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Updates in android and windows

Updates for Android devices are always rolled by the gadget manufacturer, so every time Google introduces a new update we have to wait till the manufacturer of the device decides to roll it out, this obviously takes a lot of time and puts Android at a disadvantage against Apple and Microsoft.
For a Windows device irrespective of the manufacturer if Microsoft rolls out an update all can avail of that update through windows update. Android also being an open platform like Windows should be able to do the same.
If I have a software CD of Windows 7 I can install the software in any manufacturers PC and use it. I may just need to do some additional driver installation if required.
Why can't Android develop their platform to function in a similar manner so that once a new version of Android is released I can install it it any device and o fcourse put in the specific drivers to make it work if required.
With the approach of Microsoft looking very prominent now for both Smartphones and Tablets, this may just be a warning bell for Android, I hope they have their eyes and ears open.
Would be nice to know the views of others. As an Android user do you feel this would be a good step for Google?

kaus1108 said:
I may just need to do some additional driver installation if required.
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The above is the key sentence in your post. The problem is that without the correct hardware drivers for your specific phone the OS may not be able to boot at all and will certainly have limited functionality - just look at the issues there are with trying to run leaded ICS / JB ROMs on phones that don't have an official version of the ROM available with the correct drivers yet.
The reason that Microsoft is able to push out a new OS and have it (mostly) work on any manufacturers PC, with any hardware, is that all the hardware manufacturers are given alpha/beta copies of Windows to test their hardware on and to allow them to build the drivers well in advance of the OS being released by the guys in Redmond.
Google don't do that. They release the OS immediately they have hardware support and compatibility for their devices - and let everybody else deal with the aftermath

windows is the opposite from open platform!
android is an open platform.
the phone makers are free to use android as they wish, they can decide if to upgrade or not.
google only realeses the source code.

XDA is there for providing the latest update.
My phone was supported by Samsung till Gingerbread. But I got jelly bean from XDA devs just after a week after the source code release.
But it does have some bugs which cannot be solved without Samsung's help.
But if you wanted the fastest OEM updates, buy a Nexus.
But 50% of the people are normal users who do not care about updates and new android versions.
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SimonTS said:
The above is the key sentence in your post. The problem is that without the correct hardware drivers for your specific phone the OS may not be able to boot at all and will certainly have limited functionality - just look at the issues there are with trying to run leaded ICS / JB ROMs on phones that don't have an official version of the ROM available with the correct drivers yet.
The reason that Microsoft is able to push out a new OS and have it (mostly) work on any manufacturers PC, with any hardware, is that all the hardware manufacturers are given alpha/beta copies of Windows to test their hardware on and to allow them to build the drivers well in advance of the OS being released by the guys in Redmond.
Google don't do that. They release the OS immediately they have hardware support and compatibility for their devices - and let everybody else deal with the aftermath
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Thank you for the response and I do agree with what you say and the key to it is that there are certain things that Microsoft do and Google don't and how it is going to impact users in the future.
I remember when I moved from Windows Vista to Windows 7 all the Vista drivers were functioning allright after installing Windows 7 and I have also faced situations where I did not have certain drivers but the PC still functioned on generic drivers provided in the Windows software.
Don't you feel it would be much better if Google just released a Jelly Bean OS and left it to us to install it and I am sure that based on devices already in the market those drivers can always be included in the OS and each phone would pick its own based on its hardware. Only the new devices would need new ones which Google may not be able to provide. If this were true today I would be installing JB in my Galaxy S3 and not have to wait for Sammy.

djbijo said:
windows is the opposite from open platform!
android is an open platform.
the phone makers are free to use android as they wish, they can decide if to upgrade or not.
google only realeses the source code.
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No, Windows is quite open. Apple is the closed one.
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ARM Based Hackintosh iOS

Here's an idea ARM Based Hackintosh iOS Style. Get iOS running on an ARM development board or Android phone. :highfive: You guys know that would be bad($). Because creating drivers can be a problem since there are many ARM Platforms lets choose one device then branch out. If anyone is up to the task I'll help found what I can.

Toxic_Dragon said:
Here's an idea ARM Based Hackintosh iOS Style. Get iOS running on an ARM development board or Android phone. :highfive: You guys know that would be bad($). Because creating drivers can be a problem since there are many ARM Platforms lets choose one device then branch out. If anyone is up to the task I'll help found what I can.
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Sounds cool, not to hip on the mac side of things; but I've seen some things. I've two cence to throw in:
Check out qemu or limbo for android. Their all about tight prossessor emulation. This may enable you to emulate the hardware that normaly runs iOS.
Check out java. I've seen some fantastic and fast development in translating programs, sometimes on the fly, in such a way that they become hardware independent.
I'm up for seeing about a port to linux that can be dule-booted for development as that may lend to branching for Android easyer. As far as a device to choose I'd sugest something older but not so old as the g1, though that would be fancy, because cost will be lower, documentation more prevolent, and paralel minded progects may already have a levereg point that you can start from.
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Debian Kit Install guide for all android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Or
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ssVeIhdBuuy8CtpBP1lWgUkG6fR6oHxP20ToYPPw6zI/edit?usp=drive_web

Windows on x86 based android phones?

I was curious about this, if the android smartphones/tabs powered x86 intel processors can be used such that we can install desktop windows or other x86 OSes?

Unlikely as we would need to build drivers for the phone which is rather difficult when the manufacturers like to have things on lockdown most of the time, also it would probably brake some strange contract with Microsoft as most things do. Look at the Surface and Surface RT
Also the UI (Even Metro) would struggle to work on the display adapter
So in short no we can't run Windows on x86 Android phones, yet anyway

Install Android in Windows without Virtual box
I tried this product DuOS which will install Android version Jellybean in Windows 7/8/8.1 platforms. This one is very simple for use comparing with Bluestacks and has good performance for applications. Refer the link for further details and installation check the website for amiduos:good:

[Q] Is there alternatives to Android?

Recently, I found a topic about installing Linux Debian on P500. This piqued my curiosity.
The question is:
Is there other alternatives than Android for P500?
Firefox OS, Windows Phone, I know, is impossible, I am looking for other systems.
Best regards
-Caio

Those Debian installs are most usually for a chroot run on top of android. Get a bash window, not likely a GUI would be able to run with our memory limitations.
Some of us would kill for a working version of Ubuntu touch, but everyone else with higher-end phones is still waiting for this.

i know it may sound newbish, but isnt possible for windows phone to tun on an android device (althought its not open source)? i fund some vague informations on google, so thats why im asking

Well if you get some flagship devices like nexus 4, nexus 5 you can enjoy firefox os, ubuntu and sailfish on them

install android like windows, linux or other OS

hello comunity,
thank you for taken me into your community.
my question might is weird but i was always wondering why android ROMS are always just made for specific devices.
As known from the Personal Computers you just get an installation media like DVD or USB Drive packed with the OS and all the driver the computer might have. the installation routine just figures out the the device needs and installs acordingly.
why this is not possible for the ARM-devices to install android OS like this? or is there already projects who invented? i think almost everybody (especially those who owns a not anymore supported device by the manufacturer) would appreciate if he/she could upgrade by using an autonomous installer.
I am not a hardware architecture nerd thats why i would appreciate and kindly ask for an easy to understand explanation