Problems with Titanium Backup's "Integrate system app updates into ROM" feature.
I searched, but didn't find any documentation on this feature, so I did the adventurous thing and tried it out. It's supposed to replace the system apps in the ROM with the updated apk, therefore saving space in the system memory. But after the batch finished, all of the updated apps were completely gone...the originals AND the updates were deleted. Since there isn't a way to "undo" this function, I had to reflash the ROM. Does anyone know more about this option? Does it work with any ROM?
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deafcon5 said:
I searched, but didn't find any documentation on this feature, so I did the adventurous thing and tried it out. It's supposed to replace the system apps in the ROM with the updated apk, therefore saving space in the system memory. But after the batch finished, all of the updated apps were completely gone...the originals AND the updates were deleted. Since there isn't a way to "undo" this function, I had to reflash the ROM. Does anyone know more about this option? Does it work with any ROM?
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If your rooted you can replace them yourself.
deafcon5 said:
I searched, but didn't find any documentation on this feature, so I did the adventurous thing and tried it out. It's supposed to replace the system apps in the ROM with the updated apk, therefore saving space in the system memory. But after the batch finished, all of the updated apps were completely gone...the originals AND the updates were deleted. Since there isn't a way to "undo" this function, I had to reflash the ROM. Does anyone know more about this option? Does it work with any ROM?
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I faced the same probs. But here is a few tips to get back your app:
1. Use titanium backup, run Batch, uninstall those apps that you have moved to ROM (which already highlighted in Red)
2. Find install apks for those apps in Google, reinstall it
3. Reboot your device
4. All app icons have back
Have fun, mate!!
winbytrick said:
I faced the same probs. But here is a few tips to get back your app:
1. Use titanium backup, run Batch, uninstall those apps that you have moved to ROM (which already highlighted in Red)
2. Find install apks for those apps in Google, reinstall it
3. Reboot your device
4. All app icons have back
Have fun, mate!!
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I had the same problem; with the Android Market app disappeared. I have tried to re-install it the way you suggest, but the app stops working when I start any download from the market. Even reset the phone to factory settings, but I have the same problem. Any clue?
Thanks!!!
I just did a hot restart and it was fine for me.
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deafcon5 said:
I searched, but didn't find any documentation on this feature, so I did the adventurous thing and tried it out. It's supposed to replace the system apps in the ROM with the updated apk, therefore saving space in the system memory. But after the batch finished, all of the updated apps were completely gone...the originals AND the updates were deleted. Since there isn't a way to "undo" this function, I had to reflash the ROM. Does anyone know more about this option? Does it work with any ROM?
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I was having a similar problem with my Galaxy Note on ICS 4.04.
Whenever I tried to integrate the Play Store it would delete both the update and the old app and I would have to reinstall the APK.
I also noticed recently that a few other updates that appeared to be integrated successfully reappeared in the list of available updates to integrate, like they reverted to user apps after a reboot?
What finally fixed it for me was selecting the option in Titanium Backup Pro *Menu; Preferences; Advanced Settings; Check the box "Auto-integrate sys Dalvik into"
I then did a backup of my launcher app, long pressed on the backup and selected "Convert to System App", then single pressed on the app backup, selected restore then selected app data only"
It prompted me to reboot, after reboot when I checked the"batch, integrate updates into system ROM" all the apps which I was having problems with had disappeared from the list, and appear to be integrated now.
I don't know if it was the reboot or enabling the option in Titanium Backup, but something changed.
I have some problems also
I used Titanium mainly to integrate the updates into rom in my previous htc sensation and in my galaxy s3 and it worked fine with them. Now it does not work properly with my galaxy s4. After the integration some apps crash, Chrome, Dropbox. Some of them only delete the update and leave the old one in rom. If I go to google play the update is there to be installed again or some apps just prompt for the update when opened. I sent an email to the developer but I have not response. I have used it successfully in my previous phones but it is not working in this one. Any help is appreciated.
rdefranx said:
I used Titanium mainly to integrate the updates into rom in my previous htc sensation and in my galaxy s3 and it worked fine with them. Now it does not work properly with my galaxy s4. After the integration some apps crash, Chrome, Dropbox. Some of them only delete the update and leave the old one in rom. If I go to google play the update is there to be installed again or some apps just prompt for the update when opened. I sent an email to the developer but I have not response. I have used it successfully in my previous phones but it is not working in this one. Any help is appreciated.
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Yep, I'm having this exact problem. First the apps didn't show up, so I performed a hot restart. They're all back now, but Dropbox, Chrome, G+ and others that were integrated are all crashing now.
I imagine it's mostly to so with new security features with the S4. If you're using an S4 please stay away from this feature until it's officially recognised as an issue by the TitaniumBackup developer. I'll reflash PDA shortly and report back if that resolves the problem.
chrisfu said:
Yep, I'm having this exact problem. First the apps didn't show up, so I performed a hot restart. They're all back now, but Dropbox, Chrome, G+ and others that were integrated are all crashing now.
I imagine it's mostly to so with new security features with the S4. If you're using an S4 please stay away from this feature until it's officially recognised as an issue by the TitaniumBackup developer. I'll reflash PDA shortly and report back if that resolves the problem.
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I did reflash the phone with the stock firmware and everithing is good. I have tried some apps but it did not work. I just leave them there until titanium backup is updated. This is the most used feature for me and now is not working.
rdefranx said:
I used Titanium mainly to integrate the updates into rom in my previous htc sensation and in my galaxy s3 and it worked fine with them. Now it does not work properly with my galaxy s4. After the integration some apps crash, Chrome, Dropbox. Some of them only delete the update and leave the old one in rom. If I go to google play the update is there to be installed again or some apps just prompt for the update when opened. I sent an email to the developer but I have not response. I have used it successfully in my previous phones but it is not working in this one. Any help is appreciated.
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Titanium Backup's update this week supposedly fixed integrating on Android 4.2. Who's up to try it out?
M3wThr33 said:
Titanium Backup's update this week supposedly fixed integrating on Android 4.2. Who's up to try it out?
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I will try one of the apps that did not work for me, when I get home. I already updated it today. Thanks
rdefranx said:
I will try one of the apps that did not work for me, when I get home. I already updated it today. Thanks
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It's been a week. Tried it yet?
M3wThr33 said:
It's been a week. Tried it yet?
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Sorry, I have been busy to come back. Well, some work, others no. Chrome did not work but I did google Maps, google play, and several other updates. I did not mess with ChatOn since if something goes wrong it could break S voice and S translator. I just did now Google music and Flipboard. Usually I have to reboot in order to have the shortcut in the apps or to fix the name of them. For example, after integrate flipboard is in the drawer with the name and no icon, it launched fine, google music was fine and worked fine. After reboot the icon came back. The only problem is that if does not work then I have to convert the system app to user in order to make it work. Yesterday I converted the jelly bean photosphere camera to system and it was converted but did not work. It force close, then I tried to converted to user app and it took a long time and just was frozen there. I stopped TB but the camera disapear from the drawer, since rebooting fix the icon or name problem, I did it. My phone did not pass the samsung galaxy logo on boot. It was just a black screen after the logo and pressing the power button did not power on or off when I pressed, only when I released. Lucky me that I did a NAND backup before this process and still I could access download mode and the CWM which I used to restore my phone with the backup in my external card. After everything was as before I started. Now I will be more careful when I do this doing a backup before starting.
Samsung Link update integration did not work, force close. Samsung Hub worked but when press the back button to close then force close. Group play seems to work since it opens and go to the start page and no problem when I press the back button.
Still having same problem
Several programs quit working after converting apps to rom. I couldn't get them to work and finally put the locked rom back in, then unlocked it again. I have a verizon galaxy s4 me7 sch-I545 and the update didn't help here.
i want to know if i do this method, does the phone memory will get smaller if i do this again if the system apps getting new update?
hey there,
i have to grab out this thread because i have problems too. almost every app i integrate into system rom force closes, when i try to start it.
even chmod a+x didn't make it better (but the other apps in /system/app are not executable, so this had no sense).
i'm using the latest cm11 nightly for the motorola photon q. is there a known solution?
I have the same issue with this function as rdefranx.
After the integrate process, all updates are fine and i have the old versions again which i have to update. Repeated the process with single apps with showing same results again.
I also sent an so to the developer, but that's a shame: You never ever get an answer if you have a problem with titanium backup.
The app is good and helped me a lot. But shame on the non existing support. Really disappointing and unprofessional. Oh yes: i paid for the app. Thank you.
Hi, I just quit using his feature. I don't know if will work with my note 3 because I don't want to have problems. I will be subscribing to this thread in case a solution is found.
Also happened to me 4 days ago using a Moto X. Except for me it also deleted the Google keyboard & play store among others.
So I was left with no keyboard to type with and no play store to download from. After a factory rest it meant that by having no keyboard I couldn't even type anything on my phone to create a google account to restore the aps & Keyboard with. I had to reflash the whole rom again, and will stay clear of integrating the apks. I did this 4 days ago, so i'm not sure if titanium has updated since then.
Same problem with me. LG G2 Mini Official KK4.4.2 rooted, after Integrating system apps in ROM almost all of them crashing. Don't think that has to do with titanium, but with the android version. I used tha feature on my old LG P350 (stock rom+cm) and worked perfectly. But now in kitkat is messing up. Btw i'm using the latest version of titanium pro
I had an Evo LTE but now I have an N5. I rooted my device not too long ago and tried our a couple Roms. I stuck with PA. I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, I don't post on here much, but I keep getting notifications from PA telling me to update Gapps. I like the stock PA Gapps. I like that it doesn't have the old messaging app and browser(I like using Hangouts and Chrome). I don't want to have 2 of each thing. Really my question is, is there some sort of advantage to updating Gapps?
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Updating GAPPS is merely updating these apps, not much different to updating normal user apps.
You don't have to update, but they often bring new features / fixes bugs etc. Not necessarily and advantage, just nice to keep things updated really.
If the zip comes with apps you don't want e.g. messaging or old browser:
- You can always remove them with titanium backup or similar
- Or you can delete them from the zip before you even flash it.
open the .zip with something like 7zip (double click, don't extract)
delete apks you don't want from /system/app or /system/priv-app etc.
close 7zip to update it.
- Use another flashable zip to remove them after flashing the gapps (set it up once, saves you editing the zip every time). I do this personally.
Turn off the notifications in the ota app settings. Problem solved. You do not need to update from the ota app at all
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I am running a stock image on my N5 with root and need to add an apk into the system partition but the problem is that I have only 4mb left on there and the apk does not fit. Is it possible to resize the partitions and:
Still keep your data
and/or
Allow for OTA installations down the road?
Short answer is no. And you certainly can't do it without wiping everything else. Repartitioning Android partitions is not for the faint of heart. It takes a lot of knowledge and can easily brick your device.
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psychephylax said:
I am running a stock image on my N5 with root and need to add an apk into the system partition but the problem is that I have only 4mb left on there and the apk does not fit. Is it possible to resize the partitions and:
Still keep your data
and/or
Allow for OTA installations down the road?
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Why don't you just simply delete some unused pre-installed apps from /system?
xnormskix said:
Why don't you just simply delete some unused pre-installed apps from /system?
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He will need to revert changes in order to run the OTA process.
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Plus, with a nexus image there really isn't much stuff to delete as there is on a carrier image
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What i am really trying to do is get the droid circle widget working which should live in priv-app in system. I wonder if I can symlink from the user data partition
psychephylax said:
What i am really trying to do is get the droid circle widget working which should live in priv-app in system. I wonder if I can symlink from the user data partition
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Stock Google OS comes with a ton of crap on /system that really belongs on /data. You delete all those apps, then download them from the playstore. 300ish MB free on /system.
I wrote a script to do this here, or you could use @vomer CleanRom that gets rid of some crap. My script (from memory) keeps stock keyboard, stock camera, and a stock launcher. Everything else is gone and can be reacquired through the playstore, the way it should have been from the beginning.
If it bothers you, could could use TiBu to back up that app data before you delete them, then restore after playstore install.
Who cares about OTA? Really not of concern.
Thank you for putting me on the right track. What I wound up doing was converting a couple of the apps that are baked into the stock ROM from system to user apps with TiBu. Worked like a charm!
awesome ...
Aerowinder said:
Stock Google OS comes with a ton of crap on /system that really belongs on /data. You delete all those apps, then download them from the playstore. 300ish MB free on /system.
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Thanks for your awesome and simple script - great idea!
Worked on my Nexus 5, 6 and 7. Boosted free space by 360 MB.
Regards.
Update : your script also worked on my Nexus 6 running Stock Marshmallow Version "mra58r" now that I have 863 MB free on /system.
:: TWRP 2.8.7.1 + ElementalX-N6-3.06 Kernel + SuperSU BETA 2.52
Same issue with CM13
I'm facing low system space when installing CM13.
The ROM installs correctly. However, when I go to flash GAPPS, I get a low system error.
How can I fix this?
Flash back to stock, perform a factory wipe, flash twrp, flash cm and gapps. Hopefully, those fixes the issue.
Aerowinder said:
Stock Google OS comes with a ton of crap on /system that really belongs on /data. You delete all those apps, then download them from the playstore. 300ish MB free on /system.
I wrote a script to do this here, or you could use @vomer CleanRom that gets rid of some crap. My script (from memory) keeps stock keyboard, stock camera, and a stock launcher. Everything else is gone and can be reacquired through the playstore, the way it should have been from the beginning.
If it bothers you, could could use TiBu to back up that app data before you delete them, then restore after playstore install.
Who cares about OTA? Really not of concern.
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Original link to script above is dead. Any chance we could still get the script, particularly if it would still work okay on Android 6 (Marshmallow) or 7 (Nougat)? Thanks.
Hi,
anyone else with the same Problem?
Since KitKat (and still with Lollipop 5.1.1) the Titanium Backup function to include Systemapp Updates to the ROM fails. Happens at all Google Apps, FileCommander and Sony Apps.
There is no Error Message. In some cases it only deletes the App completeley and in other cases the progress is running endless (tested for 1 Hour without completion).
Device is Bootloader unlocked, rooted (SuperSU)....... any Hints?
Hmm I had no issue with kitkat, but it definitely does not work with lollipop.
Issue is with tb it's not going to create a subfolder and put libs in subfolder.
If you want to integrate apps, copy the apk from data directory and paste it over system apk, and then replace all the libs using same process.
Reboot phone so it optimized new system apk, then under normal application management uninstall app and replace with factory version (which will be new version)
Reboot and you should be good, restore data if you need to.
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Can you give me the necessary Directorys for Internal Memory Apps and System Apps, please?
It's /data/app/ and system apps are either in /system/app or /system/priv-app/
If you go into TB backup/restore, find the app, touch it for more options, right under the freeze option touch the name and it'll give you exact locations as well
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Hi!
Is TB do an update to fix this bug ?
I try to contact them to many times and no one answer me.
Did you find another app to do that ?
Did you still with manual methode ?
Tks
Still broken, only manual method works.
It's like it can't make subfolders in system
Just do it manually not so bad. Copy the updated files from data to system app folder, change permissions and hot reboot.
Android will do the rest.. no data loss or having to install/uninstall.
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Heya guys, I'm pretty sure this was asked but I cannot find the answer on XDA.
When you update a system odex app with the new market version (eg google maps, google services, etc), the odex file becomes completely useless, right? Until you factory reset your phone then they will be used again?
Because my phone includes Facebook.odex in /system and I would like to delete the 180mb odex file that seems pretty useless to me as Facebook is updated constantly anyways and I would prefer to install manually (unless there odex file is still helping out even after an update, or it's also being updated)
I often integrate the google apps updates in /system as well, so I'm not sure if this changes anything like deleting the old odex, updating the old odex, etc
Thanks guys!
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