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With Stamina Mode on, the battery is decent. My question is,
1) if I have it on 24/7 forever, will it harm the Z3 alot?
2) if I keep using it with screen on like playing games and have the stamina mode on, will battery goes even faster then its not on?
3) what about the ultimate Stamina mode?
I'm also wondering about that. Hope someone will post here some information.
wingod513 said:
With Stamina Mode on, the battery is decent. My question is,
1) if I have it on 24/7 forever, will it harm the Z3 alot?
2) if I keep using it with screen on like playing games and have the stamina mode on, will battery goes even faster then its not on?
3) what about the ultimate Stamina mode?
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1) No, it won't harm the Z3 at all.
2) Stamina mode, if you set it up for extended usage will limit the performance which you may, or may not notice when playing games. Battery drain will be less than without Stamina mode.
3) What about it? With it on your data connections are gone, Calls and SMS are your only communication mediums available, and a limited selection of basic apps (Calendar, Clcock, Album, FM Radio, Calculator) and the Camera. This of course rules out gaming.
Phil
Ultra Stamina Mode is usually for when your battery hits the 10-15% mark and you need extra juice for the next few hours. As mentioned there is no data so only calls and SMS.
So ultra stamina is like in aeroplane mode. No wifi/bluetooth as well?
STAMINA mode effect can be seen only when screen is off.
I will quote sony
When the screen is off, in order to save battery life, WIFI and mobile data will be temporarily disabled, and most applications will be inactive.
When the screen is ON, your phone will function normally.
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So that means, when screen is ON, stamina dosent do anything. Your phone will act like there is no stamina mode at all.
Here is information about Queue background data
Another new and important power management feature is the Queue background data* functionality, which minimises the number of network connection attempts when the screen is off. By queuing and releasing all network requests at set intervals of 15 minutes, the time spent in the connected radio state is minimised and the battery life is increased. When Stamina Mode is enabled, the Queue background data will only queue the connections for white listed applications, since all other applications are already blocked from using network connections.
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Ultra stamina mode
Ultra Stamina mode disabling all but phone, messaging, calendar and camera functions.
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Hope it clear out for you guys a little bit.
I have problems with Stamina Mode. It doesn't work for majority of the apps. Meaning, even if I don't whitelist an app in the stamina mode, their notifications shows up and they send/receive data: Pushbullet, Gmail, Twitter are only few examples.
Is this the case for any of you?
Can you post screenshot of your configuration so i can tell you more.
electrash said:
Can you post screenshot of your configuration so i can tell you more.
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Sure there you go:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz5mgqubce8ohzg/Screenshot_2014-10-03-20-04-22.png?dl=0
and https://www.dropbox.com/s/1tykstb759e2rs8/Screenshot_2014-10-03-20-04-28.png?dl=0
henihazbay said:
Sure there you go:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz5mgqubce8ohzg/Screenshot_2014-10-03-20-04-22.png?dl=0
and https://www.dropbox.com/s/1tykstb759e2rs8/Screenshot_2014-10-03-20-04-28.png?dl=0
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Based on this, everything should work fine. Only two apps are allowed, and this too check for notification every 15min while screen is off.
I dont know what cause the problem :/.
Also, remember when you put your phone to charger, stamina is disabled while charging.
Yeah and I can't be the only one
First I thought the problem might be due to light flow app but disabled that and tried without that and result is the same.
(Should I have uninstalled, not sure but I just disabled light flow when testing)
Just out of curiosity, is there anyway to auto trigger stamina mode without rooting the phone?
Shudder123 said:
Just out of curiosity, is there anyway to auto trigger stamina mode without rooting the phone?
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Turn on Stamina Mode, and you can set what percentage of battery it activates at.
Sony xperia Z3 Dual D6633 Android 5.0.2 Build 23.1.1.E.0.1
Hi there,
Upgraded my Z3 to lollipop last week and, despite the fact that the upgrade itself was flawless, I think I went from a device that used to work like a charm to one full of annoyances.
On day #1, noticed the batt drain skyrocket. 3h after disconnecting it, it was at 68%, half way through the morning. WTF? was my first thought. On a typical day on kitkat, I was able to end the day at 40% at least.
The second thing I´ve noticed was the phone app. It starts giving me errors, saying that the "network could not be reached" when I try to dial a number. If I insist for 4, 5 more times, it crashes. Dialing is only possible again if I reset the phone.
The third thing is the lock screen. It seems that lollipop has a drop down menu that makes it possible to enable/disable lots of things, like communications and even setting the phone in airplane mode. Imho that´s a huge liability / security risk and it appears that there is no way around that.
Still about the lock screen, it seems to have a bug: if you have any activesync account setup, not notifications will show up, no matter how you configure it (to show all or hide sensitive content).
So, I had only one thing to do, after reading forums etc... factory reseting it.
Surprise! All problems are still there.
Does any1 have any tips on those?
Thanks in advance.
There will be a widget on one of the screens which keeps refreshing itself and I found that to be the battery killer on my 6603.
Did you use any specific app to pinpoint the culprit?
1. It is possible that the battery levels are calibrating and will be imprecise for a while after the update, using the device normally for a couple of days will fix it, or at least this is what I observed in many phones I owned.
2. This is very weird and I can't help you with. If not even factory reset did help you may have some corrupted data on one of your contacts maybe? Try to make a thread about this issue on the Sony forum.
3. I noticed that as well, but even on pervious versions you could turn off the phone so I don't think it changes anything. Make sure to disable the multi user options that would allowanyone to add a new user from the lock screen.
4. Another weird thing, I use exchange accounts on my phone and I don't have any problem on mine. See point 2.
Under
settings>sound and notifications>when device is locked
Set to hide sensitive notification content or don't show notification content at all.
This should fix lock screen displaying email notifications from your exchange account.
Also, unlock phone, pull down notifications, pull down again to reveal quick settings, hit the edit button (pencil) and remove icons but clicking and holding and drawing them to the top. Unfortunately this removes them even when phone is unlocked but of your worried about unauthorised toggling of things on off its the best you can do I think.
As for battery drain, check the battery usage in
Settings>power management
Make sure stamina mode is on, toggle it off then on to make sure.
Select battery usage and check to see if any apps are using more than they should. Make sure brightness is set low but enable adaptive brightness under display settings.
ozzy lion said:
Under
settings>sound and notifications>when device is locked
Set to hide sensitive notification content or don't show notification content at all.
This should fix lock screen displaying email notifications from your exchange account.
Also, unlock phone, pull down notifications, pull down again to reveal quick settings, hit the edit button (pencil) and remove icons but clicking and holding and drawing them to the top. Unfortunately this removes them even when phone is unlocked but of your worried about unauthorised toggling of things on off its the best you can do I think.
As for battery drain, check the battery usage in
Settings>power management
Make sure stamina mode is on, toggle it off then on to make sure.
Select battery usage and check to see if any apps are using more than they should. Make sure brightness is set low but enable adaptive brightness under display settings.
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That's not a smartphone anymore, with all functions shut down and brightness low.
This phone has the best screen, use it at least 50% brightness.
I have no issues with the brightness down. It bumps up nicely in brighter conditions and will even max out in daylight. If I ever need it brighter then it's easy to boost temporarily. It's a small price to pay for nearly 24 hours of battery with 5 hours screen on time.
I never mentioned shutting down functions. The only thing I mentioned removing was the toggles that concerned the op on the quick settings. Removing mobile data and aeroplane mode from quick settings hardly cripples the device, I never use these anyway.
I don't think it very useful that there's not more customisation available here such as a complete set of separate lockscreen settings. But if all you can do is comprise then what else can you suggest?
I don't think unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom ROM is something the op wants to do.
ozzy lion said:
I have no issues with the brightness down. It bumps up nicely in brighter conditions and will even max out in daylight. If I ever need it brighter then it's easy to boost temporarily. It's a small price to pay for nearly 24 hours of battery with 5 hours screen on time.
I never mentioned shutting down functions. The only thing I mentioned removing was the toggles that concerned the op on the quick settings. Removing mobile data and aeroplane mode from quick settings hardly cripples the device, I never use these anyway.
I don't think it very useful that there's not more customisation available here such as a complete set of separate lockscreen settings. But if all you can do is comprise then what else can you suggest?
I don't think unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom ROM is something the op wants to do.
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You said stamina.
Stamina means already some functions off.
Update:
1. Batt drain
Remains without an explanation. My daily use profile is basically the same as before the update. 3PM and I am at 28%, with stamina on. I can´t recall a day, running kitkat, that I would hit the charger at night with 28% of batt remaining (and I still have 4h to go). It was always on 40% ish. GSAM is reporting that 47% of the batt drain is caused by apps and, from that, 30% is represented by android core apps + android system + kernel. I might be wrong, but I think it is related to reindexing, contact + agenda sync etc and it will probably get lower eventually (I hope!)
2. Phone App giving errors
I think I have isolated the problem. It seems to be caused by TrueCaller.
3. Lock screen
Regarding the drop down menu, It is clear now that what I think is a problem is, in fact, by design and there is no way around it without rooting. But regarding the notifications, I just removed both activesync accounts and I started getting notifications in the lock screen again. So, my guess is that there is a policy of some sort that is being interpreted by the phone as it should hide all notifications from the lock screen.
In fact, there are lots of things that got blocked / disabled because of those policies. Here is a list of things that were disabled and now appear to be working again, after the removal of the activesync accounts:
. notifications are showing again in the lock screen;
. smart lock;
. screen lock options (none, swipe, pattern);
note: I thought that I would be able to enable services in Accessibility, like LastPass or App Advisor by Norton, but it still does not work (I try to enable any of them, but pressing "ok" on the warning dialog does nothing and the only option working is "cancel").
Thinking about resetting it again...
Hi, if problems are persistant you can always downgrad software at KitKat by using FlashTool and wait Lollipop 5.1 (5.1 will probably solve many problems).
StealthNet said:
Update:
1. Batt drain
Remains without an explanation. My daily use profile is basically the same as before the update. 3PM and I am at 28%, with stamina on. I can´t recall a day, running kitkat, that I would hit the charger at night with 28% of batt remaining (and I still have 4h to go). It was always on 40% ish. GSAM is reporting that 47% of the batt drain is caused by apps and, from that, 30% is represented by android core apps + android system + kernel. I might be wrong, but I think it is related to reindexing, contact + agenda sync etc and it will probably get lower eventually (I hope!)
2. Phone App giving errors
I think I have isolated the problem. It seems to be caused by TrueCaller.
3. Lock screen
Regarding the drop down menu, It is clear now that what I think is a problem is, in fact, by design and there is no way around it without rooting. But regarding the notifications, I just removed both activesync accounts and I started getting notifications in the lock screen again. So, my guess is that there is a policy of some sort that is being interpreted by the phone as it should hide all notifications from the lock screen.
In fact, there are lots of things that got blocked / disabled because of those policies. Here is a list of things that were disabled and now appear to be working again, after the removal of the activesync accounts:
. notifications are showing again in the lock screen;
. smart lock;
. screen lock options (none, swipe, pattern);
note: I thought that I would be able to enable services in Accessibility, like LastPass or App Advisor by Norton, but it still does not work (I try to enable any of them, but pressing "ok" on the warning dialog does nothing and the only option working is "cancel").
Thinking about resetting it again...
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A new firmware version has dropped for the Z3 which I think fixes your issues with notifications.
I received it OTA yesterday, I'm running the Balkans customisation.
Thank you for the tip! I hope it does! Will keep it posted here just for the reference. I am starting to feel other "symptoms" as well, like bluetooth instability (you pair a device and it stops working, have to pair again).
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Just hit another weird thing.
I am not being able to create a new vpn connection. I am trying to use the PureVPN and IPVanish client software, but when I try to setup the conection, I receive a disclaimer, saying that my traffic might be monitored, with a "CANCEL" and "OK" options. The OK doesn´t work, only "CANCEL".
My device is encrypted and I have also noticed that I am not able to decrypt it.
Also, If I go to Accessibility and try to enable a service, the same thing happens: a disclaimer appears, saying that the service might observe my actions, with a "CANCEL" and "OK" options. The OK doesn´t work, only "CANCEL".
Any ideas?
Ok, just a quick fup: the ability to create VPNs from apps is disabled if you encrypt the phone. It seems that if you create if before encrypting, it won´t be disabled; but you wont be able to create a new vpn from an app downloaded, after encryption.
Regarding the Accessibility > Services, after a *lot* of research, I have found that Twilight was the culprit. For the reference:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79637
Here's the thing, since I sold my z2 I've been browsing around different manufacturers, but that's not too relevant, just wanting to say I have experience with Sony and stamina mode since I've owned:
Z, Z Ultra, Z2 (some others not from sony) and now Z3.
The thing is that either Stamina is now unusable when compared to what I remember on previous owned Sony phones, or there's something I'm setting up wrong...
First I know that after enabling Stamina, you can add exceptions, basically applications that will still receive notifications while Stamina mode is ON.
On my past Sony phones, this meant instant notifications, as it was expected, I guess, and I was happy with it, as I need to have gmail, calendar and some messaging app always connected.
Now onto Z3.
I see that just turning on Stamina won't let me add exceptions, and that requires extended standby to be ON too.
Ok, I turn it on and it says that it will turn off mobile data and wi-fi, and I'm like wtf how will I get notifications then? Anyway I turn it ON set my usual apps in exceptions list...and this is where the "fun" begins.
It seems like the exceptions list I set simply does not matter as I will not get any notifications if the screen is off. And I mean NO notification whatsoever. If I turn the screen on, they all appear.
So this is not like I am expecting for Stamina mode to work...does Sony really ruined this piece of software like it seems?
How is it that on my other Sony phones Stamina worked as expected: very low standby drain with notifications actually always incoming (only from apps in exceptions)? Vs this thing now, which is basically useless if you want to have some notifications still, with it turned on.
Disable the "data/Wi-Fi off when screen off" toggle, maybe?
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Disable the "data/Wi-Fi off when screen off" toggle, maybe?
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You cannot have Stamina Mode enabled without turning ON the Extended Standy mode too...which turns off the mobile/wi-fi data. Smart isn't it?
EDIT: To add to the issue, if I enable and then disable the stamina mode, it aparently stops notifications permanently for some apps...what the actual F?
I have it:
*Stamina on
*Active 100%
*Extended off
*Performance limit on
*Watch mode disabled (since extended in disabled)
Why can't you do it?
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I have it:
*Stamina on
*Active 100%
*Extended off
*Performance limit on
*Watch mode disabled (since extended in disabled)
Why can't you do it?
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Because my phone apparently won't let me.
I CANNOT, repeat, CANNOT let stamina ON without enabling extended standby. It's that simple...this thing sucks
D6603? 5.1.1 ? At least firmwarea .232? Maybe even .264?
Here's a "proof" from .200/.232/.264 at least: https://i.imgur.com/iE1iiLo.png
Licaon_Kter said:
D6603? 5.1.1 ? At least firmwarea .232? Maybe even .264?
Here's a "proof" from .200/.232/.264 at least: https://i.imgur.com/iE1iiLo.png
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Just updated with the stagefright fix build, I see what you set up there, but what is the meaning of stamina mode like that? That is just a performance reducing feature, not Stamina, it I set it up like that.
Just to add to the injury, to some apps that were in the exceptions that did not receive notifications in stamina mode (or extended mode whatevs) I had to clead cache/data for them, to actually receive notifications again AFTER disabling extended batt mode.
I cannot fathom how wrong this thing is, they basically ruined a perfectly working feature of the phone, that I actually liked/used.
Not sure how you want it to turn off the internet when screen off (as the text says it will) yet allow them to work and have notifications on time? Maybe have some at an interval ( as the other switch says) ?
Just because it did it in the old phones does not mean anything.
Oh, do you use any firewall? It needs to be whitelisted too.
In the mean time how much does a full charge hold you anyway? 2 days? Less?
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Not sure how you want it to turn off the internet when screen off (as the text says it will) yet allow them to work and have notifications on time? Maybe have some at an interval ( as the other switch says) ?
Just because it did it in the old phones does not mean anything.
Oh, do you use any firewall? It needs to be whitelisted too.
In the mean time how much does a full charge hold you anyway? 2 days? Less?
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If it was possible then? Why not anymore? Software regresses on Xperias now? Damn wrong if that's true.
I also thought there must be an interval at which notifications are being checked for whitelisted apps, but If I receive a message on whatsapp at let's say 3 o'clock it will not notify me even after 2 hours. (this happened)
Tried factory reset, firmware update, all that I could, but no go.
No firewall also, clean connection. A full charge gets me trough two days mostly, one and a half if I go insane wiht picture taking and gaming. All in all pretty good battery life, but not that amazing compared to the old Z2.
I think I need to get rid by this OCD of having features that actually work, by flashin the marshmallow concept build, at least that one doesn't have Stamina mode!
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A full charge gets me trough two days mostly, one and a half if I go insane wiht picture taking and gaming.
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That's ok.
Compare Z2 vs Z3, not sure who promised you "better" battery life on the Z3 but they lied.
Whenever I go out of range of my home wifi network and return back wifi does not connect until I turn the screen on or unlock my device. I have checked advance wifi settings and wifi is set to on even screen off. This is causing me huge data loss. I am on completely stock firmware with latest updates and android 7.0. My device model is G930FD. Also, its suffering from poor ram management. Whenever I leave an app and come back, its mostly reloaded. Especially in the facebook app. I loose all my progress in the timeline if I watch a video. This should not be the case as my phone has always about 1.5 gb ram available in device manager. I'll appreciate your advices.
Regards'
You got battery saver turned on? Cos that'll cut network connections while the screens off.
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You got battery saver turned on? Cos that'll cut network connections while the screens off.
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No
Go to wifi settings, then advanced, there is an option there
Looks like you have data saver enabled in your screenshot
Hello
It's really annoying, everytime I try to download a big file, the screen goes off and cut the network.
I checked a lot on the web, but everybody is talking of wifi. My problem is for 4g/LTE.
Even setting maximum limit for screen off (10 minutes), and touch the screen every 10 minutes. it's endind with a download aborted....
Anybody got any solution?
Thanks
Connect to charger and change settings to never sleeps.
fruity101079 said:
Hello
It's really annoying, everytime I try to download a big file, the screen goes off and cut the network.
I checked a lot on the web, but everybody is talking of wifi. My problem is for 4g/LTE.
Even setting maximum limit for screen off (10 minutes), and touch the screen every 10 minutes. it's endind with a download aborted....
Anybody got any solution?
Thanks
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Is your data saver off?
fruity101079 said:
Hello
It's really annoying, everytime I try to download a big file, the screen goes off and cut the network.
I checked a lot on the web, but everybody is talking of wifi. My problem is for 4g/LTE.
Even setting maximum limit for screen off (10 minutes), and touch the screen every 10 minutes. it's endind with a download aborted....
Anybody got any solution?
Thanks
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Settings > Developer Options > Keep Mobile Data turned on
If that doesn't work, enable the setting "Stay Awake" at the top, then connect your charger while you download on 4G, the screen will never turn off while charging that way
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Settings > Developer Options > Keep Mobile Data turned on
If that doesn't work, enable the setting "Stay Awake" at the top, then connect your charger while you download on 4G, the screen will never turn off while charging that way
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The 1st solution you gave is not exactly that. It is : keep mobile data on when wifi is active.
On the other hand, the stay awake is charge is a good solution.
Not that I think it's normal to use this kind of thing of trick , but it's working.
Ps: data saver is always off
fruity101079 said:
The 1st solution you gave is not exactly that. It is : keep mobile data on when wifi is active.
On the other hand, the stay awake is charge is a good solution.
Not that I think it's normal to use this kind of thing of trick , but it's working.
Ps: data saver is always off
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Yea more of a workaround than a solution but if it works it works
With the Mobile Data always on, if you have WiFi set to stay on while sleeping, then mobile data might also stay on with WiFi, that was my thinking
EDIT -
Check that Google Play Services > Data Usage does not have "Restrict Background Data" enabled too, that can cause this problem