[Q] XNPH05Q - Disable system update alltogether? - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I tried finding for a way to disable system updates (OTA's) completely. The search function revealed some methods, but all of them seem to be device specific - anyone got an idea how to kill updates on the OPO? Reason being is that I am very very happy with my current setup, and I don't want to change it under any circumstances (and if I do at some point, it should be my decission). So I keep canceling update notifications, but the phone is still downloading them - at 90MB each. And keeps doing so whenever I cancel, so I'm wasting 500-600 MB per month out of my 3GB data package.
Phone is fully rooted, running stock CM11-XNPH05Q with TWRP 2.8.5.1 bacon.
Any help would be highly appreciated!

Goto System/apps Find any app related to OTA updates Just Delete it and reboot.
Use Root explorer.

pratyush369 said:
Goto System/apps Find any app related to OTA updates Just Delete it and reboot.
Use Root explorer.
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Oh no, don't delete it, that's a terrible idea. First, it won't work, you can't just delete system apps through that menu. Secondly, you have no idea if deleting a system app is going to send the phone into an unrecoverable boot loop. The best idea is to freeze the update app with Titanium Backup, root required of course.
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Viking84 said:
Hi all,
I tried finding for a way to disable system updates (OTA's) completely. The search function revealed some methods, but all of them seem to be device specific - anyone got an idea how to kill updates on the OPO? Reason being is that I am very very happy with my current setup, and I don't want to change it under any circumstances (and if I do at some point, it should be my decission). So I keep canceling update notifications, but the phone is still downloading them - at 90MB each. And keeps doing so whenever I cancel, so I'm wasting 500-600 MB per month out of my 3GB data package.
Phone is fully rooted, running stock CM11-XNPH05Q with TWRP 2.8.5.1 bacon.
Any help would be highly appreciated!
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Isn't CM11-XNPH05Q the latest OTA? So what updates would you be nagged about then? I'm on 44S and I've freezed the system update apk to stop being nagged about installing CM11-XNPH05Q.

aussieglis said:
Isn't CM11-XNPH05Q the latest OTA? So what updates would you be nagged about then? I'm on 44S and I've freezed the system update apk to stop being nagged about installing CM11-XNPH05Q.
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I have been nagged with all updates since I got the OPO about 9 months ago, I configured my phone the way I wanted it back then, didn't miss any particular features and never encountered any specific bugs that annoyed me. Just last weekend I updated to 05Q to get rid of notifications for now, and the new updated that pushed some unwanted software on me (swiftkey and something else that installed as system apps) fortified my decision to get rid of all future update and not change the running system again. Oh and it sucks to re-root every time, survival mode of SuperSU Pro doesn't seem to work.

Do you realise that there's a reason for updates? They bring fixes for bugs, added fluidity and/or stability, added features, plus a metric crap-ton of stuff under the hood. Plus, it literally takes me 30 seconds to flash SuperSU after an update.

Well as I said, I don't care about new features if I'm happy with the current ones, and if there are no obvious bugs, I don't care.
And I really, really hate it when dev's are pushing unwanted crap [aka 'system apps'] on me.

Fair enough, if you're happy with the phone the way it is, leave it the way it is.

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How to stop lollipop from installing automatically?

I have just noticed my G3 is taking the ota without asking for my approval. How can I stop it from doing it again? Thanks in advance.
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I went to the dialer keypad and typed in 3845#*850#, the 850 is my model number. Change it to your model # and secret menu will appear. Tap on WLAN settings and it will show OTA updates and pick disable. That's it. Worked for me.
Did that but the phone will still try to install. The reason I know is because my phone will be boot looping in twrp. At first I thought I did something crazy until this morning I saw a message saying phone will install update and will reboot in 10 seconds. Good thing is that I have the boot loop fix zip file in my sdcard.
I kept having this happen to me as well, even after disabling the option in the secret menu. I ended up installing the 855 minus 5 ROM.
I actually had that happen as well. My whole system was gone and stuck in twrp. I downloaded the copy of the 10f stock file and the zip fix file. Thought everything was good, then the update popped up again in the notifation bar, so I made a backup in twrp and tried disabling notifications. The next morning it started to auto install and it failed. Stuck in twrp again, ran my backup then disabled notifications again. Haven't seen the update again in the notifications. Hopefully it won't come back.
Using TiBu, I disabled/froze com.leg.lgfota.permission and Software Update and I have not had any issues.
Sent from my LG G3 D850
So I tried Titanium Backup. Couldn't figure out how to do it. I also noticed I couldn't send or receive MMS pics. Did some searching and on Google Play, there is an app called Disable Service. Download the app, open it, click on system at the top, scroll down to Google Play Services and click on it. Scroll down to SystemUpdateService and uncheck the box. I also went down to software update and unchecked all 3 of those boxes. Restart your phone and you're done. I also re enabled the setting in the secret menu. Now my pics come through again and the update disappeared when I restarted the phone.
Can the OTA be undone?
auky said:
I have just noticed my G3 is taking the ota without asking for my approval. How can I stop it from doing it again? Thanks in advance.
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This may be a dumb question but I had something similar happen and I'm desperately looking for a way to reverse things. My D850 was rooted, still stock but tweaked to PERFECTION, and I was under the false impression that the OTA checked for root and wouldn't proceed, so when I got the notification that the update was available I dismissed it and didn't think about it. Next morning I woke up to find the OTA happened without any action from me and of course I lost root. The phone is now really sluggish with numerous nuisances and I hate it. AT&T really f'd up my perfect G3. I chose not to factory reset or clear the cache as some have suggested to improve performance. I guess I was hoping that with everything still installed there might be some hope to regain root.
I'm reading about people going back back and flashing zip files but I don't get how it's being done. I did not have a custom recovery installed but I did have a backup with Titanium, although I obviously can't get into that now without root. The really odd thing is that Softcard still thinks it's rooted and won't run. Anybody have any ideas?
Thanks,
...Joe K.
jkovacs89 said:
This may be a dumb question but I had something similar happen and I'm desperately looking for a way to reverse things. My D850 was rooted, still stock but tweaked to PERFECTION, and I was under the false impression that the OTA checked for root and wouldn't proceed, so when I got the notification that the update was available I dismissed it and didn't think about it. Next morning I woke up to find the OTA happened without any action from me and of course I lost root. The phone is now really sluggish with numerous nuisances and I hate it. AT&T really f'd up my perfect G3. I chose not to factory reset or clear the cache as some have suggested to improve performance. I guess I was hoping that with everything still installed there might be some hope to regain root.
I'm reading about people going back back and flashing zip files but I don't get how it's being done. I did not have a custom recovery installed but I did have a backup with Titanium, although I obviously can't get into that now without root. The really odd thing is that Softcard still thinks it's rooted and won't run. Anybody have any ideas?
Thanks,
...Joe K.
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I'm afraid you wont be able to go back to rooted kitkat without having to clean install as there is no root for Lollipop yet.
aybarrap1 said:
Using TiBu, I disabled/froze com.leg.lgfota.permission and Software Update and I have not had any issues.
Sent from my LG G3 D850
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Hey aybarrap just curious if the TiBu freezing has held up. Took your advice and did the same. Just curious if you've had any issues so I can be on the lookout.
adosin said:
Hey aybarrap just curious if the TiBu freezing has held up. Took your advice and did the same. Just curious if you've had any issues so I can be on the lookout.
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I have NOT received a single nag or download for OTA. I have had these frozen for over two months without seeing any issues in the phone's operations. In fact I waited 10 days after the 10f was released before installing and had no issues.

Stock ROM: Root & OTA Updates

My new MOTO G 2015 XT1540 16GB/2GB will be delivered early next week. I have been trying to do all my reading in advance. Ideally I would like to keep the stock ROM, root the device, and keep receiving OTA updates.
My understanding to date is it is possible root without installing (flashing) TWRP. And by fast booting TWRP (vice installing) I can root the phone, keep the stock boot loader, and receive OTA updates as long as I completely unroot the device prior to updating. What is not clear to me is if I can keep receive OTA updates and not break the phone under the following circumstances:
1) custom kernel installed
2) adding apps to the system such as Cerberus (I know it can be elsewhere)
3) adding apps that require root such as Adfree (modifying host file)
4) freezing or removing system apps (bloatware)
Any suggestions how to proceed would be greatly appreciated.
Freezing/adding apps doesn't affect ota's,
HelpMeruth said:
Freezing/adding apps doesn't affect ota's,
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Uhh, yes it does, at least sometimes. My last OTA failed until a bug report to Motorola traced it to system apps I had frozen. I don't think it matters now, at least with Titanium and Marshmallow. Many of the system apps I uninstall or freeze come un-frozen after a reboot. All that I uninstall become installed again after a reboot. I don't know if that's a Titanium Backup problem with Marshmallow or what.
Tel864 said:
My last OTA failed until a bug report to Motorola traced it to system apps I had frozen.
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So your update simply failed with no ill effect on the phone?
Were you using the stock kernel?
MrTooPhone said:
So your update simply failed with no ill effect on the phone?
Were you using the stock kernel?
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No lasting ill effect. Yes, everything stock. I had previously un-rooted which won't stop the OTA download, just the install. When the install still failed, I had forgotten that I'd frozen some Google apps, Gmail, Play Movies & TV, and Google Play Music. When the OTA kept failing to install, Motorola had me send a bug report. After I unfroze the above apps, the update seemed to go through fine. This had not happened on earlier versions of Android, so I'm thinking something changed or maybe it was just a bug in my software, who knows. You don't get a lot of feedback from Motorola. I think you have a better chance of winning the lottery or getting struck by lightning.

Looking to Update Software to Most Recent Version

I have a rooted Verizon device that is running stock 4.1.2, since I have the unlimited data and use the free hotspot toggle.
Well, almost none of the current apps works with my phone anymore, its getting very frustrating. I'd like to unroot my phone and just get to the most recent software, then buy Foxfi for the hotspot...will that work?
Is there a better option? Can I upgrade the software without unrooting ?
Any help would be apprecaited, thanks!
duffycoug said:
I have a rooted Verizon device that is running stock 4.1.2, since I have the unlimited data and use the free hotspot toggle.
Well, almost none of the current apps works with my phone anymore, its getting very frustrating. I'd like to unroot my phone and just get to the most recent software, then buy Foxfi for the hotspot...will that work?
Is there a better option? Can I upgrade the software without unrooting ?
Any help would be apprecaited, thanks!
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If you want to take the OTA update you will need to unroot. I would highly advise against this as you will permanently lock your bootloader down but if that's what you choose then so be it
Sent from my Nexus 5
Ok, then what would you suggest I do?? Is there a ROM i can flash to update the software and still use the hotspot free?
duffycoug said:
Ok, then what would you suggest I do?? Is there a ROM i can flash to update the software and still use the hotspot free?
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I see foxfi hasn't been updated in the play store in nearly 3 years. Some roms have the Hotspot feature built in as far as what roms have it built in, as far as newer roms that much I don't know. I'm running the last build of CleanRom and its built in.
I understand a lot of apps currently require a newer version of Android to run. My suggestion would be to check out the development forums for the VZW S3 and see which roms have it built in rather than having to buy the app itself
Sent from my Nexus 6
I tried reading up, but this seems intimidating. Maybe you can point me in the right direction...my ONLY needs are a working camera (slow motion would be VERY nice to have if available), hotspot tether that I can use without paying the monthly fee (I have unlimited data), and software version that actually works with apps from the playstore.
As far as I know, I have 4.1.2 software, unlocked bootloader and I'm rooted.
duffycoug said:
I tried reading up, but this seems intimidating. Maybe you can point me in the right direction...my ONLY needs are a working camera (slow motion would be VERY nice to have if available), hotspot tether that I can use without paying the monthly fee (I have unlimited data), and software version that actually works with apps from the playstore.
As far as I know, I have 4.1.2 software, unlocked bootloader and I'm rooted.
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Ok what android version are you looking to be on?
Sent from my Nexus 6
I dont' really care at all, just one that will work with apps from the play store. Most apps now need at least version 4.2.....I'd like to be on the newest version I can be that has a working camera and hotspot....i'm assuming if I go to a ROM i can still use apps from the play store?
duffycoug said:
I dont' really care at all, just one that will work with apps from the play store. Most apps now need at least version 4.2.....I'd like to be on the newest version I can be that has a working camera and hotspot....i'm assuming if I go to a ROM i can still use apps from the play store?
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Of course. I hardly ever run stock on any of my devices. I think my N6 is the only one but it's customized. CleanRom is on version 4.3 I'm not sure about AllianceRom which I also have uploaded to my AFH account
Sent from my Nexus 6
where do i find cleanrom?
duffycoug said:
where do i find cleanrom?
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I'll send you a PM with the link
Sent from my Nexus 6
I'll also chime in. If OP is looking to update his phone, there are 2 paths. The stock path, which will be up to KitKat based roms (android 4.4) because that was the last update the S3 ever received. You could install something like superliterom (found in our android developement thread). But from your needs (hotspot, and camera) you can go all the way on to marshmallow (android 6) using CM13 which is what I'm running. The only bugs now are bluetooth (it may crash if you're playing music through bluetooth and receiving a call through bluetooth like in a car for example), gps is slow to lock (which is a problem is most of the CM roms), and some minor front camera bugs ie. instagram will crash, but every other camera and video camera/video calling app will work that I've tried. If I was in your shoes, I would try CM13 to see if you like it, and then bounce down from there to a 4.4 or 4.3 rom as a solid 2nd or third choice. I went from cleanrom, to alliance 4.3, to cm12.1 (I could never get gps to lock on this, but everything else worked), to cm13. They are all solid. Even something like slimkat 4.4 has pretty good reviews. But don't ever take the OTA update...there is no point in that now besides locking your phone forever and limiting the usability of your phone.
I'm sorry if this is a really stupid question, but if I install cm13 will I lose all my text messages, emails, app settings, etc.??
duffycoug said:
I'm sorry if this is a really stupid question, but if I install cm13 will I lose all my text messages, emails, app settings, etc.??
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Yes. I wouldn't suggest updating to a newer rom without wiping the internal storage. You could always backup text messages. Emails automatically save to the Gmail app and the app settings well that can't be recovered but you could always set it the way it was previously
Sent from my Nexus 6
so as long as i back up my messages on verizon cloud (which i do) they will be restored once i put cloud on and sign back in??
duffycoug said:
so as long as i back up my messages on verizon cloud (which i do) they will be restored once i put cloud on and sign back in??
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Correct. You can use third party apps as well. I've been using one for years and it catches call logs also
Sent from my Nexus 6
Ok, so I've downloaded "Oct-M-R1-6.0.1 for d2vzw", the MD5 checksum, and "open_gapps-arm-6.0-stock-20160806".
I have just installed TWRP 3.0.2 on my device and it appears to be working.
Now what?
Put the files onto my microsd or onto my phone storage?
Install from TWRP and that's it?
I have titanium backup, should I run that first? OR is there a backup option from twrp??
VERY specific directions would be appreciated! Thanks LOL
PS - One last thing, what developer options need to be checked or unchecked if any in my phone settings.
duffycoug said:
Ok, so I've downloaded "Oct-M-R1-6.0.1 for d2vzw", the MD5 checksum, and "open_gapps-arm-6.0-stock-20160806".
I have just installed TWRP 3.0.2 on my device and it appears to be working.
Now what?
Put the files onto my microsd or onto my phone storage?
Install from TWRP and that's it?
I have titanium backup, should I run that first? OR is there a backup option from twrp??
VERY specific directions would be appreciated! Thanks LOL
PS - One last thing, what developer options need to be checked or unchecked if any in my phone settings.
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In developer options you really only need to enable USB debugging.
As far as installing the rom putting it on your SD card should be efficient or once in TWRP you can mount the internal and move it into there if connected to a pc. As far as installing it's pretty straight forward.
Wipe internal completely but DO NOT wipe your SD card. Install the zip first then gapps and ensure you wipe cache and dalvik. Once done reboot and let the device sit for about 10 minutes without touching it to let the rom settle down, once done just reinstall everything. I do not recommend to install apps via titanium backup (i.e. Data for those apps) anymore questions feel free to ask
Sent from my Nexus 6
Ok, I started the process. Did my backup from twrp and then installed the zip from my sd and gapp at same time...phone has been in a boot loop for about an hour....every now and then it says "Android Starting - optimizing apps", then starting apps....should i just keep waiting or redo it???
duffycoug said:
Ok, I started the process. Did my backup from twrp and then installed the zip from my sd and gapp at same time...phone has been in a boot loop for about an hour....every now and then it says "Android Starting - optimizing apps", then starting apps....should i just keep waiting or redo it???
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The rom may of not played well with the device. I installed lollipop on my S3 and it was quite slow. I'd say restore the backup but you can try installing it again but I forewarn you that it may just not work at all
Sent from my Nexus 6
Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I restored my version, worked fine...then tried again and got boot loop again...back to my 4.1.2 for now until I can figure it out. Second time I went into advanced and wiped the system, too...didn't help.
Any other suggestions would be appreciated....could I have a bad zip file?
I came across this link https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=d2vzw , which should I download? What's the difference between all of these versions? Nightly vs. Snapshot vs. Stable? Also, what is the "Release" and the "Recovery"

Android OS Data Usage

Lately my Android OS has been using A LOT of data. I'm just curious to see if anyone else has had the issue.
In the last 30 days, my Android OS has used approx. 27 GB.
I am rooted, and was on NDE63V when this occurred.
I am currently in the process of updating my phone to the latest firmware for (what I believe is) only Canadian carriers. So I am hoping the solves the issue.
I downloaded a data usage app which helps limit apps from using data, and tells me which ones are doing it.
Currently, through this app my usage falls under:
Android System - 11 GB
com.qti.service.colorservice - 6.8 GB
com.qualcomm.atfwd - 6.8 GB
com.qualcomm.fastdormancy - 3.8 GB
At first it was just the fastdormancy one that was getting me, until I went into TiBU and froze it. After that, it stopped using data but the other 3 really started eating up my data.
I feel like I was going to post more in this, so if anyone wants more relevant information, please let me know. I really need this figured out. I have had to upgrade my plan from 10gb to 25 gb and now I am already 8gb over my limit. Last night I was 4gb under it. My phone has somehow used 12 gb in roughly 14 hours.
I checked my brothers stock Pixel XL, and Android OS has used only (but still seems like a lot) 300mb. Which I attributed to his update to the latest firmware for Canadian carriers, which was roughly 260mb.
Can anyone help shed some light onto what is happening with my data?
Possibly related to the seemless update function failing because of root. The pixel can't apply the update and keeps downloading it over and over again. for me applying the latest OTA fixed the issue. another solution is to disable the automatic updates in the developer options
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My mobile data usage has doubled after moving to the PIxel despite near identical usage to previous phone.
For me com.qti.service.colorservice is the culprit but have no idea why or what it is for.
Alex
noonecanhide said:
Possibly related to the seemless update function failing because of root. The pixel can't apply the update and keeps downloading it over and over again. for me applying the latest OTA fixed the issue. another solution is to disable the automatic updates in the developer options
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That's what I was thinking. I just applied the update last night and re rooted. Everything seems fine so far. I'll have a better idea at the end of the day.
GeekMcLeod said:
That's what I was thinking. I just applied the update last night and re rooted. Everything seems fine so far. I'll have a better idea at the end of the day.
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Any update on this? I'm rooted, so it's a little inconvenient for me to apply the update.
ryan4a said:
Any update on this? I'm rooted, so it's a little inconvenient for me to apply the update.
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You need to apply the update for the issue to be resolved. I too had this problem.
drocny87 said:
You need to apply the update for the issue to be resolved. I too had this problem.
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Bummer! I was hoping it was a setting fix. Still not sure why it started happening for no reason. I'll have to back up my data, wipe, sideload the update, re-root, then restore my data. I was hoping to avoid all that mess, but it seems to be the only way to apply the update.
ryan4a said:
Bummer! I was hoping it was a setting fix. Still not sure why it started happening for no reason. I'll have to back up my data, wipe, sideload the update, re-root, then restore my data. I was hoping to avoid all that mess, but it seems to be the only way to apply the update.
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I never had to do that to update to the latest. I just followed this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69576990&postcount=7
You do lose root and that sorta thing but you do not lose any data doing this.
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I never had to do that to update to the latest. I just followed this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69576990&postcount=7
You do lose root and that sorta thing but you do not lose any data doing this.
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That is a guide to manually update your phone through fastboot. The toolkit will do all of that without typing any commands just choose no when it asks to format data and you will not lose data.
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That is a guide to manually update your phone through fastboot. The toolkit will do all of that without typing any commands just choose no when it asks to format data and tou will not lose data.
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To each their own. Just simply stated the way that I did it to not lose data as I prefer manually doing it.
I had the EXACT same issue that I struggled with. There's a bug on the build you're on and it'll keep trying to download that OTA as long as you have data enabled (regardless if Wifi is enabled - ARG!!!).
I just got over $50 in usage charges that I know of, then I left my phone on with data and my bill says $600..... I flashed NMF26Q and it corrected the issue. Only a mb or two every few hours. With this bug, I was downloading a gig a day! Need to call my carrier and see if they'll credit some of those charges. Hope this helps!
my phone used over 110gb of data last month because of this error I am getting a refund from verizon now but has anyone figured out the problem? I just updated to the latest version and hope it stops killing my data otherwise i dont know what to do
Sideloaded 7.1.1 from 7.1 tonight.
Hope this fixes my issue!
Thanks for the help gents!
Artnig said:
my phone used over 110gb of data last month because of this error I am getting a refund from verizon now but has anyone figured out the problem? I just updated to the latest version and hope it stops killing my data otherwise i dont know what to do
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Wow, 110gb of behind the scenes data is a lot to go unnoticed!

Resetting s7

Will factory resetting my phone remove all updates, and leave me with only the newest update as an option? I rooted to prevent the last update, since I use foxfi.
Rageboardr said:
Will factory resetting my phone remove all updates, and leave me with only the newest update as an option? I rooted to prevent the last update, since I use foxfi.
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No it will remove all user data and apps installed after first start. Any pre-installed apps will maintain their updated version.
If you don't want nothing updating turn off auto update apps in play store and then on the phone if you don't want firmware updates, no need to root to prevent updates
I rooted because of the daily reminders to update. Then froze appropriate apps. I think there were three of them.
I did not realize there was a way to turn off the reminders directly, only postpone them.
Rageboardr said:
I rooted because of the daily reminders to update. Then froze appropriate apps. I think there were three of them.
I did not realize there was a way to turn off the reminders directly, only postpone them.
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Everything can be silenced in Android..... everything... (evil laugh)
OK. So that was not true. As soon as i reset my phone it began updating the system. There is no option anywhere to disable the update. I tried using BK Disabler like last time, but that app no longer is available, and its replacement only works with root. I have turned on airplane mode to stop the update, but it is at 97%. Is there an app that works like BK Disabler did, that will allow me to freeze the System update apps.
Please help. I'm hanging in limbo currently.
Not quite sure on your specifics but - I'm in the process of checking the differences between marshmallow and nougat on a snapdragon verizon s7. Downloading the nougat 7.0 update, then factory resetting showed a "installing software update" string on the bootloader (both FR'ing from bootloader and within android) , but when I booted all the way up it might as well have been stock 6.0.1.
Are you at a different point in the update or on a diff kernel?

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