System Update After Root (Lock Bootloader) - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello Guys.. since I'm a nexus 4 user before...not familiar with this new phone want to ask if using Giefroot and successfully root my phone Can I still do a system update specially when lollipop comes..without any issues? my rooting purpose: just want to install root apps like titanium back up to uninstall bloatwares, greenify without xposed installer...

You will be notified by update center when Lollipop update is available even if your device is rooted or not, but not sure about if you will be able to install the system update or not.
I had seen some rooted devices could download the OTA but failed to install the update.
But there's nothing to worry since you can always flash the ftf file via flashtool, without wiping any of your data..

freddy1991 said:
You will be notified by update center when Lollipop update is available even if your device is rooted or not, but not sure about if you will be able to install the system update or not.
I had seen some rooted devices could download the OTA but failed to install the update.
But there's nothing to worry since you can always flash the ftf file via flashtool, without wiping any of your data..
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I can install any ftf.file right as long as it is for my device..also when ota is available the ftf. File is also release right?

kelvin99 said:
I can install any ftf.file right as long as it is for my device..also when ota is available the ftf. File is also release right?
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Yes, someone will make and upload an FTF.
In an extreme circumstance it may need Flashtool to be updated, but Androxyde will do that and push another version.
In the meantime, you can always relock your bootloader and use PCComapnion to update officially, then unlock the boot again

You can also use Xperiafirm to dowload the ftf files.

gregbradley said:
Yes, someone will make and upload an FTF.
In an extreme circumstance it may need Flashtool to be updated, but Androxyde will do that and push another version.
In the meantime, you can always relock your bootloader and use PCComapnion to update officially, then unlock the boot again
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Doesn't the root process require downgrading though? So it'd make updating through PCCompanion redundant.

3Shirts said:
Doesn't the root process require downgrading though? So it'd make updating through PCCompanion redundant.
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Not really, if you have an unlocked bootloader you can relock, upgrade, unlock, flash an insecure kernel**, flash SuperSU and you are done. no need to downgrade, that's a locked bootloader method.
**Someone will upload an advanced stock kernel within minutes of it hitting our devices, its not much of a tweak to make it insecure
(Just changing a 1 to a 0 in the right place)
Hell, they may even throw in recovery in a couple of minutes as well....

Yes but I was replying in the context of the OP who said 'using giefroot' so I assume it's the locked bootloader method he is asking about.

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How can I update my 6603 an retain root?

So I have an xperia update alert. Is there a way to update to the latest and retain my files as well as root access?
No. If you are on KitKat flash a pre-rooted Lollipop.
If you upgrade you can root only if you unlock the bootloader. It is the only way to root Lollipop directly.
There is no sense to upgrade, then downgrade to root. Do that now, since you are on KK.
In short : Do not upgrade officially, upgrade by flashing a pre-rooted Lollipop. You can do that even with an locked bootloader with Flashtool. Find an appropiate ftf.
TheTeslaCoil said:
No. If you are on KitKat flash a pre-rooted Lollipop.
If you upgrade you can root only if you unlock the bootloader. It is the only way to root Lollipop directly.
There is no sense to upgrade, then downgrade to root. Do that now, since you are on KK.
In short : Do not upgrade officially, upgrade by flashing a pre-rooted Lollipop. You can do that even with an locked bootloader with Flashtool. Find an appropiate ftf.
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I'm not on KK, Im on lollipop but I believe there's a newer version to LP for the Z3. I'm on 23.1.A.0.690
What size is it? Maybe it's not a firmware update.
It's an Xperia system update I can't pull up details about it without beginning the install process
you would have to flash a pre-rooted flashable rom to retain root, ota updates generally tend to kill root
Richy99 said:
you would have to flash a pre-rooted flashable rom to retain root, ota updates generally tend to kill root
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Thanks, I've been a little out of the game when it comes to flashing and rooting. I rooted my phone about a week ago and put lollipop on it. I assumed it would be the case that i'd have to flash the updated version I just wondered about retaining my files because i've gone through a bit of trouble debloating and tweaking the phone.
you'll most likely have to go thru that process again of debloating depending on what rom you install as it will most likely put most of the stuff you have removed back into the system
Richy99 said:
you'll most likely have to go thru that process again of debloating depending on what rom you install as it will most likely put most of the stuff you have removed back into the system
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I suppose I don't mind debating again but what can I use to make a backup of my apps and app data? to then restore once updated... are there any full proof tools?
xdayala said:
I suppose I don't mind debating again but what can I use to make a backup of my apps and app data? to then restore once updated... are there any full proof tools?
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There are loads of tools for this, probably the most well known in titanium backup

[Q] Will rooting Z3 affect the camera in anyway to make it lesser?

I want to root my Z3D device to make a complete back up but I have some concerns
some people say that rooting Z3 would affect the camera's quality, is that true?
is there a way to root the device without unlocking the bootloader?
louai rabia said:
I want to root my Z3D device to make a complete back up but I have some concerns
some people say that rooting Z3 would affect the camera's quality, is that true?
is there a way to root the device without unlocking the bootloader?
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Yes, you can root without unlocking.
And it does not affect anything, it is PLACEBO.
TheTeslaCoil said:
Yes, you can root without unlocking.
And it does not affect anything, it is PLACEBO.
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What's the method?
What are you in?
KK or L ?
TheTeslaCoil said:
What are you in?
KK or L ?
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KK
Just google 'giefroot' and follow the instructions in the OP
louai rabia said:
KK
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giefroot will do.
And do not worry, as long as you do not unlock your bootloader your good to go, safe and all functions of the phone will work 100 % as they were intended to.
gregbradley said:
Just google 'giefroot' and follow the instructions in the OP
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neither giefroot v1 nor v3 could help,
they both give me the message "Kernel not supported"
louai rabia said:
neither giefroot v1 nor v3 could help,
they both give me the message "Kernel not supported"
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You have to downgrade to the correct version so that you have a compatible kernel.
all the requirements are in the OP of the thread
gregbradley said:
You have to downgrade to the correct version so that you have a compatible kernel.
all the requirements are in the OP of the thread
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which thread? I only googled and downloaded it.
My Z3 is the dual version (6633), could it be not supported?
louai rabia said:
which thread? I only googled and downloaded it.
My Z3 is the dual version (6633), could it be not supported?
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The giefroot thread, it says you need a kernel dated pre Oct 2014, so a FTF ending in .93 will do it.
gregbradley said:
The giefroot thread, it says you need a kernel dated pre Oct 2014, so a FTF ending in .93 will do it.
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Mine ends with 96 and it's the one which came with the device (a month ago), the only update that's available for me is the Lollipop and I haven't updated yet because I want to make a full back up before upgrading because I want to make a clean flash of Lollipop and I have bricked a phone a year ago and I don't want to face the same disaster.
so, should I downgrade? how? or there's another way?
louai rabia said:
Mine ends with 96 and it's the one which came with the device (a month ago), the only update that's available for me is the Lollipop and I haven't updated yet because I want to make a full back up before upgrading because I want to make a clean flash of Lollipop and I have bricked a phone a year ago and I don't want to face the same disaster.
so, should I downgrade? how? or there's another way?
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If you want to root without unlocking the bootloader you need to downgrade.
However there is no chance of bricking the phone if you do an official update via OTA or PCComapnion if you are already on stock ROM. And you can always downgrade back if you want.
gregbradley said:
If you want to root without unlocking the bootloader you need to downgrade.
However there is no chance of bricking the phone if you do an official update via OTA or PCComapnion if you are already on stock ROM. And you can always downgrade back if you want.
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I want to flash lolipop but first I want to delete the existing KK not updating it to lolipop because I heard that if I do so, kitkat files and such things will still be in the background eating memory and battery.
how could I downgrade to .93?
louai rabia said:
I want to flash lolipop but first I want to delete the existing KK not updating it to lolipop because I heard that if I do so, kitkat files and such things will still be in the background eating memory and battery.
how could I downgrade to .93?
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There is no need to do that, I did not and everything is fine on my phone. I updated officially OTA
However, if you want to root you need to downgrade to .93 FTF.
Look in the FTF mega collection thread and download it then use flashtool from flashtool.net to flash it.
Can you answer this please. What do you want the end result to be?
1) On stock lollipop or
2) On stock lollipop with root?
gregbradley said:
If you want to root without unlocking the bootloader you need to downgrade.
However there is no chance of bricking the phone if you do an official update via OTA or PCComapnion if you are already on stock ROM. And you can always downgrade back if you want.
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Actually there is a chance to brick your device even if you flash official firmware via OTA update but not here and not on Xperia.
(Nexus7 by Asus from 2012, many device died after upgrading to LP)...
But that's not important...for this case..
@louai rabia
Buddy, if you don't neet root and recovery on LP, there's absolutely no need to root firmware you are on.
Just upgrade to LP and enjoy..
But if you need root or recovery, do what Greg just said.
Google that phrase and add "xda" (without quotes, of course) and follow first link you get...
Read opening post (OP) and you'll get it.
You have to downgrade (use flashtool and official firmware)
Root that firmware and install recovery made by our friend [NUT]
Download prerooted LP and flash it through recovery
Enjoy
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gregbradley said:
There is no need to do that, I did not and everything is fine on my phone. I updated officially OTA
However, if you want to root you need to downgrade to .93 FTF.
Look in the FTF mega collection thread and download it then use flashtool from flashtool.net to flash it.
Can you answer this please. What do you want the end result to be?
1) On stock lollipop or
2) On stock lollipop with root?
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I suppose it's a little early to decide,
I am trying to find out how to block some bloatware in my device using ADB tool (so that I wouldn't need to root), but I still can't figure out how and I am facing some difficulties (some apps I don't know what I should call them when using adb to get them blocked and some other apps I don't know their functions and if it's safe to block them).
so, let's say that if I still couldn't figure out how to use adb to block my bloatware, I guess I will then have to get a stock Lollipop with root and download titanium backup to freeze those bloatware.
louai rabia said:
I suppose it's a little early to decide,
I am trying to find out how to block some bloatware in my device using ADB tool (so that I wouldn't need to root), but I still can't figure out how and I am facing some difficulties (some apps I don't know what I should call them when using adb to get them blocked and some other apps I don't know their functions and if it's safe to block them).
so, let's say that if I still couldn't figure out how to use adb to block my bloatware, I guess I will then have to get a stock Lollipop with root and download titanium backup to freeze those bloatware.
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Well, if you do not want root you do not need to downgrade, just update and use ADB.
But like you have already been advised, it is extremely useful to have a full backup before you start disabling system apps, hence you should go for root and recovery. Then you might as well use TB to freeze apps like you said and like I have already advised you,
gregbradley said:
Well, if you do not want root you do not need to downgrade, just update and use ADB.
But like you have already been advised, it is extremely useful to have a full backup before you start disabling system apps, hence you should go for root and recovery. Then you might as well use TB to freeze apps like you said and like I have already advised you,
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I am having a problem flashing KitKat F.1.74_CE
the thread said that as long as my Z3 is the dual version, I would have to downgrade to F.1.74 to be able to root, so I downloaded it and used flashtool version 0 9 18 5 to flash. but while in the middle of the process (after deleting my phone data), the flashtool says "processing of system.sin finished with errors".
this is the error message
27/020/2015 13:20:04 - INFO - Flashing data
27/020/2015 13:20:26 - ERROR - Processing of system.sin finished with errors.
27/020/2015 13:20:26 - INFO - Ending flash session
27/020/2015 13:20:26 - ERROR - ERR_SEVERITY="MINOR";ERR_CODE="0017";ERR_DYNAMIC="80080053";
what should I do?
louai rabia said:
I am having a problem flashing KitKat F.1.74_CE
the thread said that as long as my Z3 is the dual version, I would have to downgrade to F.1.74 to be able to root, so I downloaded it and used flashtool version 0 9 18 5 to flash. but while in the middle of the process (after deleting my phone data), the flashtool says "processing of system.sin finished with errors".
this is the error message
27/020/2015 13:20:04 - INFO - Flashing data
27/020/2015 13:20:26 - ERROR - Processing of system.sin finished with errors.
27/020/2015 13:20:26 - INFO - Ending flash session
27/020/2015 13:20:26 - ERROR - ERR_SEVERITY="MINOR";ERR_CODE="0017";ERR_DYNAMIC="80080053";
what should I do?
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Re-download and try again

[?] Flash 23.1.A.1.28 OTA on rooted Z3 ? [SOLVED]

Hi all,
I have a rooted Z3 with dual recovery and locked bootloader running firmware 23.1.A.0.690.
Since the OTA to firmware 23.1.A.1.28 is minor, I was wondering if it is possible to flash an update zip file while keeping root and modified recovery.
any idea ?
thanks
benjieb said:
Hi all,
I have a rooted Z3 with dual recovery and locked bootloader running firmware 23.1.A.0.690.
Since the OTA to firmware 23.1.A.1.28 is minor, I was wondering if it is possible to flash an update zip file while keeping root and modified bootloader.
any idea ?
thanks
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Modified bootloader? Do you mean unlocked? If so then you cannot do OTA, is says so explicitly on the Sony site about unlocked bootloaders. But you can make a backup in recovery, flash a stock FTF of that version (System only) then just flash back your custom kernel (Before booting the phone) and restore data from a backup
If you mean locked bootloader then you can OTA, if its a small update then the chances are it wont format system so you will keep root, but if its a large file the chances are it will format system then re-install it so you will lose root.
Just flash a pre-rooted version of the updated ROM in recovery
Sorry, i meant keeping root and modified recovery (not bootloader).
My bootloader is locked indeed and i am on stock kernel.
So, to your point, i should be safe upgrading minor OTAs?
If so can I anticipate sony's rollout of the OTA and flash the update zip? And where can it be found?
Thx
benjieb said:
Sorry, i meant keeping root and modified recovery (not bootloader).
My bootloader is locked indeed and i am on stock kernel.
So, to your point, i should be safe upgrading minor OTAs?
If so can I anticipate sony's rollout of the OTA and flash the update zip? And where can it be found?
Thx
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Maybe.... it all depends on whether or not the OTA formats system and reinstalls it. If it a minor update they may not do that so root and recovery (Which is in system for locked bootloaders) are not deleted.
Its a gamble...
to be 100% safe, you will need to get a prerooted flashable zip and flash it
Hmmm... Ok, but upgrading with a prerooted zip involves flashing a full rom not just the update right?
I am ok with that but would rather save the hassle.
Thanks for the advise
Hi,
Happy to report back that OTA process went smooth.
I am now running 23.1.A.1.28 and still have full root & dual recovery!
benjieb said:
Hi,
Happy to report back that OTA process went smooth.
I am not running 23.1.A.1.28 and still have full root & dual recovery!
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Benjieb,
Sorry friend but it was not clear to me... you updated via OTA and keep the root?
Yes that's right. I fixed the typo in my last post.
benjieb said:
Yes that's right. I fixed the typo in my last post.
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How do you do it? I mean,you were stock .690 berofe ota?you delete anything of stocks apps??because i test to do the ota update but at the end of processus it's says "verrification impossible" and i saw somewhere that's if we touch or delete stock apps we can't ota ....ans if possible,nobody van do a flashable ZIP with just ota update????
I was stock indeed, and you are right playing with system apps probably prevent OTAs.
That's why I deactivate system apps rather then delete them.
I guess you will have to do a full rom flash.
I'm on stock ROM rooted. Updated to. 28 via OTA just only. Root access still available!!
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No possible to create a flashable ZIP with just ota update???it will be wonderfull
I believe this is just minor update. So lucky for me haha
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[Q] Help with installing lollipop on unlocked phone

Hello !
I recently bought a used Z3 6603, and wanted to update it to lollipop.
But it seems it has a unlocked bootloader (according to service menu) and when i recieved it, it was factory reset, but some 3rd party apps were still installed.
One of them Super SU, so it was rooted.
I was told that i could update the firmware if i just used the Full Uninstall feature in Super Su, so i did that.
I still can't update using sony companion, becouse it knows the software is not the original one.
And i cant reinstall super su, its saying that there is no SU binary installed and the program cant install it.
I have flashed phones before, but it was really a long time ago, so im asking for some help to fix this.
Its running 4.4.4 build 23.0.1.A.5.77 and stock rom i think.
Please tell me what to do, and what info you might need !
I want to have the phone in lollipop, but everything stock, no root, no bootloader etc.
And somewhere I read something about DRM keys. Please help me with fixing that aswell thank you.
Regards ImmoralCore
ImmoralCore said:
Hello !
I recently bought a used Z3 6603, and wanted to update it to lollipop.
But it seems it has a unlocked bootloader (according to service menu) and when i recieved it, it was factory reset, but some 3rd party apps were still installed.
One of them Super SU, so it was rooted.
I was told that i could update the firmware if i just used the Full Uninstall feature in Super Su, so i did that.
I still can't update using sony companion, becouse it knows the software is not the original one.
And i cant reinstall super su, its saying that there is no SU binary installed and the program cant install it.
I have flashed phones before, but it was really a long time ago, so im asking for some help to fix this.
Its running 4.4.4 build 23.0.1.A.5.77 and stock rom i think.
Please tell me what to do, and what info you might need !
I want to have the phone in lollipop, but everything stock, no root, no bootloader etc.
And somewhere I read something about DRM keys. Please help me with fixing that aswell thank you.
Regards ImmoralCore
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Your DRM keys are lost forever.
TheTeslaCoil said:
Your DRM keys are lost forever.
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Ok, so they are lost even if I use the first backup that was made by the person I bought it from ?
DRM=Hardcoded=Once unlocked, always DRM free, even if you use the recovery image ?
And the rest of the questions, what am I supposed to do to get stock lollipop?
In the matter of fact it does not matter if its unlocked or locked, I just want legit lollipop, with the possibility to update regularly. (But if root is possible at the same, it can still be rooted)
Thanks for your reply !
You need the TA backup. Not system backup.
And careful not to restore some other TA.
If the previous owner backed up TA, good. If not, no chance to recover them.
Download your specific firmware in ftf format and flash it with Flashtool.
Make a clean install.
You cannot recieve OTA with an unlocked bootloader, only if you relock, but there is no point in doing that if the DRM keys are lost.
So, from where you stand, keep it rooted and unlocked, because you can do much more with it : Custom ROM' s [at the moment stock is best]...custom kernels with recovery...mods...etc.
After you flash the ftf, flash via adb a custom kernel with recovery and from recovery flash SuperSU update, as a flashable zip, that will root the phone and install SuperSU.Search also for busybox flashable zip.
TheTeslaCoil said:
You need the TA backup. Not system backup.
And careful not to restore some other TA.
If the previous owner backed up TA, good. If not, no chance to recover them.
Download your specific firmware in ftf format and flash it with Flashtool.
Make a clean install.
You cannot recieve OTA with an unlocked bootloader, only if you relock, but there is no point in doing that if the DRM keys are lost.
So, from where you stand, keep it rooted and unlocked, because you can do much more with it : Custom ROM' s [at the moment stock is best]...custom kernels with recovery...mods...etc.
After you flash the ftf, flash via adb a custom kernel with recovery and from recovery flash SuperSU update, as a flashable zip, that will root the phone and install SuperSU.Search also for busybox flashable zip.
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Ok, I will try that then, but if I use flashtool to update to lollipop, will I still be able to root easy, or should I reinstall 4.4.4 clean, then root, fix recovery kernel and everything, and then lollipop or what goes first?
Does flash/kernel etc affect the fact that it has an unlocked bootloader ? do i need to do anything with that, or do it stay unlocked?
ImmoralCore said:
Ok, I will try that then, but if I use flashtool to update to lollipop, will I still be able to root easy, or should I reinstall 4.4.4 clean, then root, fix recovery kernel and everything, and then lollipop or what goes first?
Does flash/kernel etc affect the fact that it has an unlocked bootloader ? do i need to do anything with that, or do it stay unlocked?
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If you have unlocked the bootloader it is always a trivial matter to root.
Just flash an insecure kernel.
If one does not exist use [NUT]'s online kernel builder to make one with recovery incorporated in it. Its very straightforward and an automated process.
So, update using flashtool, flash your custom kernel, and you have root and recovery.
gregbradley said:
If you have unlocked the bootloader it is always a trivial matter to root.
Just flash an insecure kernel.
If one does not exist use [NUT]'s online kernel builder to make one with recovery incorporated in it. Its very straightforward and an automated process.
So, update using flashtool, flash your custom kernel, and you have root and recovery.
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1. Sorry for my noobish question, but define insecure kernel?
2. Did I get it right? I read about ppl downgrading their phones to 4.4.4 and then installing stuff. And for me it does not matter wich version it is, becouse the unlocked bootloader makes it easy to flash, even what version you are running?
ImmoralCore said:
1. Sorry for my noobish question, but define insecure kernel?
2. Did I get it right? I read about ppl downgrading their phones to 4.4.4 and then installing stuff. And for me it does not matter wich version it is, becouse the unlocked bootloader makes it easy to flash, even what version you are running?
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1) a rooted kernel.
2) If you have unlocked there is no need to follow any of the locked bootloader guides, they are a waste of your time. One of the points point of unlocking the phone is to easily get root. You just flash a custom kernel to gain root.
If you have a locked bootloader then you have to go through all the fuss of downgrading etc etc.... but with an unlocked bootloader its so easy and straightforward
gregbradley said:
1) a rooted kernel.
2) If you have unlocked there is no need to follow any of the locked bootloader guides, they are a waste of your time. One of the points point of unlocking the phone is to easily get root. You just flash a custom kernel to gain root.
If you have a locked bootloader then you have to go through all the fuss of downgrading etc etc.... but with an unlocked bootloader its so easy and straightforward
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Ok, thank you very much for your answers both of you!
I understand everything much better, now its just some flashing to do, c ya ! :good:
ImmoralCore said:
Ok, thank you very much for your answers both of you!
I understand everything much better, now its just some flashing to do, c ya ! :good:
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Good luck.

Unlock/Root/TWRP OTA updates?

I've only had two phones prior to this but I have always unlocked the boot loader / rooted the device / installed a custom recovery / installed custom ROMS.
I believe with my MOTO X 1st gen this disabled the OTA updates.
Is that the case with the Honor 8? I'm wondering if it is worth it to install TWRP at this point as there seems to be so little in the way of kernels and ROMS.
Would I still be able to use SU or Xposed modules without Root?
What is the best move with this phone?
I have unlocked my bootloader as well as rooted my Honor 8. The only way to get SU and Xposed is by doing both of these procedures(root involves getting TWRP).
As for any Xposed modules, I tried amplify+greenify but instead of getting better battery life, my standby time decreased significantly. I am not sure why, but for some reason my Cell standby was showing to be eating a ton of my battery. Another big problem was that the dialer app would not let me call anyone, it kept crashing whenever I tried to. Both problems were fixed after I managed to get amplify+greenify uninstalled. Currently I am just running YouTube AdAway and MinMinGuard which seem to work fine.
So at this point, is it worth unlocking bootleader, installing TWRP, and rooting your phone? Well if there are certain Xposed modules that you really want then sure, and if there are certain apps you like that require root, then yes go ahead and root your phone. Note that if you try any OTA updates, you will have to remove TWRP as having your phone automatically restart and try to install the update wont work.
Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
pairustwo said:
Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
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It doesnt matter whether or not your phone is rooted. You will get updates the same way, through OTA. Of course you can find .zip files to flash(although personally I am struggling to get the latest update flashed through TWRP).
The real question is for how long will we be receiving updates? Nougat is pretty much guaranteed with the new EMUI update. Huawei/Honor has promised up to 2 years of updates from what I have heard, but who knows what that actually means. They have also have a "partnership" with XDA, and the phone is decently popular so I am sure there will be a few roms, just not as many as say a OP3.
Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
pairustwo said:
Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
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Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
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Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
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I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
Nas42O said:
I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
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Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
Nas42O said:
Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
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The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
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The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
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its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
Nas42O said:
its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
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No I am in the US. I am not sure about the EU version, but yes if you can find a .zip update file just put it on your phone and go into TWRP to install it. Might wanna make a backup too and wipe cache too just in case.
So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
Palindrom87 said:
So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
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Updating or wiping your phone does not lock the Bootloader. The only way to lock the Bootloader again is by doing it manually yourself.
Yes after doing a full update you will need to reinstall TWRP as it will be replaced with the stock recovery and then re-root your phone again.
Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
pairustwo said:
Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
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Seeing as how the full update package was ~1.65GB in size, I think its ok to assume that it replaces everything with the stock Honor 8 image. So yes it will replace the kernel too.
For downloading full updates, the only way I got mine was an OTA directly from the phone itself. Look at my previous comments to see how I got this update. If for some reason you cant update, check if your model is ready for an update. If it is and you cant update, try to flash back to a stock image. You should be able to find one on this site or anywhere else.
Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
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Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
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No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
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No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
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I thought the same thing, but after taking the full OTA update my bootloader was locked again. If you want to update I would suggest first making a full backup to the external SD card in TWRP.
Then , its better to download à full update ( update.zip) ,copy to root of the phone , reboot in twrp and flash it ? Anyone already did it ?

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