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i currently have a droid x2. and while i would like to say that i could wait until the x-phone comes out, or the htc one comes out. i just cant stand having a non-functional phone anymore.
my question is:
do you guys think this phone is worth upgrading to ?
does development seem to be growing since unlock? ( does future development seem likely?) ( 5.0+ ? )
should i consider going with a galaxy device? (s3 or s4) i am kind of indifferent towards these plasticy devices.
i like motorola a lot. their build quality is fantastic. but i am not sure how i feel about a non removable battery (essentially limiting the life of the phone) , or the slightly outdated specs.
just looking for some users two cents on the topic. thanks guys.
It's a great phone and if your worried about battery get the maxx version.
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deeje00 said:
it's a great phone and if your worried about battery get the maxx version.
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I love this phone....battery life of course is phenomenal and I've yet to hear of anyone's battery crapping out on them. I've had mine now for several months and I think I've used my car charger maybe once. And thats only because I didnt charge my phone the night before.
The whole S4 oct-core plasticky phone's are outright redonkulous. The 1.5 ghz dual core is all you really need.
As far as development, since the unlock, it's skyrocketed. And its just in its infancy. Hashcode already has a new Kernel up for review as we speak. Once Cynaogenmod approves, we'll get official support and the development will be on par with the rest of the other top tier devices.
This board is just the tip of the iceberg. Check out www.droidrzr.com for more...
I've owned many a phone, from the first Android with the G1 to the RAZR HD and I have honestly never had a more fast, stable and force close free phone. This device is truly amazing and the battery life is flipping incredible. My wife has an S3 and it's okay but I would definitely rather own this one over that.
Development has exploded, as of right now I am running the following Rom. Perfection... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2293262
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legend221 said:
I've owned many a phone, from the first Android with the G1 to the RAZR HD and I have honestly never had a more fast, stable and force close free phone. This device is truly amazing and the battery life is flipping incredible. My wife has an S3 and it's okay but I would definitely rather own this one over that.
Development has exploded, as of right now I am running the following Rom. Perfection... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2293262
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thank you sir. ! this helped a lot. its good to hear from someone who has seen both phones firsthand.
do you ever feel like the one gig of ram is not enough?
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
thank you sir. ! this helped a lot. its good to hear from someone who has seen both phones firsthand.
do you ever feel like the one gig of ram is not enough?
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You're welcome mate. The 1 GB of Ram is more than enough for my needs. I can have a lot of different apps running and never notice it sluggish or falling behind. I've seen a article or two mentioning that the camera isn't all that great and I can agree just a bit.
Only negatives are the non removable battery and the camera quality. All else is top notch.
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Similar decision
I figured I'd post this for anybody else considering the RAZR HD.
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I first used the original DX for two years before switching to the HD.
Here's my opinion:
Pros:
- Great battery. HD is good. MAXX is unbelievable
- Comfortable to use. Not too large, not too small, and a pleasure to operate.
- Removable storage
Cons:
- VERIZON. nuff said
- RAM used up fairly quickly.
- No removable battery (bad)
- NFC works fine, but the big V won't allow its customers to use Wallet
- Sound is meh.
- No OFFICIAL Cyanogenmod 10.1
- Unlocked bootloader = AP Fastboot EVERY power down AND you mustn't allow the battery to die with an unlocked bootloader.
I certainly love my HD more than the DX, but unless the X phone is amazing, I'm leaving Motorola.
I never see the fastboot screen unless I do it on purpose. And I've had my phone die quite a few times with no issues..
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deeje00 said:
I never see the fastboot screen unless I do it on purpose. And I've had my phone die quite a few times with no issues..
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Ya? What are they talking about. Never seen that either.
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I must say that I truly love this phone. seems snappy and honestly no issues. I am going to venture into flashing my first ROM tonight when I get off of work. I had a gnex, which had a ton of support. I didn't like it so I traded it in for the rezound. It had way less support, but the devs were awesome! I bought this phone on CL and I must say it has even less development. That is my only concern about this phone. I would hope that the unlocked boot loader would bring on more devs, but coming from an OG, to the X, it appears the devs are not feeling the moto love.. If I had the money Id buy my favorite devs this phone. I think they would love it..
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- Unlocked bootloader = AP Fastboot EVERY power down AND you mustn't allow the battery to die with an unlocked bootloader.
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Try This
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42272243&postcount=1
AP Fastboot every time can either be a Sticky Bit error (from not tweaking a fastboot's xml file before flashing with RSD) or just a bad flash somewhere in general. Ensure you're using the snapdragon fastboots located in Mattlgroffs section on the Batakang FTP whenever you're doing any kind of fastboot flashing on any RAZR QCOM phone -- Atrix HD, all RAZR HD variants, both Phonton Q 4G LTE's.
Reality check...
OK, so I've been through a LOT of Android devices, and this one has some poo that goes along with it (as many others have).
1. The radios have become worse over the generations. While LTE is technically faster now on this device, I had WAY more coverage on my POS Revolution, but this device smokes the Galaxy Nexus for LTE coverage hands down (SGN is a joke as an LTE device).
2. Phone is mediocre. This is where the SGN showed what it was supposed to really sound like on a phone. On a call to my dad, he stated in my car that it sounded like I was in a quiet room by myself. He definitely doesn't say that with this phone.
3. Gaming. This one irritates me the most. Every few minutes there is lag. Sometimes it's short lag, sometimes you drop to 5fps for 6-7 seconds. Try Subway Surfers - you'll want to chuck the phone at the wall. I'm guessing this is an IO issue as I saw this in the TF300, and whatever CleanROM did for the TF300, it made the term "buttery smooth" no longer tongue and cheek. I'd give anything (except stability and features) to see that on this phone.
4. ROMs - I can't comment on this one, but I've been following the threads for a while now, and there's still some dealbreaker trade-offs going on - hopefully we'll see less of that as time goes on (great improvements over just the past few weeks). I've been waiting for the right time to make the move.
5. Tethering - Interesting that less people have seem interested in this problem, but as an unlimited user, I have found NO possible way around VZW. I'm rooted and have tried WiFi tether in the configurations people have suggested in multiple forums with no luck. I've tried the SQL hacks, I've tried other programs, I've tried WFT 3.2b, I've tried every configuration you can think of. The best I have had was a connection, but no internet. Every thread suggests something, but from my experience, nothing works.
6. A little lag in Nova Launcher when waking up and switching between screens.
7. VZW and Motorola seem more interested in blocking the devs from cleaning up Moto's mess than fixing their own crap. With the Ultra coming out, I figure that they'll block it from devs the best they can with a few more updates, then jump ship to create a shinier turd and repeat the cycle.
8. Browsing is still slow, even on WiFi, but show me a phone where this isn't true?
The pros?
1. Battery life. This is hands down the best phone I've had for battery, and it's only the HD, not the Maxx.
2. Better LTE than an SGN? LOL...
3. Depending on your usage, it's a decent phone I guess. It's ok in between downright irritating lagging for games(laugh), the WiFi works, albeit a little slow in areas, it's average as a phone, and if you're just interested in checking your e-mail and doing navigation, it's not bad.
4. Decent built in storage space stock.
5. Pretty good sound - no complaints on the music front.
Just don't EXPECT tethering, or a decent, lag-free gaming experience.
I either have a knack for choosing bad phones, or Android just STILL isn't there in the phone arena yet, even with the greater specs. If the former is true, I wouldn't follow my devices (minus the TF300 - that was excellent with CleanROM).
I paid in cash, and if I had to do it all over again, I have no idea what I'd do... I'm starting to believe that the big V along with these manufacturers, they are just slapping coats of wax on turds, then high tailing off to put the next, bigger, and shinier turd in front of people. There's no pride put into the devices past the marketing strategy. I'm never going Apple, MS is still hard to take seriously, and Android? Maybe I'm just really bad at choosing phones.
Edit: as an aside, my dad loves his (late 50s), but he doesn't game or care about tethering (with me, it's not often as well, but when I do, I expect it to work well). For him, it is mostly just navi, e-mail, and on rare occasions, browsing.
Edit 2: why do we not see more reviews like this instead of "omg it's the bestest octacore beast with terapixel camera that makes poking your friends on FaceBook a breeze?" I think we need "pro" reviewers at well known sites to dig a little deeper, and actually use devices as hard-core daily drivers for a week or so before passing judgement.
I tether just fine using easy tether pro. Sure it's not wireless but it's an easy way to get Internet on my netbook once in a blue moon. Worked just fine before I rooted.
I don't really disagree with anything from the previous entry. You would think motorola mobility's acquisition would have significantly changed things for the better. All I saw was a loss of webtop support. And wow going from the support of the galaxy nexus forums to these was a bit of an adjustment.
I watched a video today at android central regarding specs. Why they become so important. You don't see the issue with apple or windows phone. Yes there's fewer devices. More options should cause a healthy competition and I think we're getting there.
I do love the battery life on this phone. It's the sole reason I have it. I do also appreciate that there aren't tons of issues with the display and having to deal with worrying about the quality of a replacement device. Nobody wants a phone they can't rely on or enjoy. I just think it's funny how my galaxy nexus had all the features a year ago and I'm just finally starting to have friends and acquaintances ask me or brag to me about them.
I do think the X phone and its customizable aspects are great for certain users. But look how apple sells the iPhone. They focus on a feature like its camera. Interesting stuff.
Maybe android needs a figurehead to blatantly lie about her/his health to the public and get backdated stock options.
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I do find it unsettling that technology advances so quickly that a device is much less popular in 6 months or a year. I feel this way especially because most people are in a contract for two years and are stuck with the device.
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At least with a computer, you can upgrade it. Give it a new display, video card, max out the ram and it's like Christmas. Perhaps one day technology will permit the majority of smartphones to not only expand their storage space, but also easily enhance the hardware.
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Question for you MOTO guys. I have a Note 2 currently. I've been looking to trade it for a while now. I have a guy wanting to trade straight up for a 1 month old Droid Maxx (the new version). I was looking for some opinions... I have owned the Razr, Razr HD, Razr Maxx HD and all of those seemed to lag bad. Can someone give me some input on this? Thanks in advance...
Also, I'm a craigslist pro and know everything necessary for the trading part. I'm only looking for input on the devices...
I went from the Note 2 to the Maxx and couldn't be happier. I notice no performance difference at all. The Note has a bit nicer screen (color-wise) but otherwise i can think of nothing that gives it an edge.
Keep in mind though, you'll be going to a very locked down phone with almost no development community. If you're a flash addict, this isn't the device for you.
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erishasnobattery said:
I went from the Note 2 to the Maxx and couldn't be happier. I notice no performance difference at all. The Note has a bit nicer screen (color-wise) but otherwise i can think of nothing that gives it an edge.
Keep in mind though, you'll be going to a very locked down phone with almost no development community. If you're a flash addict, this isn't the device for you.
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I had a feeling it was still like that. Without really researching it... I remember those days when I had the Droid X. Never could really truly change it all that much... I just want to be sure the lag that existed on the razr line isn't on this device. Hard to tell really by just looking at one at a store or I'd do that. The Maxx seems to be more "advanced", besides the screen. Wireless charging, the voice command features, etc. Is the camera a lot better than the previous models? They sucked bad.....
The maxx is just very stock android, which i prefer. I feel like the overlays like TW and Sense just haven't evolved much since the GB days. Yes, they're better than they were, but they aren't really leveraging everything android has to offer yet.
As far as the camera goes, i don't take a lot of pictures, as i have a camera for that. It does take decent pictures, but it doesn't have the features of the Samsung camera. It does ok for me, but a real picture-phile (i think i made that word up) will be disappointed.
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brandon2x said:
I had a feeling it was still like that. Without really researching it... I remember those days when I had the Droid X. Never could really truly change it all that much... I just want to be sure the lag that existed on the razr line isn't on this device. Hard to tell really by just looking at one at a store or I'd do that. The Maxx seems to be more "advanced", besides the screen. Wireless charging, the voice command features, etc. Is the camera a lot better than the previous models? They sucked bad.....
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The Maxx/Ultra run a very Vanillaish version of android which makes it really smooth and fast, not at all like the Razr HD. The camera is OK, not the best but they did just release a firmware update which improved the camera. Fwiw I have a Note II and a Maxx and the maxx is smoother and faster imho. While there isn't much development for the maxx you can get root and install recovery and used the xPosed framework which provides for some visual customization.
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The maxx is just very stock android, which i prefer. I feel like the overlays like TW and Sense just haven't evolved much since the GB days. Yes, they're better than they were, but they aren't really leveraging everything android has to offer yet.
As far as the camera goes, i don't take a lot of pictures, as i have a camera for that. It does take decent pictures, but it doesn't have the features of the Samsung camera. It does ok for me, but a real picture-phile (i think i made that word up) will be disappointed.
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Picture-phile... That's a good one.... I take A LOT of pictures with my phone. It's just more convenient and the pictures are as good or better than any digital camera I've personally ever owned... TW on the Note 2 seems pretty important to me. I am probably one of the only people who actually USE the s-pen quite often and the way its built in to TW just works... I think based off what you've told me, I'm going to stick with my Note. I appreciate your fast responses. Have a great day.
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Question for you MOTO guys. I have a Note 2 currently. I've been looking to trade it for a while now. I have a guy wanting to trade straight up for a 1 month old Droid Maxx (the new version). I was looking for some opinions... I have owned the Razr, Razr HD, Razr Maxx HD and all of those seemed to lag bad. Can someone give me some input on this? Thanks in advance...
Also, I'm a craigslist pro and know everything necessary for the trading part. I'm only looking for input on the devices...
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Not a Note 2 user here...buy I've had a GS3 since its launch day and just upgraded to a Maxx...I fell in love with the Maxx as soon as I started using it...
Development is a little scarce to say the least...but I almost don't even care...the stock performance beats the pants off any ROM/kernel/OC'ing I ever experienced on my GS3...
I do need to take the time to root this thing in the next couple of days but I dont even feel the desire for much else other than basic root functions...
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I was doing a comparison with my brother's N2 and my Maxx. This Maxx, with the LTE, was doing everything faster and smoother. Not once was his phone more responsive or as polished as the Maxx.
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I vote to keep the Note 2.
I'm a former Droid Razr owner...you'd be hard pressed into talking me into any phone that had a locked bootloader like the Motorola devices. Plus the Motorola devices just don't have the sales volume of Samsung so that's another reason that the development community is small. I just love the large amount of custom ROMs that are available for the top selling phones.
For the guy who just came from the S3, I've got Paranoid Android with 4.4 on mine and everything opens pretty much instantaneously. I wouldn't mind having more (Cores/RAM/Storage/Screen) but it would really just be for show. I can wait for my contract to be up before I get the "Next Big Thing" (S5?)
That being said I don't have any other specific complaints about the new Moto Droid devices and I am mulling over getting a Droid Mini on for my stepdaughter for Christmas. Using Early Edge since Verizon took the early upgrade program away, and I promised her a new phone if she kept up GPA above 3.5. It seems to have the same CPU and memory specs as the Maxx and the Ultra, just with a smaller screen. She'll never root it or anything. I wouldn't mind getting her the Ultra or Maxx either but I'm not sure she wants a device that big.
Which leads to my other question, I guess the Maxx/Ultra/Mini are all in this forum since they seem to have the same hardware specs?
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I vote to keep the Note 2.
I'm a former Droid Razr owner...you'd be hard pressed into talking me into any phone that had a locked bootloader like the Motorola devices. Plus the Motorola devices just don't have the sales volume of Samsung so that's another reason that the development community is small. I just love the large amount of custom ROMs that are available for the top selling phones.
For the guy who just came from the S3, I've got Paranoid Android with 4.4 on mine and everything opens pretty much instantaneously. I wouldn't mind having more (Cores/RAM/Storage/Screen) but it would really just be for show. I can wait for my contract to be up before I get the "Next Big Thing" (S5?)
That being said I don't have any other specific complaints about the new Moto Droid devices and I am mulling over getting a Droid Mini on for my stepdaughter for Christmas. Using Early Edge since Verizon took the early upgrade program away, and I promised her a new phone if she kept up GPA above 3.5. It seems to have the same CPU and memory specs as the Maxx and the Ultra, just with a smaller screen. She'll never root it or anything. I wouldn't mind getting her the Ultra or Maxx either but I'm not sure she wants a device that big.
Which leads to my other question, I guess the Maxx/Ultra/Mini are all in this forum since they seem to have the same hardware specs?
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Correct, this forum covers all of the new Droid line.
Personally I would consider a Moto X for your daughter over the Droid Mini. The specs are about the same but the Moto X feels much better in hand and is a much more stylish device. The Droid Ultra is the worst of both worlds and should not even be considered IMO. I have the Droid Maxx and my wife has the Moto X, and both are great devices with slightly different strengths (battery/screen size on the Maxx, form factor/customization on the Moto X).
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Correct, this forum covers all of the new Droid line.
Personally I would consider a Moto X for your daughter over the Droid Mini. The specs are about the same but the Moto X feels much better in hand and is a much more stylish device. The Droid Ultra is the worst of both worlds and should not even be considered IMO. I have the Droid Maxx and my wife has the Moto X, and both are great devices with slightly different strengths (battery/screen size on the Maxx, form factor/customization on the Moto X).
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Stylish? Huh, she shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. I told her in July I wouldn't be able to get her another phone until May because Verizon had done away with the early upgrade program.
This is based on what I feel like paying. I am going above and beyond to do this for her. Even her mother encouraged me not to do it, but I feel the need to keep my original promise I made last Christmas. And I feel a little bad making her have a Droid Razr with a battery that broke, then an Xperia Play I had sitting around, and then (now) a used Droid Bionic I got off of Ebay.
So...
In the Edge program you basically pay for it every month, full retail divided by 24 months, so the Mini is appealing because full the retail price is only $349, or $14.54 per month. I think the Moto X was $549 so it would be $22.89 a month.
I can buy a 6 pack of Blue Moon with the leftover 8 dollars.
The other thing is that if I was going to go with a larger more expensive phone I like the G2 better than the MotoX. But I haven't looked at any reviews of the MotoX or the G2 either. I hated the HTC interface, and considering I will have to support her remotely, rather have an interface I can deal with. The S4 is not an option because it costs more than the other phones in the same class.
I could put my line on Edge, and do a hand-me-down with my S3 that works perfectly. But I would want an S4 out of that group and it would cost more. I'd rather wait until May when my contract is up and then I can re-up for another 2 year with either an S4 or S5.
So given all that, the Mini seems like a pretty good option considering I'm only paying $349 out of pocket and it has similar specs to all the other current gen Moto phones. But if she really wants a 5" phone we'll talk when she gets in town on Friday.
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Stylish? Huh, she shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. I told her in July I wouldn't be able to get her another phone until May because Verizon had done away with the early upgrade program.
This is based on what I feel like paying. I am going above and beyond to do this for her. Even her mother encouraged me not to do it, but I feel the need to keep my original promise I made last Christmas. And I feel a little bad making her have a Droid Razr with a battery that broke, then an Xperia Play I had sitting around, and then (now) a used Droid Bionic I got off of Ebay.
So...
In the Edge program you basically pay for it every month, full retail divided by 24 months, so the Mini is appealing because full the retail price is only $349, or $14.54 per month. I think the Moto X was $549 so it would be $22.89 a month.
I can buy a 6 pack of Blue Moon with the leftover 8 dollars.
The other thing is that if I was going to go with a larger more expensive phone I like the G2 better than the MotoX. But I haven't looked at any reviews of the MotoX or the G2 either. I hated the HTC interface, and considering I will have to support her remotely, rather have an interface I can deal with. The S4 is not an option because it costs more than the other phones in the same class.
I could put my line on Edge, and do a hand-me-down with my S3 that works perfectly. But I would want an S4 out of that group and it would cost more. I'd rather wait until May when my contract is up and then I can re-up for another 2 year with either an S4 or S5.
So given all that, the Mini seems like a pretty good option considering I'm only paying $349 out of pocket and it has similar specs to all the other current gen Moto phones. But if she really wants a 5" phone we'll talk when she gets in town on Friday.
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Didn't realize you were buying off contract ... in that case sure the Droid Mini is a very good choice. As for 5" displays, the Droid Maxx is now $499 off contract which is probably the best deal going in that class (price might be good online only though, not 100% sure). I think of the Moto X as the same class as the Droid Mini because the form factor is so small, although it does have a slightly larger display (4.7" vs. 4.3").
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Didn't realize you were buying off contract ... in that case sure the Droid Mini is a very good choice. As for 5" displays, the Droid Maxx is now $499 off contract which is probably the best deal going in that class (price might be good online only though, not 100% sure). I think of the Moto X as the same class as the Droid Mini because the form factor is so small, although it does have a slightly larger display (4.7" vs. 4.3").
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Update: The Maxx just dropped to $449 off-contract today. Amazing deal IMO.
TL;DR - What flagship should I get next that I can root and unlock?
After being on the 2013 Developer Edition of the Moto X since it's release, I think it's time for a new phone with some more power behind it. I've been rooted and unlocked for a couple years, switching between multiple ROMs and using Xposed modules, so the hope is unlocking the bootloader won't be a pain in the ass like it was on my old Galaxy S3.
I know several people who have the S6 (non Edge model) and love it and the build quality/features. After a bad experience with Samsung bootloaders, bloatware, and stuck in the legacy channel for ROM support, it makes me wary to give my love away to something I may hate long term. Personally, I'd opt out of the Edge screen.
The Moto X Pure is coming out in September and after having a great experience on Moto, it looks like a strong contender for me. The Pure will get updates first and come unlocked (what kind of bootloader will come on it- or do you install one yourself?). I could not care less about Moto Maker, but the camera sounds like a great upgrade.
We've all heard the hype about the One Plus Two and now that its out and reviews have been surfacing it's positioned as the device to beat. I'm on board since it runs Oxygen and has the best specs on paper. Getting an invite doesn't seem too difficult, but the limited supply creates an issue in acquiring one.
And then I have the Nexus 5 2015 whose specs just got leaked is the most notable I have to consider. Android M is slated to be released in October/November, and that is when I expect the handset will drop too. Almost every Android enthusiast has wanted a Nexus, with me at the top of the list.
With all of these considered, what should I get next?
Speaking for myself, I'm very much interested in the Moto X Pure/Style and the upcomming Nexuses. No interest whatsoever in the S6, and the OnePlus 2 isn't enough of an upgrade to make me want it instead of my OnePlus One. Speaking of which, don't ignore the OnePlus One. $300 for a brand new 64gb one, and it'll be a perfectly competent device for a good long while, plus you'll have custom development support at a level only matched/exceeded by Nexus devices.
As for what you should get next, I can't say. Not yet, without these new devices being released and reviewed. The OnePlus 2 has a better camera...on paper. Same for the Moto X Pure. But without reviews, who can say? Will the underclocked SD810 on the OnePlus 2 perform up to standards? Will it still overheat? Will it be better than the 801-AC on the OnePlus One? What about the 808 on the Moto X Pure? What rumored features of the Nexus 5 will actually come to fruition (and what it have that surprises us)? And what about the Saygus V2? WTF is going on with that phone?
Now is not the time to decide anything.
There is already a thread for this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
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I'm torn between the Turbo 2 and the S6. My default position is the Turbo 2, 'cause I've been using Motorola since the Droid 1 (D1, Razr and Gen1 Moto X), but the company has changed a lot since then and Lenovo has been less than impressive so far.
I like the look (been messing with motomaker a lot) and feel of the Turbo2, and shatterproof display is very nice since I've been using a Moto X with a cracked screen for a couple months. However, the locked bootloader coupled with Moto's slow rollout of updates in the last couple years is kinda a downside. Granted I've run stock on my Moto X for 2 years, but still, I thought the whole locked down phone things was just a phase. Doesn't seem to be much dev activity in regard to the Turbo 2 so far. I'm also pretty bummed there's no one hand mode like LG and Samsung have.
The S6 is a pretty good phone too, and is nicely open to dev/mod community. I don't like touchwiz, but seems like it can be removed with out too much of a hassle. And my tiny hands really like the idea of one hand mode. I don't like the feel of the S6, it just feels kinda cheap, plus it doesn't have shatterproof glass, and I hate cell phone cases.
Basically, I want the Turbo 2 hardware with some/most of the OS/software of the S6.
With the Turbo 2 community being pretty small, I thought I'd get some input from S6 owners
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I'm torn between the Turbo 2 and the S6. My default position is the Turbo 2, 'cause I've been using Motorola since the Droid 1 (D1, Razr and Gen1 Moto X), but the company has changed a lot since then and Lenovo has been less than impressive so far.
I like the look (been messing with motomaker a lot) and feel of the Turbo2, and shatterproof display is very nice since I've been using a Moto X with a cracked screen for a couple months. However, the locked bootloader coupled with Moto's slow rollout of updates in the last couple years is kinda a downside. Granted I've run stock on my Moto X for 2 years, but still, I thought the whole locked down phone things was just a phase. Doesn't seem to be much dev activity in regard to the Turbo 2 so far. I'm also pretty bummed there's no one hand mode like LG and Samsung have.
The S6 is a pretty good phone too, and is nicely open to dev/mod community. I don't like touchwiz, but seems like it can be removed with out too much of a hassle. And my tiny hands really like the idea of one hand mode. I don't like the feel of the S6, it just feels kinda cheap, plus it doesn't have shatterproof glass, and I hate cell phone cases.
Basically, I want the Turbo 2 hardware with some/most of the OS/software of the S6.
With the Turbo 2 community being pretty small, I thought I'd get some input from S6 owners
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Please be aware that the S6 has a locked bootloader as well, and no root capability after OE3(?), so unless you get a model that's been sitting on the shelf and stop it from updating, there is no opportunity to root. It is very easy to use another launcher if you don't TW. I don't think that it feels cheap at all, but slippery is another matter. I won't use mine w/o a case.
Theodric58 said:
Please be aware that the S6 has a locked bootloader as well, and no root capability after OE3(?), so unless you get a model that's been sitting on the shelf and stop it from updating, there is no opportunity to root. It is very easy to use another launcher if you don't TW. I don't think that it feels cheap at all, but slippery is another matter. I won't use mine w/o a case.
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So all the custom roms and root stuff I see here is for people with older phones and i won't be able to root a new one from the store? Well I guess that tilts things into the Turbos favor.
I'd get a Dev to verify, but from everything I've seen on these forums, that is the case. If it is still on 5.02 out of the box you can root it, but once it gets 5.1 you are done.
My wife has the S6 and is very happy with it. A great display and a petty good camera. She just uses it, and could care less about the specs. I just got the Turbo 2, coming from the Turbo 1. I especially like the Moto apps like Moto Voice, Actions, Display and Assist. I can't imagine owning anything else.
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To root the S6 you need to be on build OE3? or earlier. Once you get to OF1 you are screwed. Your best bet at getting an S6 with an old enough build would be a 128gb model. I have a 128gb one myself and it came with OC3 out of the box, so I rooted right away and froze updates so now I'm good.
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To root the S6 you need to be on build OE3? or earlier. Once you get to OF1 you are screwed. Your best bet at getting an S6 with an old enough build would be a 128gb model. I have a 128gb one myself and it came with OC3 out of the box, so I rooted right away and froze updates so now I'm good.
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I did that too. I bought a 128gb verizon s6 on ebay. when it arrived I didn't activate it on verizonwireless and instead hooked it up to wifi and set the phone up including root with pingpongroot. That blocked it from updating and now I'm happily 'stuck' with OC3 until I choose.
So, long story short, I decided to make the switch from Apple to Android around this time last year after becoming increasingly frustrated with the limitations of iOS, mainly in terms of multitasking, file management and productivity.
iOS is a stunning platform that has been beautifully designed and well executed. It works so well because of its rigid rules and inflexible functionality and I needed to spread my metaphorical wings.
At the time I made my decision the LG G4 had just been announced and the quirky leather design and publicity around the camera swept me up but at £500 it wasn't good value for money considering the previous year's model was less than half that price at around £230. So I bought the LG G3 as my first Android phone.
It was impressive, had good specs and certainly the flexibility I was after but OMG the UI is ugly. It has a colour pallette reminiscent of Windows 95 and equally as blocky. Square icons for all LG apps, hideous status bar icons and a general look about it that reminds me of gloomy concrete apartment blocks in the former USSR.
I tried custom ROMs and fell in love with stock Android, but the proprietary features of the G3 such as the majority of camera functions fail to work with them.
I'd been reading a lot about Motorola's "Pure" experience, reasonably fast update cycle and ethos around "less is more", plus I'd seen pictures of the Moto line in magazines and they are stunning pieces of kit. From the rounded curves to the textured back.
So I bought the X Style and it arrived this morning (thanks Amazon Prime) and OMG it's practically perfect. From the Pure Android experience, the Turbo Power charging and Moto Display, to the ultra fast burst mode in camera, gestures and the beautiful design.
I'm so pleased that I got the X Style now, it's the Android experience I've been waiting for..
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Welcome, I am also new to the Moto X Pure XT1575 here. So far I have been very pleased with stock rooted, and disabling stuff. Good battery, smooth, way lighter than my Note 4 was, Though the devs over there did a great job. The only thing I have not fell in love with is the fact we have a LED but it isnt usable out of the box.
Currently:
Stock rooted thanks @Sabissimo
Frankenclark thanks @dirtyhank
Marshmallow logo thanks @pradeepmaddy
turbo 2 boot thanks @rsa 329
You dodged a bullet with the G4. It's a bloated, Fort Knox locked down nightmare. Although the camera and removable battery/life was stellar, it was just missing and undesirable on many levels. I ended up selling mine last week and got the Moto x pure. The x pure is exactly what an Android device should be and more.
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Welcome. This is my 2nd Moto phone, well 3rd if you count the Droid Mini I foolishly bought due to Verzion's BS restrictions. My normal phone is a 6P, but I had to send it off to be repaired so I needed a phone in the meantime. So far I love it. Great size and feel. I unlocked the BL, but that's it. Honestly I may not root it since the stock Moto software is so solid as is.
I too picked up this sweet phone about a month ago. I had the LG G4 too, which was a GREAT phone but total lockdown. Both phones had almost identical hardware/specs. So, I sold the G4 bought this bad boy and I have never looked back. Love it. Pure Android all the way.
Congrats. Yes, the Moto x pure is a great phone and probably the best phone I've owned. That is saying a lot when coming from iPhone, Galaxy, and Nexus lines. Of course, everything is based on personal preference. Most people who see this phone think it is some Galaxy S'model. But I guess it is a good thing since people who actually want a good phone at a decent price will find their way here.
Anyway enjoy your phone. [emoji1]
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Congrats. Yes, the Moto x pure is a great phone and probably the best phone I've owned. That is saying a lot when coming from iPhone, Galaxy, and Nexus lines. Of course, everything is based on personal preference. Most people who see this phone think it is some Galaxy S'model. But I guess it is a good thing since people who actually want a good phone at a decent price will find their way here.
Anyway enjoy your phone. [emoji1]
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Thanks. I love it. So much better than my LG G3. It feels better quality, the screen is brighter, sound is clearer and the camera is incredible. Best £200 I've spent in ages.
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