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I thought I would like to share with others my findings about the USB cable issues and the charging issues also reviewing few products.
I know that it would probably be best with some real table lab equipment but I have tested it with a usb multimeter device : PortaPow USB Power Monitor / Multimeter / DC Ammeter
Showing me Amps and volts.
It is true what is said that the device can detect to a degree the charger
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53917336
So I used combo of software and hardware testing. I also tested with a S3 and S4 rooted (custom roms), and nexus 7 2013 (unique to this charger that it specs the 5v at 5.2! @ 1.35A and it does push more, to other devise as well)
Not all cables are equal; even not all OEM will work past 1A. It seems that most OEM’s cheat by using a shorter micro USB cable to get better charging results, this is the question many ask why so short cables, the OEM’s are only now slowly moving to thicker power wires IE 28/24 in there OEM usb cables.
Now my findings about the PortaPow USB Power monitor and any of the kind, is that it seems to effect the charging Amps of the device and also effect any smart chargers (will talk about below)
In the past I used to use exclusively the “Battery Monitor Widget” by 3c, lately I went and got also “Galaxy Charging Current Lite” for whatever reason my S3 shows as incompatible? Thought it should work on it, my S4 installed and shows max and reference/average
Test 1: S3 Genuine 100% OEM cable (I know because I bought the S3 new @ t-mobile)
Test 2: Claimed Genuine Samsung Micro USB cable 5 feet ECC1DU6BBE
Test 3: Nexus 7 2013 usb cable (is claimed to be a 28/24 AWG)
I was skeptical about the Claimed Genuine cable, and though it looks and feels just like the real thing, it varies in the logo and length. Performance wise has shown consistently of a 0.1-0.15A lower than the Genuine Samsung cable that I have from S3. This was done with the USB power monitor and with the Galaxy Charging Current Lite app, it even said 860mAh vs 760mAh when I tested the cables, but genuine cable did push up more power and the software was wrong as I have seen over 1.13A with USB Power monitor, but as said the real Genuine cable was better.
The Nexus 7 2013 micro USB cable that is short, performed the best, gave the max Amps out of all the cables. I will test my Monoprice 28/24 cables and update this thread.
Quick tests of chargers:
Car charger form Amazon,
PowerGen White Dual USB 4.2A (20W) Car charger Designed for Apple and Android Devices
I quickly tested to see if this thing will push past 1A and it did at the time I was testing with nexus 7 and its cable with the usb power meter, and It was pulling around 1.13A
Next up single wall charger, I saw this and had to buy!
Blackberry Folding Blade Charger for Playbook rated at 5v @ 1.8A! priced under $5!!!
I tested this one with the software on my S4, it quickly showed after few min pulling 1.4A and Galaxy charger showed maxed out 1900 on all!
I think this one wins for the cheapest and sturdy charger, just shy of 2A!, will become my work charger, the cable is nice and thick along with pretty good length 6ft+!
Next up I had to get me a family charger (4-5 port)
I get tired of short cables on wall chargers, so I went and got
Anker® 40W USB Desktop Charger
This charger claims a total of 40w for 5 ports! With intelligent device detection PowerIQ.
This charger so far (1 day use) has been great, I connected the S3 and the power meter showed 1A, I connected the S4 with the meter and was only getting 1.13-1.3A, the software did not show max, so here is the issue seems the usb monitor will cause the charger to not read the devices to there 100%, after taking it out and connecting it directly the galaxy charger showed maxed 1900mAh
The USB cable used was the nexus 7 one.
What I love about this charger, no lights! Perfect for me for overnight charging, also has standard power cord, the unit itself is quite compact too, now I can have short usb cables 1.5ft or 3ft ones and not worry about reach, as the charger can stay next to your devices, simply use conventional power cable extender on the charger unit, not on your usb devices!
I will conclude that it seems now since we are pushing past the usb spec for charging, that the shortest cable is best, be it 28 awg or 24 awg, and of course OEM’s already knew that, I am pretty sure that the OEMs are switching to 28/24 awg cables
Links:
PortaPow USB Power Monitor / Multimeter / DC Ammeter
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DF2485S/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Samsung ECC1DU6BBE 5-Feet Micro USB Charging Data Cable - Original OEM - Non-Retail Packaging
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DVBB0XQ/ref=oh_details_o01_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Anker® 40W USB Desktop Charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTGETFG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Blackberry Folding Blade Charger for Playbook (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OZMWUS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
PowerGen White Dual USB 4.2A (20W) Car charger Designed for Apple and Android Devices
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088U6OZY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
if people are interested, I can designate some time and take few pics of the monoprice cables, and show why they fail, its obvious but need a good pic to show the reason, maybe we can find a way to fix them?
the cables are great, the connectors look great at first but are not so great
I just ordered the Anker 40W USB Desktop Charger on Amazon with same day shipping for $5.99. Thanks for your review!
been using the Blackberry Folding Blade Charger for awhile now. indeed the closet and fastest ul get to the original charger
it can be had on ebay 2 for 4.99
kinubic said:
been using the Blackberry Folding Blade Charger for awhile now. indeed the closet and fastest ul get to the original charger
it can be had on ebay 2 for 4.99
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I could not find 2 for 4.99 I did find 2 for 8 or so... are you sure its the "Blackberry Folding Blade Charger for Playbook" this one is specifically 1.8A
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-New-OEM-...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item58afbd2941
looks like Amazon still is selling them as well
drutort said:
I could not find 2 for 4.99 I did find 2 for 8 or so... are you sure its the "Blackberry Folding Blade Charger for Playbook" this one is specifically 1.8A
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-New-OEM-...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item58afbd2941
looks like Amazon still is selling them as well
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yes the seller is mobilepros1
just checked his store seems his not selling it anymore
not sure if u can see this but this was the listing
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=221456227839&view=all&tid=1395101280012
kinubic said:
yes the seller is mobilepros1
just checked his store seems his not selling it anymore
not sure if u can see this but this was the listing
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=221456227839&view=all&tid=1395101280012
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ah yes I searched item#221456227839
that was even better bargain heh
the USB cable is as important as the plug. I use an ANKER 4-port plug with a factory S4 cable. It runs at 1900, same as if I used the factory S4 plug. I ran a whole experiment too. I had a USB cable IDENTICAL to my S$ cable, and it only charged at 320 with the same ANKER or S4 plugs. My S4 has a popup telling me to use a better charger
If you have a Nexus 6, Moto X, Galaxy Note 4, or any other Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 compliant phone or tablet, you need a high output “Super Charger” like this one to get the full charging speed that those devices are capable of. On my new Nexus 6, this charger took me from 30% to 92% in 30 minutes of charging!
Pros:
+ Fast and powerful.
+ It runs silently.
+ Good quality build, including a nice quality cable and plug.
+ Quick Charge 2.0 compatible.
Cons:
- Bulkier and heavier than most chargers.
- The LED light is much brighter than it needs to be.
- The prongs don’t collapse, so they are at risk of getting bent in your laptop case or bag.
This Onite 3.0A is well made and very powerful. I strongly recommend you get this or another 3A charger like this if you have a Quick Charge 2.0 compatible phone or tablet. I received mine for free, to review, but am very happy with it.
amazon.com/dp/B00KQH4J6S
MagStar515 said:
If you have a Nexus 6, Moto X, Galaxy Note 4, or any other Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 compliant phone or tablet, you need a high output “Super Charger” like this one to get the full charging speed that those devices are capable of. On my new Nexus 6, this charger took me from 30% to 92% in 30 minutes of charging!
Pros:
+ Fast and powerful.
+ It runs silently.
+ Good quality build, including a nice quality cable and plug.
+ Quick Charge 2.0 compatible.
Cons:
- Bulkier and heavier than most chargers.
- The LED light is much brighter than it needs to be.
- The prongs don’t collapse, so they are at risk of getting bent in your laptop case or bag.
This Onite 3.0A is well made and very powerful. I strongly recommend you get this or another 3A charger like this if you have a Quick Charge 2.0 compatible phone or tablet. I received mine for free, to review, but am very happy with it.
amazon.com/dp/B00KQH4J6S
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did you just join to post this?
MagStar515 said:
+ It runs silently.
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Am I missing something. I'm not using the "quick charger" that came with the Note 4, but shouldn't chargers ALWAYS run silently?
Thats not a quick charge 2.0 charger, the quick charge chargers use 9v's to charge instead of 5v's
LancerV said:
Thats not a quick charge 2.0 charger, the quick charge chargers use 9v's to charge instead of 5v's
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this is correct, 9V instead of 5V
raiu said:
did you just join to post this?
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Wonder if he'll reply....
Only the following devices have been certified so far
Motorola Turbo Charger
Xiaomi MDY-3-EB
KDDI AU AC Adapter
NTT DOCOMO AC Adapter
Puregear Wall Charger
Powermod Car Charger
Power PartnersAC Adapter
Ventev dashport q1200
Verus World Charger
Puregear Car Charger
Ventev wallport q1200
Incipio USB Car Charger
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Wonder if he'll reply....
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Spammer. He doesn't even know the technology enough to be a reviewer.
note 4 charger（quick charger） is 9v,1.67A instead of 5V
note 4 quick charger is 9v, 1.67A. Though 5V 2.0A is also OK, while no quick.
Considering 5V 3A, maybe it is faster than 2A. But the IC will prevent from higher current.
I actually ordered and tested this charger. It seems as fast as my other 2 Amp chargers. All of the reviews of this charger on Amazon are from other people who've been given samples from the seller. Don't waste your money on this charger.
I'd never buy anything from Onite. Spam threads from them, like this one, seem to pop up quite often.
Any good powerbank out there. At least a 10000 mah above.
To be able to use fast charging feature in Note 4.
Actually that sounds like it would be really cool if it exists, I'd also be interested in knowing if there's a powerbank that supports quick charge. I've held off on picking up a powerbank for a while now, but if something like this is even possible it would probably get me interested, it'd be pretty awesome to be able to just plug in to a backup battery and have it charge up the phone with quickcharge speed ;P I wouldn't be surprised to find out it's not possible though... Anyone know?
Think the dual voltage 5 and 9 volt needed for quickcharge wil be a problem to design a powerbank with a feature like that. I don't say it's impossible but probably won't be cheap or small formfacfor
Yea. Is cool if fast charge powerbank then bring out to fast charge note 4. Lol.
There is this compact power bank (and it supports quick charging itself within 3 hours - via 2.1A input - at least on paper)
APE MP5200Q on Alibaba (not aliexpress)
Weight: 132g
Input: 5V/2.2A
Outport: 5V/3.5A,9V/1.5A,12V/1.5A
3 output ports: 2 USB ports and 1 built-in micro USB cable
Over-charge/discharge, over-current,short protection
Quick Charge output port: output 9V/1.5A or 12V/1.5A on Quick Charge state
Battery Cell type: Samsung Li-ion 18650
Quick charge 2.0: Class A
and it looks good too!
the only missing thing to make it a perfect power bank, would be 15W wireless charging capability...
Please everyone do say what Power bank you have
& how much time does it take to fully charge a Drained battery
So we know which charges how many times, Once or twice or more ....
Thank you all
I have aukey quick charge the silver 10400mah model its charge lg g4 same as qc2.0 wall charger I have mah meter
I also have an aukey but the PB-T2 model 12000mAh. Have quick charge USB outlet and also a normal 1A USB outlet. Has a 2A microusb input for charging an a so-so LED light built in. A bit heavy and slightly longer than the Note 4 in size. Cons: I would have preferred a 2.1A instead of the 1A USB outlet for fast charging other non quick charge devices.
yosef019 said:
I have aukey quick charge the silver 10400mah model its charge lg g4 same as qc2.0 wall charger I have mah meter
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As above Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 external battery packs are pretty good. They do them in different sizes and go above 10000mah
BlitzWolf looks good.
banggood.com are doing pre order, to be sent out 20th November.
From a store rep..
We use the newer chip FP6600 that not only supports QC but also standard fast charging, the Aukey does charge at QC speeds with their THY100 but will not fast charge other devices such as your iPhone at fast speeds. BlitzWolf's newer IC provides compatibility beyond just QC devices. The battery of the BlitzWolf is is LG and also of a higher standard than Aukeys domestic Chinese brand batteries. In terms of safety and compatibility this is one step ahead of Aukeys 6 month old version.
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Use coupon "12blitzw" for 12% off.. (Don't know when it ends)
I am using Aukey Power Bank with 15000maH.
Supports Quick Charge and PowerBank itself charges as Quick Charging.
jianrong said:
Any good powerbank out there. At least a 10000 mah above.
To be able to use fast charging feature in Note 4.
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Hmm... we have Note 4's a removable battery is more compact and supports quick charge. Just have to get a battery charger that supports it. There would also be less power loss because it would be more efficient than transferring energy from one battery to another. Just my opinion.
I just bought iVoler car charger to try it because the price was low and the reviews said it was quality made. I Just received this the other day, and I plugged in my Note 4 and it said Note 4 detected, so it indeed does support the Qualcomm Quick Charging feature! Charging was fast and held strong with my Note 4. Charging the battery from 0 to 50% in about 30 minutes. And the 6 foot USB cable is of good quality and really nice. It also fits into my Note 4 with a nice click, and fits well around my case. I will definitely buy more of these!
The great product need to be shared.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-iVoler-Adaptive-Qualcomm-Motorola/dp/B00TDC0WJA/
david870325 said:
I just bought iVoler car charger to try it because the price was low and the reviews said it was quality made. I Just received this the other day, and I plugged in my Note 4 and it said Note 4 detected, so it indeed does support the Qualcomm Quick Charging feature! Charging was fast and held strong with my Note 4. Charging the battery from 0 to 50% in about 30 minutes. And the 6 foot USB cable is of good quality and really nice. It also fits into my Note 4 with a nice click, and fits well around my case. I will definitely buy more of these!
The great product need to be shared.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-iVoler-Adaptive-Qualcomm-Motorola/dp/B00TDC0WJA/
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The charger talks to you or has a display?
FWIW the N4 doesn't use Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 technology, it uses Samsung's Fast Charge technology but it is compatible w/ Qualcomm 2.0 Quick Charge certified 12v adapters. I have an Incipio 2.0 Quick Charge certified 12v adapter that worked perfectly on Kit Kat but doesn't Fast Charge (only regular charging) after the Lollipoop update.
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Lol, I thought the same thing. I assume he meant Fast Charge detected, though, not Note 4
E+ is big move from my s4, looks like i need to update my car charger so support e+, can someone help here with your experience with Note or other for fast charging
Thnaks
prashant.saraf said:
E+ is big move from my s4, looks like i need to update my car charger so support e+, can someone help here with your experience with Note or other for fast charging
Thnaks
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This one is good : [Qualcomm Certified] Tronsmart® Quick Charge 2.0 18W USB Car Charger
Opt among 1 output, 2 output or 3 output. However, please note that only 1 output port supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0. Rest 2 are fast, however, not QC 2.0 Fast.:good:
what is it i need one ?
Check slickdeals. I've been using the $5 one (on sale). It outputs 12v so it charges the phone very fast.
apurva.giri said:
This one is good : [Qualcomm Certified] Tronsmart® Quick Charge 2.0 18W USB Car Charger
Opt among 1 output, 2 output or 3 output. However, please note that only 1 output port supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0. Rest 2 are fast, however, not QC 2.0 Fast.:good:
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Thanks for that. slick deals is having a promo on this.
However i was wondering s6 edge plus is not qualcomm based, instead exynos.
I was considering this one.
http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-Charger-Adapter-Smallest-Powerful/dp/B00M6QODH2
This is 2.1amp, and is the smallest, it can virtually snap right into your car charger port, without the protruding charger popping out.
MANswers said:
Thanks for that. slick deals is having a promo on this.
However i was wondering s6 edge plus is not qualcomm based, instead exynos.
I was considering this one.
http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-Charger-Adapter-Smallest-Powerful/dp/B00M6QODH2
This is 2.1amp, and is the smallest, it can virtually snap right into your car charger port, without the protruding charger popping out.
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Technology is same. High Volt, low Ampere. Any QualComm Certified QUick Charger would be compatible with Samsung's Adaptive Fast Charging. Atleast any branded ones, never go for any unheard brands. Usually Tronsmart, Aukey and Anker are good choices in average budget. Here's a video review I did for Tronsmart Adapter (Quick Charge) with my Edge+ :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR8W9ozZgAs
Also, please note that I have no affiliation with any of these brands, I just received a product for the review from Tronsmart and I found it really good. And I'm sure Aukey and Anker are equally good.:fingers-crossed:
Also, the Car Charger you are considering isn't fast charging compatible. Although it will not take much time with high Amp output (as specified), but its definitely not a fast charger.
Well, I am using CHOETECH’s Dual USB Car Charger with a dedicated port certified by QUALCOMM’s quick charge 2.0 technology so that I can charge my S6 Edge plus at quick charging rate even on the go. The main specialty of this charger is that it is not only charge the fast charging devices but also Apple devices like iPad Air 2 or iPhone 6 plus at much fast rate as compared to their original charger. You can consider to buy this from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YX7Y3G8/
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Thanks for that. slick deals is having a promo on this.
However i was wondering s6 edge plus is not qualcomm based, instead exynos.
I was considering this one.
http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-Charger-Adapter-Smallest-Powerful/dp/B00M6QODH2
This is 2.1amp, and is the smallest, it can virtually snap right into your car charger port, without the protruding charger popping out.
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sigma24 said:
Well, I am using CHOETECH’s Dual USB Car Charger with a dedicated port certified by QUALCOMM’s quick charge 2.0 technology so that I can charge my S6 Edge plus at quick charging rate even on the go. The main specialty of this charger is that it is not only charge the fast charging devices but also Apple devices like iPad Air 2 or iPhone 6 plus at much fast rate as compared to their original charger. You can consider to buy this from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YX7Y3G8/
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Here's a deal I saw today for CHOETECH :fingers-crossed::-
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...0-certified-4-port-usb-car-charger-on-amazon/
apurva.giri said:
Technology is same. High Volt, low Ampere. Any QualComm Certified QUick Charger would be compatible with Samsung's Adaptive Fast Charging. Atleast any branded ones, never go for any unheard brands. Usually Tronsmart, Aukey and Anker are good choices in average budget. Here's a video review I did for Tronsmart Adapter (Quick Charge) with my Edge+ :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR8W9ozZgAs
Also, please note that I have no affiliation with any of these brands, I just received a product for the review from Tronsmart and I found it really good. And I'm sure Aukey and Anker are equally good.:fingers-crossed:
Also, the Car Charger you are considering isn't fast charging compatible. Although it will not take much time with high Amp output (as specified), but its definitely not a fast charger.
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Thats very good info. Charging technology is evolving with the phones, and thats a very positive start.
The day is not very far when we might have multi thousand mah of battery juice and charging becomes a weekend job.
Do you mind taking notes while charghing 20% of battery with both the qualcomm fast charge, and the regular 2.1amp charger.
I've already placed an order for the Aukey 4.8A / 24W Dual USB Car Charger mainly because of the size. I'd really want a charger that can **** plush within the car's charging port.
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Thats very good info. Charging technology is evolving with the phones, and thats a very positive start.
The day is not very far when we might have multi thousand mah of battery juice and charging becomes a weekend job.
Do you mind taking notes while charghing 20% of battery with both the qualcomm fast charge, and the regular 2.1amp charger.
I've already placed an order for the Aukey 4.8A / 24W Dual USB Car Charger mainly because of the size. I'd really want a charger that can **** plush within the car's charging port.
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Charging isn't a very quantitative process. First 20% of charging would never be same as next 20% of charging. Usually with fast charger, the first 20% would be amazingly fast while the regular 2.1 amp might take upto 1.5 - 2 times the time. Also, assuming two different devices have same sized battery, with the same charger, one might get 70% charged within 30 min while the other can get 80% charged. However, by the end of 100%, both might take similar time. Thats why, the % readings aren't very consistent or dependable. Its approximation. With 2.1 Amp charger, you won't loose much time, trust me. Also, I don't have the facts, but I have noticed that when I do the fast charging, battery drains out marginally quicker than when I charge through regular 2 Amp charger. Hope that helps.. :fingers-crossed:
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Charging isn't a very quantitative process. First 20% of charging would never be same as next 20% of charging. Usually with fast charger, the first 20% would be amazingly fast while the regular 2.1 amp might take upto 1.5 - 2 times the time. Also, assuming two different devices have same sized battery, with the same charger, one might get 70% charged within 30 min while the other can get 80% charged. However, by the end of 100%, both might take similar time. Thats why, the % readings aren't very consistent or dependable. Its approximation. With 2.1 Amp charger, you won't loose much time, trust me. Also, I don't have the facts, but I have noticed that when I do the fast charging, battery drains out marginally quicker than when I charge through regular 2 Amp charger. Hope that helps.. :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks that was good info. I've received my 2.1Amp Aukey charger.
I tried it yst evening while commuting back home from work, which is about 20min drive, and the phone was at at 50%, and it was able to charge about 30% in less than 30 mins. Looks promising. I love the form factor. you cannot evne see the charger plugged into the car port. Best of all, the car port's cover covers the entire charger when not charging, this way i dont even have to remove the charger jack every time i have to charge the car, just pluck out the wires, and snap the cover back to conseal the charger.
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Thanks that was good info. I've received my 2.1Amp Aukey charger.
I tried it yst evening while commuting back home from work, which is about 20min drive, and the phone was at at 50%, and it was able to charge about 30% in less than 30 mins. Looks promising. I love the form factor. you cannot evne see the charger plugged into the car port. Best of all, the car port's cover covers the entire charger when not charging, this way i dont even have to remove the charger jack every time i have to charge the car, just pluck out the wires, and snap the cover back to conseal the charger.
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That's nice.. :good::good: No wonder Aukey has made its name so quickly!
dont need it lol
once charged my phone can be good for 3 days dont need it lol
ruchisharma91 said:
once charged my phone can be good for 3 days dont need it lol
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With constant gaming and videos watching (after working hours ofcs ), mine doesn't stay beyond a day. I'm very happy with that though. I have seen significant different in battery life when I keep the power saving mode on and it doesn't really impacts my gaming at all even though it says that power saving switches to the 1.5 ghz cores and stays that way...!
It doesn’t matter a lot but yeah the main thing is internal circuit and the premium component used in the manufacturing. All of the chargers integrated with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 chip inside. But the best components used in the manufacturing plays a vital role. I can trust CHOETECH more in this area as they are offering 18 months warranty, which means they are confident about what they produce or deliver to their consumers.