There are many recognised Rom developers for this phone. My research so far From what I have read has shown that the best roms are the ones with Uber TC. Just wanted to know if this Uber toolchain thing is kernel dependant or Rom dependant.
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So it would seem that Linaro have done some toolchain optimisation and come up with a version of 4.0.4 AOSP that runs significantly faster than stock AOSP. I searched a little and found all the threads that say that optimised toolchains don't actually do anything, but this seems to be definitive proof that they do.
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Hey Guys, a question:
With all this hoo-hah about the linaro toolchain improving performance, I was wondering what it is exactly and whether it is possible to somehow make it a flashable zip so we can all flash it to our phones and live life in the fast lane lol.
Thoughts? Ideas? Info? Anyone done it?
It's set when compiling the source, it cannot be added on afterward. The ROM/kernel itself is either built with it or with something else. So far there has been little success performance wise in comparison to the claims, however some kernels and ROMs have been built with it (check out the dev section). Don't expect mind boggling performance out of anything claiming so because of linaro.
cheers mate, cleared many misconceptions. how good was state of origin aye?
No worries
I've been going through exams here so didn't get a chance to watch game 2. I should check out the highlights.
I see enough threads talking about this kernel, but it never interested me, but so much talk about this "kernel", I wanted to know what it is she, perhaps some improvement configuration and development of rom? I do not know, but I think for me that is basically it would help in structure ..
What is a "Kernel"?
In a nutshell (pun intended ), your answer is the first paragraph from here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/31632/what-is-the-linux-kernel-and-what-does-it-do/
Yes, but ok, many smartphones of the same model have a different kernel, for example, my kernel is P3100UBLH1 and another P3100 would P3100XXXX1, what i wanted to know, is in accordance with Samsung's own updates the kernel can improve, type in performance, processing ... among others.
Iago-Cobain said:
Yes, but ok, many smartphones of the same model have a different kernel, for example, my kernel is P3100UBLH1 and another P3100 would P3100XXXX1, what i wanted to know, is in accordance with Samsung's own updates the kernel can improve, type in performance, processing ... among others.
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Kernels are specific to a device, like even if you have a US model and an International model they will commonly have different kernels even for that, from the manufacture as they upgrade the versions of android they typically move to the proper kernel fror that version of android. Then you have custom kernels where people have added different governors and CPU speeds (to allow overclocking).
Put as simply as possible a Kernel is what tells the OS (called a ROM) how to work with the hardware of the device.
give this a read http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel
kernels are like.. drivers for specific hardware.. right? or something else?
Yeah pretty much.
In short. No kernel. No android.
First I saw a linaro kernel and now im seeing linaro aosp roms. What is the benefits of Linaro(either rom or kernel or both) over stock, or basic aosp or even the big roms like aokp and cm?
Linaro is a toolchain used in the compilation of roms. Its supposed to be extra efficient. Some kernels are compiled with linaro too. Kernel devs seem divided on whether it adds any benefit in a kernel-only build or not.
I tend to not waste energy thinking about it.
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Linaro is a toolchain used in the compilation of roms. Its supposed to be extra efficient. Some kernels are compiled with linaro too. Kernel devs seem divided on whether it adds any benefit in a kernel-only build or not.
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you dont sound too convinced
is it supposed to be better for battery life? better with background services? faster?
i saw one benchmark of linaro with dalvik patches and they're getting the same score i did on cataclysm with bionic/dalvik optimization patches
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you dont sound too convinced
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Well devs are divided on whether building only a kernel with linaro has benefits or not. I know less than kernel devs so I haven't got an opinion. All I can say is choosing a kernel build with linaro is not on my priorities list.
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you dont sound too convinced
is it supposed to be better for battery life? better with background services? faster?
i saw one benchmark of linaro with dalvik patches and they're getting the same score i did on cataclysm with bionic/dalvik optimization patches
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it has nothing to do with battery life and background services. all it is is a toolchain used to build roms and kernels. just because the developers of the linaro toolchain published that their toolchain improved performance two years ago, some people now believe it improves performance. compared to what they used as a comparison, it did. but they used an old toolchain to compare it to. but the google toolchain does just as good as the linaro toolchain, if not better. linaro is just a buzzword, nothing more. people add it into their titles for their roms or kernels to make people think that their rom or kernel is special, but it doesnt make a difference in reality. it is just a buzzword.
thanks for the help guys. im sorry if i came off noobish
I recently flashed syberia os ROM as it claims to have EAS enabled in it and after that everything went flawlessly either it's animations or app open speeds or optimisation. Especially device animations in playstore, scrolling at desktop or in app and Google feed which usually show regular stuttering in other pie based ROMs are very smooth and EAS might be a response to this thing ,So I really want to make request to Devs to integrate this thing in their upcoming builds and If u guys think it's right then do participate in POll.
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I recently flashed syberia os ROM as it claims to have EAS enabled in it and after that everything went flawlessly either it's animations or app open speeds or optimisation. Especially device animations in playstore, scrolling at desktop or in app and Google feed which usually show regular stuttering in other pie based ROMs are very smooth and EAS might be a response to this thing ,So I really want to make request to Devs to integrate this thing in their upcoming builds and If u guys think it's right then do participate in POll.
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Are you sure about that ROM really using EAS? The dev not just copied the description from the syberia gemini thread?
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Are you sure about that ROM really using EAS? The dev not just copied the description from the syberia gemini thread?
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I think yes,as its feel is noticeably smoother than other aosp based ROMs , even when compared to Vannila Aosip ,arrow os and pixel experience And moreover all the things mentioned in description are present there in ROM as I checked which might be Pointing towards presence of EAS also and kernel used is also different than others , it's Syberia+.
I searched for that standalone kernel to put in other roms also but can't able to dig that from Their sources so it's exclusive for that one only.
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I think yes,as its feel is noticeably smoother than other aosp based ROMs , even when compared to Vannila Aosip ,arrow os and pixel experience And moreover all the things mentioned in description are present there in ROM as I checked which might be Pointing towards presence of EAS also and kernel used is also different than others , it's Syberia+.
I searched for that standalone kernel to put in other roms also but can't able to dig that from Their sources so it's exclusive for that one only.
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I don't think it has eas kernel. it uses interactive governer and other hmp governer whereas eas governer should have schedutil darkutil governors like this. I think its not an eas kernel
Nitin890 said:
I recently flashed syberia os ROM as it claims to have EAS enabled in it and after that everything went flawlessly either it's animations or app open speeds or optimisation. Especially device animations in playstore, scrolling at desktop or in app and Google feed which usually show regular stuttering in other pie based ROMs are very smooth and EAS might be a response to this thing ,So I really want to make request to Devs to integrate this thing in their upcoming builds and If u guys think it's right then do participate in POll.
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Its not EAS kernel of Syberia os kernel unfortunately the devoloper has just reported that
John Amin said:
Its not EAS kernel of Syberia os kernel unfortunately the devoloper has just reported that
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Sorry i apologize for this thing but I still I am not going to delete this poll as I really wanted Dev's to incorporate this thing in their ROM builds and to know how many people want this.
So please make ur poll ,my advise to all.
if you want true EAS kernel use kangaroox kernel it has EAS kernel for both miui and AOSP roms
Lmao. First things, Syberia rom is not using EAS kernel afaik. Second thing there is no use of EAS until we get an energy cost model for sd660.