Dropped Frames/Perfect Device? - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

Hi Guys I see that no device can do 60fps butter smooth all the time, there's always a dropped frame stutter or lag, even on a nexus 6 or whatever new device comes along, doesn't matter how powerful it is, even at max clock speed the thing just drops a frame or something anywhere. Like no company has ever come up with a perfect device until now, even iOS which is always "smooth" drops frame in the UI from time to time. If you explicitly tell an app to lock the UI at 60fps it will always drop somewhere in between. Why is that?

tichs said:
Hi Guys I see that no device can do 60fps butter smooth all the time, there's always a dropped frame stutter or lag, even on a nexus 6 or whatever new device comes along, doesn't matter how powerful it is, even at max clock speed the thing just drops a frame or something anywhere. Like no company has ever come up with a perfect device until now, even iOS which is always "smooth" drops frame in the UI from time to time. If you explicitly tell an app to lock the UI at 60fps it will always drop somewhere in between. Why is that?
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1. CPU getting hot
2. Bad OS
3. Bad apps
4. Bad flash memory
5. Bad RAM management
6. RAM getting low
7. GPU throttle
8. You've think your phone like a computer

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[Q] Does the Nexus 5 run a little hot by default?

Just got a brand new Nexus 5, the newer batches with the speaker hole a lil bigger, and on stock rom and kernel it seemed to run a wee bit hot doing nothing, or very minimal tasks like going through main settings...
Is this normal? I can understand any phone getting hotter with a heavy load like some video games, but not while doing almost nothing... My ancient old LG Motion 4G is stone cold, even with heavy tasking, and I know that's not a fair comparison, but I wonder...
Will try a custom Kernel, and see if some settings help...
thenetvines said:
Just got a brand new Nexus 5, the newer batches with the speaker hole a lil bigger, and on stock rom and kernel it seemed to run a wee bit hot doing nothing, or very minimal tasks like going through main settings...
Is this normal? I can understand any phone getting hotter with a heavy load like some video games, but not while doing almost nothing... My ancient old LG Motion 4G is stone cold, even with heavy tasking, and I know that's not a fair comparison, but I wonder...
Will try a custom Kernel, and see if some settings help...
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its normal.
your old LG wasnt a 2.3ghz quad core either. depending on what the temps are around you, and what tasks you are doing with the phone, its normal for it to be anywhere from 30C-70C. even if you are playing cpu intensive games, it can be normal for your device to hit 80-85C. at 100C, itll automatically shut down to cool off.
Personally I think the n5 stays pretty cools, mine sits around 40c with normal usage and even with gaming ita around 60c.
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If it's just a little hot, it's probably normal. Mine doesn't seem to get hot under normal usage, though I suppose even if it did I wouldn't notice because I have it in a TPU case all the time. How hot it get probably varies from chip to chip, as no two CPUs are 100% identical. If it starts throttling under normal usage, then I would be concerned.

[Q] Why my Nexus 5 seems to slow down time to time

Hey guys,
Have you noticed that your Nexus 5 slows down time to time? Couple times per day my phone slows down significantly and starts almost to micro stutter. UI is not working 60fps and everything seems just little bit laggy. And again maybe hour or two later my phone feels super smooth. Is there some background processes in Android which causes this behavior or is it something in Nexus 5? If there is something that can be done, please share your tips.
questions go into q&a, not general.
and there is no right answer for you, as it can be one of a multitude of things. only you know what apps you have installed and what you use. it even can be your phone just freeing ram, if your ram is full. i can literally think of 20n things off the top of my head that can cause that. what info you gave us, pretty much none, wont get you any answers.
PeK_m said:
Hey guys,
Have you noticed that your Nexus 5 slows down time to time? Couple times per day my phone slows down significantly and starts almost to micro stutter. UI is not working 60fps and everything seems just little bit laggy. And again maybe hour or two later my phone feels super smooth. Is there some background processes in Android which causes this behavior or is it something in Nexus 5? If there is something that can be done, please share your tips.
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State ROM, kernel, mods used.
I had the same experience if I flashed mods such as optimised dalvik/bionic and Qualcomm latest GPU drivers.
Also had this when I used Xposed framework. Certain modules would just go haywire after a certain amount of hours.
Another thing is that certain ROMs, degrade system performance as the number of features rises up. So it might be your ROM.
Well this happens on every rom (even stock), with and without any mods or custom kernels, and that is precisely why I am asking. I am well aware that custom roms, kernels and mods can cause this kind of behavior, but this thing happens in all configurations. It happens whether I have installed 2 or 75 apps. Move thread if necessary.
PeK_m said:
Hey guys,
Have you noticed that your Nexus 5 slows down time to time? Couple times per day my phone slows down significantly and starts almost to micro stutter. UI is not working 60fps and everything seems just little bit laggy. And again maybe hour or two later my phone feels super smooth. Is there some background processes in Android which causes this behavior or is it something in Nexus 5? If there is something that can be done, please share your tips.
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Is your storage almost full? NAND tends to slow down considerably as it fills up just like with SSDs.
Most likely though it's a service you have running.

Overall speed

Would you say that the Huawei Nexus 6P is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Huawei Nexus 6P exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Nice info , it used for me .
iMehran said:
Nice info , it used for me .
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I don't get it
I don't get it either, but I will say this phone is one of the fastest I've ever used in day to day usage. I came from a Galaxy S6 128gb and this device is a constant smooth experience. Jank and constant app reloads is what killed the S6 for me.
Hangouts is responsive and smooth... I think that says it all.
Faster than the OnePlus2, which has the same processor and more RAM... Not near as laggy.
No lags, no hiccups, just pure unadulterated speed.
iMehran said:
Nice info , it used for me .
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What do you mean - Justin Bieber
fast for me. faster than the tears when watchin a nicholas sparks movie.
This phone flies.
Granted im coming from a galaxy S3, but still, this phone is awesome
Yeah I've had absolutely 0 times where this phone has hung/frozen/janked/Etc.
Think that's all I need to say really. Also, multitasking works great and apps don't constantly have to refresh. Benchmarks are completely pointless and it amazes me that people still think they're important on smartphones. Especially when the Samsung phones all blow this out the water with their crazy antutu scores, yet people still claim this phone is faster and less often freezes up or hangs.
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It is very fast, it does clock down when hot, but that is a good thing.
In normal usage the heat is low and the phone flies but even only somewhat intensive games definitely heat up the phone faster and the framerate suffers.
the phone feels fast as hell after it boots up, but after awhile when you start opening up a bunch of stuff and its still in ur task manager.. things start slowing down a lot
iMehran said:
Nice info , it used for me .
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WHAT !?! - Lil John
The phone is fast, but it is not without some issues.
In particular, I have some bluetooth issues - the phone randomly disconnects from my car's BT, and only a reboot would fix it.
I used Nexus 5, Moto X 2nd gen, and Moto X Pure previously in the same car, and had no issues.
Hoping it is software related, and the "fix" is on the way.
BTW, tried two Nexus 6P's and the same results with BT
My first Nexus phone and I might never switch from the Nexus line going forward. I've had it for almost a month now (received mine Oct 27th) and I still haven't had one hiccup or stutter. This phone is a champ and prob the most consistent performing phone I've had to date..
can't get any faster currently
Nothing to add, fastest device I had so far. Very snappy, no lags.
Boot and shutdown is a little slower than others, say GS6, but everything else is perfect. Doesnt skip a beat.
First phone that didnt stutter when you swipe left to Google now in the launcher (just checked it out before I switched to Nova, lol).
fast enough for me

Planning to buy this device have some questions.

I am planning to buy this device but I fear of some major issues normally exist with xiaomi devices and as well I know xiaomi it is expert in ignoring it or fixing it. Still I want to go with xiaomi again because I have learnt everything about its boot-loader unlocking and rooting.
I have redmi 3s and it suffers very serious problems like low fps stuttery video, Low data download speed even coverage, hoooooooorible audio recording quality. ( I should not complain about how much it gets hot as it comes with pretty mediocre chipest)
My friends also informed me about dead pixel issues. Even I have replaced my screen once.
I just want to keep running 4 apps at once with no heating or lag.
Is there any serious bug or issues with this device that I should know before buying this.
there is very minor screen bleeding which is not noticeable untill and unless you stare for a few seconds near the punch hole. No dead pixels for me. Multitasking is good easily handles a browser and few apps in the background. the main con with this device is the battery backup. if you are planning to use this device on 120hz then be ready to juice up your device atleast 2 times a day for me it is close to 4.
Umm fps in this X2 is around 50-60 fps in gaming and according to me camera fps is related to camera if company claims 960 fps then I will give but quality suffer sometimes ...and seriously I see many user compaling about battery it has 120hz screen with around 6.67 inch it's good that device is giving 5-6.5 hr continues gaming and if without gaming it can run for 1 day ver easily ( I play game for about 1-1.5 hr and I charged daily morning .. and heating is very common in all device but it can prevent by taking some steps like don't use while charge ... (Seriously I never feel any heating issue)

Question Refresh Rate Lowering To 60Hz

Hello everyone.
I bought Xperia 5 III about 3 days ago. While playing PUBG Mobile or other games, the device reduces the refresh rate to 60hz even though it hardly gets hot. Is there a setting we can do to prevent this? For example, when you delete the software called Battery & Performance on MIUI devices, such problems did not occur.
I don't really play games but I noticed the overall UI seems smoother with high refresh rate off. Scrolling long feeds even YouTube is stuttering.once it's on 60hz everything is smooth. Can't explain it.
Hizerxd said:
Hello everyone.
I bought Xperia 5 III about 3 days ago. While playing PUBG Mobile or other games, the device reduces the refresh rate to 60hz even though it hardly gets hot. Is there a setting we can do to prevent this? For example, when you delete the software called Battery & Performance on MIUI devices, such problems did not occur.
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I recently upgraded my 5 II to a 5 III and although I still don't wanna believe it, it's getting pretty obvious that the phone throttles the FPS from 120 to 60 Hz. The Xperia 5 II only did this sometimes when you were charging and gaming simulatenously.
However with the 5 III it sometimes tends to throttle just when you are surfing through the net or using some apps. During gaming without charging it also throttles often.
teostar said:
I don't really play games but I noticed the overall UI seems smoother with high refresh rate off. Scrolling long feeds even YouTube is stuttering.once it's on 60hz everything is smooth. Can't explain it.
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That's the second time I read about 60 Hz feeling smoother but for me it's just so much worse.
illyx said:
I recently upgraded my 5 II to a 5 III and although I still don't wanna believe it, it's getting pretty obvious that the phone throttles the FPS from 120 to 60 Hz. The Xperia 5 II only did this sometimes when you were charging and gaming simulatenously.
However with the 5 III it sometimes tends to throttle just when you are surfing through the net or using some apps. During gaming without charging it also throttles often.
That's the second time I read about 60 Hz feeling smoother but for me it's just so much worse.
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This could be an issue that will be fixed soon. Other than that, one of the best things to do if you're a gamer like me is to get a very good cooler.
teostar said:
I don't really play games but I noticed the overall UI seems smoother with high refresh rate off. Scrolling long feeds even YouTube is stuttering.once it's on 60hz everything is smooth. Can't explain it.
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Actually, this is a case of eye habit. If you used a device or monitor with a refresh rate above 60Hz before, when you use 60Hz again after a long time, it seems like it lags etc. But since you haven't used a panel above 60Hz so far, 60Hz seems very different to you.
illyx said:
I recently upgraded my 5 II to a 5 III and although I still don't wanna believe it, it's getting pretty obvious that the phone throttles the FPS from 120 to 60 Hz. The Xperia 5 II only did this sometimes when you were charging and gaming simulatenously.
However with the 5 III it sometimes tends to throttle just when you are surfing through the net or using some apps. During gaming without charging it also throttles often.
That's the second time I read about 60 Hz feeling smoother but for me it's just so much worse.
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It's because the 5mk3's Snapdragon 888 generates far more heat than the 5mk2's Snapdragon 865.

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