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[Q] how you will fight against not removable battery?

well i like it this phone htc one x its pretty nice for me i want it, perhaps the only thing start bother me its battery, i had an evo 3d and i usually have extra batteries, and works well, perhaps im not sure how you will beat this?
im thinking the extra chargers that works as usb battery but not sure wich one are the best and cheap xD
for example like this:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/portable-12000mah-rechargeable-power-battery-pack-white-119917
what do you think?

I wouldn't buy anything like that from dealextreme. There are plenty of portable chargers out there such as the powermonkey:
powermonkey
or some solar versions:
powermonkey explorer
Powermonkey Explorer
Monaco
Monaco Solar Charger
or if you are looking for more power for a really long time away from outlets:
New Trent - Ranges from 5000mAh to 11,000mAh
New Trents on amazon
Although it is very disappointing not to be able to just carry another fully charged battery that you can just change. I have been using an extra battery and desk charger since the early 2000's and now technology is leading towards phones without this feature and without removable SD cards. It seems like a step backwards. I managed to go on after the change from hardware keyboard to touchscreen as there was a benefit, but there just isn't enough reason to take away these features.
We all know where this whole idea of not allowing SD cards or removable batteries came from. Everyone is trying to be the iPhone. Next Google will force you to install Gtunes before you can use your phone.

htc-ppc said:
I wouldn't buy anything like that from dealextreme. There are plenty of portable chargers out there such as the powermonkey:
http://www.amazon.com/Powermonkey-PowerTraveller-Portable-Charger-Grey/dp/B000JUBTYC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332218058&sr=8-1
or some solar versions:
powermonkey explorer
http://www.amazon.com/Powertraveller-powermonkey-eXplorer-Version-Portable/dp/B003ID5TX4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1332218169&sr=8-2
Monaco
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=44094
or if you are looking for more power for a really long time away from outlets:
New Trent - Ranges from 5000mAh to 11,000mAh
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=new+trent
Although it is very disappointing not to be able to just carry another fully charged battery that you can just change. I have been using an extra battery and desk charger since the early 2000's and now technology is leading towards phones without this feature and without removable SD cards. It seems like a step backwards. I managed to go on after the change from hardware keyboard to touchscreen as there was a benefit, but there just isn't enough reason to take away these features.
We all know where this whole idea of not allowing SD cards or removable batteries came from. Everyone is trying to be the iPhone. Next Google will force you to install Gtunes before you can use your phone.
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looks well, perhaps i will check this brand on ebay, since amazon charge me a lot for delivery to my country :S
Not SD its not big deal for me but battery? that suck and if htc will make not removable they should be at least like razr maxx in battery mah
thanks a lot, and why you dont like DX?

The stuff from dealextreme is great if your are looking for cheap stuff that you don't mind if it breaks in a month. Also you may be waiting a loooooong time for shipping. For the cheap stuff it's great, but you DO NOT want to charge your phone with some cheap electronics from Hong Kong. It will mess up your battery and then you will really have a problem with keeping a charge. Don't want to have send in your expensive One X for repair because of a fried battery. Seen way to many phones ruined by cheap chargers. Spend the money on a good one.
I went back and fixed the links, but if you need to buy from somewhere else, that's fine. Powermonkey are sold in other countries and have adapters for different plugs if you travel. Then again I guess you could find an adapter for any of them.

htc-ppc said:
The stuff from dealextreme is great if your are looking for cheap stuff that you don't mind if it breaks in a month. Also you may be waiting a loooooong time for shipping. For the cheap stuff it's great, but you DO NOT want to charge your phone with some cheap electronics from Hong Kong. It will mess up your battery and then you will really have a problem with keeping a charge. Don't want to have send in your expensive One X for repair because of a fried battery. Seen way to many phones ruined by cheap chargers. Spend the money on a good one.
I went back and fixed the links, but if you need to buy from somewhere else, that's fine. Powermonkey are sold in other countries and have adapters for different plugs if you travel. Then again I guess you could find an adapter for any of them.
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thanks, damn htc i was so cool just switching batteries anyways i will check on ebay thanks, i read about powermat but seems expensive.
i wil check it thanks a lot

Non-removable battery does have a very good reason, because if battery is removable, they must make the battery strong enough to be able to take some potential stress from being dropped, etc. Non-removable batteries can have thinner walls because the phone casing will protect the battery, and since it will not have to be removed very often it is possible to have the battery have more surface area on the phone to occupy.

We need cases like these. my friend gets about 2 days heavy use on his iPhone 4 with it. Unfortunately I've only seen cases with batteries for iPhones.

nerdtaco said:
We need cases like these. my friend gets about 2 days heavy use on his iPhone 4 with it. Unfortunately I've only seen cases with batteries for iPhones.
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wow would be nice for the One X i hope we can get this

No kidding. I am so envious of him. That case also allows him to charge using a regular micro USB cable. I'm surprised at the lack of cases for most Android phones.
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Having a charger in my coat pocket.
I really don't think it will be an issue to make it through a full day.

Have a feeling that portable chargers are going to get a lot more popular as the non-removable battery becomes more standard.
Have the New Trent 11,000 mAh model which can keep me going for a week away from a power outlet. I'm not usually far from an outlet as I have the home charger, car charger, and usb port from my computer at work, but always easy to carry around my portable charger as it isn't very big and fits in my pocket. The other ones are even smaller.
Not too fond of the idea of having to use a case that makes my thin sexy phone into a hulk for just a little more juice.

iphones dont have removable battery so we will be just like them

hello00 said:
iphones dont have removable battery so we will be just like them
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Which sucks. If I wanted to be like them I would buy an iphone.

cbarth3 said:
Which sucks. If I wanted to be like them I would buy an iphone.
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I hate the fact you can't remove the battery for a lot of reasons, one big one is I aways carried an extra battery because I did not buy a powerful phone to tweak it so it can't use all the power it came with.

They really need to put bigger batteries inside phones like motorola did , or make the back of phone from solar cells so it could recharge at daylight when flipped over

No plans for Mophie for S4

I just called customer support at Mophie, they told me that there are no plans for production of a mophie case for s4.. they do have one already for HTC One. . not fair... :crying:

yonex2 said:
I just called customer support at Mophie, they told me that there are no plans for production of a mophie case for s4.. they do have one already for HTC One. . not fair... :crying:
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Their loss. Samsung sold 20 million S4s, whereas HTC sold 5+ million.

av911 said:
Their loss. Samsung sold 20 million S4s, whereas HTC sold 5+ million.
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Their thinking is prob they wouldn't have to compete with extended batteries when it comes to the HTC One while they'd have to with the S4

Im willing to bet that the mophie for S3 was highly unsuccessful partially because of the $100 price but mainly because of the removable battery. It simply is not worth their time to build a mophie for the S4 when extended batteries are so readily available.
Didn't Samsung release a 3000mAH battery for the S3 so we can expect an official extended battery for the S4 aswell.
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Not necessarily the case (pun?). We don't release information on products pre-release. This doesn't mean that we aren't working on anything at all, just that we don't have any info to pass on as of right now. However, when we do, our mophieDOTcom/newsletter (pardon the lack of direct link due to XDA policies) is where we'll pass the info along first!
Stay charged, ladies and gentlemen.
mophie

mophie said:
Not necessarily the case (pun?). We don't release information on products pre-release. This doesn't mean that we aren't working on anything at all, just that we don't have any info to pass on as of right now. However, when we do, our mophieDOTcom/newsletter (pardon the lack of direct link due to XDA policies) is where we'll pass the info along first!
Stay charged, ladies and gentlemen.
mophie
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Mophie,
I respect your company - you recently helped me when I got screwed by a counterfeiter... I appreciate that. I also respect your policy, but if I drop $80 on a competitor's case, even if you roll one the next day - I'm not likely to drop $100 on one of yours (which is what I want).
Scott

Why in the world would you want a battery case, especially if it costs $100?
The S4 has a user replaceable battery, buy a bigger one or an extra one. It's cheaper and way more efficient.
$40 for a 7,500 mAh zerolemon battery, which comes with a case and your phone will last 3 days with 12 hours of screen time.
If you don't want to live with the bulk get a few small batteries too.
You would still have change to buy a nice case if you needed it.
Hopefully the guys at Mophie have some common sense and don't waste their working capital to make an external battery case for the S4.

WarbyParker said:
Why in the world would you want a battery case, especially if it costs $100?
The S4 has a user replaceable battery, buy a bigger one or an extra one. It's cheaper and way more efficient.
$40 for a 7,500 mAh zerolemon battery, which comes with a case and your phone will last 3 days with 12 hours of screen time.
If you don't want to live with the bulk get a few small batteries too.
You would still have change to buy a nice case if you needed it.
Hopefully the guys at Mophie have some common sense and don't waste their working capital to make an external battery case for the S4.
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Agreed! If you are willing to carry the extra bulk of the case, might as well just carry extra battery packs.

rango mango said:
Agreed! If you are willing to carry the extra bulk of the case, might as well just carry extra battery packs.
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All in one solution is better for most people, but form factor is a problem. Since most of the premium cases are made for standard sizes and probably because 2600 is going to be generally enough.
The vast majority of the users will find the 2600 mah ample enough for their needs. Especially once they figure out to turn off location services via wifi and reporting to Google.
Those people who use their smart phones for more than phone calls, texts, emails, occasional web support, and here and there app support are generally okay.
It's those people who use their smart phones as gaming platforms, their ongoing wifi hotspot connection etc. In other words, of those 20 million devices sold, I'd venture to say that marketshare is small.
Then you various solutions already like people have mentioned.
I've had a morphie case before and I'm quite certain that it's protection as a case is on par or WORSE than the zerolemon backplate/case combination that gives you 7500 mah. The case solutions for the 4500 mah/5200 mah extended batteries are poor.

Any cheap backup batteries yet ?

Any cheap backup batteries yet ? Ideally with wall charger.

I think the only one available right now is the stock Samsung batteries. You might be able to find a 50% off coupon. It comes with a battery charger. However I would wait for a company like Anker to release 3rd party backup batteries because I've found 3rd party batteries to have longer battery life than the stock batteries.

There is nothing. It's funny cause I had the G3 before this and there were a few preorders on Amazon already. I would think there would be more for the Note 4. What sucks is, Samsung had the spare battery with a charger for $20 but it sold out real quick. Who know's when that will come back in stock. I put my email down to know when they come back in stock, but I have done that before and never heard anything.

Made in China batteries
JeffATL said:
Any cheap backup batteries yet ? Ideally with wall charger.
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I can't post links yet because I'm a new user, but go to ebay and search for note 4 batteries. There is one from China that has a picture of three batteries and a charger.
I've used these batteries for my Note II and Note 3. They work great for about 9 months to a year. They still hold a charge after that time, but not as well as the stock battery. The stock battery will eventually crap out too; all batteries do. It's a great deal at $20 for three batteries and a charger. I also prefer to use this charger instead of the one that comes with the phone because it charges more slowly and will give you more charge cycles on your batteries. I would also disable fast charging unless you're desperate for juice because you will get fewer charge cycles out of your batteries before they start to suck.

JeffATL said:
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I wouldn't use a cheap battery option for a £630 smartphone.

jah said:
I wouldn't use a cheap battery option for a £630 smartphone.
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Exactly this!
Batteries are not something people should cheap out on, for the sake of only £10 or so! Nearly all the cases posted around the internet of people's phones going up in smoke are due to cheap, third party batteries and/or chargers. Then there's the issue that most cheap third-party replacement batteries will have far less than the advertised capacity.
They're just a risk that is not worth it.

drainbamaged said:
I can't post links yet because I'm a new user, but go to ebay and search for note 4 batteries. There is one from China that has a picture of three batteries and a charger.
I've used these batteries for my Note II and Note 3. They work great for about 9 months to a year. They still hold a charge after that time, but not as well as the stock battery. The stock battery will eventually crap out too; all batteries do. It's a great deal at $20 for three batteries and a charger. I also prefer to use this charger instead of the one that comes with the phone because it charges more slowly and will give you more charge cycles on your batteries. I would also disable fast charging unless you're desperate for juice because you will get fewer charge cycles out of your batteries before they start to suck.
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Did you bought those from China? How is it? Anyone knows?

I love the made in China batteries.
I understand the concerns with using a cheap battery, but I've used the ones on ebay for years now without any problems or harm to my devices. The savings are not a mere 10 quid. You get three batteries for half the price of one. The made in China batteries definitely don't last as long as the stock battery, but I've never seen one blow up and I'm not afraid or concerned about it ruining my phone.
There is one legitimate drawback compared to the stock battery though. The NFC chip is embedded in the battery on the note 4 so if you use NFC a lot then clearly you should stick with a stock battery.
I hardly ever use NFC so I'll still use the made in China battery from ebay.

drainbamaged said:
I understand the concerns with using a cheap battery, but I've used the ones on ebay for years now without any problems or harm to my devices. The savings are not a mere 10 quid. You get three batteries for half the price of one. The made in China batteries definitely don't last as long as the stock battery, but I've never seen one blow up and I'm not afraid or concerned about it ruining my phone.
There is one legitimate drawback compared to the stock battery though. The NFC chip is embedded in the battery on the note 4 so if you use NFC a lot then clearly you should stick with a stock battery.
I hardly ever use NFC so I'll still use the made in China battery from ebay.
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I agree 100% with you. I am not worried about the battery blowing up. Its rare. And for my S3 and Epic prior to that they served their purpose. Backup for when you run out of power.
However, based on other thread if I can buy Samsung's for 50% off battery and charger ($20-$25) I would do it, just OOS.

Yeah, personally I have bought those cheap Chinese batteries off of Ebay, and I don't think they are worth it. I'm not worried about them ruining my phone, that is very unlikely. They just don't last long enough. I'm waiting for a reputable company to come out with a set with a charger. Like Anker. That usually runs about $30 bucks with 2 batteries and a charger compared to what $80 for the Samsung one. Even if they are .01% more likely to ruin my phone, that doesn't warrant spending an extra $50 like some people would lead you to believe.

Nate Rules said:
Yeah, personally I have bought those cheap Chinese batteries off of Ebay, and I don't think they are worth it. I'm not worried about them ruining my phone, that is very unlikely. They just don't last long enough. I'm waiting for a reputable company to come out with a set with a charger. Like Anker. That usually runs about $30 bucks with 2 batteries and a charger compared to what $80 for the Samsung one. Even if they are .01% more likely to ruin my phone, that doesn't warrant spending an extra $50 like some people would lead you to believe.
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Anker are very good, and not cheap as OP was talking about. I would use Anker but not a cheap option.

But Anker hasn't been to quick to get batteries out. I would suggest buying the Caseology batteries when they become available on Amazon. They always put up a preorder with a really good price but a ship date that is a month away. I always resist ordering it hoping that something will come sooner but they are usually the first and by the time they ship they are more expensive. And they get pretty good reviews.

FWIW, when I went to charge the batteries for our trade in phones, both stock batteries couldn't hold a charge at all.. BUT the cheap extended batteries I'd purchased from china had no issues at all.
(As a matter of fact, one of the stock batteries had developed that battery bulge we've heard about, and I couldn't even put the back on the phone with it in!)

Just buy the official spare and charge from Sammys site for 50% off.
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moralesd66 said:
Just buy the official spare and charge from Sammys site for 50% off.
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They're currently out of stock, and on backorder.

They get em in fast. Check 2x daily.
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Odds are we'll see quick chargers paired with 2 batteries on ebay soon for $12 shipped or so, similar to other phone battery options.
Since that's less than 50% the cost of the Sammy's I'll just wait for a week or two for them.

there are several on eBay just be careful as some are just 3000 MAH and some are 5400 MAH so just choose wisely if you decided to buy from eBay but most offer 2/3 batteries for 15$ or so

moralesd66 said:
Just buy the official spare and charge from Sammys site for 50% off.
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can you post which coupon code you used? because the ones i'm finding aren't valid even on the other current in stock accessories.

Keep an eye on this thread for coupon codes.

Spare Battery Carrying Case for Pocket?

Hello all,
I recently purchased a set of 2 Anker Batteries + External Battery Charger (all part of the same set) and noticed a seemingly minor detail.
It was a detail that I actually didn't even think about, I just assumed it was there - until receiving the product. This detail is a carrying case for an external battery. This would of course be incredibly useful to have since.. why would I want to carry a BARE external battery around in my pocket, possibly damaging it (ex: damaging the terminals, inductors of the battery).
I noticed that Samsung's external battery kit actually DOES come with one of these such cases. Here's a picture of what I'm referring to and looking for, here:
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*I'm aware that that the above pictured battery isn't a Note 4 battery - I couldn't quickly find (of course.. now that I'm looking for it, lol) an exact one of what I'm referring to.
ANYWAYS: does anybody know where I could purchase such a simple carrying case for a Note 4 battery? Whether it's made of plastic or adamantium I don't care, lol, just so long as it's SNUG and fits right to the Note 4 battery without taking up extra space (bulk), so that I can easily slide it into my pocket without worry of damage. I'm using the standard 3,220 mAh sized batteries.
THANKS to anybody and everybody with any helpful information on the matter - I just ordered a Note 4 (supposed to arrive tomorrow!! ) and am excited to get rolling with it ASAP. If you know some place that sells one of these or maybe even have an extra yourself that you'd be interested in selling please let me know. I can't imagine these things possibly cost very much, lol - which is why I just don't get why they would ever not be included (I mean, really... it's plastic..).
*Please note that this is not a knock on Anker - their Note 4 external battery pack kit is a freakin' KILLER deal, from an amazing company! TWO batteries PLUS an External Battery charger for almost a full 30% LESS than what Samsung would sell just ONE battery + charger for. AND from an awesome, high-quality oriented company! I just again don't get why at least in this kit in particular (at least currently) there's no case for the very batteries they're selling.. how else were they expecting us to carry these around? Lol..
Thanks everybody!
- DNAndroid_
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Did you ever find one? I've been looking and haven't found anything...

Where to buy an external charger and spare batteries (UK) - advice

I've just bought a used N910F and wanted to get myself some spare batteries and an external charger. I've just moved up from a Note 3 and previously, an S3 LTE and had multiple batteries for both, with external chargers and I'd like to get the same for the Note 4.
I'm based in the UK and so I'm somewhat limited to what products I can get hold of. I'd like to get one of the Samsung external charger but I was wondering - as these are just running from the mains charger that you're using to charge the phone, is there any issue buying one of the non-Sammy, generic ones? I'd assume that the charger takes care of any overcharging issues - is that correct? If anyone has a link to any cheap genuine Samsung units, I'd be very pleased to have a look. I found one for £30 at Amazon, but it's a 1-3 month wait!
As for spare batteries, I've always gone for the Anker batteries and found them pretty good, and it's looking as though that's the only option for me at the mo - Amazon have them for £14 shipped where as the Powercell units are over £18. Any genuine ones for around £20? I'm not about to waste my money on the ebay cheapies!
Thanks for your time guys! :fingers-crossed:

Amazon buy anker,mpj,etc

I just recently purchased a standard Samsung battery from Amazon - http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00VIK5DOY
Although there are cheaper options, I made sure that I selected the one that was sold by Amazon themselves on the basis that they are very unlikely to sell fakes - the one I got for £10.63 with next day delivery on Prime certainly seems genuine to me.

StevePritchard said:
I just recently purchased a standard Samsung battery from Amazon - http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00VIK5DOY
Although there are cheaper options, I made sure that I selected the one that was sold by Amazon themselves on the basis that they are very unlikely to sell fakes - the one I got for £10.63 with next day delivery on Prime certainly seems genuine to me.
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Thanks for getting back to me with an actual product. How is the battery holding up? I'm really happy with the Anker one I bought - I'm getting about 1.5 days of moderate use and 5+ hours of SOT between charges. I don't use NFC at the mo so I don't know if this supports it, but as things stand I'd be happy to get another one or two. Does anyone know how to tell if theses "genuine Samsung" batteries are indeed, genuine? I remember reading up on it when I had the Note 3 and it was really tricky visually.
What about these external chargers - anyone had any experience of the non-Samsung ones?

woldranger said:
Thanks for getting back to me with an actual product. How is the battery holding up? I'm really happy with the Anker one I bought - I'm getting about 1.5 days of moderate use and 5+ hours of SOT between charges. I don't use NFC at the mo so I don't know if this supports it, but as things stand I'd be happy to get another one or two. Does anyone know how to tell if theses "genuine Samsung" batteries are indeed, genuine? I remember reading up on it when I had the Note 3 and it was really tricky visually.
What about these external chargers - anyone had any experience of the non-Samsung ones?
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The battery works fine for me, and is a definite improvement on the tired genuine battery it replaced.

Well, I've bought, what's labelled as a "genuine samsung extra battery kit". It's currently charging the enclosed battery in the external cradle. I'll try it in the phone to check if the NFC works to be sure that the battery is a genuine Sammy one, but any ideas on how to check the charging cradle?

Just bought a replacement battery direct from the Samsung UK site - £25 but worth it for the peace of mind. Free delivery.
EDIT: Ordered at 5:00pm, it's now the next morning and my battery has arrived - great speed for free delivery! (Now, if only Samsung could get their firmware updates out as fast!)
EDIT: Genuine Samsung packaging (with the window on the front of the box, and a plastic container for the battery) and manufacture date of last month, so fresh off the assembly line

I've just charged up the battery that came in the "kit". Appearance wise it looks identical (but dont most of them?!) but I just tried it with NFC and that worked - I thought the fakes didn't have the NFC chip - or have some of them started adding it or have I just got a genuine one for a really good price?!

woldranger said:
I've just charged up the battery that came in the "kit". Appearance wise it looks identical (but dont most of them?!) but I just tried it with NFC and that worked - I thought the fakes didn't have the NFC chip - or have some of them started adding it or have I just got a genuine one for a really good price?!
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Where did you buy it from?