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I have a 5 year old samsung YP-P2 MP3, and it's sound quality far surpasses that of my girlfriends galaxy S2, my Desire Z, and my friends iPhone 4.
I was wondering if there are ANY apps or tweaks or hacks that will improve the sound quality generated by the phones?
Of course I am using 320 kbps bitrate songs for testing, and the same headphones.
My MP3 sounds crisper, much deeper bass, and seems to have a wider treble range.
It's subjective. You've gotten used to the sound of your own device and therefore the others don't sound as good to you. Anybody else may listen to all the ones you listed and decide that yours is the only one that sounds bad!
If you were going to change device i would use use it for a few weeks before making any decisions on how it sounds. It's often the case that once your accustomed to the new sound you may come to prefer it.
Either way, rather than looking around for DSP solutions, which only degrade sound quality, i'd invest in some good headphones... that is the best way to go.
I'm using Shure SE530's, which are amazing no matter what you plug them into, but not everyone wants to spend that amount of money! Check here for a recent review of some affordable headphones:
http://www.reghardware.com/2011/10/15/ten_in_ear_headphones_with_microphones/
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convolution said:
I have a 5 year old samsung YP-P2 MP3, and it's sound quality far surpasses that of my girlfriends galaxy S2, my Desire Z, and my friends iPhone 4.
I was wondering if there are ANY apps or tweaks or hacks that will improve the sound quality generated by the phones?
Of course I am using 320 kbps bitrate songs for testing, and the same headphones.
My MP3 sounds crisper, much deeper bass, and seems to have a wider treble range.
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In case you are rooted, try Viper4Android http://play.google.com/store/apps/d...m.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
I am currently using Galaxy Nexus GSM and it has a very low quality speaker sound. This app did wonders for me
So, how does it fair to Galaxy S3? Does the Octo version comes with Wolfson audio chip?
So, Exynos version will have wolfson wm5102 sound chip afterall...
I want to know about the volume level - my Nexus 4 went back to Google due to the low aux volume. I aux out all the time and it's an absolute requirement for my phone to be able to output at a reasonable volume. The N4 is laughable in that department, and yes that's with hacks too. Someone please confirm the output volume via the headphone jack is LOUD and I'll be happy!
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I want to know about the volume level - my Nexus 4 went back to Google due to the low aux volume. I aux out all the time and it's an absolute requirement for my phone to be able to output at a reasonable volume. The N4 is laughable in that department, and yes that's with hacks too. Someone please confirm the output volume via the headphone jack is LOUD and I'll be happy!
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GSM Arena's review said that the S600 S4 was clear, but had low output. They also said that the HTC One was much louder, which is why I'm almost considering it over the S4.
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Accourding to GSMArena, in the latest unit the speaker volume is pretty decent, even better than One.
When connected to the amplifier, the sound is superior than almost every phone available in the market. But the DAC is the embedded DAC of S600, so don't know why the difference can be that big.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4-review-914p8.php
Wolfson DAC in Exynos Octa maybe even better
The volume of the headphone output was one of my main complaints about Galaxy S III. No headroom at last year's flagship Samsung was not, in fact, using rebar headphones Etymotic hf5 maximum volume is not enough for comfortable listening to classical music (which usually has a wider dynamic range than other music genres). Fortunately, the Galaxy S4 solved this problem: using the same headphones and listening to the same records I've never had to turn up the volume to the maximum. Also, if the Galaxy S III was a telephone and a deep voice sounded muffled because of this, the Galaxy S4 boasts a more even tonal balance. In general, continuous improvement, anyway
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http://gagadget.com/cellphones/2013-03-27-obzor-samsung-galaxy-s4/
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Accourding to GSMArena, in the latest unit the speaker volume is pretty decent, even better than One.
When connected to the amplifier, the sound is superior than almost every phone available in the market. But the DAC is the embedded DAC of S600, so don't know why the difference can be that big.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4-review-914p8.php
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They said the crosstalk was the only downside of the One and you'd need high tech equipment to even hear it. However, they also said that the S4 was still quiet when compared with the One/Butterfly, which is what the OP is focusing on the most.
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They said the crosstalk was the only downside of the One and you'd need high tech equipment to even hear it. However, they also said that the S4 was still quiet when compared with the One/Butterfly, which is what the OP is focusing on the most.
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Of course the One/Butterfly are louder, they have a separate inbuilt headphone amplifier like all of HTCs recent phones (I think it first appeared in their WP models from last year).
That isn't, in and of itself, a reason to get a One over an S4 necessarily - it still depends on your use-case scenarios and what headphones you use etc. The majority using fairly sensitive IEMs are not going to experience a great deal of benefit from the headphone amplifier. For those who are using harder to drive headphones and don't want to use an external headphone amp then it starts to make more sense.
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Of course the One/Butterfly are louder, they have a separate inbuilt headphone amplifier like all of HTCs recent phones (I think it first appeared in their WP models from last year).
That isn't, in and of itself, a reason to get a One over an S4 necessarily - it still depends on your use-case scenarios and what headphones you use etc. The majority using fairly sensitive IEMs are not going to experience a great deal of benefit from the headphone amplifier. For those who are using harder to drive headphones and don't want to use an external headphone amp then it starts to make more sense.
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But the OP definitely stated that if the S4 is not very loud, it won't be the phone for him due to Aux purposes (I'm guessing in his/her car). And GSM Arena proved the One to be louder. So the better choice (in terms of sound) for the OP would be the One.
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Let's put it this way, set an alarm on the one and you won't sleep through it..
If the differences are slight, too slight to hear with standard headphones then the one is definitely better sound output wise than the s4.
Depending on what kind of user you are, this could make your choice fairly simple.
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But the OP definitely stated that if the S4 is not very loud, it won't be the phone for him due to Aux purposes (I'm guessing in his/her car). And GSM Arena proved the One to be louder. So the better choice (in terms of sound) for the OP would be the One.
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Ah, the OP said nothing of the sort. I wasn't replying to anyone in particular, only trying to generally point out that there is more to consider than a straight numbers comparison of volume outputs.
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Ah, the OP said nothing of the sort. I wasn't replying to anyone in particular, only trying to generally point out that there is more to consider than a straight numbers comparison of volume outputs.
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Whoops. You're right. I was referring to the third poster in this thread.
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I find it curious that GSMarena reviewed the snapdragon version, rather than the "real gsm" exynos version with wolfson. On S3 with Wolfson, increasing hardware volume levels takes about five minutes. Root and change one number in a text file. Not sure on the snapdragon one.
After hearing how different the Nexus 4 sounded compared to their review, I take anything they say with a grain of salt.
Supercurio's twitter feed is worth watching for commentary on audio quality also: https://twitter.com/supercurio
Indeed, GSMArena's sound tests need to be taken with a degree of scepticism, having been heavily criticized by people like Supercurio.
That's why i never quoted gsmarena's review in any part of my posts here and other thread... The test itself is "unproper" to begin with...
I got S3 and recently got HTC one and can confirm that its a best quality sound I heard in phone from speaker and headphone since 2002 and I have Bose headphone, urbets from dr dre and standard headphone in box and I found that htc's headphone got excellent clarity, loundness, deep bass and trable which is better than Bose headphone and as good as urbets of course in HTC one
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onlinejobwork said:
I got S3 and recently got HTC one and can confirm that its a best quality sound I heard in phone from speaker and headphone since 2002 and I have Bose headphone, urbets from dr dre and standard headphone in box and I found that htc's headphone got excellent clarity, loundness, deep bass and trable which is better than Bose headphone and as good as urbets of course in HTC one
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I tried the HTC One in-store the other day, i agree the speakers on there is quiet good, but headphone wise, its not as good as compared to my Note 2. The Note 2 is much more cleaner and fuller audio quality without any tweaks, with wolfson audio kernel, the HTC One does not even come close.
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I tried the HTC One in-store the other day, i agree the speakers on there is quiet good, but headphone wise, its not as good as compared to my Note 2. The Note 2 is much more cleaner and fuller audio quality without any tweaks, with wolfson audio kernel, the HTC One does not even come close.
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I agree,with some audio kernel , wolfson DAC is untouchable(with headphones)
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Did a blind and volume-matched test with the One and S4 (i9505 international version with the same DAC as the one). Listened on 12 and 16ohm IEMs and 32ohm cans.
First interesting thing was that the Samsung stock player is noticeably louder than PowerAMP (not yet tested other third party players). Around 10dB louder if PowerAMP has direct volume control off and ~5dB louder if PowerAMP is using direct volume control. Since we wanted to use the same player in both devices we had to drop the HTC One volume down three notches for them to match closely (only one step to match with the S4 stock player).
Turned off Beats on the One.
Noted with interest that when blinding was removed we both preferred the S4 sound over the One overall, better instrument separation and clarity, less fatiguing and harsh. Generally preferred the bass on the One, although the One was quite boomy. There was one MAJOR problem with the S4 though - crackling with prominent low bass frequencies. This was absent on the T5p at 32ohm, noticeable on the 16ohm IEMs, and very noticeable on the 12ohm IEMs. If this is output impedance related as it appears to be this would put the S4 (i9505) output impedance somewhere in the 4-8ohm range, making it impossible to recommend to anyone using more sensitive IEMs.
ADDIT: Confirmation from users of CIEMs re: crackling on the i9505.
WARNING: DO NOT BUY THE INTERNATIONAL S4 i9505 IF YOU USE SENSITIVE IEMS and plan to use it as a music player without taking advantage of USB audio. This is why you cannot trust any of the major sites audio reviews for handsets.
I now urgently need to test the i9500...
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I tried the HTC One in-store the other day, i agree the speakers on there is quiet good, but headphone wise, its not as good as compared to my Note 2. The Note 2 is much more cleaner and fuller audio quality without any tweaks, with wolfson audio kernel, the HTC One does not even come close.
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+1. Obviously Stereo speakers in itself makes it HTC One hands down the best in that department. But nothing beats Wolfson DAC for headphone audio quality IMHO.
Alright, first off, a brief history. I had the original GNote after which I jumped ship to WP8 with the Lumia 920.
I've loved the 920 overall, the camera is unbelievably good, and FAR FAR better than what my note was, but i'm kinda bored with the wp8 environment and have been looking to switch back to android for the customization and the flexibility.
I've narrowed my hunt down to the G2 and the Note3, though i'm leaning way more to the note 3 since i loved the S-pen and the size of my original Note.
The biggest issue i had on the note, more than the crappy camera and the horrible pictures, was the Audio quality via headphones. The note had the ****ty yamaha DAC.
I've heard some good things about the audio quality on the G2, so that's had me all confused.
Now, I'm no audiophile, but I listen to a lot of music on headphones (picking up the Beyerdynamic DT770 soon!) and in my car and am very worried about the sound quality.
I'll have access only to the Exynos variant of the Note 3 with the Octa-core chip, and have been researching and trying to find some honest opinions regarding the SQ via headphones.
From what i know, the Note 3(both the variants) dont ship with the highly acclaimed wolfson dac that the Note 2 shipped with. And i know there's a difference between the Qualcomm variant and the Exynos variant(which probably has a yamaha dac) when it comes to sound quality.
My 920 isn't the best either, but the audio is very balanced, and produces results that are decent enough for my needs. (My dad's 4S is kinda better than my 920)
Now, I'd love to hear your thoughts about this. how good/bad is it? has anyone used them with a high quality pair of cans? how do they sound?
Also, I understand that the 13mp lens on the back of this beast can no way beat the 920's stellar camera, but are the shots not even in the same league as that of the 920/Iphone 5?
I'm looking forward to some insightful opinions, and hopefully I'll have this baby in my hands soon!
Thank you.
You can check here, the numbers speak for themselves
I've seen the numbers, but sometimes number's aren't the perfect evaluation of quality, so just hoped to get some direct feedback from users here.
Audio Quality is a major concern so the people using the n9000 exynos variant, What do you think of the audio quality via headphones?
Any comments will be of great help!
Thank you
Trust me,the audio quality of Note 3 is better than G2
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wiseandhigh said:
I've seen the numbers, but sometimes number's aren't the perfect evaluation of quality, so just hoped to get some direct feedback from users here.
Audio Quality is a major concern so the people using the n9000 exynos variant, What do you think of the audio quality via headphones?
Any comments will be of great help!
Thank you
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i have N900 and audio quality is just brilliant no issues what so ever ... i use klipsch ear phones and they sound amazing
Thank you!
any insights about the camera as well?
You can't just ask about audio quality because there are so many variables at play. What's the quality of the media? Lossless? 128KB compressed MP3s? What is the media being output to? Included crappy headphones? $500+ IEMs? Someone was complaining about the lack of bass on the N3 compared to the N2 using Samsung headphones. Was the problem exaggerated bass on the N2 and the N3 was more naturally tuned? Or was the N3 really lacking bass?
The GSMArena testing shows the actual recorded output of the N3 as compared to other devices subjected to the same tests. It's excellent (meaning true) with a comment about it not being the loudest of devices they've tested. How that translates in to what you (or others) are looking for depends on your taste (heavy bass isn't true; it's a preference), the quality of the media being used, and the capabilities of what's playing the media back.
I'm specifically interested in audio port quality and volume. If any one has experienced sound on both these devices, please do comment.
Prasad said:
I'm specifically interested in audio port quality and volume. If any one has experienced sound on both these devices, please do comment.
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I think almost everyone knows htc wins over xperia in audio...so decide cleverly both have their own features...
unmaskedfalesh said:
I think almost everyone knows htc wins over xperia in audio...so decide cleverly both have their own features...
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Is there a newer gen phone in comparison to M8 audio at all?
The G3 is supposed to have audio output as clear as the M8 but no integrated AMP.
At this rate, you're better off waiting for the new flagships to come out. MWC 2015 is in March so new phones are just over the horizon such as Xperia Z4, Galaxy S6, G4, etc.
But to answer your question, HTC One's audio quality is better. I see that your sig says HTC One M7. If you're in the market for a phone now I'd go with the Z3 or Galaxy S5 just to have a different taste of android (unless your a big fan of Sense).
Prasad said:
I'm specifically interested in audio port quality and volume. If any one has experienced sound on both these devices, please do comment.
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In general the M8 is louder (both speakers and headphone output) and overall the sound is more crisp and punchy, but you have almost no control over it. The only thing you can do is turn off BoomSound, there's no equalizer and no additional settings. So personally I found that for specific kinds of music it sounds awesome, but it's just not as versatile as I'd want it to be.
Speaking of the Z3, in comparison to the M8 it lacks volume and punchiness, but overall it's more balanced and offers much more settings you can play with. You have manual EQ, several sound profiles and surround settings, and the Z3 supports digital noise cancelling, if that's important to you.
So they both have pros and cons, it comes down to your personal preferences. Overall I'd choose the Z3 over M8, not only for sound quality, but because in many other categories the Z3 is just better than the M8.
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In general the M8 is louder (both speakers and headphone output) and overall the sound is more crisp and punchy, but you have almost no control over it. The only thing you can do is turn off BoomSound, there's no equalizer and no additional settings. So personally I found that for specific kinds of music it sounds awesome, but it's just not as versatile as I'd want it to be.
Speaking of the Z3, in comparison to the M8 it lacks volume and punchiness, but overall it's more balanced and offers much more settings you can play with. You have manual EQ, several sound profiles and surround settings, and the Z3 supports digital noise cancelling, if that's important to you.
So they both have pros and cons, it comes down to your personal preferences. Overall I'd choose the Z3 over M8, not only for sound quality, but because in many other categories the Z3 is just better than the M8.
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Well as per my personal experience i would say the speakers in z3 is downside..its degrade over z2 which sounds n performs better... Using both i feel z3 speakers are inferior to z2 and also how much ever yhe quality of sound is..it should be loud enough fr that caliber of device although it's a water resistance device.. Sony should make it better...m8 is gud in audio..they hav built in amplifier so cant compare fully to z3..onlu thing i dnt like much about m8 is its ui..Xperia ui is best fr me..but if u really want better audio..go to store urself n see the difference.. Don't regret later..also u could wait for newer device launch...
I did some in-store testing by myself. While the M8 was noticeably louder, the Z3 sounded more accurate and crisp to my ears. I got the Z3 Besides, the Z3 is pretty much superior in all the other areas. And I really couldn't wait longer for the market to produce exactly what I want. Everyone knows that never happens.
Glad you like it, enjoy!
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Well as per my personal experience i would say the speakers in z3 is downside..its degrade over z2 which sounds n performs better...
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Can't really say that from my experience... Z3 is definitely an upgrade from the Z2. In all honesty (speaking of speaker quality) the Z3 sounds even better than my M7.
melogray said:
Can't really say that from my experience... Z3 is definitely an upgrade from the Z2. In all honesty (speaking of speaker quality) the Z3 sounds even better than my M7.
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Personally, I couldn't care less about the external speaker quality. How often does one really use that anyway? It's the quality with headphones output that really matters to audiophiles
melogray said:
Can't really say that from my experience... Z3 is definitely an upgrade from the Z2. In all honesty (speaking of speaker quality) the Z3 sounds even better than my M7.
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Well it completely depends upon the personal taste..but Z3 has gone down with latest update..lets hope lollipop does it away..waiting for the update ..but as per M7 my roommate has M7 dual and his half audio is equal to my Z3's full audio at ClearAudio+ thats what i hate...removing XLoud was a bad move from Sony..imo
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Personally, I couldn't care less about the external speaker quality. How often does one really use that anyway? It's the quality with headphones output that really matters to audiophiles
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Well its one reason i compromised. i am too not completely satisfied with any of the mobile phone but its not possible to get all..one or other we hav to ignore..
Been using the moto x 2013 for some time now and its just about perfect. I dont game, my use is heavy on web, text. The problem with my X is that the microphone doesnt seem to work anymore, I have to carry a wired or bluetooth to talk on the phone...which is a pain.
I want something small, similar in size, to replace it. Ive narrowed it down to a S4 or LG G2. Which would you guys recommend? Anyone else make a move from the X 2013 to one of these models?
Thanks,
Mario
If it is bought new, sure. But second hand you can get more recent models at the same prices.
Based solely on the specs, I would go for the G2. When I'm looking for a phone the first thing I look at is the performance, and, looking at the hardware, the G2 is better equipped than the S4. But this is just on paper.
For all I know, the real world performance may be the same.
I am satisfied with the S4
Thanks. Yeah either the G2 or S4 new is what I want, just curious to hear what folks think getting a 2.5 year old device. Id get a new flagship but all of them are just too big.
Get the snapdragon variant. The exynos overheats
S4 is still a very good phone: it can run without problems marshmallow custom roms and you can play on it big games like fifa 16 or asphalt. But if you want a good new phone and almost same dimensions like s4, I recommand OnePlus X.
I don't think S4 will be a good idea now. I had both versions (GT-I9500 and GT-I9505) before I moved for Xperia Z3 D6643. Unfortunately, I have damaged my Z3 and until it got fixed, I will be using the GT-i9505 again.
This phone is driving me crazy, even with max brightness, it's impossible (looks like a black screen) to use it under sunligh. 3G, and 4G (not to talk about GPS) data drains a huge % of battery, average screen on time is about 3-3,5h, no battery optmizations.
The Z3 (5.2") and Z3 compact (4.6") are the best options when talking about cost x benefit. Almost 10h screen on time and +800h standby time.
Thanks all. I kept looking and looking for new S4 or g2 but everything out on the Bay was new "other" or sellers with tons of negative feedback. Lots of positive but also much negative. I just saw no trusty sellers. Ended up pulling trigger on oneplus x. Now the wait for it begins. Hope oxygen is decent.
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i have S4 now frome aboute 1 year and realy i am happy with
run very very good i have add the QI modul and it run official rom until custome have no bug ( zero bug ) actualy custom rom have some BT problem and i use My S4 with my smart watch here why BT are important now if you see forum you have big chois of rom ( custom ) and all tested and run very very well on S4 personaly i change phone until S4 are dead hahaha but LG have an Good support in my watch runing official 6.0 firmware LG give quicly update whet are roling out but samsung are still on 5.0.1 bad guys samsung
@spawk
Samsung has it's own update cycle. Most flagships get support from Samsung up to 2 years after released.
And, in 2016, Galaxy S4 won't be supported anymore.
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The Only thing that is extremely bad about i9505 is its sound quality in earphones.On gsmarena u will see they will say it has best audio quality but in reality its far far away from the best its so flat and dumb.Even all the chinese phones sound better than it there is literally no bass at all in the sound and if u increase it by an equalizer the volume decreases alot.
You could also try i9506 S4 LTE+/LTE A
Ive been using this device for a long time now. Recently broke my galaxy note 3's lcd and sold my lg g2. Back on my i9506 and still good. Its not far with g2 in terms performance. Although I use 2 batteries on my i9506 but hey, great device
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The Only thing that is extremely bad about i9505 is its sound quality in earphones.On gsmarena u will see they will say it has best audio quality but in reality its far far away from the best its so flat and dumb.Even all the chinese phones sound better than it there is literally no bass at all in the sound and if u increase it by an equalizer the volume decreases alot.
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Sound quality depends a lot on the headphones. I hardly think that in-ear ear buds are great at producing bass.
Let's not forget about the song quality too. Anything with a bitrate lower than 320KBPS will have its quality reduced. So always go for 320 or FLAC.
It can have the best sound chip in the world if the headphones are garbage and the music file has static noise.
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Sound quality depends a lot on the headphones. I hardly think that in-ear ear buds are great at producing bass.
Let's not forget about the song quality too. Anything with a bitrate lower than 320KBPS will have its quality reduced. So always go for 320 or FLAC.
It can have the best sound chip in the world if the headphones are garbage and the music file has static noise.
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Sound is really really flat although its very clear and frequency response is good too but its off no use as the sound is so flat use the same earphone on some other phone or the computer then u will understand how flat I9505 sounds
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Sound is really really flat although its very clear and frequency response is good too but its off no use as the sound is so flat use the same earphone on some other phone or the computer then u will understand how flat I9505 sounds
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There are always better devices. My 2 other devices (An ZTE Blade and LG P350) sound crappy compared to my S4.
That's why there are mods like viper4android. With the right setup you can get nice bass.
Besides, stuff like this is just a preference. I, for instance, don't like heavy basses. I like to listen to the music, not the "boom boom" sound of the bass.
GDReaper said:
There are always better devices. My 2 other devices (An ZTE Blade and LG P350) sound crappy compared to my S4.
That's why there are mods like viper4android. With the right setup you can get nice bass.
Besides, stuff like this is just a preference. I, for instance, don't like heavy basses. I like to listen to the music, not the "boom boom" sound of the bass.
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I Dont like much bass either but the sound of i9505 compared to Sony Xperia Z2,Galaxy Grand Prime,Galaxy J5,Galaxy Ace 3 and the desktop computer is really flat and lacking.I can hear more elements in even samsungs lowest end phones than i9505 using the same earphones
Stay away from S4.
- Lollipop roms are okay but not very fast.
- Exynos AND snapdragon can overheat actually depends on the kernel.
- microphone distortion (personally) which I can hear as I play back the call recording
- not as fast or smooth as I expected for quad core when I previously had S5 mini
- Sometimes run out of ram but not too often
Generally just don't expect much. The specs look really good on paper but it's actually not that good a phone.
The screen resolution is very high which is nice.
Camera quality / focus is average as well. Slow to focus. Quality average.
I suggest buy 2nd hand used S5 or S6.
Unfortunately no S6 mini.
@fatjoez
1. Really? 5.1.1 is okay for me.
2. I've a device with Intel processor and it does the same thing. In short: All CPUs could overheat.
3. -skipped-
4. Blame Samsung's policies.
5. I'm only felt it on TW ROMs.
And no, I won't buy Exynos devices. Devices with Snapdragon SOCs are the best choice.
But, it's up to you. I couldn't interfere your mind.
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Well I bought a oneplus x. Been using it for one day and I'm not sure about it. Works OK. Speed us good but it's just too big. I just wish I could find a phone the same size as the 2013 moto x. Now I'm thinking either a S4 or Z5 compact. :/
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