qHD. really a prime of a phone at that time compared to the S2 and the evo. cyanogenmod came out and did wonders on that phone because moto blur was so trashy. Then... the worst happened. Sprint ordered motorola to lock down the bootloader to 2.3.6 which is severely locked and no modifications were allowed to be done anymore. those who were lucky to not have 2.3.6 were able to mod to ICS but those who had 2.3.6 had to bootstrap the phone to work with cyanogenmod and that even was a piss poor attempt at making it work.
now i buy the moto x pure with alot of resentment from the photon but after hearing the reviews is when i bought it. after plagues of hardware problems with hte nexus 5 i simply needed a way to go back and the best device was the moto x. i was so sure i wanted this phone i custom ordered it (after reading rave reviews), i ordered the black leather with red accent 64 gig with 2 years protection. with over a year on this phone... i will admit i still love it.
there were a few hardware problems but i do have the 2 year protection and they did repair it for me... replaced the screen and the battery and wireless modules. i since then have not had problems with it (and believe they remedied the issues that i had with the older devices). i own an HTC M9, and my sister has the s7 edge. the only thing i like about the m9 is the dolby atmos and the carrier aggregation (hoping for a wireless update for the X). other than that... my phone is still superior despite older technology.
why?
i love my moto x because of the moto display. my absolute favorite! i also love the flash light and camera gestures.
the camera works great, signal is still better than most other phones, it barely crashes, the speakers still work very well, still speedy, turbo charge is still an amazing product and i bought the car charger for it. battery had 90 mins on screen time and still has 41% battery and i like the fact its unlocked gsm. i tried freedom pop a few weeks ago and i put that sim in. switched over quickly and it worked great then when i was done... i put my sprint sim back in and it worked just as great too.
the reason i dont see much to switch to however is because samsung, LG, and HTC hasnt really enticed me yet as to why their phone is better. samsung i have to see what will make them different... but LG really hasnt enticed me and im curious on what HTC does, though im not a metal phone fan (feel the feraday cage idea disintegrates the signal, IMO). Pixel is nice... but i simply dont have the money.
what would make me switch to another phone...
1) 4 gig of ram (preferably 6 gigs)
2) HPUE has to be baked in for Sprint LTE at a minimum but 5 channel aggregation would be amazing, AND GSM UNLOCKED
3) best camera software
4) minimum 5.5 inch screen
5) battery that will last for full 24 hours without need of charge or quick charge 4.0 with dual pol
6) shatter resistance and waterproof
for now... the moto x meets my demands without incremental improvements until i see whats next. hopefully a moto z successor that actually works on sprint
In the 2 years it has been out the update cycle has been slower than Samsung's Motorola did not deliver on the support side the main selling point they had with this device was it was going to be similar to the Nexus upgrade cycle well my warranty was up before the first update came out... In addition to the fiasco that is accessories for this phone I am really regretting not going with the LG v10
I don't know why everyone still complains about the accessories. This was never a mainstream device since it was completely carrier independent and sold unlocked. The previous Moto X (and Moto G) line was sold as both branded and unlocked so they were actually seen at pretty much any company that sold cellular service. For those looking for contract or payment plan pricing, they could get it from the carrier. With limited visibility, and the lack of payment plans through carriers the Pure was just not that popular. Companies that make accessories are going to focus on popular selling phones first as that is where they will make the most money... At least we have some options.
I sold my Moto X Pure to buy a Google Pixel XL.
If I were to sell the Pixel XL, then the Moto X Pure is the only phone I'd consider buying.
It was the best all-around phone I've ever had.
I'd even go with it over the new OnePlus 3 second edition or Galaxy S7 variants.
Regardless of price.
Moto Z. lmao what a stinker that phone is compared to Moto X Pure.
Unless you want pretty. Then you shouldn't even be on XDA if that's all you care about.
Interesting comments. I've been a Nexus owner for years, with the 6P being my prior phone. It became my prior phone due to the all too common Boot Loop of Death (BLOD) that seems to be impacting more and more owners. While Huawei did replace it with a refurb'ed model, not in mint shape like the one I sent, but it did come back with 128g instead of the 32g I sent. The battery is terrible as compared with the MXPE, I've been through most of the custom roms/kernels and nothing has really helped and I don't do social media nor play games on it. The built in features of the Moto really impressed me, they are actually functional and add value. The Moto Display is excellent as is the voice recognition of the Moto voice. The bluetooth stack seems to have issues (with me at least), my cell signal is a bit worse and the lack of updates is sad.
I've considered the Pixel, but the price is insane and after having the Pixel features on the 6P I'm happy with the Moto.
When I got my 6P back, it took about a week to change my sim back to it from the Moto, I put it back in the Moto the next day and don't plan on taking it out.
I've had several issues with my Moto X Pure:
1. Frequent static emanating from the headphone jack, which puts a real damper on quiet classical music. I've read on discussion boards that this is a known problem with jacks on the Moto X.
2. Failure to recognize SD cards. I'm now on my third card, and the phone is less than a year old.
3. The camera now fails to operate because of a "lack of disk space" -- although I have more than 24GB available.
Like you, I will never buy another Motorola phone.
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I've had several issues with my Moto X Pure:
1. Frequent static emanating from the headphone jack, which puts a real damper on quiet classical music. I've read on discussion boards that this is a known problem with jacks on the Moto X.
2. Failure to recognize SD cards. I'm now on my third card, and the phone is less than a year old.
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1. This is interesting and must be sample-specific. I'm a pretty avid music listener and haven't had any problems with the headphone output on either of my MXPEs (had to RMA my first toward the end of the warranty period). I'd definitely notice and complain if there were any perceptible noise.
2. This one I do have experience with. I bought a brand new Samsung EVO 64 GB mSD card at the same time as the phone, and it gave me fits, but seems to work in other devices. Tried an older SanDisk I had laying around and it's worked fine.
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1. This is interesting and must be sample-specific. I'm a pretty avid music listener and haven't had any problems with the headphone output on either of my MXPEs (had to RMA my first toward the end of the warranty period). I'd definitely notice and complain if there were any perceptible noise.
2. This one I do have experience with. I bought a brand new Samsung EVO 64 GB mSD card at the same time as the phone, and it gave me fits, but seems to work in other devices. Tried an older SanDisk I had laying around and it's worked fine.
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I've had issues with static, but only on some select 3.5mm plugs. I just figure it was that specific plug itself.
Have had no issues with my SanDisk plus. I use it as removable storage and not as adopted storage. But going back to your statement, I have owned a multiple phones and have noticed some don't play well with certain brands of cards but do well with others. I'm not sure why this is but it does happen.
I really hope I don't get SD slot troubles. My Note 2 did that and it drove me crazy. Maybe next time I should just shell out for a 64+ GB phone.
Times have changed
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I really hope I don't get SD slot troubles. My Note 2 did that and it drove me crazy. Maybe next time I should just shell out for a 64+ GB phone.
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Newer versions of Android (and their apps, along with the stock Rom apparently) are not nearly as frugal with the 16GB of storage as the Note2 was. I'm already at 7.8/9.6GB used with just a basic load of apps and data (music is on the card and camera photos are also directed to be stored there) on the MXPE.
For comparison, my Note2 has a massive load of software & data, plus a ton of camera photos, all on the main storage volume, and only 6.26GB out of the total 10.95GB available are used.
All that to say that 16GB used to be plenty, but "modern" software is just too bloated for that. If I do upgrade phones anytime in the next ~2 years, it'll probably be to a larger Moto X Pure Edition, but for now, that 64GB MicroSD card should be plenty adequate.
I went to Best Buy to pick up a Moto G7. When I seen they had the Android One version of the Moto X4 on sale for $150 (3gb/32gb) and $200 (4gb/64gb), the G7 was no longer a consideration. Many would say that the G7 has a better display and more modern design. I'm personally not a fan of rear fingerprint sensors and was happy to avoid a "notch" (even though the teardrop isn't all that bad). The G7 being $300, I saved $100 and got a comparable CPU, same ram, same storage, better cameras, NFC, front firing speaker, and IP68 water proofing. The IP68 was important to me to because my main hobby is metal detecting and I'm outdoors a lot. Hoping for longer software updates as well being Android One. I love bone stock Android, I'm pretty stoked right now! lol I remember wanting one of these when they came out, but not bad enough to pay $400 for one.
I'm basically back. I ditched my iPhone SE and came back to Android. I really liked the design and form factor of the SE but it was time for an upgrade/larger display. I was actually able to pull $150 for it pretty quick, so my X4 only cost me $61 out of pocket with tax. I've had several Nexus devices in the past, my last being the 5X. I'm a stock Android fan that is far from a power user, main usage being calls, texts, and YouTube music. I don't game on my phone at all or take many pictures either. So as much as I would love to have a Pixel 3, I can't justify spending that much. The Android One X4 is seriously just perfect for me. I went with the 4gb/64gb variant mainly for the extra gb of ram, longevity factor. Happy to be back!
Goodbye IOS, gone for good.
Beyond Android Q, you will then be able to keep the phone updated with Lineage OS and most GSI's going forward. Congrats! ?
If you want the Google (Pixel 3) Camera I suggest starting with the download from the first link.
The second link gives some explanation of the camera features and why some work and other's don't.
I don't know 100% for sure if you need Google Services or Google Photos installed for the basic camera to work but I've read that MicroG will work as a substitute in custom roms in place of Google Services.
If that's too technical, just download the latest update from the first link and install as a normal app (I haven't used my new X4 yet but I think it will work w/o any issues).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-7-plus/themes/gcam-nokia-7-plus-t3905686
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/google-camera-mods/gcam-google-pixel-1-2-3-t3875663
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I went to Best Buy to pick up a Moto G7. When I seen they had the Android One version of the Moto X4 on sale for $150 (3gb/32gb) and $200 (4gb/64gb), the G7 was no longer a consideration. Many would say that the G7 has a better display and more modern design. I'm personally not a fan of rear fingerprint sensors and was happy to avoid a "notch" (even though the teardrop isn't all that bad). The G7 being $300, I saved $100 and got a comparable CPU, same ram, same storage, better cameras, NFC, front firing speaker, and IP68 water proofing. The IP68 was important to me to because my main hobby is metal detecting and I'm outdoors a lot. Hoping for longer software updates as well being Android One. I love bone stock Android, I'm pretty stoked right now! lol I remember wanting one of these when they came out, but not bad enough to pay $400 for one.
I'm basically back. I ditched my iPhone SE and came back to Android. I really liked the design and form factor of the SE but it was time for an upgrade/larger display. I was actually able to pull $150 for it pretty quick, so my X4 only cost me $61 out of pocket with tax. I've had several Nexus devices in the past, my last being the 5X. I'm a stock Android fan that is far from a power user, main usage being calls, texts, and YouTube music. I don't game on my phone at all or take many pictures either. So as much as I would love to have a Pixel 3, I can't justify spending that much. The Android One X4 is seriously just perfect for me. I went with the 4gb/64gb variant mainly for the extra gb of ram, longevity factor. Happy to be back!
Goodbye IOS, gone for good.
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When I had to replace my Samsung S7's I bought Amazon Prime moto x4's. I found them to be every bit as good as the S7, more than adequate for me, and I liked the cleaner android experience. But then Pie started rolling out. I needed to stay on 8.1 because I use a phone recording app in my work and I could not root the Amazon Prime version.
Then I saw the best buy deal for $200 for the 4gb/64gb rootable X4 (Android One version). I replaced my three amazon prime versions, rooted the android one versions, and all is well. Sold one of the amazon prime versions, gave one to a relative, and turned the other one into a bedside clock and radio.
The only downside was the lack of wireless charging which I use for 99% of my charging (including a wireless charging dock in the car. I even have a few portable charges with built-in QI wireless charging). But a $12 wireless charger adapter that sits inside my case overcame that problem.
I think the moto x4 4gb/64gb Android one version for $200 is the best value in an Android phone right now.
I went to best buy and bought a Moto One, returned it for Moto X4 because there was no development for the Moto One.
HACK3DANDR0ID said:
I went to best buy and bought a Moto One, returned it for Moto X4 because there was no development for the Moto One.
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Smart move.
I also was looking for the best value for the lowest cost.
Continuous development gives a phone value over time, and thus I bought this phone (after $30 refund) new for $135 that had a long good two year history and continuous increased developmental work over time. Much better than buying an expensive new phone with no support. Part of that history also included a high carrier VoLTE coverage, also important. I expect this to be a big upgrade from my last phone (50% more RAM, 70-90% faster processor, and 100% more storage).
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I think the moto x4 4gb/64gb Android one version for $200 is the best value in an Android phone right now.
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Agreed! Yes, the design is a little dated with the display and 16:9 aspect ratio. I greatly prefer a front fingerprint sensor over rear and I am fine with what comes with that, larger bezels.
Stock Android, nice design/build quality, 1080p ips display, SD630, 4gb/64gb, solid cameras, NFC, ip68, USB C, headphone jack, and a front firing speaker for $200. You can't beat this. Especially if you need CDMA/Verizon support like I do.
One big thing Motorola always has over many other unlocked phones is CDMA support. I unfortunately can't utilize the many great GSM only unlocked phones on the market. Where I live in Wisconsin, Verizon and US Cellular are the only logical choices. Horrible AT&T / T Mobile coverage. I pay $105 a month for 3 lines on Verizon Prepaid, 15gb of data on each line. It's nice to have priority over the thousands of people in my area who use straight talk/total wireless (Verizon MVNOs) to. I used Straight Talk for a month on my iPhone SE and the data speed capped at 5mbps. After I switched to Verizon Prepaid, my data speeds are always around 50mbps.
I'm stock Android or nothing. I love that Motorola doesn't waste time and resources on ruining Android OS by skinning and bloating it. Motorola will always be my go to for unlocked phones for 3 reasons. CDMA support, stock Android, and Value.
Ditto, I'm a happy camper with my new Android One X4 (on Fi's software) 4G/64GB capacity, plus more storage with mSD card, mostly for pix & videos when we travel - for a net cost of about $80 including a nice Poetic heavy-duty case, after getting a $92/94 trade-in credit for an aging SS Galaxy S7 Edge with its infamous ghost screen (annoying as hell) that I had been using, since selling the Nexus 6 with a new battery on Swappa; and DW traded her Nexus 6P with the aging (45% capacity remaining) battery into Google, for a (gasp) Moto G6 - and got refunds, enough to get an integrated 4,000 mAh battery case for her all day (gaming) use.
Back on my impressions & likes on the Moto X4, memory & storage/expandable capacity, decent battery life, running Pie after a series of OTA update (probably leaving it stock, "restore" G.Pay (Magisk ... yeah, lots of constant attention) and NFC, and, of course, 3.5 mm headphone jack/front-facing (solo) speaker and a decent "hobby" piered camera for those travel & family photos (not great, good enough) and Android Auto that works (in-dash navigation, supported by our 2019 Hyundai Sonata on a 7" display ... was a pain with the G6, easy with the iPhone SE on Apple CarPlay). For our global travel needs, the X4 has more radio bands & flexibility than the G6 or G7, comparable to the newer iPhones - this should serve me well abroad on "Fi" supported partner/roaming cellular networks & VPN-enabled WiFi hotspots.
I kind of missed the slightly bigger 5.7" (18:9) G6 screen & sleek look but it is still on Oreo patched thru Jan. 2019 - probably at some point, unlock BL/root & load Lineage OS to keep it going, a year or more from now when DW wanted something better, she's happy with her "Fi" services & OTA updates for simplicity. I looked & considered the G7 and even the "Play" variant & the bigger screen, yet without NFC - not truly worth it for a marginal "upgrade" of incremental jump in values for money. For my XDA fun & challenges, I'm going next with a Xiaomi Mi/Redmi global dual-sim in the 6" factor (6.2" or 6.3" if I feel like it) running Android One, that should keep me busy.
All these done at minimal/subsidized Google Fi trade-in when promotions were being run between last year & now, I realized that both the G6 and X4 are getting bad trade-in, but I ain't paying $500+ for a Pixel 3/XL brand new, even with whatever generous trade-in & credits. For play, I got a Huawei Honor - dual sim, running Pie (Linerage OS) for travel & on WiFI, and, down to a good old iPhone SE (16GB only) with a Google Fi data-only sim, that's great for travel for VoIP (Ooma, G.Voice, WhatsApp, Duo, etc.) except that Fi blocked it from tethering ... including Apple CarPlay.
Lastly, I am running the X4 on T-Mobile's network and when traveling outside the USA, switch out the nano sim to Fi's data only sim, since I've been using our Google Voice's number, practically 95% of the calls are VoIP/WiFi calling (and, Ooma's mobile app for outbound call, using a ported "home" number.)