Or do we have to buy one separately?
Separately
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Wow that sucks. Is it known how much one will cost?
$700 for 32 GB, $800 for 64 GB and $900 for 128 GB.. Prices are in can. $
Xttp://mobilesyrup.com/2015/03/02/canadian-pricing-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s6-and-galaxy-s6-edge/
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In the Netherlands there is a pre-registration offer which gives the pad for free. Otherwise you have to buy it. The retail price in the Netherlands for that charging pad is €24.99 so that would probably be $24.99.
Wireless charging pad included in preorders via Canadian carriers.
I'm guessing BestBuy, etc. in Canada, US and elsewhere will be offering the same.
Only late buyers will have to buy it separately. I think I saw $25 which isn't bad.
I'm here in the US, so all that doesn't apply to me.... but HOPEFULLY the US carriers will do the same! If not $25 isn't bad at all!
On a side note... Is there "faster" wireless chargers, or do all wireless chargers charge at the same rate?
I think most of the US carriers as well as US BestBuy and other retailers will be offering the wireless pad on pre-orders.
Efficiency is the big question.
There hasn't been any info on specs and improvements to the tech that I know of besides that the S6 and Edge will support both wireless standards.
I have a Qi pad and slim under the back cover receiver for my S5 and it's not great at all.
It's very slow to charge.
It gets quite hot. I stopped using it mostly for this reason. I can just imagine what that was doing to the halflife of my battery and possibly the other components.
It will often turn the screen on and off when it's fully charged like it's topping up but it thinks it's been removed and put back on the pad.
Hopefully Samsung has gotten it right. I can't imagine them doing it if it has all the same issues as the current aftermarket ones.
If it gets hot. I won't be using wireless charging with an inbuilt battery especially.
At least there is no more cover like on the S5.
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It gets quite hot. I stopped using it mostly for this reason. I can just imagine what that was doing to the halflife of my battery and possibly the other components.
It will often turn the screen on and off when it's fully charged like it's topping up but it thinks it's been removed and put back on the pad.
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Sounds like an issue with either the back, the pad, or Samsung's design. I have 8 of the Nokia DT900 Qi chargers around my house for my Nexus 5 and my girlfriend's Droid Turbo, and they work perfectly fine. Yes, it's slower to charge, but for resting them while watching TV, or when you go to sleep for the night, they're ideal.
The fact that I got 2 of the chargers free, and the other 6 for $40 total from when AT&T blew them out of inventory, I'm quite pleased with it, and it's pretty much a requirement on any phone I buy in the future.
wireless charging is more or less useless and overrated. why? SLOW. if you think you"ll be able to throw it on a pad and get 50% charge in less than 30 mins you're going to be disappointed. if the phone takes (for example) 2 hours to charge via usb cable, it will take at least double that when charging via wireless. And as mentioned, not only that, but a lot of heat generated putting unnecessary heat on the battery - even worse now, is the battery cannot be replaced!
when the hp touchpad tablet came out several years ago, i spent like 70 dollars on the wireless dock and only used it twice.
if i can get a wireless pad for free, cool, but i wont be buying one.
save that money and buy a portable battery charger.. you'll be glad you did.
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* useless for YOU.
I on the other hand use it regularly, and won't buy a phone without the feature.
Is very convenient for overnight charging with no cable fuss. Also have a wireless charger on my desk at work, and it is great to just toss the phone on it.
Now, does anybody have any experience with both charging variants? From what I have read around, it seems like PMA might be faster with less heat. Meanwhile, Qi has more options for chargers. (I have 3 of them, 2 for the house, 1 for the car).
Wow... it's gonna pricey as shiz!!! $60!
$59 is Canadian. It's also a carrier's suggested retail and far from official.
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* useless for YOU.
I on the other hand use it regularly, and won't buy a phone without the feature.
Is very convenient for overnight charging with no cable fuss. Also have a wireless charger on my desk at work, and it is great to just toss the phone on it.
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maybe read this http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
and as i was saying:
Avoid wireless charging
Wireless charging can be incredibly convenient if your phone can do it, but it's not without its disadvantages. The inductive, wireless chargers out there today have this nasty habit of generating a fair bit of waste heat. And while wasted energy is just a bummer in general, that heat will also toast your battery in the process. That's no bueno. It's a little less convenient, but standard plug-in charging is going to keep your battery in better shape, especially if you're some place warm to begin with.
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You don't want to have battery charging constantly either; lithium-ion batteries can get overheated. Luckily for you, your charger is smart enough to help with this, and will cut your phone off for a spell once it's full. And to complicate matters a even further, your battery doesn't particularly like being all the way full either. In fact, your battery will behave the best if you take it off the charge before it hits 100 percent, and leaving it plugged when it's already full is going to cause a little degradation.
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have fun degrading your internal sealed battery. especially with overnight charging for many hours.
this is the reason i find wireless chargers 'useless', maybe without these issues (mostly heat) and if the battery could be easily replaced i wouldn't mind using one. more of a reason that it's kinds of useless. it takes 1 more seconds to plug the phone in if charging overnight. it's not worth the extra wear they put on your battery.
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have fun degrading your internal sealed battery.
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I only keep phones 6-12 months, so I'm not real worried about battery longevity.
But thanks for your concern. Probably valid points in terms of longevity. From a safety standpoint it is fine.
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I like a lot of people use my phone very heavily yet I don't have an opportunity to plug my phone into an AC charger until I return home. A great remedy to the problem is this handly little AA charger.
http://www.igo.com/accessories/powerxtender-charger/invt/ps002640004/
The reason I like it so much is because cheap portable battery packs usually pack under 1000mah of power. Thats not even enough to give you 1 full charge. And the more expensive 2000mah+ packs are often on the large side and well... expensive lol. On the other hand this little bugger is cheap and small enough to sit in my pocket without being a bother. What I find is the best part of it is the fact that you can choose what kind of AA batteries you put into it. I opted for Energizer rechargeable which are rated at 2450mah EACH for a total of 4900mah of power. Thats the equivalent of 3 G2x batteries. Keep 2 more batteries in your backpack/desk/purse thats an additional 4900mah. If that can't get you through the day you have more than just phone issues
Originally bought it for my Vibrant but quickly found it was awkward because the the product doesnt come with a cable adapter. This meant it was hanging and putting much strain on the usb port of the phone. Out of fear of breaking it I stopped using it. However since the G2x charges from the bottom there is absolutely no problem espcially seeing as I bought a 20cm micro usb extension cable so that the charger can sit in my lap or on a table while using the phone.
Just thought I'd share this since we can't get legit replacement batteries yet and even when they do become available they will cost a pretty penny. Got mine from Staples but they can be had on amazon also along with the usb extension able and rechargeable batteries.
This one works very well, too:
Well I'm a new member, so not allowed to post outside link. Therefore goto
Amazon
Duracell Instant USB Charger with Lithium ion battery
Pick the very first one
You don't need to by batteries or an extra charger. You can recharge it via your G2x power supply or any computer.
This was my favorite (coming from g1)
Too bad theres no new version for the micro usb's now..
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-9878...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1304363010&sr=1-16
This can be added on, though it wouldn't be very convenient since its a slide in/out connector
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mini-USB-Micro-USB-Charger-Adapter/dp/B0018L4GOQ/ref=pd_sim_cps_1
hire4blood said:
This one works very well, too:
Well I'm a new member, so not allowed to post outside link. Therefore goto
Amazon
Duracell Instant USB Charger with Lithium ion battery
Pick the very first one
You don't need to by batteries or an extra charger. You can recharge it via your G2x power supply or any computer.
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I almost bought one of those until I saw how low the capacity on it is. Looks tiny though which is nice.
J&R has Veho 5Ah external battery for $35 and I have 2 of them.
Just use regular microUSB cable to charge the phone and leave the original cable secure.
I'm thinking about getting the i-up 13,200mAh pack.
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I almost bought one of those until I saw how low the capacity on it is. Looks tiny though which is nice.
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They have a bigger version for 32$ as well. The 22$ version gives me a full charge from around 30%.
Just received my Pebble XT 5000mah pack. Won't be able to put it through its paces till next tuesday. Upon first impression, i think im in love with this thing already. its small enough to sit in pocket without having much presence. extremely lightweight. and the cord is long enough to be able to have the charger in your pocket and phone in hand (thank you lg for putting the usb port at the bottom). All info I have read indicated that it really does output 5000mAh of power so even a heavy user such as myself will have no problem getting through a full day of use.
Just wondering how everyone's batterys are working out for them?
Also how many full charges did you get?
Also any likes or dislikes of product they decided to buy?
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That looks like something that might be good out camping or something where you needed to charge your phone without touching it. But I would figure actually picking it up and putting that much weight on he usb port a very bad idea... This should come with a extension cord to charge while using, even texting or something would be pretty difficult to hold both...
motorola p793
Check this site for power packs, all kinds 5000mah for around $20
http://www.tvc-mall.com/details/660...r-Cell-Phone-Tablet-PC-PSP-etc-IPHONE-4-7095/
Micro usb 1900mah
http://www.tvc-mall.com/details/Por...AZR2-V8-HTC-BlackBerry-and-etc-Black-MCH-615/
ImaxPower IMP500 (5000mAh) External Battery
I've used an IMP500 Rechargeable (5000mAh) external battery pack for a few years with great sucess. They make them as large as 11000mAh (or more?) and even have solar-rechargeable options. Just take a look at New Trent or other similar products on Amazon or eBay.
The best part about the IMP series is that they have multiple adapters for iPhones, mini/micro USB, PSP, DS, and other devices so you can charge your phone and anything else you might be carrying around with you.
Link to NewTrent for info on models
I'd recommend buying elsewhere because you can find them for 30-50%+ off.
Note: t-mobile galaxy s2 battery is the same battery as the skyrocket.
Update: You can purchase this for $42.26 shipped free from Amazon. Thanks to propsizzle
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung--CGPK...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1321206635&sr=1-1
If you want to buy it from samsung:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-CGPK004GSTA
COUPON CODE: samsung#1 ($7.50 off)
Shipping is $3.95
When you buy any Galaxy (or any phone) in Korea, they all come with 2 batteries and a external charger. And all the Galaxys come with external charging case and adapter like this one. It is unfortunate that you have to buy this separately, but I highly recommend getting this after using this method of charging for a year when I lived in Korea.
Let the second battery charge, swap it in the morning (they give you a few seconds to do a battery swap without having to reboot the phone if you have the usb cable connected). It is not a well known feature of the phone because Mr. Jobs has got us so accustomed to chaining ourselves unnecessarily while we wait for our phones to charge but it is a very cool and useful feature. It will make your life better in so many ways, and possibly extend the battery life and the life of the battery because you will always be doing a deep cycle charge. Plus. you will have a spare battery and a case to carry it in for long trips!
As you can tell, I love this thing.
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Note: I'm making an assumption that the t-mobile galaxy s2 battery is the same battery as the skyrocket. I believe it is after looking at the model number of the battery.
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The Skyrocket battery has NFC. Are you sure the T-Mobile battery does also?
CZ Eddie said:
The Skyrocket battery has NFC. Are you sure the T-Mobile battery does also?
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Yes. Battery says Near Field Communication.
EB-L1D7IBA
My skyrocket battery model number is the same. My girlfriend is visiting me from Korea, and she's buying me a Galaxy SII LTE battery EB-L1D7IBK because it is cheaper there. I'm hoping it works. The polarity, voltage, size, capacity seems to be the same.
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Yes. Battery says Near Field Communication.
EB-L1D7IBA
My skyrocket battery model number is the same. My girlfriend is visiting me from Korea, and she's buying me a Galaxy SII LTE battery EB-L1D7IBK because it is cheaper there. I'm hoping it works. The polarity, voltage, size, capacity seems to be the same.
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Good info, thanks!
Looks like Samsung themselves say the battery works in both models:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-L1D7IBABSTD
No 2000mah batteries?
Amazon has it for $42.26, prime eligible.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung--CGPK..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1321197686&sr=1-1
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Amazon has it for $42.26, prime eligible.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung--CGPK..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1321197686&sr=1-1
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Even sweeter. Kinda feel foolish now for making my gf go to the Samsung Anycall A/S Store in Korea, pick up the battery and charging case for $27. then buying myself a oem adapter+microusb for $4.35 on ebay. Although I am still getting it for ~$31 and a adapter+microusb is a tiny bit better than a travel charger, It is still to be determined whether the Korean battery going to work because there is a soft restriction.
Anyway, this is a solid purchase and it is worth the extra $3 than buying just a oem battery alone.
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No 2000mah batteries?
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Unless Samsung releases one, which they haven't, I wouldn't bother with it. Usually generic batteries might hold the extra juice initially, but the life of the battery tends to be unreliable.
Lucky Me...
I just snagged one of these off that Amazon link (through DayDeal) for $34.99 plus shipping. Amazon.com showed only one in stock through daydeal when I ordered. Thanks for the heads-up!
Lucidmike said:
Note: t-mobile galaxy s2 battery is the same battery as the skyrocket.
Update: You can purchase this for $42.26 shipped free from Amazon. Thanks to propsizzle
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung--CGPK...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1321206635&sr=1-1
If you want to buy it from samsung:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-CGPK004GSTA
COUPON CODE: samsung#1 ($7.50 off)
Shipping is $3.95
When you buy any Galaxy (or any phone) in Korea, they all come with 2 batteries and a external charger. And all the Galaxys come with external charging case and adapter like this one. It is unfortunate that you have to buy this separately, but I highly recommend getting this after using this method of charging for a year when I lived in Korea.
Let the second battery charge, swap it in the morning (they give you a few seconds to do a battery swap without having to reboot the phone if you have the usb cable connected). It is not a well known feature of the phone because Mr. Jobs has got us so accustomed to chaining ourselves unnecessarily while we wait for our phones to charge but it is a very cool and useful feature. It will make your life better in so many ways, and possibly extend the battery life and the life of the battery because you will always be doing a deep cycle charge. Plus. you will have a spare battery and a case to carry it in for long trips!
As you can tell, I love this thing.
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just bought one, thanks!
i got 2 of those, one for home, and another for the office
here's my review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349656
i got it from ebay only for $40 shipping included
Lucidmike said:
Note: t-mobile galaxy s2 battery is the same battery as the skyrocket.
Update: You can purchase this for $42.26 shipped free from Amazon. Thanks to propsizzle
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung--CGPK...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1321206635&sr=1-1
If you want to buy it from samsung:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-CGPK004GSTA
COUPON CODE: samsung#1 ($7.50 off)
Shipping is $3.95
When you buy any Galaxy (or any phone) in Korea, they all come with 2 batteries and a external charger. And all the Galaxys come with external charging case and adapter like this one. It is unfortunate that you have to buy this separately, but I highly recommend getting this after using this method of charging for a year when I lived in Korea.
Let the second battery charge, swap it in the morning (they give you a few seconds to do a battery swap without having to reboot the phone if you have the usb cable connected). It is not a well known feature of the phone because Mr. Jobs has got us so accustomed to chaining ourselves unnecessarily while we wait for our phones to charge but it is a very cool and useful feature. It will make your life better in so many ways, and possibly extend the battery life and the life of the battery because you will always be doing a deep cycle charge. Plus. you will have a spare battery and a case to carry it in for long trips!
As you can tell, I love this thing.
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AllGamer said:
i got 2 of those, one for home, and another for the office
here's my review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349656
i got it from ebay only for $40 shipping included
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I was going to ask if it also charged your phone but your review answered that for me. What a shame that they didn't include that one extra little piece of hardware. Not having it is kind of a deal breaker for me.
i got mine and love it. I like the fact that i dont have to plug the cable into my phone to charge. I go through a battery in a few hours so all of that plugging/unplugging makes me nervous (like the mini usb days when the mini usb ports breaking was more common then not)
this way i can charge my batteries without plugging into my phone, and the only time i will need to plug into my phone is in my car..
ordering another one for home now(this one is at my office)
2 spare batteries will come in handy also since i goto a lot of day/weekend long music festivals where i wont get access to chargers.
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ordering another one now, price dropped and is now $36.18 on amazon!
OEM battery with a charging dock for $39.94
Found this and paid for it with Google checkout- discountcell (dot) com/cellular/p/ET-CGPK004GSTA -I cant post links just yet so remove the (dot) and put in the . for the direct link.
Samsung Original Battery Charger with Stand ET-CGPK004GSTA Details:
The battery charging station is the perfect way to charge your battery and explore the capabilities of your phone. While your spare battery charges your phone can sit snugly in the stand at an optimal viewing angle for watching a movie or reading the news.
Features:
Rapidly charges your spare battery giving you unlimited time to talk, text or email
Kickstand allows you to display your phone in a comfortable reading or viewing angle
LED display light lets your know that your battery is charging
Compact design makes it convenient to charge your spare battery at home or in the office
Package Contents:
Battery Charger
1850mAH Standard Battery
Wall Charger
Samsung Original Accessory
Part Number: ET-CGPK004GSTA
Warranty: 1 Year
Manufacturer: Samsung
Is it safe to leave a spare battery on the charger for days after its fully charged? will it ruin the battery ? or when the light turns green does it turn off?
Wondering if i should worry about leaving my spare in the charger over long (3 or 4 day) weekends etc or if i should take it out.
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Is it safe to leave a spare battery on the charger for days after its fully charged? will it ruin the battery ? or when the light turns green does it turn off?
Wondering if i should worry about leaving my spare in the charger over long (3 or 4 day) weekends etc or if i should take it out.
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I have done it and nothing is wrong so far. It has an inteligent charging system so it stops when it reaches full capacity.
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I just got myself a Nokia DT-900 Wireless charger (Got it at a clearance at the Nokia store) for use with my Nexus 5 and my Nexus 7.
I charged the nexus 5 with it now. While it charges perfectly, even with a case on, the back of the phone gets a little warm. Not hot, just warm. I was wondering if this is any cause for concern, or if this is normal. Have not tried with my nexus 7 though.
Does the nexus 5/7 work perfectly with the Nokia wireless charger, or is it Incompatibility that is causing the phone to warm up a little?
srivas95 said:
I just got myself a Nokia DT-900 Wireless charger (Got it at a clearance at the Nokia store) for use with my Nexus 5 and my Nexus 7.
I charged the nexus 5 with it now. While it charges perfectly, even with a case on, the back of the phone gets a little warm. Not hot, just warm. I was wondering if this is any cause for concern, or if this is normal. Have not tried with my nexus 7 though.
Does the nexus 5/7 work perfectly with the Nokia wireless charger, or is it Incompatibility that is causing the phone to warm up a little?
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I noticed the same thing with a LG Qi charger. This is my first wireless charger and I believe that it's normal.
Primokorn said:
I noticed the same thing with a LG Qi charger. This is my first wireless charger and I believe that it's normal.
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If the same thing happens with the Official LG Nexus charger, then it must be normal. Thanks!
srivas95 said:
If the same thing happens with the Official LG Nexus charger, then it must be normal. Thanks!
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It's actually this one: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-WCP-300-Wireless-Charging/dp/B00C6VP03I
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It's actually this one: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-WCP-300-Wireless-Charging/dp/B00C6VP03I
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As it's an LG, I doubt it's any different from the Nexus one. Both have the same specs. Have emailed Google regarding this, their reply was the standard 'We do not recommend using Non-Nexus chargers for Nexus devices'. I told them all QI chargers were actually supposed to work, and am awaiting their reply. Will follow up on this.
i get worried with how wireless charging heats up my phone, so i try to avoid it
Enddo said:
i get worried with how wireless charging heats up my phone, so i try to avoid it
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I bought a QI wireless charger when I purchased the phone based on excellent reviews on Amazon. I've since stopped using it just because of random overheating and generally the phone was warmer than when charging via USB. It was a feeling that overtime my phone would suffer.
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3DSammy said:
I bought a QI wireless charger when I purchased the phone based on excellent reviews on Amazon. I've since stopped using it just because of random overheating and generally the phone was warmer than when charging via USB. It was a feeling that overtime my phone would suffer.
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my thoughts exactly
Wireless charging, by its very nature, generates a small amount of heat. It is perfectly normal for your phone to get a bit warm whenever you're charging via any means, but especially when wireless charging. The key is the phrase "a bit warm." It should never be hot to the touch, just warm. The phone was designed to handle this, and there will be no adverse effects. In fact, the heat generated is much less than is generated by the CPU during heavy use (such as during a graphic intensive game).
I regularly use my phone with the official nexus charger (in my car), the Nokia DT-910 (the stand-up version of the DT-900 -- my main overnight charger), and the Samsung S-Charger Pad (at work). All are perfectly compatible with the N5. In fact, the only name-brand charger I'd steer clear of is the Tylt Vu, because there have been numerous incidents of overheating with that charger (i.e., the phone gets very hot to the touch).
3DSammy said:
I bought a QI wireless charger when I purchased the phone based on excellent reviews on Amazon. I've since stopped using it just because of random overheating and generally the phone was warmer than when charging via USB. It was a feeling that overtime my phone would suffer.
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Sent google a screenshot of my Battery info and temp while it was at max temp, they said there are no issues with it
jt3 said:
Wireless charging, by its very nature, generates a small amount of heat. It is perfectly normal for your phone to get a bit warm whenever you're charging via any means, but especially when wireless charging. The key is the phrase "a bit warm." It should never be hot to the touch, just warm.
I regularly use my phone with the official nexus charger (in my car), the Nokia DT-910 (the stand-up version of the DT-900, and my main overnight charger), and the Samsung S-Charger Pad (at work). All are perfectly compatible with the N5. In fact, the only name-brand charger I'd steer clear of is the Tylt Vu, because there have been numerous incidents of overheating with that charger (i.e., the phone gets very hot to the touch).
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Yep, I read online that the Tylt Vu has some issues.
I spoke to Google about the Nokia charger, and they said the temp of the phone is normal. They did warn me that the Nokia does not cut charging automatically when it gets to 100%, and that I should Take it off manually
Using a case increases the distance between the phone and coil which can cause the phone to heat up even more. Even wired charging heats the battery so some extra warmth from the 25% lost energy seems normal.
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Using a case increases the distance between the phone and coil which can cause the phone to heat up even more. Even wired charging heats the battery so some extra warmth from the 25% lost energy seems normal.
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Okay, Maybe I should remove the case and try charging it
jt3 said:
Wireless charging, by its very nature, generates a small amount of heat. It is perfectly normal for your phone to get a bit warm whenever you're charging via any means, but especially when wireless charging. The key is the phrase "a bit warm." It should never be hot to the touch, just warm. The phone was designed to handle this, and there will be no adverse effects. In fact, the heat generated is much less than is generated by the CPU during heavy use (such as during a graphic intensive game).
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Lots of people who use wireless chargers say this but I am still skeptical. I would like to see battery capacity tests from two of the same devices. One that was only charged with wireless charging and the other only charged via USB.
My money says the wireless charged device will have significantly less battery capacity than the usb charged device after 1-2 years of use.
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Lots of people who use wireless chargers say this but I am still skeptical. I would like to see battery capacity tests from two of the same devices. One that was only charged with wireless charging and the other only charged via USB.
My money says the wireless charged device will have significantly less battery capacity than the usb charged device after 1-2 years of use.
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Yes, But seeing as most of us use the phone for only 1-2 years, I personally don't see a difference. Maybe the battery will lose capacity over time, but that's going to happen anyway. This will maybe speed up the process by about 20%.
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My money says the wireless charged device will have significantly less battery capacity than the usb charged device after 1-2 years of use.
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That may be true, but that argument lies on shaky ground, since there are a lot of other ways you can (theoretically) reduce battery life as well. In theory, not allowing the battery to drain completely during each charge cycle, or not removing the phone from the charger the instant it's fully charged can reduce battery life, yet nobody charges their phone that way. There's also the counter-argument that plugging the charging cable in every single day can prematurely wear out, or break, the (very fragile) USB connector on the phone, which would result in the inability to charge at all. (I went through SOOO many Galaxy Nexuses... Nexes? Nexii? Whatever... because of that issue.)
The point is that sometimes, convenience takes priority over the possibility of slightly reduced battery life, and it's hard to argue against the convenience of wireless charging.
Plus, as Srivas95 stated, most of us will move on to the next device long before any such battery degradation becomes an issue.
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That may be true, but that argument lies on shaky ground, since there are a lot of other ways you can (theoretically) reduce battery life as well. In theory, not allowing the battery to drain completely during each charge cycle, or not removing the phone from the charger the instant it's fully charged can reduce battery life, yet nobody charges their phone that way. There's also the counter-argument that plugging the charging cable in every single day can prematurely wear out, or break, the (very fragile) USB connector on the phone, which would result in the inability to charge at all. (I went through SOOO many Galaxy Nexuses... Nexes? Nexii? Whatever... because of that issue.)
The point is that sometimes, convenience takes priority over the possibility of slightly reduced battery life, and it's hard to argue against the convenience of wireless charging.
Plus, as Srivas95 stated, most of us will move on to the next device long before any such battery degradation becomes an issue.
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which is fine. i just plan on using my N5 longer than a couple years and will do what i can to keep it as healthy as possible
Enddo said:
which is fine. i just plan on using my N5 longer than a couple years and will do what i can to keep it as healthy as possible
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Whatever works for you man. To each his own
joneytatya said:
Have you been using the official nexus charger? Mine used to heat the phone earlier before I bought this one from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Wireless-Charger-Smartphones-Tablets/dp/B00GN1YKBU
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I tried with my friend's Official Nexus Charger, Phone still got a little warm. It's okay though, Now that Google have confirmed it with me. No issues
jt3 said:
That may be true, but that argument lies on shaky ground, since there are a lot of other ways you can (theoretically) reduce battery life as well. In theory, not allowing the battery to drain completely during each charge cycle, or not removing the phone from the charger the instant it's fully charged can reduce battery life, yet nobody charges their phone that way. There's also the counter-argument that plugging the charging cable in every single day can prematurely wear out, or break, the (very fragile) USB connector on the phone, which would result in the inability to charge at all. (I went through SOOO many Galaxy Nexuses... Nexes? Nexii? Whatever... because of that issue.)
The point is that sometimes, convenience takes priority over the possibility of slightly reduced battery life, and it's hard to argue against the convenience of wireless charging.
Plus, as Srivas95 stated, most of us will move on to the next device long before any such battery degradation becomes an issue.
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What you say is right, my Nexus 5 has been with me for just 4 months and I can already see that the jack is kind of loose. That is one of the reasons I got a wireless charger in the first place.
A quick overview for those who might be thinking about the OEM Samsung wireless charging replacement back cover for the Note 4. I also get into a bit of risk vs cost analysis towards the end.
I have compared both the Qi version and the Powermat version. This information applies to both. They are physically identical. The only difference is which charging standard they support.
Model EP-CN910IBU
Output 5.0v 800mA
S/N RCIFA
MSIP-REM-SEC-EP-EP-CN910IWK
Made in Vietnam
MSRP $39
Be aware these replacement covers add thickness to the handset.
Stock handset (non charging cover) plus glass screen protector: 0.360"
Handset plus EP-CN910IBU wireless charging cover plus glass screen protector, 0.425"
The charging cover adds a net thickness of 0.065." While this doesn't sound like much, it is enough to prevent most cases / enclosures from fitting over the charging cover.
These measurements are taken with a precision micrometer (certified to an accuracy of +/- 0.002")
As a common reference, an average US $0.25 quarter measures 0.065."
Imagine wedging a layer of quarters in between your phone and your case. Chances are it won't fit. Do you really want to use an $800 device with no case? The only case option would be a dimensionally forgiving non rigid rubber bumper.
When used with a Duracell powermat, the charging works as expected, albeit at the slow 800mA charging speed. The sensitivity of proper placement of the phone, centered on the powermat is still an issue. Even a small 0.25" movement out of center will stop charging.
Here are some simple calculations that allow us to directly compare *maximum* charging speeds using the basic electrical formula of Volts x Amps = Watts
Standard Wall charger 5V x 2A = 10W
Samsung adaptive fast charger 9V x 1.67A = 15.03W
Samsung wireless charging cover 5V x 0.8A = 4W
This comparison shows the wireless back covers charge at a rate of that is 60% slower than a standard wall charger and 74% slower than the adaptive fast charger that shipped with our Note 4 devices. In my opinion, this wireless setup is only practical for overnight use and possibly as a trickle charger in an office / desktop environment. It is not practical for use as a primary daytime charging system during frequent and heavy use of the handset.
The cover was $39, the powermat was $50 for a combined cost of $90. Car charging cradles are presumably another $50-$70. As a completely wireless charging solution, this costs about $200 and takes 3-4 times longer to charge.
I purchased this setup as a safeguard against damage to the usb port form a lifetime of plugging in charging cords. I have experienced usb port damage / degradation on previous devices.
Conclusion:
Consider that most of us carry an insurance policy through our provider for about $7 / month ($168 spread out over 2 years.) If you ever use the insurance due to damage, theft or loss, we pay a $200 deductible. Consider that most of us will upgrade to a newer handset within 2 years. This gives us a combined contractual insurance cost of roughly $370 across the 2 year lifespan of the device, and only if you end up replacing the device for *any* reason, not just usb port damage. Otherwise you pay only the ~$170 over 2 years.
The cost of "physical" insurance by way of wireless charging and a rubber bumper case is well over $200 all at the time of equipment purchase.
In my opinion, this high cost and slow speed of wireless charging is not sensible. I will be returning the equipment and returning to corded charging and my favorite case. I will keep the contractual insurance thought At&t. This risk vs cost analysis with corded charging is acceptable to me.
Thank you for your thorough review. I just purchased the official case yesterday from Samsung with a 50% discount coupon, after which, I started researching reviews and cases for it and found that many of the cases I was contemplating on purchasing were no longer fitting. I previously owned the Note 2 with a stick-on qi wireless coil and it worked great so I was leaning towards the same solution for the Note 4 but reading reviews about them seemed to point that the fact that it interferes with the NFC module. I use SoftCard (formerly ISIS) on a daily basis so this leads me to use the OEM back.
el_chiefo said:
Thank you for your thorough review. I just purchased the official case yesterday from Samsung with a 50% discount coupon, after which, I started researching reviews and cases for it and found that many of the cases I was contemplating on purchasing were no longer fitting. I previously owned the Note 2 with a stick-on qi wireless coil and it worked great so I was leaning towards the same solution for the Note 4 but reading reviews about them seemed to point that the fact that it interferes with the NFC module. I use SoftCard (formerly ISIS) on a daily basis so this leads me to use the OEM back.
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What's the 50off coupon?
h3ck said:
What's the 50off coupon?
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When you register your note 4 with Samsung (and the samsung account), you should be emailed a coupon for 50% of of items $50 or less from their website
this is a silly "review" and an even sillier analysis.
It completely ignores the fact that all your data is on the device and if you ever have to replace it its a huge pain to back it up and restore it.
It also completely ignores how fragile the device is without a case on it.
It ignores the problem of fumbling around trying to find the correct way to insert the usb cable into the microusb slot (and if you insert the wrong way the tab can snap off) in the dark and trying to mount it on a car charger when you want to just get in the car and drive. it ignores the fact that wires running everywhere make a mess.
I have an iblason armorbox case and the samsung wireless back. Case fits perfectly, when i want to charge i just throw it on the charger. phone doesnt get below 90% throughout the day. I have an ebay 6000mah wireless charger in my bag, a wireless pad in my bedroom in a box and a wireless car charger. When i get home i literally throw the phone into the box and its charging instantly. i put the phone on my car cradle and it charges instantly. I put the phone with a rubberband in my bag attached to the wireless charger and it keeps charging while in my bag. no wires required. once a week i connect the usb cable from the 6000mah portable charger to a computer and leave it. overnight it gets topped up and ready to use for the next week. ive dropped the phone twice already (bumped it off a table and it fell from a placement on top of the car to concrete) with no issues. i dont have any silly insurance and the phone is zero hassle. i can use it in the rain, snow, dust, mud etc without worrying. the phone is always at 100% (never gets below 90%) and i dont need to worry about running out of battery.
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this is a silly "review" and an even sillier analysis.
It completely ignores the fact that all your data is on the device and if you ever have to replace it its a huge pain to back it up and restore it.
It also completely ignores how fragile the device is without a case on it.
It ignores the problem of fumbling around trying to find the correct way to insert the usb cable into the microusb slot (and if you insert the wrong way the tab can snap off) in the dark and trying to mount it on a car charger when you want to just get in the car and drive. it ignores the fact that wires running everywhere make a mess.
I have an iblason armorbox case and the samsung wireless back. Case fits perfectly, when i want to charge i just throw it on the charger. phone doesnt get below 90% throughout the day. I have an ebay 6000mah wireless charger in my bag, a wireless pad in my bedroom in a box and a wireless car charger. When i get home i literally throw the phone into the box and its charging instantly. i put the phone on my car cradle and it charges instantly. I put the phone with a rubberband in my bag attached to the wireless charger and it keeps charging while in my bag. no wires required. once a week i connect the usb cable from the 6000mah portable charger to a computer and leave it. overnight it gets topped up and ready to use for the next week. ive dropped the phone twice already (bumped it off a table and it fell from a placement on top of the car to concrete) with no issues. i dont have any silly insurance and the phone is zero hassle. i can use it in the rain, snow, dust, mud etc without worrying. the phone is always at 100% (never gets below 90%) and i dont need to worry about running out of battery.
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Thank you for your opinion. I will keep mine.
I backup on a regular basis and restoring is easy.
I agree the device is fragile without a case.
I don't want the armorbox or otterbox or any other case that significantly increases the dimensions and bulk of the handset.
I don't charge in the car because I have short drive times.
I don't care for having to box or bag my phone throughout the day.
My job is not at a desk so I can't let the phone sit on a charging pad while at work.
I didn't want to spend hundreds of dollars on three or four wireless chargers to be distributed throughout my daily locations.
Wireless charging isn't mainstream enough yet to go completely wireless across all devices within reasonable costs. Other devices still require the cord mess. I am an "all in" or nothing sort of person.
The main reason for keeping the insurance is replacement in case of theft. Any new electronics are theft targets. I have had 2 phones stolen in the past. In one instance, I located the thief, removed a few teeth and repossessed my phone. The other went offline as soon as it was stolen and was untraceable. The insurance saved me from buying a new $600 handset out of cash.
Regardless of either of our subjective opinions, I mainly wrote the review to post the facts and figures of physical size and power output limitations. I will wait for resonant charging technology to be released and re-evaluate the cost benefit at that time. My analysis and opinions are there simply to get people to think about the pros and cons.
Wireless charging is way overrated imo. It charges much slower and you still need to have a cord for the charger itself (obviously). It literally takes almost the same amount of time to plug in the USB cord as it does to find the sweet spot of a wireless charger. At this point it's simply a novelty imo. Nothing more.
Each to their own. Any good 3 coil charge base has an enormous sweet spot, so hunting for position is not an issue at all.
If you get calls at night a lot (for work or other), the wireless charging is a god send. Trying to plug it in multiple times in the dark is ridiculous.
Now, when we have reversible connectors, my opinion might change.
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Each to their own. Any good 3 coil charge base has an enormous sweet spot, so hunting for position is not an issue at all.
If you get calls at night a lot (for work or other), the wireless charging is a god send. Trying to plug it in multiple times in the dark is ridiculous.
Now, when we have reversible connectors, my opinion might change.
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I hear you man, I'm not saying it's totally worthless, but it's a very niche product imo. Like you have pointed out, it serves its purpose for some people. But I think for the average Joe, plugging in is just fine.
I do see where you are coming from however.
I have been reading about wireless charging for a couple years and never really pursued it on my Note 2 because I was with Verizon and they naturally removed it as they typically screw up phones somehow. I saw so many people that loved it and would go to great lengths to enable it. I decided after switching to T Mobile a couple weeks ago that I would give it a shot. I bought the OEM back and a cheap qi charger off of eBay and was disappointed with having to adjust my phone on the charger to hit the sweet spot. I decided to buy a Tylt charger and wow what a difference! I can literally place the phone on the charger in my case with no concern of finding a sweet spot because the whole charger is the sweet spot. It even works great through my wifes thick leather case. I love it and I find the rate of charge to be at least equal to a standard charger ( not fast charge) and that's great. I watched some netflix last night with my phone on the tylt (45 degrees)and it actually charged while streaming. I haven't personally plugged a phone in for more than 2 years since I just swap batteries out of my Samsung spare battery charger but now when I'm working or surfing at night my phone is always charging wirelessly and I never wake up with a phone that's less than 100%.
Even though it subjectively feels like wireless is as fast as a standard wall charger, it is not possible.
Manufacturers specification for wireless chargering is universally 800mA, or 0.8A.
Check my math in the first post. At 4W wireless chargers are less than half the speed of of a standard 10W wall charger.
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Hey guys, so I'm looking for a case that fits the added bulk of the OEM QI back. Any recommendations? I'm looking at the i-blason case but open to any other suggestions.
Thanks
syngiun said:
The cost of "physical" insurance by way of wireless charging and a rubber bumper case is well over $200 all at the time of equipment purchase.
In my opinion, this high cost and slow speed of wireless charging is not sensible. I will be returning the equipment and returning to corded charging and my favorite case. I will keep the contractual insurance thought At&t. This risk vs cost analysis with corded charging is acceptable to me.
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"well over $200"? The qi charging back is $40. I got a 3 pack of Qi chargers for $60 (nokia, they come in a bunch of colors) so I could have one by my bed, desk at home, and desk at work. Numerous others are available for $10-$25 on ebay and other retailers. I'll happily pay $100 (qi back + 3 docks) or so to never touch the USB cable, fumble with a cable end in the dark, or try the cable backwards. When charging is easy you don't care about charging speed as much. 0.5 seconds to dock or undock (without even looking) will spoil you.
While I have multiple devices, I end up keeping my devices for 3-4 years with secondary uses. So even if I do get something new within 2 years I don't want the secondary device to die just becuase of a horribly designed charging cable that makes my first nokia dumb phone from the 90s look awesome. Imagine that after almost 20 years of USB might someday actually be reversible, maybe in 2015.
Never understood why the audio jack on today's phones is robust, easy to use, and impossible to get backwards. You could use it 10 times a day for a decade, yet most rarely use it. Nokia used to use a similar connector for charging, I could manage to plug it in with my eyes closed an one hand behind my back. To charge a phone daily you end up with a tiny fragile usb connectors that's easy to get backwards and difficult to get in correctly on the first try without careful examination. Already lost one phone to usb, I'm trying to avoid losing a second.
Both the microusb connector and expoxied in batteries reak of planned obsolence to me. Thankfully the note 4 can minimize both problems.
Oh, one last thing. The Qi Chargers do lose some efficiency. So if you get a charger that's USB powered you end up with a poor charging speeds. So I'd get one of the ones that come with their own wall wart. I use the nokia DT-900 (which comes with it's own wall wart) with my nexus 5 and it charges pretty quickly.
el_chiefo said:
Hey guys, so I'm looking for a case that fits the added bulk of the OEM QI back. Any recommendations? I'm looking at the i-blason case but open to any other suggestions.
Thanks
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I purchased the Caseology Carbon Fiber case to see if I'd have any luck with the OEM charging back....and it worked! I posted pictures here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57275699#post57275699
Product here:
http://www.amazon.com/Caseology-Samsung-Absorbent-T-mobile-Unlocked/dp/B00N4DIM0A
I have the wireless charging S view cover in combination with the S5 charging dock. I agree with what you are saying. The charging is really slow. Especially for such a high capacity battery used in the Note 4. I would not buy this setup again.
Does the qi back protect the camera?
Yes the qi back protects the camera lens in terms of keeping the lens from scratching on surfaces when you set the phone down. The added thickness casues the back cover to extend just past the lens.
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Yes the qi back protects the camera lens in terms of keeping the lens from scratching on surfaces when you set the phone down. The added thickness casues the back cover to extend just past the lens.
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Actually, Ive found that it does not extend past the camera lens, it makes the camera lens functionally flush with the back. Im a little disappointed in this and sort of wish it was "slightly" thicker. If it was, i think i would end up going caseless. I may end up doing what the OP described and going with the regular plugin. The batter last so long, i dont really plug it in except right before bed, and even then, i dont even need to charge it overnight anymore....
I have one laying around (bought it out of curiosity for other phones).
I know they charge slow.
But can they do any harm to Note 9?
Maybe slow = less heat = less impact on battery life?
I have a cheap off-brand slow-charging pad that heats up like a troop if I don't lay a toothpick or two between the phone and the pad to air it out. Other than the heat, if it works, it works.
i bought a Baseus whirlwind Desktop wireless charger (not so expensive abt $30) it has built in fan. connected the original fast charger and it charges phone at a above medium speed. i would recommend u to use similar or a better branded product as it may effect your battery and the phones components in the long run.
http://www.baseus.com/product-235.html
may be or may be not. i used anker wireless charger for 10 days, and now spen dies. its remote function is not working. i am not confirm what caused this but it is the only change i made in 8 months.
yes it CAN
doesnt mean it will. working for a while doesnt mean it always will
stay away from those. 1000 dollar phone protect it. protect ur home from fires. theres a reason for price diff. go quality
Charging your device wirelessly will generate allot of regardless if your charger is cheap or expensive. As Wireless charging causes our devices to heat up very quickly not matter what. Which is why certain wireless chargers have fans built into them to disperse the heat.
If it's not heating up should be fine.
bat0nas said:
I have one laying around (bought it out of curiosity for other phones).
I know they charge slow.
But can they do any harm to Note 9?
Maybe slow = less heat = less impact on battery life?
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I have the note9, I've tried using the galaxy (brand new) chargers (twice) which comes with the note9. It would not charge my phone at all, I'm using my fast charger from my old LG phone, I also brought an extra LG fast charger for my note9. It works, no problems. I hope this helps.