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I've seen some of you have said there is some 'bleeding of light' what does that mean actually? Are there holes in the casing or is it something with the screen? And how bad is it?
Edited to add: Despite the troll, a few people here have reported this problem first hand - however it appears to be small, so hopefully they got a rotten apple.
Having replaced my own LCD backlight, I can speak to it.
Basically the LED lamp sits on the very bottom of the tablet illuminating the tablet from the back (hence backlit), the light is supposed to be contained but sometimes the lamp housing may contain gaps and light will leak through those gaps. They appear as light flares across the above layers.
If you google Ipad 2 light leaks and view Images, you can see a great deal of reports with sample images of the symptom.
I'm not quite sure why companies don't just employ a rubber gasket or flap around the lamp housing to get a good light seal.
Kermode said:
I've seen some of you have said there is some 'bleeding of light' what does that mean actually? Are there holes in the casing or is it something with the screen? And how bad is it?
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I havent read any reports anywhere of anyone posting LCD issues with the transformer
checkbox111 said:
I havent read any reports anywhere of anyone posting LCD issues with the transformer
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There was a comment on one of the android forums.
I noticed it when I first switched on my device, but it was late at night in a very dark room, and brightness was on full. I have brightness set to auto now, and I have never noticed this again.
I am very intolerant of defects such as this, so if I am not seeing it, it's fair to say there isn't a problem. Of course that's just my opinion, but I really don't think it is an issue.
Hold on a moment .......OK, I've just gone and stood in a dark room, and brought up the Gallery App, because it has a dark border. No backlight bleed obvious until I turned the brightness up to maximum, at which point there was a vague semi-circle of backlight just to the right of the keyboard dock. Turning the brightness down to a sensible level solved the problem.
Hope this reassures you. I should perhaps point out that I have no affiliation with Asus, or Google, and no vested interested in device sales.
checkbox111 said:
I havent read any reports anywhere of anyone posting LCD issues with the transformer
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It's pretty rare I think. I've only read it on a couple of occasions and as far as I know it's the only physical issue with the tablet. Everyone keeps raving about it's build quality. So, if there is any light leak in mine (when I eventually get it) I'm swapping it. Just another reason to try it in the store
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Basically the LED lamp sits on the very bottom of the tablet illuminating the tablet from the back (hence backlit), the light is supposed to be contained but sometimes the lamp housing may contain gaps and light will leak through those gaps. They appear as light flares across the above layers.
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I'm afraid I don't understand that - what LED lamp (singular)? I thought whole panel was made up of tons of small "lamps" lighting up?
djklmnop said:
If you google Ipad 2 light leaks and view Images, you can see a great deal of reports with sample images of the symptom.
I'm not quite sure why companies don't just employ a rubber gasket or flap around the lamp housing to get a good light seal.
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Ah that is the problem. Yeah i have that on my computer monitor :-/
Hope there isn't a lot of that on the transformer
checkbox111 said:
I havent read any reports anywhere of anyone posting LCD issues with the transformer
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The very first thread here, where people were asking for this forum to be made, there were a few people who said theirs had bleed (and a few others said the sound was uneven in playback, one side very loud the other low)
I haven't seen much, so perhaps its only a few unlucky people.
Kermode said:
The very first thread here, where people were asking for this forum to be made, there were a few people who said theirs had bleed (and a few others said the sound was uneven in playback, one side very loud the other low)
I haven't seen much, so perhaps its only a few unlucky people.
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It was two people as they quoted 'has anyone' and 'i heard that there was' in other words the first person might have had it, but hasn't said anything since, the other person has heard a 'rumour'
I'm seeing a connection here between 'tablets' and 'tabloid' newspapers.
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It was two people as they quoted 'has anyone' and 'i heard that there was'
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No, spare me your rolleyes crap. It was people saying: My device has this problem. And some saying I'm returning it.
I've been reading a ton of sites about this device, and may have gotten confused about which site i read it on, but clearly there is no mistake when people say they have the problem, so don't accuse people of lying.
It certainly is mentioned here http://android.modaco.com/content/asus-eee-pad-transformer-transformer-modaco-com/336683/eee-pad-transformers-owners-thread-14-04-2011-first-post-updated/
"I had started to noticed light on my screen that shouldn't be there. This obviously is a backlight bleeding problem. ... the manager then took a look in the dark and he noticed it and said it was a fault with the screen and I can get a replacement."
http://www.avforums.com/forums/14430336-post46.html
"Screen. Some light bleed unfortunately (this is also being reported by other users on XDA forums/Modaco etc) - not a deal breaker, but it is there.. admittedly only noticable when using at night... Still great images though. "
(So he's probably not returning it)
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in other words the first person might have had it, but hasn't said anything since, the other person has heard a 'rumour'
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No, in other words: You probably make up stuff all the time and think everybody else does. Stop that.
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I'm seeing a connection here between 'tablets' and 'tabloid' newspapers.
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I'm seeing you on my ignore list.
Kermode said:
I'm afraid I don't understand that - what LED lamp (singular)? I thought whole panel was made up of tons of small "lamps" lighting up?
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That's the way led technology works, but lcd (and i think ips) uses backlights.
I have a little bit of light bleed about 1.5" up on the right hand side of the screen... It's about the size of a 5p coin.
I'm not going to worry about getting anything done about it I don't think. I only notice in in the settings screen, and I'm rarely in there. When I'm in portrait mode, I just see it as a 'glow' on the taskbar.
dcmtnbkr said:
That's the way led technology works, but lcd (and i think ips) uses backlights.
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lights - plural? So more than one, right?
Kermode said:
I'm afraid I don't understand that - what LED lamp (singular)? I thought whole panel was made up of tons of small "lamps" lighting up?
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Ah yes, you're right. Was thinking Flouro. In any case, light is leaking reflecting off small gaps from the edges and into the upper layers.
Have you ever tried to completely seal out all light out of a room? It is insanely difficult and amazing how much gets through.
Putzy said:
I have a little bit of light bleed about 1.5" up on the right hand side of the screen... It's about the size of a 5p coin.
I'm not going to worry about getting anything done about it I don't think. I only notice in in the settings screen, and I'm rarely in there. When I'm in portrait mode, I just see it as a 'glow' on the taskbar.
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One guy said his disappeared when he turned down the brightness of the device.
djklmnop said:
Ah yes, you're right. Was thinking Flouro. In any case, light is leaking reflecting off small gaps from the edges and into the upper layers.
Have you ever tried to completely seal out all light out of a room? It is insanely difficult and amazing how much gets through.
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No I haven't I generally don't blank out all light and watch stuff that way so I guess i'm ok (incidentally I hear that is bad for the eyes, watching tv in a totally dark room, but that's another talk)
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One guy said his disappeared when he turned down the brightness of the device.
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I'm already on half light, any lower and the screen looks stupid.
Putzy said:
I'm already on half light, any lower and the screen looks stupid.
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I hear it disappears completely when you turn off the device
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lights - plural? So more than one, right?
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Typicaly there are two light sources - at the bottom and at the top of the screen (or on the left and on the right - my LCD monitor has it that way). Sometimes there is only one source - on the bottom mostly.
I'm not sure about this but as far as I know LED backlight works the same way - it's only at the top or bottom in most displays. Some better LCD TVs with LED backlight have more LEDs behind the screen - but it's pricy to do so I doubt tablets will have it that way.
I have a reasonable amount of light bleed on my Transformer. Areas on the horizontal and vertical near the home button.
In addition, a couple of spots on the right hand side vertical.
No major drama, called Comet and they are sending me a replacement, though not until next Thursday when they predict they will have more stock, though given what I have been reading today on various sites, that date could slip a little. Doesn't matter though, my replacement request is logged and will happen when it happens.
On the down side, by the time I get a replacement I will have spent ages getting it just how I want it.
On the up side, I get to have all the fun of setting it up again.
On a side note, having cancelled a preorder for a Xoom through PCWorld and bought the Transformer, I finally got to play with the Xoom on the shelf today.
Definitely made the right decision.
The Transformer just feels better made, and despite the fact that the Xoom has excellent viewing angles, the screen is not a patch on the Transformer, oh, and did I mention the small fact of 100 quid!
The reason I started to asks about this is because I'm a bit skittish about light bleed, having once had a monitor and the store just thinking i was nuts "there is nothing wrong with this monitor its just you" - thanks a lot! Humpf.
Question to all of you Infinity owners. I don't have any major issues, light bleed, etc. However, i do have a concern about the 1mm or so black bar around the edge of the display between the black bezel and the actual displayed image (even on the main homescreens). Does your Infinity have this issue? It's not very noticeable, however, I am curious as to if I should exchange mine for a new one or if they are designed this way to not utilize the full display.
It's stock, not rooted, and not unlocked *yet If someone has the issue, please post PICS. I am at work and can't exactly do that with mine at the moment.
But, basically, it looks as if there is a 1mm or .5mm black "frame" around the display between the black bezel and the actual display imaged. Kinda reminds me of a double picture frame.
Can someone post a pic of there homescreen in as highest resolution possible, whether you have the issue or not so I can make a determination.
Thanks in advance
Mines got this, infact my phone and nook color has it too. Never noticed it before, probably will never notice after I hit enter. I imagine perhaps this is too keep light from the screen from bouncing off the framed bezel and creating a blur effect, just me guessing here.
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Mines got this, infact my phone and nook color has it too. Never noticed it before, probably will never notice after I hit enter. I imagine perhaps this is too keep light from the screen from bouncing off the framed bezel and creating a blur effect, just me guessing here.
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Okay, thanks. I really appreciate it. I didn't notice it on the Prime I had....
Anyone else? Can you post PICS if you don't or do please??
Trying to determine if I should return it for a new one or leave as is....as said in the OP, I don't have any other issue other than this...if it is truly an issue or if it is designed that way...
pinky059 said:
Okay, thanks. I really appreciate it. I didn't notice it on the Prime I had....
Anyone else? Can you post PICS if you don't or do please??
Trying to determine if I should return it for a new one or leave as is....as said in the OP, I don't have any other issue other than this...if it is truly an issue or if it is designed that way...
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Anyone..please...
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Anyone..please...
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It's by design, I have it too and so is my brother's tf700.
buhohitr said:
It's by design, I have it too and so is my brother's tf700.
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It seems everything has this, there's even this slight boarder on mon monitors I'm looking at now (all 5 of them!)
Thanks....kinda what I thought, but what is odd is that I didn't notice it on my Prime or my EVO 4G LTE. I guess it makes sense cause if you view it from different angles WO this border, it would cut off a mm or so of the screen (not a big deal), but it may be for some people.
Alright, thanks....Will keep mine then...
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Question to all of you Infinity owners. I don't have any major issues, light bleed, etc. However, i do have a concern about the 1mm or so black bar around the edge of the display between the black bezel and the actual displayed image (even on the main homescreens). Does your Infinity have this issue? It's not very noticeable, however, I am curious as to if I should exchange mine for a new one or if they are designed this way to not utilize the full display.
It's stock, not rooted, and not unlocked *yet If someone has the issue, please post PICS. I am at work and can't exactly do that with mine at the moment.
But, basically, it looks as if there is a 1mm or .5mm black "frame" around the display between the black bezel and the actual display imaged. Kinda reminds me of a double picture frame.
Can someone post a pic of there homescreen in as highest resolution possible, whether you have the issue or not so I can make a determination.
Thanks in advance
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Try an alternate launcher such as Apex or Nova. You'll find that you can change the margin setting which allows you to use the entire screen using these launchers. I don't understand why the stock launcher wastes so much screen!
hello everyone!
ive been browsing through XDA's nexus5 forums for hours and hours but i feel like my question hasn't really been answered so far. i cant post in the development forum with the faux app thread (i have less than 10posts which are required) so i'm posting in this sub forum.
i got my n5 yesterday and it has yellow tint. the colors look washed out too. question:
has anybody been able to fix his yellow tint with faux app + faux kernel/franco's kernel? so is it only a software issue (bad calibration) or is it a hardware issue which cant be fixed on our side?
everything else seems to be fine so i dont really want to RMA it now and get 3 other faulty RMAs with dead pixels or rattling buttons like some other people on XDA.
thanks in advance!
How yellow are we talking? The Nexus 5s are noticeably more warm than most other phones out there, but they are more accurate when it comes to color reproduction. Unless it's MAJOR, then I wouldn't worry about it. You'll get used to it. Then there's this... which I don't know much about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544128
My colors also looked a little more yellow after the update to 4.4.2, can anyone else confirm this ?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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How yellow are we talking? The Nexus 5s are noticeably more warm than most other phones out there, but they are more accurate when it comes to color reproduction. Unless it's MAJOR, then I wouldn't worry about it. You'll get used to it. Then there's this... which I don't know much about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544128
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it's definitely noticeable and quite annoying. the colors also look washed out and the entire display isn't as sharp as it should be (i think this is related to the general color/gamma problem). compared the color to my nexus S and you could directly see the difference. but i would say that ive seen much worse displays on pictures in the defects thread and other threads on here and that's why i'm hoping that it's fixable
yes, that's the app that ive linked in my first post. i'd be very happy if someone who has/had yellow tint and tested this app could post in here :fingers-crossed:
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it's definitely noticeable and quite annoying. the colors also look washed out and the entire display isn't as sharp as it should be (i think this is related to the general color/gamma problem). compared the color to my nexus S and you could directly see the difference. but i would say that ive seen much worse displays on pictures in the defects thread and other threads on here and that's why i'm hoping that it's fixable
yes, that's the app that ive linked in my first post. i'd be very happy if someone who has/had yellow tint and tested this app could post in here :fingers-crossed:
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Samsung displays are known to be VERY oversaturated. I came from the S3 and I thought it was a great looking display. When I got my N5 I thought it was okay, nothing great. Now I love it. If I look at the S3/S4 it hurts my eyes it looks so bad!
It seems to be an issue that's affecting a really small subset of devices. The screen on my phone isn't yellow at all - in fact, it's just about perfect. I've read that people have been able to fix it by installing Franco's kernel, which makes sense because my screen gets too blue when I install it. If you make a yellowish display bluer, it should look normal.
Hello people,
Well, like the title says... I'm having the screen burn-in problem on my Pixel.
It's not affecting only the navigation and notification bars, but some icons and widgets from home screen too.
Is there a way to fix it or minimize it? I tried inverting colors and decreasing the screen brightness, it seems to improve it, but the "ghosts" are still there, even though they are visible mostly on white or grey screens.
It's very disappointing, I don't know what to do. There are some "burn in fixer" apps, but they basically invert the colors too, but I've read that they actually burns all the other pixels. Is it harmful to use them?
Thanks!
Vinicius
vinicius.rodsilva said:
Hello people,
Well, like the title says... I'm having the screen burn-in problem on my Pixel.
It's not affecting only the navigation and notification bars, but some icons and widgets from home screen too.
Is there a way to fix it or minimize it? I tried inverting colors and decreasing the screen brightness, it seems to improve it, but the "ghosts" are still there, even though they are visible mostly on white or grey screens.
It's very disappointing, I don't know what to do. There are some "burn in fixer" apps, but they basically invert the colors too, but I've read that they actually burns all the other pixels. Is it harmful to use them?
Thanks!
Vinicius
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You should just contact Google about this issue. It's a hardware issue... Use the support tab in settings
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You should just contact Google about this issue. It's a hardware issue... Use the support tab in settings
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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately contacting Google and RMA is not viable... I imported the device.
vinicius.rodsilva said:
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately contacting Google and RMA is not viable... I imported the device.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
But is there any way to fix that? I think I had bad luck :-/
vinicius.rodsilva said:
But is there any way to fix that? I think I had bad luck :-/
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No it's a hardware problem..
Invert colors and increase the screen brightness, don't decrease it. You want that invert to make the pixels' lighting decay to match the rest as fast as you can. Do that for a few days and it should even out a bit at the cost if making all your backlighting decay a little (it won't be noticeable, but that is the effect).
There are apps that claim to fix burn in with good reviews on google play. Whether they actually work I not I've no idea.
vinicius.rodsilva said:
Hello people,
Well, like the title says... I'm having the screen burn-in problem on my Pixel.
It's not affecting only the navigation and notification bars, but some icons and widgets from home screen too.
Is there a way to fix it or minimize it? I tried inverting colors and decreasing the screen brightness, it seems to improve it, but the "ghosts" are still there, even though they are visible mostly on white or grey screens.
It's very disappointing, I don't know what to do. There are some "burn in fixer" apps, but they basically invert the colors too, but I've read that they actually burns all the other pixels. Is it harmful to use them?
Thanks!
Vinicius
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Screen burn in is a part of OLED displays and it is actual wear of the organic light emitting diode...unfortunately there isn't really a way to fix it but to burn everything else in equally (but the output in general will decrease). The higher the intensity (brighter the screen) the faster it happens.
Unpopular opinion, but I prefer LCD's for this reason (no burn in, flatter power efficiency curve).
I've replaced the screen. Bought a new one from eBay. It is great now! Unfortunatelly it was the only thing to do, and thankfully the Pixel has a great building, you can easily replace the screen without disassemble
the whole device.
vinicius.rodsilva said:
I've replaced the screen. Bought a new one from eBay. It is great now! Unfortunatelly it was the only thing to do, and thankfully the Pixel has a great building, you can easily replace the screen without disassemble
the whole device.
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How did you replace the screen and how expensive was it?
About 100 USD. There's a lot of videos on youtube teaching how to replace it
I noticed two light blue stains on the center of the display and around the fingerprint sensor. Very light, visible only at certain angles but noticeable especially when reading with white background (Facebook posts for example). Does anyone have a similar issue?
Pretty sure those are the under screen sensors
I sure hope so. Because I'd hate for them to spread Guess I'll have to get used to it, a bit annoying but it'll be fine. Thank you for your answer!
Stix96 said:
I sure hope so. Because I'd hate for them to spread Guess I'll have to get used to it, a bit annoying but it'll be fine. Thank you for your answer!
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last blue stain i had on a display where on my Nexus 7 2nd Gen (IPS display), Google replace the tablet without bothering because it was spreading. However, the OLED screen is another technology so I don't know. Maybe you should wait and see if it spread or not. I didn't experiencing anything like this on my unit.