Hello all,
I'm new to the m8 and Verizon, but not rooting and s-off. I own a Sprint m7 that is rooted and s-off running numerous custom ROMs and I'm wondering is there a big difference between the two? Let me explain why I ask. Where I'm from there isn't a Verizon or Sprint so I don't deal with the bloat and special doodads carrier branded devices impose, I just root and remove unwanted junk. With this new m8 it seems more complicated to me about setting up if I install a custom ROM. I didn't have to worry about new ROMs on the m7 besides permanently bypassing HFA and other bloat, restored my titanium backup and went from there.
Are there any special things I have to do, like activation from initial setup or will it be like my m7, where I didn't need to worry since my carriers info was programmed into the and it stuck without reprogramming carrier settings?
Will I have to call Verizon and blow my cover of being rooted and s-off, and why does Verizon have control over unlocking boot loader?
Thank for your time, I'm pretty sure I'll have more questions later.
v1ral said:
Hello all,
I'm new to the m8 and Verizon, but not rooting and s-off. I own a Sprint m7 that is rooted and s-off running numerous custom ROMs and I'm wondering is there a big difference between the two? Let me explain why I ask. Where I'm from there isn't a Verizon or Sprint so I don't deal with the bloat and special doodads carrier branded devices impose, I just root and remove unwanted junk. With this new m8 it seems more complicated to me about setting up if I install a custom ROM. I didn't have to worry about new ROMs on the m7 besides permanently bypassing HFA and other bloat, restored my titanium backup and went from there.
Are there any special things I have to do, like activation from initial setup or will it be like my m7, where I didn't need to worry since my carriers info was programmed into the and it stuck without reprogramming carrier settings?
Will I have to call Verizon and blow my cover of being rooted and s-off, and why does Verizon have control over unlocking boot loader?
Thank for your time, I'm pretty sure I'll have more questions later.
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Try an run the sunshine app for s-off. I have never had any carrier issues on Vzw from doing s-off...I did when on sprint.
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I know this question may sound stupid but will a phone being unlocked have any effect on rooting? Like will it make it more likely to brick or make the process more complicated? I have an at&t HTC one x unlocked on T-Mobile.
No but since it was originally on AT&T you'll have to use the root method for AT&T.
Sent from my evita
I am strongly considering getting the Verizon m8 today, but before I do there is one thing I need to clarify:
If I get this phone today is flashing a custom recovery/ROM possible?
I am asking this because before I got my current phone (Verizon S4) I checked on the forums and saw all the talk about custom recoveries and custom ROMs and got all excited and bought the phone. When I got the phone however I became aware that all of this was only possible up until some OTA update after which custom recoveries became impossible, and since I had a newest phone straight from verizon withg the latest updates I could not do any of those things.
So, can someone confirm that to the best of the publics knowledge all this is still possible? This will make or break my decision to get the phone.
Thanks
P.S. if there anything else that you think I should know, like stuff you wished someone told you before you got the phone, please dont hesitate to mention those things as well.
Yes this phone is able to be unlocked (soff) and load a custom recovery. There are two methods one is free Firewater and the other is $25 sunshine if the Free option fails to work for you for some reason.
i recently bought the m8 from verizon, upon purchase it was activated with a verizon simcard and after a few days i went overseas. now i am using it outside of the US with a non verizon simcard. i have a few issues with it:
1. cant use the phone as a wireless hot spot or tether its internet connection via USB-error message saying that i have a non verizon sim installed
2. cant get rid of all the verizon bloatware or any other bloatware
3. cant root - i came from galaxy s2 which was the easiest thing to root ever
4. every time i reboot the phone it alerts me that i inserted a non verizon simcard (is there any chance that the phone will lock up because of that??)
5. what is s-off?????
thank you very much for any help!!
In order to gain perm root use sunshine to unlock bootloader and then install custom recovery. Then flash SU. After that you can edit the default.XML to make necessary changes or you could flash a ROM with all the needed hacks installed. Already. Sunshine will cost 25 bucks but well worth the investment. There are a tin of discussions here on how to achieve the results you are trying to attain as well as step by step instructions.
udiperets said:
i recently bought the m8 from verizon, upon purchase it was activated with a verizon simcard and after a few days i went overseas. now i am using it outside of the US with a non verizon simcard. i have a few issues with it:
1. cant use the phone as a wireless hot spot or tether its internet connection via USB-error message saying that i have a non verizon sim installed
2. cant get rid of all the verizon bloatware or any other bloatware
3. cant root - i came from galaxy s2 which was the easiest thing to root ever
4. every time i reboot the phone it alerts me that i inserted a non verizon simcard (is there any chance that the phone will lock up because of that??)
5. what is s-off?????
thank you very much for any help!!
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5. what is s-off?????, this is the most import question in your list as it is the key to making your device as flexible as you would like it to be. This may not be the technical definition but I will give you the gist.
S in S-off basically stands for Security. The device has a mechanism coded in to it that is meant to prevent users from doing irreparable damage to the phones operating system. Removing the security when the phone is "S-off'ed" so to speak, allows end users to make any and all manner of change to the phones software. HTC has aggreed to exclude the Verizon version of the M8 from their developers access platform. Other M8's can have their bootloaders unlocked throught the HTCdev website. Bootloader unlock allows rooting, and roms to be flashed, with some limitations, and more hassles and annoyances then straight S-off. S-off gives you total control, and ease of use at the expense of possibly turning your phone into a brick. But if you look through the forums, you will not find very many people complaining about ruining their phones. If you use caution, read everything thoroughly, and ask questions, you will be safe. Once you are S-Off you can either run a custom rom, or learn what to change in the stock rom to enable features as you see fit.
Once S-off'ed, install TWRP (Custom Recover). I would then flash SuperSU zip file to get root. After that you flash the tether fix, or flash a rom with stock hotspot, fix your APN settings to work with your simcard, and every thing else.
Links are to Devs download sites read and follow their directions. I'm using all of the following on my M8, thats all I can say.
Sunshine Dev Site for S-off: http://theroot.ninja/
TWRP custom recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/development/twrp-blank-os-fix-t2879306
superSU.zip dev site for root: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu
Titanium Backup in the Play Store can remove Verizon Bloat once the phone is S-off and Write Protection removed, you will learn as you go.
mc_365 said:
5. what is s-off?????, this is the most import question in your list as it is the key to making your device as flexible as you would like it to be. This may not be the technical definition but I will give you the gist.
S in S-off basically stands for Security. The device has a mechanism coded in to it that is meant to prevent users from doing irreparable damage to the phones operating system. Removing the security when the phone is "S-off'ed" so to speak, allows end users to make any and all manner of change to the phones software. HTC has aggreed to exclude the Verizon version of the M8 from their developers access platform. Other M8's can have their bootloaders unlocked throught the HTCdev website. Bootloader unlock allows rooting, and roms to be flashed, with some limitations, and more hassles and annoyances then straight S-off. S-off gives you total control, and ease of use at the expense of possibly turning your phone into a brick. But if you look through the forums, you will not find very many people complaining about ruining their phones. If you use caution, read everything thoroughly, and ask questions, you will be safe. Once you are S-Off you can either run a custom rom, or learn what to change in the stock rom to enable features as you see fit.
Once S-off'ed, install TWRP (Custom Recover). I would then flash SuperSU zip file to get root. After that you flash the tether fix, or flash a rom with stock hotspot, fix your APN settings to work with your simcard, and every thing else.
Links are to Devs download sites read and follow their directions. I'm using all of the following on my M8, thats all I can say.
Sunshine Dev Site for S-off: http://theroot.ninja/
TWRP custom recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/development/twrp-blank-os-fix-t2879306
superSU.zip dev site for root: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu
Titanium Backup in the Play Store can remove Verizon Bloat once the phone is S-off and Write Protection removed, you will learn as you go.
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If I do the s-off with sunshine, pay 25$ and later on will need to format the phone back to factory settings, will I need to pay again to s-off it a second time?
udiperets said:
If I do the s-off with sunshine, pay 25$ and later on will need to format the phone back to factory settings, will I need to pay again to s-off it a second time?
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No, the S-Off is permanent unless you deliberately put S-On. In addition the the license is for the life of that device.
The non-verizon sim is annoying but has no effect on the phone whatsoever (been using my M8 in Afghanistan with a Roshan SIM for the past 5 months)
4. every time i reboot the phone it alerts me that i inserted a non verizon simcard (is there any chance that the phone will lock up because of that??)
No, it's a "global" phone. It's the notification they have show up for roaming and non-verion SIMs. I don't live in the US and use my Verizon m8 everyday without a Verizon sim.
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I used to get the notification for the hotspot as well, but my hotspot still worked fine despite their warning. I'm rooted and s-off though so that might make a difference.
The answer to all you other questions can be easily found in like two seconds on here, such as how to root it. I don't think you even bothered to read the top stickied threads. Once you're rooted you can remove all the Verizon stuff, switch to a ROM that has it removed, or use ROM cleaner to get rid of it in a Verizon based ROM.
Hello! This may not be the place to put this thread, so please, if it is mistakenly placed, feel free to move it.
I wanted to create a thread for people who want to post their progress on unlocking the boot loader for AT&T and Verizon.
*I really hope this phone gets unlocked*
Does T-Mobile have a way of unlocking there boot loader? If so could that be,modified to work with verizon & AT&T
THADDIUS25 said:
Does T-Mobile have a way of unlocking there boot loader? If so could that be,modified to work with verizon & AT&T
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Yes, they have had boot loader unlock since day one. T-Mobile was nice enough that they had it unlocked for their users, but us, we are lost without custom roms.
Hopefully everyone put their money where their mouths were and ponied up their pledge when tungkick rooted freaking everyone that wasn't tmobile. Glad to give up some more money if the bootloader can be unlocked
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Does T-Mobile have a way of unlocking there boot loader? If so could that be,modified to work with verizon & AT&T
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T-Mobile is shipped with unlocked bootloader. They purchase them from LG that way.
I don't need it. I have root and xposed, so I'm happy.
But...
nostang3 said:
I don't need it. I have root and xposed, so I'm happy.
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What about AOSP, Custom recovery, custom Boot logo, custom kernel to boost performance, increase battery life and SOT.
Say it with me "CM13 Nightlies on LG V10 for AT&T"
Just having root and exposed is like having your birthday cake w/ candles and not being able to blow them out and eat it.
Just want TWRP
I have my VS990 rooted on 5.1.1, running XPosed, Viper4A (all streaming apps like TuneIn, XM, etc. all processing correctly), and FOTA's disabled by debloating.
All good, yes?
Problem is, three steps forward, two steps back. I've had to nuke the phone several times after softbricking it trying to get a new feature implemented. Loving that 11b rooted file...
ALL I want is to be able to do a nice, simple TWRP nandroid. FlashFire backup doesn't work because it can't mount the system partition when you try to restore. I've created an ADB backup (full) with FlashFire, but I'm not gonna run restore with it until I have to (read: next softbrick).
If someone out there has a good, easy way to backup the entire phone, I'd love to hear about it. Not Titanium, either. Not what I'm looking for.
Thanks.
-Capt. Willy
Hello,
I have been searching and searching for a way to root this phone - Verizon HTC One M8. I'm tired of the 30 apps or so of bloatware and simply want to run my own launchers, etc without hindrance. I've heard sunshine might work, but i have not yet found a detailed guide for this process. If there is one please reply with link as I have searched and not found a guide.
Edit: I am running Marshmallow. (android 6.0). In the sunshine excel compatibility file there is something that confuses me as well. When i look at the boxes for HTC One M8 it says: Verizon m8 is network unlocked out of the box (all Verizon post paid phones are sim unlocked, prepaid are locked and we don't unlock them) - what does this mean? I want to root the phone to permanently get rid of the bloatware - can I?
Thanks,
paulrevere113 said:
Hello,
I have been searching and searching for a way to root this phone - Verizon HTC One M8. I'm tired of the 30 apps or so of bloatware and simply want to run my own launchers, etc without hindrance. I've heard sunshine might work, but i have not yet found a detailed guide for this process. If there is one please reply with link as I have searched and not found a guide.
Edit: I am running Marshmallow. (android 6.0). In the sunshine excel compatibility file there is something that confuses me as well. When i look at the boxes for HTC One M8 it says: Verizon m8 is network unlocked out of the box (all Verizon post paid phones are sim unlocked, prepaid are locked and we don't unlock them) - what does this mean? I want to root the phone to permanently get rid of the bloatware - can I?
Thanks,
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hi
sim unlock just means you can put a different carriers sim in the phone and it should work. sunshine will work for getting you all set on unlocking and all that nifty stuff
rooted, now have an encryption question
izzaeroth said:
hi
sim unlock just means you can put a different carriers sim in the phone and it should work. sunshine will work for getting you all set on unlocking and all that nifty stuff
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Hello again. Got it rooted with Sunshine, TWRP, Titanium Pro, Superuser, etc.. but when i try to encrypt storage in the settings it gets stuck on the red verizon boot screen. Is this the screen it should sit on while encrypting storage?
thank you,
paulrevere113 said:
Hello again. Got it rooted with Sunshine, TWRP, Titanium Pro, Superuser, etc.. but when i try to encrypt storage in the settings it gets stuck on the red verizon boot screen. Is this the screen it should sit on while encrypting storage?
thank you,
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unfortunately i do not use encryption, so i will not be able to help there. i am not even sure how long it would normally take