Note 10.1 vs Nexus 10 (which should I get) - Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, I'll get to the point. Is the Note 10.1 stilla viable, decently fast, tablet? I really want to get the Nexus 10 for some sort of future proofing when it comes to Android updates. However, I have a Note 4, and know that I would definitely use the note taking capabilities of the Note 10.1.
So, is the Note 10.1 fairly easy to root and install custom roms?
Is the speed still up to par for modern computing?
Has anyone played around with both the N10 and Note 10.1, and have a current opinion about them.

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A few Q's about Samsungs new chip

Ok, so i was planning on buying a Note 10.1 until i heard of the new chip which has 1.7GHZ and 1080p 60fps. I want to ask you guys that do you think that Note 2 will have this or has Samsung got any other tablets coming out soon which could have this, because if i get the Note 10.1 now and Note 2 will come with the new chip by the end of the year, then i'd be quite pissed.
It depends when Samsung finalize everything for the chip (legals, tests etc) But the 10.1 has already been mass produced. The specs have also been confirmed. It is highly unlikely that on first release the 10.1 will have this chip. Maybe a variant will have it. The note 2 will almost definitely have it.
Yeah i know that Note 10.1 doesn't have it but if Note 2 has it, then i'll just wait.

[Q] Have I bought the right tab?

Hi
I've recently also bought a Samsung note 10.1 - is it worth the extra in comparison to the samsung tab 2 10 inch? I plan to keep it long term so thought the quad core would out last the dual core of the samsung tab 2. But I am now thinking i wont really need all that power?
Thanks
Manny
mannysroot said:
Hi
I've recently also bought a Samsung note 10.1 - is it worth the extra in comparison to the samsung tab 2 10 inch? I plan to keep it long term so thought the quad core would out last the dual core of the samsung tab 2. But I am now thinking i wont really need all that power?
Thanks
Manny
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The G-Tab 2 is a nice value-level tablet that's not very powerful. It's going to $279 at Costco on Black Friday. The Note is a high-end tablet that's fast and has a ton of unique features centered around productivity and creativity. If you don't need the power and additional features then yes, you should have gotten a G-Tab 2. The Nexus 10 is also fast and powerful and slots somewhere in between price wise. That probably would be a better investment for those not looking for the Note's extra benefits. I had a G-Tab I and got rid of it to get the Note primarily for the additional performance and productivity.
mannysroot said:
Hi
I've recently also bought a Samsung note 10.1 - is it worth the extra in comparison to the samsung tab 2 10 inch? I plan to keep it long term so thought the quad core would out last the dual core of the samsung tab 2. But I am now thinking i wont really need all that power?
Thanks
Manny
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Manny's Root:
Yes; you've purchased the correct tablet. Although the Tab 2 10.1 falls into a very comfortable price bracket, the hardware of the Note 10.1 more than justifies it's relative expense. While you may not feel as though your specific needs warrant a device as powerful as the Note 10.1, the Note 10.1's raw processing horsepower will leave it sitting pretty with future versions of Android for some time to come. However, the Tab 2 10.1 isn't even as powerful or as well built as it's predecessor. Because of this, I don't see the Tab 2 10.1 receiving many updates after it gets Jelly Bean. As a matter of fact, I would be really surprised if Samsung decided to update the Tab 2 10.1 to Jelly Bean 4.2. Rather, I suspect the Tab 2 10.1 will stay on Jelly Bean 4.1.* and receive only stability patches, security patches, and bugfixes thereafter. If the Tab 2 10.1 does indeed receive a Samsung update to Jelly Bean 4.2, I would expect it to be the last. With Android's hardware requirements becoming ever more stringent, it was foolish for Samsung to release a device as underpowered as the Tab 2 10.1. Furthermore, the release of the Tab 2 10.1 marks the only occasion I can remember in which the device is less powerful and/or less desireable than the device it is supposed to be replacing. The original Tab 10.1 is superior to the Tab 2 10.1 in almost every respect. In my opinion, the only thing Samsung got right with the Tab 2 10.1 is the forward-facing speakers.
So, to sum things up, if you indeed have a Note 10.1, you've made a very solid investment and you have decidedly good taste. I wish you the best. I hope you enjoy your tablet. Take care and have a good one!
Thank you,
Ed (Mister_Mxyzptlk)
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Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Manny's Root:
Furthermore, the release of the Tab 2 10.1 marks the only occasion I can remember in which the device is less powerful and/or less desireable than the device it is supposed to be replacing. The original Tab 10.1 is superior upgrade uto the Tab 2 10.1 in almost every respect
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I almost agree. yes some things were a downgrade but definitely not the processor or GPU. No it doesn't have flash for the camera. But the OMAP does hold its own, the setup is actually pretty decent and it runs circles around Tegra 2, and can be put against Tegra 3. The main problem is touchwiz; it just bogs down the system, not to unusability, but it is noticeable. Put the Jellybean on it, and it's more smooth. Put AOKP on it and it flies better than the note with ICS. Plays games real smooth also. But other than that, what comes out of the box isnt impressive compared to what was being released at the current time. Not everyone wants to hack their tablet to get a good experience though, it is expected to come with one.
Who has to hack their device to get it running right? I've been sto k since day 1 and my Note 10.1 is fast, fluid, and never shows any lag. For me, this version of touchwiz doesn't slowdown device at all. Never had any issues. Note 10.1 IS FAR superior hardware wise to tab2.
If you want a cheaper tablet that performs great, get a Nexus 7 then. Its still one of the best. If not THE BEST. All around android tablet. A very popular device with xda users and several tech sites. I'd get a Nexus 7 over tab2 anyday if price was a factor.
This tablet is awesome. The pen alone sets it apart from all others and hardware is great too. Screen resolution is the only disappointment in my opinion but I understand the wacom grid for the pen creates limitations in that regard so I can live with lower resolution in return for the awesome pen.
I had a tab 2, they are ok if you're on a budget but if you want to keep costs down a nexus 7 32gb would be a better option. 16gb just isn't enough in my opinion. The omap 440 processor in the tab 2 is getting quite old now and wasn't exactly a top of the line performer on release.
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ok so by the sounds of it stick with the galaxy note 10.1
To be honest the price difference between them was approx £65 - one of the reasons I questioned whether it was the right tab was because the screen resolution wasnt any improvement over the tab 2
thanks for the advice guys
I meant hacking tab 2, and yes it's that annoying. Try one yourself. The note 10.1 is great, fluid etc but still lags a bit on ICS. Most, if not all, is fixed with 4.1
Try pinch zooming your home screen
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fishguts said:
I almost agree. yes some things were a downgrade but definitely not the processor or GPU. No it doesn't have flash for the camera. But the OMAP does hold its own, the setup is actually pretty decent and it runs circles around Tegra 2, and can be put against Tegra 3. The main problem is touchwiz; it just bogs down the system, not to unusability, but it is noticeable. Put the Jellybean on it, and it's more smooth. Put AOKP on it and it flies better than the note with ICS. Plays games real smooth also. But other than that, what comes out of the box isnt impressive compared to what was being released at the current time. Not everyone wants to hack their tablet to get a good experience though, it is expected to come with one.
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Runs circles around the Tegra 2? WTF have you been reading?!
GTab 2 10.1 & OG GTab 10.1 Benchmarks:
http://db.tt/XhBmQA3y
Looks like it marginally beats the Tegra 2's CPU and gets spanked by the Tegra 2's GPU. I don't know what I'd call that, but I certainly wouldn't call that running circles around the Tegra 2.
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To be honest, if you have bought a tab and are asking this question then I believe you may have bought the wrong tab... I looked up both, weighed the pro's & cons and decided the note 10.1 was what I needed... If you are questioning that then either you didn't do the research or just got hung up on the extra features.
If you have the option to return with no problems and get a new tab then do so, it may be you will try the new tab and decide that the grass really was greener on the other side....
In Oz we have no such policies. What we buy we are stuck with. The only way to get our $$$ back is to sell on ebay...

Benefits of Samsung phone and tablet

I'm purchasing a galaxy note 2 from sprint next week. I am also in the market for a tablet its either the samsung note 10.1 or the ASUS infinity. Is there any benefits of having a samsung phone and tablet? The reasons why I want a infinity is for the slightly better display and battery performance, but like the S-Pen functions on the note 2. Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
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I'm purchasing a galaxy note 2 from sprint next week. I am also in the market for a tablet its either the samsung note 10.1 or the ASUS infinity. Is there any benefits of having a samsung phone and tablet? The reasons why I want a infinity is for the slightly better display and battery performance, but like the S-Pen functions on the note 2. Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
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In my opinion I believe the note 10.1 out performs the infinity and if all you want is the display get the nexus 10. I've had my note for 2 months and love it
isnt the nexus 10 have no expandable storage?
No it's not, that can be a deal breaker for some but i figure between dropbox and other cloud services it wouldn't bother me. But back to between the note and the infinity. Screen res the infinity definitely wins but hardware it's a close race. In quadrant standard (take that for what it's worth) i score consistently in the mid 5000's. When it updates to jelly bean it will be much better. (my galaxy s3 went from 5200 to 6100 with the update) i have yet to slow this thing down.
even though it is a lower res screen it still has more pixels than the ipad 2 and HD movies still look pretty stunning.
If you see some of the post in this forum there is a word that N10 has lots of issue specificly with display as far infinity is concerned it has whole list of issues which have been talked about by its owners in this as well as forum specific to infinity but when it comes to note you will find there are some issues with quality but it restricted to display only and most of the actual users (there are many who are fake owners who only citizise note) will only praise not
I agree that there are very few issues with this tablet, and if you have a note 2 then you will love having both devices so similar, it will make syncing them a breeze.
I previously had the Transformer TF101 (the original copper); this Note blows it out of the water. Sure, the display isn't on par with the Infinity's, but I got the Note because I use it for taking notes and drawing stuff. For me, I rather have the stylus over the keyboard (though I am looking for a keyboard dock of a sort) because I take notes in physics classes. However.. I'd go for the Nexus 10 if you don't need the stylus. Although this tablet has better hardware than almost everything out there (or is it just everything?), the Nexus 10 is a great price for a great tablet with a great display, and that's all you need if you don't want the stylus. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 for my phone, but I haven't noticed better syncing or whatever compared to when I used my Asus Tablet..
benefits:
- same apps for special Samsung markets
- synchronization works better on same brande devices
- special S pen application will works perfect on both device
- you need just Kies in PC (if you are using this kind of SW)
- compatibility of accesories

[Q] Should I get a Galaxy note 10.1 or the new 8.0?

I only have 8 days to decide which one I want.
I always have been atracted to 10.1 tablets the only thing it makes me wonder about getting the 8.0 is that is newer + a little bit more faster.
Can you all tell me how is the tablet? never used it.. Is it good? fast? smooth? Can be flashed to be much better?
At first I was a little bit in between ipad or samsung but I decided samsung, now I'm between theses 2
The speed difference between the Not 8 and Note 10.1 is negligible, you'll appreciate the extra real estate space afforded by the 10.1 for S Pen apps.
The spen on the Note 10.1 is what sets it apart from all other tablets. If you have no interest in using a stylus, then any of the other Galaxy Tabs will give you the same experience.
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The spen on the Note 10.1 is what sets it apart from all other tablets. If you have no interest in using a stylus, then any of the other Galaxy Tabs will give you the same experience.
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You do realize 8.0 has the S-Pen, too, right?
Sorry, I for some reason I was thinking of the Galaxy Tab.
So to the original question, I would agree with the other post about the speed being negligible. It really depends on what you are using the tablet for. I use my 10.1 for sketching, and the 10" is a good size for that.
hi
yesterday i got my 10.1 and i did see one more ie the 8 if im right this one is 8 inch then id say its is better to have a bigger screen i was using a 7inch tab and really wanted a bigger one i wasn't all that impressed with the 8 inch one so i feel did the right thing in getting the 10.1 this is just FYI on my decision to buy the 10.1
i also did see other brand in the same size but this one blew me away man yes it was way 2 costly for me but i just fel in love with it and got it and in my country(india) their was a CC offer with 9 months interest free payment yes no processing fee and no interest so i just piked it up :laugh::laugh:
and im loving it man:good::laugh::laugh:
I have to think for overall use, the Note 10.1 will trump the 8.0.
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Sorry, I for some reason I was thinking of the Galaxy Tab.
So to the original question, I would agree with the other post about the speed being negligible. It really depends on what you are using the tablet for. I use my 10.1 for sketching, and the 10" is a good size for that.
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I definetely made my mind.
I'm getting the 10.1 Galaxy note mostly 'cause the processor is almost the same as the 8 (quadcore 1,4 vs 1,6) and my main concerned: the size. I'm really excited to watch series on the tablet and with the speakers will be a very cool experience

Rooting Samsung Note 3 (if so ROM Recommendations?) vs Buying Samsung Note 5?

I'm looking to find a solution for my phone - it's a SN9000 Samsung Note 3 by Rogers, and it's been acting really nasty the last 5 months - super slow, laggy, battery life is crap (I bought new ones too!).
Now I'm debating which route I should go - do I root the Note 3? or Do I just buy a Note 5? I'm not really blown away by the Note 5 to be perfectly honest, and feel that maybe a Rom or two could significantly improve my phone's performance to what I would expect from a Note 5? - Am I off in my thinking here?
I'd love some advice on the matter!
TYA!
i got a note 3 samsung sometimes arrive at 87 degrees
,don´t know what to do what do may change for another rom what do you recomend please thanks

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