Related
A few months ago I bought a HTC EVO. It is my first smart phone. I am not what I would describe as a heavy user.... My web/phone mix is about 40/60.
I was referred to this site from guys in my car club. They recommend some sort of rooting? and kernel? for battery life....
My batt life sucks and is unreliable when I'm on the move. Even a short drive with virtually no use will kill my battery. I haven't tried the recalibration. I just actually read about that process but frankly I don't understand the directions 100%.
What do I NEED to do to this thing in order to keep it performing top tier and extend my battery life?
Should I remove my advanced task killer? What about antivirus?
I am super computer ignorant. Cars are my thing, computers not so much. What the hell is a root? What is a kernel? What is removing sense? ROM meaning Read Only Memory? Is this something I need to physically add to my device? Will I run into support issues after all this stuff?
I need some solid, straight forward advice in lamen words about what I need to properly maintain the software on this thing.
Thanks a bunch!!!
I realize this may not be the best section for my question.....
Mods/Admin can you move this thread to the Android section that would be the most appropriate?
iamtheshaner said:
A few months ago I bought a HTC EVO. It is my first smart phone. I am not what I would describe as a heavy user.... My web/phone mix is about 40/60.
I was referred to this site from guys in my car club. They recommend some sort of rooting? and kernel? for battery life....
My batt life sucks and is unreliable when I'm on the move. Even a short drive with virtually no use will kill my battery. I haven't tried the recalibration. I just actually read about that process but frankly I don't understand the directions 100%.
What do I NEED to do to this thing in order to keep it performing top tier and extend my battery life?
Should I remove my advanced task killer? What about antivirus?
I am super computer ignorant. Cars are my thing, computers not so much. What the hell is a root? What is a kernel? What is removing sense? ROM meaning Read Only Memory? Is this something I need to physically add to my device? Will I run into support issues after all this stuff?
I need some solid, straight forward advice in lamen words about what I need to properly maintain the software on this thing.
Thanks a bunch!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, well i dont have an evo i have a mt3g but i will tell you a few things. There are a lot of people that say task killers do more harm than good. Android already has a way of killing tasks on its own. Antivirus never caused an issue for me. If you have no interest on computers or knowing your phone that personally i would not suggest you root. Rooting gives you super user permissions. Basically an all access pass. Of course they have issues as nothing is perfect. You can see that from running into issues stock. A kernel if i understand correctly is what controls the communication between the software and the hardware. Some have better battery life than others. You have to be rooted to flash them though. Setcpu can also control your processor speed for better battery control. Again you need root to use it. Sense is what your phone runs on stock and some people like it others dont. Rom- Yes read only memory. There are different ones you can flash to totally change your phone. They run different on everything as well as battery life, options, look, feel ect. Again you need root to flash custom Roms.
Hope this helps. Also you can go to the evo section here and read all the info you want on rooting, roms, flashing, battery issues, ect.
This should have been in evo Q&A section. Not complaining or anything strictly fyi so you know next time and where to look for your info.
So, with all this talk of over clocked/undervolt kernals, smartass gov, setcpu, and juicedefender, I was wondering what the definitive way to optimize battery is (without doing a bump charge).
I dont need any crazy quadrant scores or anything. I just need a phone that can play the occasional game here and there, surf the web, and text message; all while being lag free.
I have done all the "normal" battery savings like turning off 4g (live in 3g only area anyways), backlight lowered, no live wallpaper, ect. My question is what is the "best" method for squeezing out the most juice?
I know there are MANY opinions as to what the best is, but I thought I would poll the masses here and get their 2 cents on the subject.
Well, I pay attention to my current widget. There's certain areas where battery drain is a problem with mobile data turned on. I turn off mobile data when I'm in those areas. Being mindful of that has been the #1 battery saver for me. In fact, I even run with automatic brightness instead of a very low brightness setting and I get better battery life now than before.
I seem to get better battery on lower, mainly because when I do auto, it goes full blast most of the time, and likes to switch about 20 times from high to low while im texting.
My main question here is out of the more detailed methods (new kernal, setcpu, ect.) works best. I know kernals seem to give better performance and battery to some, but I read some of the kernal builds have some hiccups still.
Just wondering what you guys have found is best and most stable of the "detailed" methods.
footballer62 said:
I seem to get better battery on lower
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Of course, I do as well. I was just saying that turning off mobile data in the areas that tend to cause my phone to draw 700+mA saves a significant more amount of power than turning the screen to low.
I'm currently planning to try out setting Tasker to automatically turn off mobile data when connected to problematic towers.
My main question here is out of the more detailed methods (new kernal, setcpu, ect.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I'm running BAMF 1.3 with the smartass governor. It saves quite a bit of power and has very little setup (you don't have to set up profiles with setcpu).
The newest Tasker adds CPU frequency control support... it doesn't currently work on the ROM I'm running ... but I'd imagine when we get CM7, it'll work. Presumably you could use that to always scale down the CPU until you open up specific apps that benefit from additional clockspeed. It could save a bit of power.
NEW APP in the market - LTE OnOff - switches phone from 4G to 3G to save batt.
Zshazz said:
I'm currently planning to try out setting Tasker to automatically turn off mobile data when connected to problematic towers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I purchased Tasker a while back just because it sounds cool, but I've never really found useful tasks to run with it for how I use my device; still looking though!
Yours sounds ideal for some areas I go to. Please remember to share the Tasker profile you come up with for that functionality.
Thanks!
Zshazz said:
Well, I'm running BAMF 1.3 with the smartass governor. It saves quite a bit of power and has very little setup (you don't have to set up profiles with setcpu).
The newest Tasker adds CPU frequency control support... it doesn't currently work on the ROM I'm running ... but I'd imagine when we get CM7, it'll work. Presumably you could use that to always scale down the CPU until you open up specific apps that benefit from additional clockspeed. It could save a bit of power.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello guys, Im coming over from the eris/custom rom to TB this past week. I was wondering what kind of life you are experiencing with the custom roms here like BAMF. I haven't rooted it yet but am planning to since the current battery life is not acceptable in my daily life. I love the phone but need to figure out if I can keep it or not by helping my battery life. I have 4g disabled since it is not even avail in my area yet but still only getting 6-7 hrs. Thanks for any help, opinions, or redirects.
hehe...
This is great. Reminds me of hypermiling with my car/hybrid to get the most gas out of it. Well...it's about that time again with fuel costs going up.
So what is the equivalent term of hypermiling for handhelds/phones? Hyper-???
squeeze said:
So what is the equivalent term of hypermiling for handhelds/phones? Hyper-???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never mind. I guess the thread title was fine "battery optimization". But those gas/hybrid nerds (like me) love using the term hypermiling.
I like using setcpu profiles or custom kernels
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App
n2imagination said:
Hello guys, Im coming over from the eris/custom rom to TB this past week. I was wondering what kind of life you are experiencing with the custom roms here like BAMF. I haven't rooted it yet but am planning to since the current battery life is not acceptable in my daily life. I love the phone but need to figure out if I can keep it or not by helping my battery life. I have 4g disabled since it is not even avail in my area yet but still only getting 6-7 hrs. Thanks for any help, opinions, or redirects.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
6-7 hours? Jeez. I have a fairly stock rom (perfect storm, which is more or less just bloat free) with 4G off, backlight to around 35%, only one gps running - the google one for the HTC weather, I use wifi when at home, I have nothing that pushes except my main gmail and the htc weather, do texting all day, and about an hour of internet a day. With this setup after 16 hours I have always had over 50% battery.
How many things do you have pushing data? Facebook or twitter? And if so what is the interval? Also, how much on the net are you, and how often do you game?
squeeze said:
This is great. Reminds me of hypermiling with my car/hybrid to get the most gas out of it. Well...it's about that time again with fuel costs going up.
So what is the equivalent term of hypermiling for handhelds/phones? Hyper-???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Battery optimization is just a term I figured work, but hypermiling sounds pretty sexy Increases your battery mileage of course!
I'm using Superpower to disable data connection when the screen off. Seems to be working well.
footballer62 said:
6-7 hours? Jeez. I have a fairly stock rom (perfect storm, which is more or less just bloat free) with 4G off, backlight to around 35%, only one gps running - the google one for the HTC weather, I use wifi when at home, I have nothing that pushes except my main gmail and the htc weather, do texting all day, and about an hour of internet a day. With this setup after 16 hours I have always had over 50% battery.
How many things do you have pushing data? Facebook or twitter? And if so what is the interval? Also, how much on the net are you, and how often do you game?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never game, 2 gmail accounts, fb few times a day, no twitter, net 2-3 times a day. This is stock sense on the phone though. Thats why I was looking into the dif roms to see what battery life was like with dif kernel on it. I will prob root and toss a rom on there to see if it gets me better life (which im sure it will), but considering waiting until the 16th (rumor out that fairly big update coming and want to see if that may help at all).
distortedloop said:
I purchased Tasker a while back just because it sounds cool, but I've never really found useful tasks to run with it for how I use my device; still looking though!
Yours sounds ideal for some areas I go to. Please remember to share the Tasker profile you come up with for that functionality.
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tutorial on Tasker CPU profiles can be found here
jbh00jh said:
NEW APP in the market - LTE OnOff - switches phone from 4G to 3G to save batt.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This really is the best way to save battery at the moment.
I made my battery last the whole day after I installed Automatic Task Killer from the market. It kills selected processes as long as the screen is off. I get home after 9 hours at work and I still have ~40% battery left. Before I installed Automatic Task Killer my TB was dead after 9 hours.
There is so much random bloatware on the TB from vzw that it eats the battery fast. I just need to root I had a Eris on a custom ROM before the TB and I could go 2 days easy without a charge.
This seems to be a fix for the time being. Too bad there is no way for developers to make a one click root like on the Eris. I will have to bite the bullet and do it the old fashioned way.
Can you reference where you heard this "April 16th update" rumor? I'd like to read about this one and see the credibility behind it.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App
chanmannn said:
Can you reference where you heard this "April 16th update" rumor? I'd like to read about this one and see the credibility behind it.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
X2
and what is suppose to happen with this update?
I use an app called System Panel that's got all kinds of nifty information available to the curious.
chanmannn said:
Can you reference where you heard this "April 16th update" rumor? I'd like to read about this one and see the credibility behind it.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They are all just rumors (like any other update/upgrade "news") but...
http://htcsource.com/2011/03/rumour-htc-thunderbolt-to-get-gingerbread-update-in-q2-2011/
http://technology.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979166628
http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/2011/03/27/htc-thunderbolt-getting-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-in-q2/
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-thunderbolt-getting-gingerbread-by-summer-20110326/
im having issue with my battery life can anybody give me any advice??
Can you elaborate on what kind of battery life you are getting, what kind of usage, and types of activities like bluetooth, wifi, gps usage etc.. Also, let us know if your stock, or custom rom with custom kernel etc..
I just posted some suggestions in another thread, follow link below and read my suggestions on 3rd post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339479
This is a good place to start. In general though you should be disabling radio's and features that you don't need. Think of it in terms of how you conserve, or should be conserving energy at home. You probably have about a hundred different appliances or light switches that you can turn on at home.. but just because you have them all doesn't mean they should all be on at once! ;-)
i am running the ROM 2.3.5Doctorz RomV8.1 with an infusion 1.1 kernal and i moderatley use my phone and am seeing the battery life of some other people and mines just doesn't compare
xjeffx said:
i am running the ROM 2.3.5Doctorz RomV8.1 with an infusion 1.1 kernal and i moderatley use my phone and am seeing the battery life of some other people and mines just doesn't compare
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Things you can try!
Download CPUSpy from the Market. Check to see if your phone is even going into a deep sleep, If you notice heavy cpu usage then you need to find out exactly which app is causing it and delete it. Widgits and other gizmos that eat ram will also cause bad battery life, try turning sync off, turn data off if your not using it, turn GPS off if your not using it. If you just installed that rom, you need to give it a few days of charge and discharging it completely before the battery can settle in and give you accurate results.
Edit: JuiceDefender is not an option, Recently deleted it to see that I gained back 2% battery after unistalling. Goes to show you battery saver apps don't work.
I had the same issue with mine as well... Charged completely last night before going to bed disabled wifi gps bt etc... Woke up this morning with 38%... I was blown away.... Since have odin back to till i get home to mess with it.... I know everyone has there oww personal preference and i respect that... You have aby suggestions on rom "with working bt", kernal, modem etc... And tweaks/ non tweeks that will get good use?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App
Well my experience is Juice defender works very well...especially if you understand how it works and what it is doing. But in your case you are probably have other unrelated issues.
Cpuspy might point you in the right direction but it could be as simple as looking at your settings: applications : running and see if any are continuously "restarting". On new roms I typically see what's running (i.e. sns is problem app for myself) and if I don't like it then use TitaniumBackup to freeze the apps. That combined with juice significantly increases my Infuse's battery life on the various ROMs I've used.
I'm running the original stock Froyo 2.2 UCKH1, I've been on battery for 1day and 17 hours before going dead. Check your apps, check cpu usage. Otherwise you got a bad battery.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App
okay so i downloaded cpu spy and i seen that my phone was running at 1.2 ghz most of the time so i set up voltage control to conservative and I saw a big difference and i un installed my task manager
xjeffx said:
okay so i downloaded cpu spy and i seen that my phone was running at 1.2 ghz most of the time so i set up voltage control to conservative and I saw a big difference and i un installed my task manager
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glad your getting things straightened out, Check out an app called Android Assistant from the Market. Gives a lot of details about your battery, what processes are running and allows you to kill them, also allows certain apps not to run when you boot the phone, cleans cache and history, allows you to move apps to SD, it's got a bunch of tools you may find useful and best of all its free and uses absolutely no battery as for it doesn't run as a service or hang in the background.
Axiomkid said:
Glad your getting things straightened out, Check out an app called Android Assistant from the Market. Gives a lot of details about your battery, what processes are running and allows you to kill them, also allows certain apps not to run when you boot the phone, cleans cache and history, allows you to move apps to SD, it's got a bunch of tools you may find useful and best of all its free and uses absolutely no battery as for it doesn't run as a service or hang in the background.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i just have one lil problem whenever i set my govenor to conservative and save it as save on boot it want save always says on demand when i reboot
xjeffx said:
i just have one lil problem whenever i set my govenor to conservative and save it as save on boot it want save always says on demand when i reboot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you sure it's not a kernel issue?
Hello I usually don't post stuff like this, but whenever I see someone answer something, they are not telling the fact, but the myth. These myths are well known "solutions", but never work, since they're myths So I'm here to tell most of the myths that people are spreading... If you have any other myths that you'll like to talk about or if one of my myth is false, feel free to post about it . So without farther ado, lets get started
Task Killers: As much as this is obvious, people still uses it. So much, that it is annoying. Android handles apps and tasks well. However, there is an exception, and that is when the app constantly freezes or crashes and you need to restart it. If that's the case, there's a "Running Apps" section, where you can force close apps under system settings. So you won't need 3rd party Task Killers, EVER
Battery Calibration (Draining then fully charging): People thinks that this is good for your battery life, but it isn't. The only thing that this does is make the system read the battery percentage more accurate. Doing this once per month might help you improve read battery % better, but it isn't necessarily at all.
Wiping battery stat when the phone doesn't charge up to 100%: This myth is quite annoying. I dunno about other forums, but in Galaxy Nexus forum, quite a few people use this myth as a answer. Wiping battery stats DOES NOTHING to how system reads battery%.
Anti-Virus app: This is another myth that is obvious, but used by many people. You don't need anti-virus apps, unless you download a lot from untrusted source (4shared, because it is uploaded by people, not the company). If you know (And you SHOULD) what you're downloading, anti-virus is nothing.
Benchmark: People get so hyped about benchmark results... And I dunno why... It's just a number, I tell them. It wouldn't matter in daily usage, I tell them. But they do it anyways... Benchmarks are just numbers people. My Gnex can be as smooth and fast as GS3, but have a significant difference in benchmark tests.
Quad-core is faster than dual-core: While this isn't a myth, it isn't 100% correct either. You see, in daily usage, the phone only uses and needs a little bit of CPU power. For example, Facebook app doesn't use full 4 cores. That's just plain silly. However, when it comes to heavy gaming, yes, that 2-extra cores will help. But overall in daily usage, you're not gonna miss almost anything, because you have dual-core...
You need to clear cache and dalvik when updating/flashing a custom kernel: This is not true. I flash Franco kernel without clearing anything with NO problem.
You need to fix permission whenever you dirty flash: I don't hear that too often, but people still believes in it. Fixing permission isn't necessarily, unless you're experiencing random force close or crash.
Turn GPS off when not using: You do not need to do that at all. Phone only turns on the GPS when it needs to. For example, when you open map app, you'll see the GPS icon on the status bar, but when you exit out, you won't see it anymore. This means that the GPS radio is off. OFF. No need to waste your time turning it off and on.
Switch to 2G (Edge) when screen off to save battery: This is probably one of the biggest mistake people do to save battery. Yes, 2G does consume less battery than 3G, but constantly switching between them just burns the battery. It is just pointless if you ask me. Either stick with 3G, or stick with 2G. Constantly switching between them will be the worst choice.
Undervolt as much as you can to save battery: This is not true. Undervolting to a certain point can help you extend your battery life, but doing it too much will drain more battery instead of extending it. Also it makes the phone less stable, so make sure you know what you're doing and don't undervolt like crazy
iOS apps are more optimized than Android, and is more stable: This is part true but mainly not. Yes, dev only needs to worry about 2-3 screen size when making apps, which means that apps can be optimized for the screen size, but that doesn't mean much anyways... Also did you know that iOS apps crash more than Android? Now you know
iOS is better than Android : Lol wut?
Hope that cleared few things up. Again, if you got a myth of your own, feel free to post it in the thread!
kyokeun1234 said:
Hello I usually don't post stuff like this, but whenever I see someone answer something, they are not telling the fact, but the myth. These myths are well known "solutions", but never work, since they're myths So I'm here to tell most of the myths that people are spreading... If you have any other myths that you'll like to talk about or if one of my myth is false, feel free to post about it . So without farther ado, lets get started
Task Killers: As much as this is obvious, people still uses it. So much, that it is annoying. Android handles apps and tasks well. However, there is an exception, and that is when the app constantly freezes or crashes and you need to restart it. If that's the case, there's a "Running Apps" section, where you can force close apps under system settings. So you won't need 3rd party Task Killers, EVER
Battery Calibration (Draining then fully charging): People thinks that this is good for your battery life, but it isn't. The only thing that this does is make the system read the battery percentage more accurate. Doing this once per month might help you improve read battery % better, but it isn't necessarily at all.
Wiping battery stat when the phone doesn't charge up to 100%: This myth is quite annoying. I dunno about other forums, but in Galaxy Nexus forum, quite a few people use this myth as a answer. Wiping battery stats DOES NOTHING to how system reads battery%.
Anti-Virus app: This is another myth that is obvious, but used by many people. You don't need anti-virus apps, unless you download a lot from untrusted source (4shared, because it is uploaded by people, not the company). If you know (And you SHOULD) what you're downloading, anti-virus is nothing.
Benchmark: People get so hyped about benchmark results... And I dunno why... It's just a number, I tell them. It wouldn't matter in daily usage, I tell them. But they do it anyways... Benchmarks are just numbers people. My Gnex can be as smooth and fast as GS3, but have a significant difference in benchmark tests.
Quad-core is faster than duel-core: While this isn't a myth, it isn't 100% correct either. You see, in daily usage, the phone only uses and needs a little bit of CPU power. For example, Facebook app doesn't use full 4 cores. That's just plane silly. However, when it comes to heavy gaming, yes, that 2-extra cores will help. But overall in daily usage, you're not gonna miss almost anything, because you have duel-core...
You need to clear cache and dalvik when updating/flashing a custom kernel: This is not true. I flash Franco kernel without clearing anything with NO problem.
You need to fix permission whenever you dirty flash: I don't hear that too often, but people still believes in it. Fixing permission isn't necessarily, unless you're experiencing random force close or crash.
Hope that cleared few things up. Again, if you got a myth of your own, feel free to post it in the thread!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some interesting stuff
Sent from my SGH-T989 with Cyanogenmod 10 Alpha Power.
Quad core uses more battery than dual-core: this confusion comes from the intuition that "you'd need more power to run 4 of them". In fact, the results are closer to the opposite: on those rare occasions where multiple cores are used, they allow for faster processing (hence more sleep) and less intensive. Mostly, however, it just doesn't make a difference.
sent from my Galaxy Nexus "the most tweakable iPhone yet"
kyokeun1234 said:
Benchmark: People get so hyped about benchmark results... And I dunno why... It's just a number, I tell them. It wouldn't matter in daily usage, I tell them. But they do it anyways... Benchmarks are just numbers people. My Gnex can be as smooth and fast as GS3, but have a significant difference in benchmark tests.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stop embarrassing yourself
A lot of ppl ask me for benchmarks in my roms lol, but I tell them this all the time
Sent from my PG86100 using xda app-developers app
jaw2floor said:
Stop embarrassing yourself
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How am I embarrassing myself?
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel, overclocked to 1.4GHz
Interesting and fun facts!!!!!
Love this, nice tread
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
Chono631 said:
Love this, nice tread
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you
hankbizzo5 said:
Interesting and fun facts!!!!! dual core lol.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL just noticed that :laugh: silly me. Editing right now. Sorry, English is my second language
Added some more stuff! Hope you guys like it!
I like it but the only one i disagree with is -
"Turn GPS off when not using"
I turn mine off when not using it for navigation because i dont want apps......yes that ive given permission to......to access my location.
Nothing to do with battery.
But good list!
Jrhoop said:
I like it but the only one i disagree with is -
"Turn GPS off when not using"
I turn mine off when not using it for navigation because i dont want apps......yes that ive given permission to......to access my location.
Nothing to do with battery.
But good list!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
GPS is a huge battery hog, I make roms, I run the tests, and my testers test, they experience a couple hours extension worth of battery life without it on
Sent from my PG86100 using xda app-developers app
A myth by many people. Here, it is.
iOs is better than Android XD
Sent from Hell!!
.xxx. said:
A myth by many people. Here, it is.
iOs is better than Android XD
Sent from Hell!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HA! It's so good, I HAVE to add it to the post!
kyokeun1234 said:
HA! It's so good, I HAVE to add it to the post!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You shouldn't. BEWARE, they will SUE you for taking their name in PUBLIC FORUM
Sent from Hell!!
.xxx. said:
You shouldn't. BEWARE, they will SUE you for taking their name in PUBLIC FORUM
Sent from Hell!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol. I posted just for giggles
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel, overclocked to 1.4GHz
kyokeun1234 said:
Lol. I posted just for giggles
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel, overclocked to 1.4GHz
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Giggles but truth xD
Sent from Hell!!
We should send these in to mytbusters so they can prove/disprove the facts. I personally use appkillers because the newer ones to make a difference on my underpowered P500. While these apps to start up, they consume less memory when started in the background and allows for faster start up once killed by the task manager.Android does have impressive memory management, but nothing is infallable.
Battery stats is just silly, if you keep charging till 90% then unplug, you can make it appear that your device can run for days on one charge, so that is very misleading.
Benchmarks are worth noting when it comes to gaming performance. On my device ICS definatly scores lower than gb, yet it runs smoother day to day. Playing games is tragic simply because the drivers are an issue on this device for ICS.
You dont need to clear the dalvik cache or normal cache to flash a kernel, the kernel modules are loaded at boot. The linux core behind android was designed this way. Clearing them when you flash to a different rom eg: AOKP to CM9 its a good idea to flash the cache since this could retain incompatible files between roms.
Myths arent annoying, people clinging to them for no reason is annoying.
cornelha said:
We should send these in to mytbusters so they can prove/disprove the facts. I personally use appkillers because the newer ones to make a difference on my underpowered P500. While these apps to start up, they consume less memory when started in the background and allows for faster start up once killed by the task manager.Android does have impressive memory management, but nothing is infallable.
Battery stats is just silly, if you keep charging till 90% then unplug, you can make it appear that your device can run for days on one charge, so that is very misleading.
Benchmarks are worth noting when it comes to gaming performance. On my device ICS definatly scores lower than gb, yet it runs smoother day to day. Playing games is tragic simply because the drivers are an issue on this device for ICS.
You dont need to clear the dalvik cache or normal cache to flash a kernel, the kernel modules are loaded at boot. The linux core behind android was designed this way. Clearing them when you flash to a different rom eg: AOKP to CM9 its a good idea to flash the cache since this could retain incompatible files between roms.
Myths arent annoying, people clinging to them for no reason is annoying.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I also had P500 and app killers did almost nothing at all... Maybe it's just me?
That's not what I've meant when I said about battery stat.. Some people's phone just doesn't simply charge all the way up to 100%. And others just tell them to clear battery stat, which does nothing...
Benchmarks ARE pointless in my opinion. I personally don't think that noting Benchmark scores are needed... Also they are not very accurate either. What I mean by that? Well, in real life (including gaming), even if you overclock, the performance isn't so huge. But in Benchmark scores, little overclock increases the score a lot.
I know myth itself isn't annoying, but people spread them. Like crazy. And that's what irks me
I've rooted one phone in my history of rooting - the mytouch 4g. I found it very unstable during that process thus my hold off of rooting until now.
I have a Nexus 5, thus me creating a thread in this forum. I know many will just tell me to google or whatever but I rather get someone's actual response to my post.
That said, what is the different between a ROM and a Kernal. And how can one tell if one is better than another?
I think I want what everyone wants in their phones - stability and extended battery life.
Thanks again.
a rom is the ui, it gives the user variables to adjust and can add some features. a kernel is the central control of your whole phone. it ties the cpu to the rest of your phone, and to your ui. the kernel is like the brain, where the rom is like the outside/skin of the body.
hiw do you know which is better? only by trying them out. some phones will like certain kernels better than others, and you wont know which until you try.
Hi,
Sorry to give you a link to explain what is a rom and what is a kernel, but anyway: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel, for me it's a good start.
About battery life it's not the rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a "bug"), at least the kernel can play its role but it's mainly your use and settings, the apps you use...
If you have a bad signal reception or a rogue apps with a ton of wakelocks, whatever the rom or the kernel, it will be always the same thing.
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Hi,
Sorry to give you a link to explain what is a rom and what is a kernel, but anyway: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel, for me it's a good start.
About battery life it's not the rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a "bug"), at least the kernel can play its role but it's mainly your use and settings, the apps you use...
If you have a bad signal reception or a rogue apps with a ton of wakelocks, whatever the rom or the kernel, it will be always the same thing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hammer-thanks for the link. Very informative for me and I am sure others.
Doc
TXRaunchy said:
I've rooted one phone in my history of rooting - the mytouch 4g. I found it very unstable during that process thus my hold off of rooting until now.
I have a Nexus 5, thus me creating a thread in this forum. I know many will just tell me to google or whatever but I rather get someone's actual response to my post.
That said, what is the different between a ROM and a Kernal. And how can one tell if one is better than another?
I think I want what everyone wants in their phones - stability and extended battery life.
Thanks again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I`am not rooted also atm, the device does everything that i need it to do to be honest. Rooting is handy and usefull if you want to use features or do things that cannot be done with the stock configuration. Read the first 4 threads in the General section well if you want to learn the basics of rooting.