is Lollipop a step backwards... in some ways it is!!! - Galaxy S 4 General

Lollipop seems a little quicker and better battery life.
However it seems to me the developers have changed many things just for the sake of it, and many of those old good things are now worse. Many require a lot more clicks to do the same job.
For example, the pull down status bar quick settings isnt as good and isnt customisable like it used to be. and many features are no longer intuitive to open or access them.
Changing txt size in messaging simply by using volume up or down was convienient.
The camera is not as easy to use. Beforehand the video and the photo button were on the main camera screen so you could instantly select one or the other to quickly take a photo or a video. Now you must swipe the screen and then select the video or the camera option and then when the screen refreshes you can then click the button to start recording to take the photo. That can litterally add 5 seconds to the time it takes to get a video going plus you need to concentrate on the camera screen to get the process correct, so you are late capturing the action and cant watch what was going on with whatever it was you wanted to video or take a shot of.
The camera settings are not as customisable as it used to be either and currently you cant even select to store in the external sd card
Phoning and txting is not as easy or simple as it used to be. Eg, in "recents" you used to be able to swipe right to call a contact and swipe left to text. Now to call you tap on them. then have to tap it again to select to call them. And if you want to text you need to tap on the icon next to the name or number and it opens the contact, then you need to select the message icon to txt them. Friggen stupid!
What else am I missing here??? Im probably being a bit picky... but why make it worse!

scott2ride said:
Lollipop seems a little quicker and better battery life.
However it seems to me the developers have changed many things just for the sake of it, and many of those old good things are now worse. Many require a lot more clicks to do the same job.
For example, the pull down status bar quick settings isnt as good and isnt customisable like it used to be. and many features are no longer intuitive to open or access them.
Changing txt size in messaging simply by using volume up or down was convienient.
The camera is not as easy to use. Beforehand the video and the photo button were on the main camera screen so you could instantly select one or the other to quickly take a photo or a video. Now you must swipe the screen and then select the video or the camera option and then when the screen refreshes you can then click the button to start recording to take the photo. That can litterally add 5 seconds to the time it takes to get a video going plus you need to concentrate on the camera screen to get the process correct, so you are late capturing the action and cant watch what was going on with whatever it was you wanted to video or take a shot of.
The camera settings are not as customisable as it used to be either and currently you cant even select to store in the external sd card
Phoning and txting is not as easy or simple as it used to be. Eg, in "recents" you used to be able to swipe right to call a contact and swipe left to text. Now to call you tap on them. then have to tap it again to select to call them. And if you want to text you need to tap on the icon next to the name or number and it opens the contact, then you need to select the message icon to txt them. Friggen stupid!
What else am I missing here??? Im probably being a bit picky... but why make it worse!
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Lolipop Touchwiz or Stock Android ?
I think u r talking about Touchwiz am i right?
If that's the case.
They actually improved performance. (because of art actually) i also actually like the design of Lolipop touchwiz, making it more lively. but it depends on the people. i dont really care about the old setting. i only care battery and performance.
as i am a 9505 user, i cannot really tell the difference between 4.4.2 KK and 5.0.1 Lollipop Touchwiz as i only tested the LEAK version of it.

I think he's talking about GPE roms. As I'm sure that touchwiz lollipop ui looks a lot like kitkat ui of the s5.
If you do a google image search for touchwiz lollipop you will see that there isn't much difference in the ui except for the looks and a few small aditions.
The OnePlus One camera app, that comes as a choice when you install Danvdh's GPE rom, has the photo and video button on the main screen. Also has the option to change save location.
The CM messenger app, that also comes as a choice in Danvdh's GPE rom and comes stock on CM roms, has the ability to pinch zoom in or out.
I don't know how the kitkat GPE roms were.
But I agree with some of what he said. Activating mobile data isn't as simple as pulling down the status bar and tapping on the icon. Now you have to pull it down, tap the icon and then tap the small dot to turn it on.
And when you restrict background there is a stupid persistent notification. So you'll have to restrict background data on a per app basis to not have that notification. This is not really convenient.
Then the battery saver mode turns the status bar orange. Why would it do that? There is another stupid persistent notification telling me that battery saver is on. I don't need a orange status bar. And I doubt that orange is more battery friendly than black.

GDReaper said:
I think he's talking about GPE roms. As I'm sure that touchwiz lollipop ui looks a lot like kitkat ui of the s5.
If you do a google image search for touchwiz lollipop you will see that there isn't much difference in the ui except for the looks and a few small aditions.
The OnePlus One camera app, that comes as a choice when you install Danvdh's GPE rom, has the photo and video button on the main screen. Also has the option to change save location.
The CM messenger app, that also comes as a choice in Danvdh's GPE rom and comes stock on CM roms, has the ability to pinch zoom in or out.
I don't know how the kitkat GPE roms were.
But I agree with some of what he said. Activating mobile data isn't as simple as pulling down the status bar and tapping on the icon. Now you have to pull it down, tap the icon and then tap the small dot to turn it on.
And when you restrict background there is a stupid persistent notification. So you'll have to restrict background data on a per app basis to not have that notification. This is not really convenient.
Then the battery saver mode turns the status bar orange. Why would it do that? There is another stupid persistent notification telling me that battery saver is on. I don't need a orange status bar. And I doubt that orange is more battery friendly than black.
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Well i couldn't swipe from the right to make phone calls or swipe left to text someone in recents.... (Or i just didn't noticed it....which also i know that feature is in touchwiz)
But the thing is that KK was more easier to use specially on GpE or CM based roms, and a lot faster specially carbon rom. (That's for me) and save more battery because of the Holo Dark theme.
But as i said. I like the Design of lolipop, so i'm going to stick with it. I'm on Cm12 right now where i dont need to press Twice on the wifi to turn it on,just the icon. But data turning is the same.
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Related

The: BSOL (Black Screen of Life)

Being a G2X user and experimenting with various custom ROMS; most of us are all to familiar with the so called SOD (Sleep of Death), AKA: BSOD (Black Sleep of Death) or (Black Screen of Death).
Regardless of what we choose to call it...
IT SUCKS.
We want Performance, Reliability, & acceptable Battery Life.
Having a Frozen or Locked-Up G2X(Phone)... JUST PLAIN SUCKS.
So to pay respect to the unpleasant/familiar SOD condition, I've decided to have fun with it.
I would like to introduce to you, what I call...
The: BSOL (Black Screen of Life).
I know a few of you were probably thinking (Bull SH!T Outta Luck) Lol
Anyways Here's the concept...
By stacking some of my favorite applications together & theming them.
I've attained a rather pleasant setup that seems to compliment the G2X's lack of RAM & other quirks and various limitations.
Here's the setup and why.
Feel free to use some or all of my settings. (Some will be based on Personal preference.)
My G2X screen loves to turn on as soon as there is a USB connection.
It's just annoying... this setup minimizes the impact.
Were going all Black... “How much more black could it be... None More Black!!!”
Let's start with the launcher.
-Lightning Launcher
I use it because it is light weight on resources, fast, stable, & highly configurable on my G2X.
Under: Customize Lightning> Current screen> Wallpaper & background>
I unchecked: Display the wallpaper & set Plain Color to... BLACK.
Then do the same for the App drawer.
Now over to the status Bar... cleaner is better so.
Remove the battery strength & all I show is: Data, Signal Bars, & Time.
We will load...
-T.E.A.M. Battery Bar for a Top Bar and change the Automatically Color Settings
I use: Green for Charging, Cyan Blue for Regular, Red for Full, Orange for Medium, & Red for low.
Oh I forgot to mention, I like Black therefore I like ICS themes, I use...
-Ice Cream Sandwich CM7 Theme
Lots of CM7 style ICS blue & black... Yum.
Anyways one of the best things about Lightning Launcher is the Drawer.
It can be infinitely Big, or infinitely small, I kinda use both.
You'll see later, but let me also state from a user standpoint I like Gesture swiping.
So we will set a swipe down to open the app drawer & a swipe up to show/hide the status Bar.
But better yet, Let me introduce some of you to...
-Sidebar Lite/Pro
Anyways by swiping from the edge of your screen, you can Always bring up your favorite apps.
Note: even from another application, without having to return to your launcher.
It's slick & once you try it, I doubt you'll ever want to go without it.
(Think of it similarly to the Ubuntu Mobile phone launcher)
Anyways back to the setup.
I'm right handed, so I set my Lightning Launcher's Swipe right to be:
-Fast Dialer
It's kinda Ugly by default, but once you go into settings & change TEXT=CyanBlue & Button/Backgrounds to Black it looks sick.
YES I too find the ads annoying (and wish the developer would release an ad free version) But...
It can be configured so: I can find & dial a contact in 2 clicks
Caveat: If you have so many contacts that start with the same letter you might have to scroll.
CONFUSION/CONFLICT & CLARIFICATION
Yes, BOTH Sidebar & Fast Dialer are configured to launch when swiping right
But... Swiping from the left edge of your screen (AKA edge-swipe) differs from swiping right from anywhere else.
As I said, “I am Right Handed”... So far we have the following.
-Swiping up= Shows or Hides the status bar
-Top screen Edge-swipe down = Shows Notification bar
(Inside I have my favorite Power widgets & Yes they are CyanBlue too)
But I also changed the carrier name to custom, & Inserted: First & Last-name
(I know that my carrier is WIND but having my name personalizes it even further)
-Left screen Edge-swipe right = Sidebar ALWAYS does (Even from another application)
-Swipe right = Fast Dialer (and I can find contact & dial in 2 clicks)
-Swipe down = Launcher drawer (I typically have mine sized to see every icon I have)
I don't need to read them as I know them by icon but if you need to you can zoom in.
Note: it supports pinch zoom in & out, but by hitting your menu button & then selecting Zoom it will toggle between: Fit ALL & Normal Icon Size.
Oh I almost forgot here's one of my favorites, I use...
-Screen Off and Lock
Then after enabling it, I configure Lightning launcher so that when I double click on any blank Spot
-The screen turns off without having to reach for the power button.
In this case it's basically anywhere on the phone. This adds both convenience & prevents your power button from wearing out prematurely.
Almost done.
Under Tablet tweaks inside CyanogenMod tweaks, I disabled the lock-screen.
(Before you crucify me about how insecure this is... I know the risks, thank you for your concern).
Why...???
After I Push the Power Button, the phone is ON. It's all black or if I kept the status bar displayed...
I can see the time & any new notifications... then I double tap & the screen turns off.
VOILA, VERY, Very Slick.
To Finish the Set-up I use...
-Small Call
Why...???
I hate when I'm doing something on my phone & the dialer snaps to the forefront and kicks me out of what I was doing. This incoming call is usually from someone I don't know or even want to talk to.
Small Call let's me continue what I'm doing & in a more subtle manner choose to accept or Ignore calls.
I have a semitransparent black box near the bottom of my screen where I can read texts & click to respond or ignore. You can even set a default decline action.
Clicking the RED X in the box will close the pop-up box yet leave the mail notification as un-read.
Perfect for an angry wife or girlfriend cause you can show them how you never even checked your message... LOL (Just kidding).
Anyways...
That's my setup, & I Like it... hope some or maybe all of these suggestions can improve your G2X.
Time for some screen shots...
Wish me Luck, as I've never posted any before.
Screen shots
Hope this works...

People running 4.4, what changes have you noticed?

I'm wondering if updating the Droid Maxx and Ultra have given you some of the same features found on Moto Xs running KitKat, such as Moto Skip NFC unlock support, access to updated Motorola apps from the play store, etc.
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Small UI changes. Updated to Droid Zap. Wallpaper no longer shifts when you scroll. Most noticeable or odd the gate. Many more small changes behind the scenes that are not very prominent.
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The NFC unlock with skip was already part of the November update, IIRC.
The differences that I have noticed:
- when you press the home key while using the stock launcher, it always brings you back to the default home screen, even if the last used home screen was another one. It's almost like you pressed home twice. It's a little annoying.
- if you have two apps that can do something, with nothing set as the default (say, two browsers on the system), the first time a browser link is pressed a list of items is shown, allowing yo to choose one and choose a button that says "Just once" or "Always". That's not new, but what is new is that if you select something and say "Just once", that item will be highlighted the next time you have the same choice.
- there is a full-screen mode for apps that support it. The first time you see it it tells you that you can return to normal with a swipe down from the top.
- if you turn on "tap to focus" in the camera app, there is a new focus/white balance control that you can drag to a focus point and then tap anywhere to take the photo and use that as the focus point (and, as I said, to control exposure/white balance.)
- apparently it supports BT LE devices like the Fitbit, and supports tap to pay for Google Wallet (though I use neither of these so cannot confirm for sure.)
- the status bar remains black and the battery status and time are still blue, with the network icons remaining blue for Google connection and gray for no Google authentication, and they also still show network activity (this is unlike the Moto X.) There is a new location status icon that looks like a white Google Maps place point icon. For some reason the network icons look different to me, but they may be the same.
- there is now an unlabeled icon to clear all notifications in the notification shade, and the settings page icon looks a little different. Also, the settings gear icon looks a little different.
- there is a setting to allow you to set the default messaging app.(settings->more [under "wireless & networks"]->default SMS app)
- there is now a settings->printing setting (I don't think that was there in Jellybean) and I have printed from GMail, Hangouts and Chrome.
There really isn't a whole lot that's different or that looks all that different. (I probably missed some things...)
I only ran JB for a day so I don't really know if this is new, but I've noticed many apps now have the annoying 3-dots menu show up all by itself, occupying as much space as if we had a soft-key nav bar.
Very annoying, wish there was a way to get rid of that.
GnatGoSplat said:
I only ran JB for a day so I don't really know if this is new, but I've noticed many apps now have the annoying 3-dots menu show up all by itself, occupying as much space as if we had a soft-key nav bar.
Very annoying, wish there was a way to get rid of that.
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Settings...display...use long press for menu
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Thanks! I never even thought to look there. I'm sooo much happier with it now.
I have an issue where when texting someone and they reply the keyboard disappears. I backup all my stuff and did a factory reset from the recovery menu and it was fine until 2 days ago. I loved JB before this update. The only thing that was better in this update was performance and that's it. There are still a ton of little issues with KitKat vs. JB
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Overlapping notifications

So i have been modding my phone for a month now and have found several bugs that make thinks kind of difficult. I have a Samsung Galaxy Ace 3 (GT-S7275R) and installed the Cyanogen 12.1 mod and latest kernel from Kotzir. The problem is when i get a notification in the drop down menu, it overlaps with the menu and the other notifications. I understand that the transparent theme may cause this "trick" of hiding the notification behind a menu may cause it to appear behind it, but it should scroll with the menu anyways. And besides that, in the notification area the notifications overlap as well. The standard music app even has 2 notifications overlap itself. So i think there is something wrong with the grid of the notifications? Some counter that's stuck or something? Other than that, the phone is really stable and battery life has extended by 150% so i am happy, but i don't like to have to manually open every app to see what is going on, even more so if you can only open it by the notification like USB settings and such.
(i would like to post pictures but since i am new here i have to make 10 post before i can. i will as soon as i can, sorry for that)
Thanks in advance
Nevermind
This from can be closed, i moved over to android 6.0 CM13. It doesn't have the problem.
However a bit more information for other people who want to stay at the CM12.1:
1: The problem seemed to happen whenever more then one app had a notification. Just one app after a fresh reboot didn't cause anything.
2: If you pressed where the icons should be, you would still select it. This means it was just rendered wrong. This would mean the grid is fine, but there is a bugg in drawing the notifications properly.
3: Sometimes the menu would freeze and the animation would hang but the menu would still be pushed upwards when swiped up. The menu would freeze causing you to only see a stripe with a half gear and the other icons but just at the top.
4: The clock becomes visible after turning the screen 90 degrees either way.
5: Restarting the GUI via the settings menu should solve the problem. The icons still work just image swiping down with your eyes closed. swipe all the way down and press the gear icon to open settings.
Thanks to the admin who placed it to the correct category anyways.
have a nice day everyone ^^
Greetings from Quinix

Honor 8 Nougat and EMUI: Likes and Unlikes

I have the FRD-L04 with Nougat and updated to EMUI 5.0 OTA.
Been using this update for 3 days now. So far, I have this hate/love relationship with it.
Changes that I like:
-Allows built in call recording (in EMUI 4.1, any third party app wasnt able to successfully record calls and even if it did, the other end was very very low in volume)
-App drawer
-Pedometer on lock screen
Changes that I dislike/hate:
-Notifications when pulled down, won't show more than 1 line. For example, if someone messaged me on messenger or whatsapp, I can only see ONE line of text vs before where I can pinch and drag down to see at least 4 or 5 lines of text.
-system apps are now white in the background. For example clock, voice recorder, calculator now have a "light" background where as before it was a black/dark background. And there is no way to change it.
-notification icons do not show on status bar when lock screen is on, you must unlock phone to see this.
Any suggestions to any of the unlikes above?
use floatify to get better notifications and a theme can change backgrounds to black
jkccl9 said:
use floatify to get better notifications and a theme can change backgrounds to black
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My only issue with Floatify as a lockscreen is that there's a delay between when the screen turns on and when it loads. It's not awful, it's just not instant. As a result, I switched to just floating notifications on lockscreen instead of Floatify lock screen.
Do you experience this issue as well?
EMUI have a theme engine, you can use the Material theme to change the look. https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/themes Some themes aren't fully compatible with EMUI5 yet, but try the dark CM14 one for starter.
I distinctly remember if I try to expand the 1 line notification in EMUI 4.1, it lets you 'allow the app' which then lets you expand the notification, not sure if it's an issue EMUI5, it seems fine for me.
Likes:
-It sucked less than EMUI 4.1.
Dislikes:
-It's not stock Android.
Telperion said:
My only issue with Floatify as a lockscreen is that there's a delay between when the screen turns on and when it loads. It's not awful, it's just not instant. As a result, I switched to just floating notifications on lockscreen instead of Floatify lock screen.
Do you experience this issue as well?
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Not 100% sure of your problem but I use floating on lock screen as well
I actually miss the pull down with notifications separate from quick settings.
Presses seem to not be registered as well. I feel like I press something and it sometimes takes a few before it responds.
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mostly just negatives for me...
- I can no longer reply to messages from notification with Hangouts. Click on Reply launches Hangout instead of letting you reply inline.
- They still did not add back the missing function with Do Not Disturb function. On AOSP, when you turn it on, there's option of having it automatically turn off after a certain amount of time of your choice or when the next Alarm clock goes off.
- Bluetooth with my car is completely broken after Nougat so I had to revert back to Marshmallow.
- Wifi/Cellur data connection seems to take a while to 'wake up' after the phone goes to sleep for a while.
- Google Voice is broken.
jkccl9 said:
Not 100% sure of your problem but I use floating on lock screen as well
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Steps to reproduce:
Lock screen and turn off display
Press power button to turn on display
There's a maybe 100-500ms delay where you will see Huawei's default Magazine Unlock lockscreen before Floatify loads. If you've just recently viewed your lock screen, and repeat steps 1-2, Floatify's lockscreen will load instantly.
Telperion said:
Steps to reproduce:
Lock screen and turn off display
Press power button to turn on display
There's a maybe 100-500ms delay where you will see Huawei's default Magazine Unlock lockscreen before Floatify loads. If you've just recently viewed your lock screen, and repeat steps 1-2, Floatify's lockscreen will load instantly.
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ahh yh i get you now, there is a setting to disable the lock screen is developer options, (3rd one down) so floatify is the only one
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ahh yh i get you now, there is a setting to disable the lock screen is developer options, (3rd one down) so floatify is the only one
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Unfortunately that doesn't work for those of us with corporate email accounts, screen lock is mandatory, and enforced by the device administration service (in this case Exchange synchronized through Gmail app). I can live with a short delay, it's not a deal breaker since Floatify is a significant improvement over the broken Magazine Unlock, and I only actually use my lockscreen on rare occasions due to the convenience of FPS unlock and screen on.
Telperion said:
Unfortunately that doesn't work for those of us with corporate email accounts, screen lock is mandatory, and enforced by the device administration service (in this case Exchange synchronized through Gmail app). I can live with a short delay, it's not a deal breaker since Floatify is a significant improvement over the broken Magazine Unlock, and I only actually use my lockscreen on rare occasions due to the convenience of FPS unlock and screen on.
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hmm that sucks :/
In reply to a few things mentioned above, to share my experience:
Bluetooth works fine, seamlessly reconnected to my car after update. (Isolated issue perhaps)
No issues with touch slow downs or unresponsive taps. (Isolated issue -- maybe apps installed with poor Nougat support?)
Eliminating the split notification panel and returning to AOSP Nougat style is a huge improvement. 90% of the time you're 1 swipe away from the content you want, and for the other 10%, you're only 1 additional swipe away. I also use the button configuration that has the notification shade pulldown in the right most nav postion.
While Google Voice may not work, you can make and receive calls through Hangouts using your GV number. For most people, the VOIP aspect is fine, although for some edge cases some may want to use Voice to make calls without a network signal.
Quick reply works for me when receiving and replying to Hangouts messages.
Not being able to expand notifications past 1 line -- I only have this problem so far on the stock Messaging app, I get multi-line expandable notifications for everything else.
What apps are only showing 1 line of text in the notifications?
Hi guys, first post. I am still enjoying the Honor 8.
Couple of niggles since updating to 5.0 that haven't been addressed previously, hopefully someone will have a solution.
1. Using WhatsApp I used to get the profile picture of the person msging me appear in the status bar, this was a cool little touch. Now I just get the standard WhatsApp voicebubble.
2. The app switch "square button" apps now display only vertically, I liked them scrolling horizontally, anyway of changing this.
Thanks all.
The Wifi calling feature is still not available. That is a shame!
The ROG mode is not enabled, even though I can turn the power saving with lowered resolution on in another setting interface. It is just not working as expected. That is strange.
When I use screen off and lock app and unlock using the finger print scanner it now makes me enter my lock screen password. So now I have to use my power button to shut my phone off if I want to wake my phone to the home screen using the finger print scanner.
droidboy29 said:
When I use screen off and lock app and unlock using the finger print scanner it now makes me enter my lock screen password. So now I have to use my power button to shut my phone off if I want to wake my phone to the home screen using the finger print scanner.
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You can use the stock integrated Screen lock widget and when you unlock your phone with fingerprint no password required
https://s2.postimg.org/b539m758p/IMG_20170215_181524.png
Itchigo53 said:
1. Using WhatsApp I used to get the profile picture of the person msging me appear in the status bar, this was a cool little touch. Now I just get the standard WhatsApp voicebubble.
2. The app switch "square button" apps now display only vertically, I liked them scrolling horizontally, anyway of changing this.
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I can confirm #1, although in my case it was Hangouts and Slack where I was seeing the profile icons. #2 is the way the Android AOSP recent apps have looked since 5.0 Lollipop in 2014, and for the most part even since 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich in 2011. Huawei made significant modifications to the recent apps list in EMUI that were largely unpopular with the user base who preferred and was used to the way Recents worked for the past 6 years. You'll get used to it over time, it's a familiarity thing. If you're not used to AOSP or AOSP based ROMs like CM, Lineage, etc, it's a bit of a shock. Most OEMs also kept the AOSP-style Recents (LG, etc) even in their UI skins.
An additional issue I've noticed: When disconnecting from a charger, it always shows a popup with the battery percentage that has to be dismissed via button tap. I can't find a way in settings to disable this, has anybody else found it?
nice to know! still, annoying to ditch my pretty widget!
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Which themes have the black notification backgrounds because the ones I've tried (via link provided) don't!
I'm on FRD-L04 and I cannot find any screen lock widget I don't think my phone has one. My honor 5x had one but this honor 8 never had one not even when it was marshmallow. What version of honor 8 do you have?
NEVERMIND I found it lol .
Anyway my opinion of the EMUI 5 update is that it is just a little less crappy than EMUI 4.1 The reviews made it sound like it was going to be this game changer when it's basically the same thing with a revamped notification pulldown and a few added features in settings. I really hope that we can get a functional custom ROM for this phone soon but without Huawei helping devs out with the proper stuff I don't see that happening anytime soon.
How long do these roll outs take? I am up to date according to software and still on Marshmallow. I even used the HI app

What is your first impressions on the Official Android 9 Pie?

So its been 7 days since I updated my Galaxy S9 + to the official Android 9 Pie. I am loving it overall. I think moving the UI elements to the bottom was a nice touch, leaning towards one hand operation. I panicked at first seeing all that wasted space but once you scroll down, it returns to normal. Love the Dark mode but not fond of the quick panel icons, no big deal. So far i had notice these bugs or feature omissions:
• No inertia scrolling in recent Apps (no rubber band effect). Scrolling is just one at a time.
• Some animation Jittering and Stuttering in the UI but less frequent now as the OS settled.
• The options when you click the middle of the divider in split screen view is not working/showing up.
• Good lock Apps stopped working except One Hand Operation
• Good Lock One hand operation is miles better IMO than the new gesture system, even better than the stock pie gestures and Apple gestures. Why don't they just bake One hand operation into the system is beyond me. But at least we can hide the nav bar natively now. One hand operation can co-exist with default gestures without affecting each other.
• Finder seems slow in Pie than in Oreo. It doesn't show the most recent search (by showing the app icons) i made and often requires me to tap twice the name of the app then another selection of related things about that app and that is where the icon will appear. Multiple taps instead of one.
• Dolby Atmos for games seems missing
• Swiping down in the homescreen to show notifications Panel needs a long swipe down as oppose to before needs only a small swipe down.
• Gallery - some very high resolution photos are not displayed properly. You can see jagged/rough lines all through out. But when you set the photo into wallpaper, homescreen shows the same photos correctly.
• Samsung Internet - PiP button is gone and couldn't find it anymore even in settings.
• Keyboard - when gestures are on (nav bar is hidden) and keyboard is showing there is a large gap at the bottom as if the nav bar is still there
• Network name overlaps with notification settings in the notifications panel if you have many notifications.
call_of_ktulu25 said:
So its been 7 days since I updated my Galaxy S9 + to the official Android 9 Pie. I am loving it overall. I think moving the UI elements to the bottom was a nice touch, leaning towards one hand operation. I panicked at first seeing all that wasted space but once you scroll down, it returns to normal. Love the Dark mode but not fond of the quick panel icons, no big deal. So far i had notice these bugs or feature omissions:
• No inertia scrolling in recent Apps (no rubber band effect). Scrolling is just one at a time.
• Some animation Jittering and Stuttering in the UI but less frequent now as the OS settled.
• The options when you click the middle of the divider in split screen view is not working/showing up.
• Good lock Apps stopped working except One Hand Operation
• Good Lock One hand operation is miles better IMO than the new gesture system, even better than the stock pie gestures and Apple gestures. Why don't they just bake One hand operation into the system is beyond me. But at least we can hide the nav bar natively now. One hand operation can co-exist with default gestures without affecting each other.
• Finder seems slow in Pie than in Oreo. It doesn't show the most recent search (by showing the app icons) i made and often requires me to tap twice the name of the app then another selection of related things about that app and that is where the icon will appear. Multiple taps instead of one.
• Dolby Atmos for games seems missing
• Swiping down in the homescreen to show notifications Panel needs a long swipe down as oppose to before needs only a small swipe down.
• Gallery - some very high resolution photos are not displayed properly. You can see jagged/rough lines all through out. But when you set the photo into wallpaper, homescreen shows the same photos correctly.
• Samsung Internet - PiP button is gone and couldn't find it anymore even in settings.
• Keyboard - when gestures are on (nav bar is hidden) and keyboard is showing there is a large gap at the bottom as if the nav bar is still there
• Network name overlaps with notification settings in the notifications panel if you have many notifications.
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1. Scrolling between recents doesn't stop at each app in recents on the k list recent C builds.
2. Don't atmos for games was reported as being somewhere different. I don't use it so I'm not sure where.
3. The keyboard gap is intentional. It's too help avoid hitting home when using space bar. If you use swiftkey there is no gap. I got home often when not intending to when using space bar.
4. Nav Gestures are appreciated here. No reason for something new when bar / gestures are fine. It's nice there's another option, but no reason it should be default IMHO.
todd3835 said:
1. Scrolling between recents doesn't stop at each app in recents on the k list recent C builds.
2. Don't atmos for games was reported as being somewhere different. I don't use it so I'm not sure where.
3. The keyboard gap is intentional. It's too help avoid hitting home when using space bar. If you use swiftkey there is no gap. I got home often when not intending to when using space bar.
4. Nav Gestures are appreciated here. No reason for something new when bar / gestures are fine. It's nice there's another option, but no reason it should be default IMHO.
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1. How about in yours? So looks like it was not implemented in the official and not just me.
2. I set atmos to auto so i guess it automatically set it for games, movies, and music, etc. But no option for games only. It is in Sounds and Vibration>Advanced Sound Settings>Sound Quality and Effects
3. Ok
4. Ok to each their own. One Hand Operation + was released since June 2018 along with other Good lock Apps so its not really new. It gives us a taste of the upcoming Pie update. And as it name says, it allows you to use the left and right edges for gestures in one hand. Try to reach the nav bar and do the new default gestures with your thumb with one hand and you'll know what I mean.
call_of_ktulu25 said:
1. How about in yours? So looks like it was not implemented in the official and not just me.
2. I set atmos to auto so i guess it automatically set it for games, movies, and music, etc. But no option for games only. It is in Sounds and Vibration>Advanced Sound Settings>Sound Quality and Effects
3. Ok
4. Ok to each their own. One Hand Operation + was released since June 2018 along with other Good lock Apps so its not really new. It gives us a taste of the upcoming Pie update. And as it name says, it allows you to use the left and right edges for gestures in one hand. Try to reach the nav bar and do the new default gestures with your thumb with one hand and you'll know what I mean.
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1. Yes, in the Z build I used it would stop at each app. I hated it. On CSA3 it works like in oreo.
2. I'm not sure where I read it, but there was something specific about Dolby for gaming mode being hidden off somewhere else. I didn't put much thought into it since I don't game. Could have even been in the pie thread for the 965F.
4. I do occasionally have a problem reaching that one button with my thumb in one handed mode. I've gotten used to it to be honest. The S9+ isn't the biggest device I've owned. The v20 and Nexus 6 were bigger.
That said, I can see the value in more one handed items. Choice is definitely a good thing. I'm just happy with the current implementation.
On the flip side, Samsung (and others) are always out to take more market share. I think they are seeing the error made by Apple. You can't raise prices and force unwanted changes on customers. Sticking with a more established bar / gestures would be the way I'd go. When you try to get new users, you want to give them something fairly familiar.
Just my opinion though.....
Its terrible IMO. Probably the worst implementation of Pie. Samsung went from having the best skin to the worst now.
After Factory Reset
Deal Breakers :-
1:- Recents animation is worse than 200$ phone. When u are inside an app and press or trigger recents menu. It glitches and lags like everytime. Its only smooth when u are in the homescreen.
2:- Device Care Stuck at 95% for a long time before it shows status.
3:- Launcher sometimes lags when scrolling between pages.
4:- Scrolling lag in apps like reddit and playstore. Oreo scrolling was smooth.
Lag is the major issue in pie however IMO the icons are literally the worst now too. Experience Ui icons were 100x better.
It's good. It's fixed my bluetooth latency issue.
Does anyone have problem with Samsung Cloud failing to sync?
_Usama_ said:
Its terrible IMO. Probably the worst implementation of Pie. Samsung went from having the best skin to the worst now.
After Factory Reset
Deal Breakers :-
1:- Recents animation is worse than 200$ phone. When u are inside an app and press or trigger recents menu. It glitches and lags like everytime. Its only smooth when u are in the homescreen.
2:- Device Care Stuck at 95% for a long time before it shows status.
3:- Launcher sometimes lags when scrolling between pages.
4:- Scrolling lag in apps like reddit and playstore. Oreo scrolling was smooth.
Lag is the major issue in pie however IMO the icons are literally the worst now too. Experience Ui icons were 100x better.
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I didn't factory reset, but that was the most annoying the recents scrolling. Animations in almost everywhere were lagging but as the OS settled and after a few reboots, its fluid 98% of the time. But still, i missed oreo due to its fluidity and icons and quick panel icons. No issues with device care.
Plugging in charger sound/volume is annoying. Was better/more subtle on Oreo.
So far so good despite the jitters on my BT phone (Sennheiser 4.50), if I use with wires, no problems at all... of if I use with another BT phone like Anker, no problems too.
djoxie said:
Does anyone have problem with Samsung Cloud failing to sync?
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That happened to me and i had to sign out of my account and back in
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Well... I am thinking of going back to Oreo acually..
1.Hangs, reboots
2.Stock launcher has this huge space underneath icons even with gestures on, same space thing on stock keyboard(using gboard removes it on keyboard)
3.My games dont launch like they did on Oreo
4.Notifications are messed up, constant connect/disconnect on my gear 3, even when turned of they show sometimes.
Maybe Goodlock 2019 will keep me on 9... but atm im very tempted to go back to 8.0 :/
For me, the One UI is great. But I don't like, that they removed the Audio Source in the USB-Settings.
When using DEX Pad the screen of the phone remains on until it times out and turns off. But when clicking on a text input field the screen turns on again. DEX is still missing a lot of functionality like widgets and direct dial shortcuts for example.
Video call audio issues
while onj video call in IMO the audio seems to be broken and blurry sound is heard
I love it aside from game launcher going MIA, thought it was just a beta thing but guess not
Found out it's more AT&T BS
Has anyone noticed the volume is so much quieter now? Looking for solutions. I'm not hard of hearing but I can barely hear my sounds anymore. That is a HUGE deal breaker for me, even tho there are some things I'm liking. Plus good Lock. Used that daily, multiple times a day. Now I have to remember to turn off wifi and turn on Bluetooth and vice versa multiple times a day to keep my battery in check. PITA. But that is negligible to the volume issue.
I´m pleased with OneUI... however, I really hate the fact that I cant turn of adaptive icons in Pie/OneUI. The third party apps get the worst loocking icons ever...
Manneman32 said:
I´m pleased with OneUI... however, I really hate the fact that I cant turn of adaptive icons in Pie/OneUI. The third party apps get the worst loocking icons ever...
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Switched to my paid version of Nova for that reason. Plus now I have double tap to turn off the screen. Missed that feature from LG.
pre4speed said:
Switched to my paid version of Nova for that reason. Plus now I have double tap to turn off the screen. Missed that feature from LG.
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I installed Nova Premium at first, but when I changed icontheme Nova started to randomly change size of the icons. Even if I changed it back two hours later it got a different size. Not all icons, just random ones.

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