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After what I've read about Lollipop so far I'm getting kind of ambivalent about updating. Here are two of my concerns in regards to notifications:
1) Heads-up notifications. Apparently developers are the ones that are now in control of whether notifications are important enough to completely blot out a piece of the top of the screen, including the ability to access the notification tray, until the notification is handled. So whereas before I could remain completely immersed in whatever app and wait until I decide I'm ready to pull down the shade, now I am forcibly blocked from accessing part of the app and user interface until I first interact with the notification. As far as I can tell users are unable to do anything about this intrusion.
2) Silent mode - it sounds like a lot of users are really upset already about this screw-up. The old silent mode allowed alarms through which was just perfect for the use case of alarms. You go to bed and you want your phone to shut up completely until the alarm that is supposed to wake you up. Now apparently the only real silent mode also silences alarms. "Priority mode", the feature that is used for so-called quiet hours, still lets through all sorts of vibrations from apps that many users cannot sleep through.
Are these accurate descriptions of the current state of affairs in Lollipop? If so I think it'll drive me nuts and I won't be able to switch until I can take control of these flaws. And with Xposed unavailable for the foreseeable future it means having to figure out how else to hammer a broken OS into respecting the functionality that used to "just work". Does this bother anyone enough that they'll just avoid upgrading for now?
I don't think so at all, it takes some getting used to because the system is alot more iphone-Esq in nature but it definitely works well. There is alot of few features that just bring the whole system up to date, feels very very modern now. Like when you plug the phone into the charger it tells you how much time is remaining until the phone is full, for instance my phone says 47 minutes until full right now in the charger. It can predict how much battery life remains based on typical usage. Having notifications on the lock screen so you don't have to go through the lock screen and then the pull down menu to see whats going on is very convenient. As far as silent mode goes, there is plenty of settings that allow alarms and events to still work even though calls and messages are silent, I like how they ditched the stereotypical "vibrate" or "silent" modes and went with "all" priority and "none". There are always going to be people that are very resistant to change and claim that its awful, but I feel this was a much needed update to the android system.
Nonetheless if I'm given only the choice now between either intrusive or useless notifications, it's not very appealing.
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but you are given a choice
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but you are given a choice
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The choice I am looking for is:
1) Completely disable heads-up notifications and keep them all in the notification tray, because if I'm doing something on my device I damn well want to stay in what I'm doing instead of other apps getting to choose if they can block part of my screen.
Can I do this on Lollipop?
2) At night, silence everything, *never* vibrate for anything ever, but allow alarms (and possibly voice calls) to ring.
Can priority mode do this?
From what I am reading, people are complaining that vibrate notifications are still leaking through in priority mode.
Can't say I've noticed any vibrations from apps.
cmstlist said:
The choice I am looking for is:
1) Completely disable heads-up notifications and keep them all in the notification tray, because if I'm doing something on my device I damn well want to stay in what I'm doing instead of other apps getting to choose if they can block part of my screen.
Can I do this on Lollipop?
2) At night, silence everything, *never* vibrate for anything ever, but allow alarms (and possibly voice calls) to ring.
Can priority mode do this?
From what I am reading, people are complaining that vibrate notifications are still leaking through in priority mode.
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I use 'None' at night and it stops everything, as designed, but I've not tried an alarm as I have a clock for that. Turning on 'Priority' alerts, but turning calls/messages/Events off, should only allow alarms through but, again, I've not tried this.
As for notifications, I've been watching videos on YouTube full screen and the notification hasn't popped up unless I drag down to view the bar so doesn't seem to be an issue
Best thing to do? Back up your phone, flash 5.0 and if you don't like it go back to 4.4.4 and restore your backup
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2) At night, silence everything, *never* vibrate for anything ever, but allow alarms (and possibly voice calls) to ring.
Can priority mode do this?
From what I am reading, people are complaining that vibrate notifications are still leaking through in priority mode.
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THIS.
Audio management is just a pain in the ass. I got the same need, when I go sleep I don't want ANY sounds from the phone except wake up alarm and calls coming from a whitelist.
Actually this is not possible. If I set interruption mode, it doesn't silence any other sounds (eg: try to put the charger in and you'll hear the sound/vibration), and If I set the completely silent mode it doesn't allow interruptions.
I used to use a third party app named Nights Keeper, it was perfect running on KitKat, but now it is not on Lollipop, as it can't set the phone on totally silent mode except calls from whitelist.
Dunno if it's a bug or a "feature", the fact is that i'm not satisfied with this, and i can't "fix" it with 3rd party apps.
I always recommend that one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.antonc.phone_schedule
Works like charm for the father of 2 year old - mute from 21 to 6:40 am, all alarms always on proper volume.
unster said:
I always recommend that one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.antonc.phone_schedule
Works like charm for the father of 2 year old - mute from 21 to 6:40 am, all alarms always on proper volume.
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does it work properly on Lollipop?
'cause this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nightskeeper&hl=en is supposed to do the same, but it actually doesn't works with L
I think so. Just tested it briefly and seems to work on me.
just to say that i've created a new Enhancement request here: if this means something for you here having the same needs of me, please partecipate.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79334&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
I've noticed some issues with notifications in lollipop aswell.
Most disturbing is that notifications just pop up as icon in the status bar, except the app is heads up supported (like hangouts) than you get the heads up notification of course.
Before you had at least something like a banner. Even if it was only one line, at least you knew from whom your eg. message or email was and the subject or the first words.
It's seriously just the icon now
That devs have to implement things like buttons or a textbox is obvious, but just the text???
Come on google...
In regards to that app - I have read that when pre Lollipop apps try to put the device into Silent mode, instead it goes into Priority mode. Including Tasker. This may explain observations noted upthread.
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With HeadsOff lollipop heads-up notifications can now be disabled!
No root needed.
You can also restore the ticker text in the statusbar!
Give it a try:
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Lollipop seems to be the worst update I've had in years. I was in the UK and suing the Vodafone network (a mistake in itself), and it kept hassling me to update. In the end I did, and the patch that followed. I am not at all happy. I am on 5.0, and not 5.1, but I have read that 5.1 does not fix much.
My main grips are:
No actual benefits?
Alerts are silly, especially with the lock screen. They have mad a mess of this.
Removal of the privacy mode, which is vital to me as I use the phone as an alarm (even in 5.1 you can't allow the alarm and stop calls etc AFAIK)
Email alerts all show blank and are not removed when viewing the mail unless you click on the (useless) notification itself.
Connections with my Gear 2 are lost, and it does not connect again. The Gear thinks it is, so refuses connections
Task list is awful. I struggle to pick out which app is which. The old was was far simpler.
No longer a media controller on the lock screen unless you have notifications set on.
Automatic brightness stuff up, and makes the screen flicker.
? Can't think of more now (but there are), these are the most annoying to me.
This weekend I'll be doing a factory reset and re-installing the available Kit-Kat here in Oz. I'll refuse Lollipop until all these issues are fixed, which probably means never.
• Yes. The actual benefit is that since the launch of Android it is the first iteration which changed the way Android works, by moving to ART from Dalvik. Now I don't know how much better is ART than Dalvik, so don't ask.
• Yes. I hate that too. You mean the persistent notifications on lock screen right? Well you gotta deal with that it seems. I have tried to find an app or an Xposed module, but I haven't found any. If you do find something then please let me know. And I am sure you know how to disable that bloody irritating Headsup notifications.
• I have never used Privacy mode of Samsung, but my phone is almost always on Silent. But I have noticed that the Do Not Disturb mode is reintroduced in last update, OF3. In any case we should be thankful to Samsung that they have brought back the actual Silent mode of KitKat. Shame Google.
• I use AquaMail, and I don't notice any problem at all.
• No idea, no wear units.
• Disagree with you. I really like the new task switcher. Yes, you need to be a bit picky, but not to any extent of causing any annoyance. Personal preference though.
• No idea! God work life is killing me, haven't listened to music in months!
• Yes, this is a really irritating issue, however for me the auto brightness doesn't increase, but decrease actually. And no the screen doesn't flicker, at least haven't noticed that so far on OF3.
• .............
If you were happy with KK, then simply switch back. At initial stage I was anger with Lollipop too, but mainly because of disappearance of Silent mode and then those damn notifications on lock screen, but as the former is solved now, and I simple love Light backgrounds than darkish ones, I can't think about moving back to KK. And now when Xposed is all but working I can't even think it
Best of luck.
you should have posted this on samsungs forum, not on a hacking forum that has no affiliation with samsung
Ok as some of the members of this forum may know I got off to a shaky start with my Android wear watch (a Sony SW3).
I've now had it about four weeks and have over come the major problems I initially had, so I thought I would start a tread highlighting the things I love and the things I hate so others can assess if a smart watch is for them.
Firstly, what I love:
- Reading messages from Text, Email, Whatsapp and Messenger
It's so simply to just quickly look at my wrist see if I'm interested, if not I delete, if I am, may read further on the watch or if the message is to long, find my phone and continue there.
- Voice control
A really unexpected plus for me. I thought 'OK Google' was a bit of a gimmick at first, but how wrong could I have been. It's fantastic (OK, I feel a bit of a nerd saying OK Google to get it started, but that's a tiny problem). Driving and going to be late, OK google, Send text message to XXXX, then speak your message eg ' Sorry running late will be with you in 30 minutes. The translation is actually pretty accurate and it's done, you don't have to take your eyes off the road!
- It's an accurate watch, not sure where it gets it's time from but I guess it comes from the phone which in turn gets the time from the network which means no more setting, not running fast or slow. Not sure how it works when you change time zone though but I'll find that out soon enough.
- It's waterproof. Don;t forget to turn the touch screen off, but I've now been swimming with it, I regularly shower with it. Not a hint of a problem.
- Control you music system. I use Sonos around my home and I can turn the volume up and down, change track. Ok it's limited but it still an unexpected benefit.
- Control Bluetooth music with Spotify. Really a feature best used in the car. There's an app that will fire up Spotify on your phone which in turn will use the blue tooth audio to connect to your car. No more digging around to find you phone, unlock it, fire up spotify, find your play list etc etc etc.
- Incoming calls. Nice feature as I can decide if I want to take the call without having to find my phone to see who's calling.
What I hate (ok hate is a bit strong, but)
- The UI I think is not properly thought through You have al these options, tilt to wake, tilt to scroll through cards. Clumsy at best and a battery drain at worst (tilt to wake particularly) Even the touch screen to wake is not that cleaver as it can be operated but a lot of things touching the screen not just me, eg a sleeve, particularly one that is damp
- Voice control Ok I know I've said above that voice control is fantastic but it has one major down side, it needs internet connectivity. If it doesn't have it, it just doesn't work! Wish it would use the processing power of my phone to process voice.
- Wifi, ok I accept this is probably a bug, but wifi doesn't currently work properly, for some reason it will drain all the all the battery for no apparent reason and it does it very fast. I've now turned it off and only turn it on on the occasions because it's great to have full functionality
- Screen, the screen is fine, but that's damming it with faint praise. I would really like to see a higher quality screen and a little bit bigger would be nice.
- Incoming calls. When rejecting a call, it would be good to be offered a 'rejection message' that is sent via text giving a reason for the rejection.
When rejecting calls you can slide up instead of left por right swipe ano it will show up predefined messages that it will automaticly send to The caller.
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My complaints (1 month usage) is the app tray feels bloated. Not every app needs to be displayed. Not every app has options set through the watch. Also the layout feels cramped to me. I would prefer some options (icons only, 1x2, list mode, 1x1 mode, text/no text, recent shortcuts at top on/off, etc.)
2. Embedded speaker for taking quick calls without digging for your phone last minute. 1 problem a watch introduces is that your phone starts to be left behind. I now leave my phone on the counter while I buzz around my home. Phone rings, its a mad dash down stairs to find my phone.
3. Some sort of keyboard. I'll take the old school T9 input. Just let me type a few things.
player911 said:
My complaints (1 month usage) is the app tray feels bloated. Not every app needs to be displayed. Not every app has options set through the watch. Also the layout feels cramped to me. I would prefer some options (icons only, 1x2, list mode, 1x1 mode, text/no text, recent shortcuts at top on/off, etc.)
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Download wear mini launcher from the playstore. It's a brilliant replacement that let's you customise the watch to how you want it.
I totally agree with you. I also use Android wear for
Reading messages from Text, Email, Whatsapp and Messenger
Voice control
Agree with some points according to my experience with my old android wear.
Hope my new one will work better.
My most of my complaints are solved with the Asus ZenWatch2. It is a solid upgrade to the LG G Watch. Once Marshmallow drops, we'll get a new app tray and speaker support (Zenwatch2 and Huawei) for calls.
I tried the alt launchers and it doesnt replace the stock launcher but runs over top of it. So it just adds to the chaos. However after the nostalgia wore off, I dont really use apps thus dont need to go into the app drawer.
Keyboard: try FlickKey
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3. Some sort of keyboard. I'll take the old school T9 input. Just let me type a few things.
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Try FlickKey Keyboard for Wear. It adds a keyboard to any app that wants to call it. Right now, that is limited to Wear Messenger, Coffee for Wear, and K-9 for Wear - you need one of those messaging apps to be able to use it. BTE, FlickKey is not a T9 style keyboard - it works better than that.
I have tried various keyboards. What I was referring to was an option, by default, in Android wear to have a keyboard input. I don't use any of those apps, thus having a keyboard right now would be irrelevant.
What apps would you like to use a keyboard with?
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I have tried various keyboards. What I was referring to was an option, by default, in Android wear to have a keyboard input. I don't use any of those apps, thus having a keyboard right now would be irrelevant.
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I certainly agree that users should be able to decide for themselves if they want to use a keyboard or not, and which one they want on their smartwatch. What apps would you like to use a keyboard with? FlickKey can be added to any app with just about 15 lines of code. So message the dev who makes the app you want FlickKey in and let them know they can easily add it for free.
I find Android Wear to be very useful - when it works. Performance on my original 360 hasn't been very consistent either but I'm sure the S400 watches fare much better. Seriously though - every Android OEM needs to switch to AMOLED as soon as possible since it's much more suitable for smartwatch use.
I have installed AW on a Samsung Gear 2 (ported to the watch by @biktor_gj) and it runs really great !
Much much better than the default Tizen where it comes with normally.
Since I am using AW, I'm really hooked on it.
I love to be able to navigate with my watch and/or get notifications (from Google Maps) about any traffic jams or hold ups on my route.
I love to be able to use my voice to respond to whatsapp messages or even use my voice to make a new message without even holding my phone.
Really looking forward to the upcoming version (Marshmellow?), which suppose to have speaker support, because the Gear 2 has a build-in speaker.
So that means I can make calls too again from my watch (which is now only possible in Tizen, but not AW).
Hangouts and Messenger and Email (I know there are email clients that support wear and flickkey). I doubt Hangouts or Messanger will get it support.
I'm having a very, VERY difficult time getting this phone comfortably paired with my new Huawei watch. Irony of ironies, my Asus zenwatch 2 performed flawlessly for many months with the device, but since a factory reset, I can not get this to consistently stay paired with EITHER watch, leading me to believe it's an issue with the software, or the phone itself. I've got Android wear set to run with screen off, and ignoring battery optimizations, but still, many many times notifications I see received on my phone won't push to the watch, unless I open the Android wear app on my phone, at which point they forward immediately to the watch. Obviously, this is less than ideal to have to repeatedly do.
I've called Googles service number, and after very little troubleshooting they forwarded me to Huawei, who said I have to talk to the Chinese headquarters because Huawei USA doesn't service international devices. They don't have an international phone number that I've been able to find yet (Huawei USA has a wrong number listed for them.) And they haven't responded to my emails.
I've gone through many, many trial and errors trying to fix it on my own. I'd flash a custom rom if I was sure that would help, but I'm not versed in those ways, and I'd like to exhaust every other possibility before risking bricking.
I'm desperately trying to find a particular settings menu, for notification access, that emotion ui has squirrel away somewhere. I can tell it's a Huawei setting and not an android wear setting based on the aesthetics of the screen, but the only time I'm able to see this setting is when installing Android wear for the first time.
I'd like to check this setting WITHOUT having to unpair my watch and reinstall Android wear, but no amount of digging through the settings menu of emotion ui has shown me where to find it. It isn't in the notification menu, nor in permissions. Any gurus of this Android skin know where to find the notifications access settings page?
I have screenshots of the settings menu to show what I'm trying to find, but due to my post count I can't share links to them in this post, but I can pm them if that is helpful.
As an update to my situation, I discovered a slightly inelegant solution to accessing the notification access menu : I've started using an app called feel the wear to emphasize the notification vibrations, since the Huawei watch, particularly with a metal link band, is a little weak on the vibration motor. By uninstalling and reinstalling the app, it sends me to the notification access page again. The bad news, is that when my problem manifested again (after a phone restart, an event that consistently seems to be the catalyst for this) I reinstalled feel the wear, and Android wear was still enabled to have notification access.
So, to summarize, I've eliminated the following possibilities through troubleshooting that might cause the notifications to stop pushing to the watch unless I open the Android wear app on my phone (which immediately pushes the notifications to my watch.)
-notification access for Android wear
-doze settings (battery optimization is disabled for Android wear)
-Android wear has full permissions (trusted app)
-Android wear is set to auto launch, and is permitted to continue running after screen off.
Now, while I was in the notification access menu after reinstalling feel the wear, I did disable and then re-enable notification access for Android wear. This caused the watch to restart, notifications haven't delayed since that yet, but it hasn't lasted long enough for me to be comfortable that this remedies the issue.
Unpairing and repairing the watch every time this occurs isn't acceptable, is there any light to be shed on what could still be causing my problem?
Finally, if it could be any help, I'm a Tasker user, so if there is a profile I could write with a trigger when receiving a notification that might help, I have access to that utility. I tried writing one already, that, when my screen was off, would automatically open the Android wear app when receiving a notification from my three main apps that I monitor, but while the app was indeed open when I received notifications from one of those apps, it appeared that until the app was open with the screen ON, the notifications wouldn't push through, so it didn't solve my problem. Don't know if there's any action I can put in a profile that might "wake up" Android wear when I get a notification. (I hope my diligence in these Tasker pursuits illustrates the effort I've put into making this work, I adore this phone, and love Android wear, and really want them to play nicely together.)
Came across this thread while Googling for the same problem. I found a solution that while still inelegant, is better than the one you have here. I downloaded More Shortcuts. Which allows access to various settings activities that Huawei seems to hide, including Notification Access. Some of the android default stuff is there but then not functional. For example, I went to Data Usage which took me to a screen with black text on a black background, though also included a toggle and a dropdown that brings stuff up...
I tried downloading this app, but it doesn't seem to work with Nova Launcher. I'm curious to see what else I can modify
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Hey XDA,
I just got a new Mate 9 after I send my Nexus 6P to RMA. So far a great phone, although I've been annoying myself to some notification and Bluetooth related issues so far. I hope someone may be able to help me out here. Would be really appreciated.
- Notifications seem to ignore there given importance by the app and are not ordered to it. All notifications are simple visible in the status bar with it's icon, even if the priority is low, when on the Nexus 6P it would be hidden from the notification area and on the bottom of the notification drawer. This is really annoying for constantly running apps/processes like AccuBattery, Tasker, PocketBell and WhatsApp's web notification. Is there any way to honor this importance/priority without setting this for the whole app and order these notifications?
- Notifications seem not to honor there persistency. For example, when listening to Spotify, I'm able to swipe away this notification, which shouldn't be possible. Is there any way to make these really persistent?
- Notifications are not visible on the lock screen. I'm only able to select this on an per-app basis, but is there any way to configure this the other way around? Show all apps on lock, instead of the apps I don't want?
- Bluetooth Audio volume is not controllable through the phone. The sound volumes are separate, one on my headset and the phone. Any way to link these back together, like the feature added in Android 6, if I'm correct? Although, I'm able to see the charge of my headset. That's new, so I wonder why the volume isn't linked.
I've been used to Android Oreo/Nougat on the Nexus 6P and find these issues above really counterproductive and I'll lose the overview fast this way. Is this just me, or is this really different then the AOSP?
And if so, any idea how I can fix this? Is there something baked into EMUI that would fix this, or will a APP/ROM be the only solution? (although, I don't hope so) I have searched the web, but I wasn't able to find relation questions.
Oh, I'm having the MHA-L09 (with MHA-L09C432B126).
Thanks in advance!
Wouter0100