[Q] Smart Lock and No Thanks - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

On the initial set up of Lollipop , when it gives you the option of setting up smart lock, my brother foolishly said no thanks and then when he saw me using this feature, I told him the way to set it up. But when he went to security the feature wasn't present. The initial no thanks has taken it as no thanks forever.
Is there any way to re-enable this feature.

Got this from googling smart lock:
This menu can also be accessed by also going to?*Settings, selecting?*Security, followed by?*Smart Lock?*and?*Trusted Devices. The Smart Lock option will only be available if a security lock, such as a pattern or a passcode, is enabled on your device.

Tried it doesn't work there has to be a other work around... without factory reset that is..

Even it is not working for me.. I even enabled it
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Security override?

I have my corperate emails linked with my phone which requires me to have my screenlock password enabled for it to work. I hate having to put in my code every time I look at my phone. Is there any way to bypass this security requirement, like tell the server that I have this feature enabled when it is not? Thanks.
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Have you tried the app No Lock? It's free in the Market. Basically it disables the lock screen. It's been a while since I've used it, but if I remember correctly you can still have a security password set. No Lock just never lets the phone actually lock. You can enable/disable it easily with a widget on your homescreen.
I used to use it because I wanted to be able to wake the phone using the volume keys. Since I found a mod to allow that and still have the lock screen enabled, I stopped using the app.
Look I'm the android general forums. They have a way to bypass it, but mind you that if your IT department finds out you can get into trouble for it.
The no lock app prevents the lock from turning on if the screen goes black due to inactivity, and suits my need perfectly. I can push the power button and the lock comes on. Thanks for the help and advice.
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Screen Off and Lock + Trusted Device?

I've been using Screen Off and Lock forever to lock my phone using the swipe-up-from-home-nav-button (instead of the default Google Now).
After updating to Lolipop, I started using my Moto 360 as a trusted device and enabled a PIN lock on my phone. When I lock the phone with the power button and my Moto 360 connected, no PIN screen appears when I turn the screen back on.
However, if I lock the phone using the app Screen Off and Lock, the PIN screen always comes on when I go to turn the screen back on. This defeats the whole purpose/convenience of the trusted device bypassing the PIN. Anyone know how to fix this? Or know of an app that will work better?
It hasn't been updated since January so I imagine its just an incompatibility
ragnarokx said:
I've been using Screen Off and Lock forever to lock my phone using the swipe-up-from-home-nav-button (instead of the default Google Now).
After updating to Lolipop, I started using my Moto 360 as a trusted device and enabled a PIN lock on my phone. When I lock the phone with the power button and my Moto 360 connected, no PIN screen appears when I turn the screen back on.
However, if I lock the phone using the app Screen Off and Lock, the PIN screen always comes on when I go to turn the screen back on. This defeats the whole purpose/convenience of the trusted device bypassing the PIN. Anyone know how to fix this? Or know of an app that will work better?
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I'm on stock rooted Lollipop and I'm running into a similar issue, but with face unlock instead of trusted device.
I have double-tap on Nova Launcher set to system lock using Tasker, and when I lock my phone using that, face unlock doesn't activate, and won't until I put in my PIN password and then re-lock using the power button.
chronostorm said:
I'm on stock rooted Lollipop and I'm running into a similar issue, but with face unlock instead of trusted device.
I have double-tap on Nova Launcher set to system lock using Tasker, and when I lock my phone using that, face unlock doesn't activate, and won't until I put in my PIN password and then re-lock using the power button.
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I also tried locking my phone using Greenify instead of Screen Off & Lock, sam result. Perhaps there is a way to implement locking the phone that won't trigger the PIN to unlock? Or - and I hope this isn't the case - maybe there is no way to do this in 5.0?
ragnarokx said:
I also tried locking my phone using Greenify instead of Screen Off & Lock, sam result. Perhaps there is a way to implement locking the phone that won't trigger the PIN to unlock? Or - and I hope this isn't the case - maybe there is no way to do this in 5.0?
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I tried messing around with screen timeout in Tasker, but it doesn't let me set it to 0 seconds (for obvious reasons, I guess haha), since I noticed that letting my screen time out seems to work just fine for triggering face unlock. The lowest I can set it to is 7 seconds though, if I remember right, which is a bit too high for a screen off function.
ragnarokx said:
I've been using Screen Off and Lock forever to lock my phone using the swipe-up-from-home-nav-button (instead of the default Google Now).
After updating to Lolipop, I started using my Moto 360 as a trusted device and enabled a PIN lock on my phone. When I lock the phone with the power button and my Moto 360 connected, no PIN screen appears when I turn the screen back on.
However, if I lock the phone using the app Screen Off and Lock, the PIN screen always comes on when I go to turn the screen back on. This defeats the whole purpose/convenience of the trusted device bypassing the PIN. Anyone know how to fix this? Or know of an app that will work better?
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Have the same issue, wait for developer to fix it.
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Not sure this will be "fixed". All apps that are stating to lock the phone will actually do so, whether trusted devices are enabled or not. They act the same way as if you are on the lockscreen with the lock disabled by a trusted device and then press the lock symbol at the bottom, this also locks the device. This has been a problem forever, apps just work differently than the hardware power button.
As a fix you can try the following: Use another app to completely disable the lockscreen or keyguard (whatever your prefer) when a trusted device is connected instead of using the android built in feature.
If you are like me and want to use the new trusted devices feature of lollipop you can use Tasker as a workaround. Create a tasker task with the command "run shell --> input keyevent 26". This also requires root. Then you can use the app Home Button Launcher to set a shortcut to run the new task when swiping up. This is what I'm using and it works without any problem! I hope I could help.
spiderflash said:
Not sure this will be "fixed". All apps that are stating to lock the phone will actually do so, whether trusted devices are enabled or not. They act the same way as if you are on the lockscreen with the lock disabled by a trusted device and then press the lock symbol at the bottom, this also locks the device. This has been a problem forever, apps just work differently than the hardware power button.
As a fix you can try the following: Use another app to completely disable the lockscreen or keyguard (whatever your prefer) when a trusted device is connected instead of using the android built in feature.
If you are like me and want to use the new trusted devices feature of lollipop you can use Tasker as a workaround. Create a tasker task with the command "run shell --> input keyevent 26". This also requires root. Then you can use the app Home Button Launcher to set a shortcut to run the new task when swiping up. This is what I'm using and it works without any problem! I hope I could help.
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I attached a pic of trying to do what you said in Tasker. When I run the task, nothing happens.
ragnarokx said:
I attached a pic of trying to do what you said in Tasker. When I run the task, nothing happens.
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Have you installed the latest superSU beta? The previous versions had problems with the new security features introduced by lollipop. If you're not using this latest version my solution won't work.
spiderflash said:
Have you installed the latest superSU beta? The previous versions had problems with the new security features introduced by lollipop. If you're not using this latest version my solution won't work.
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It worked! SuperSU beta did the trick.
Also, I didn't need a separate app to make a Home key shortcut, I just made a profile: Event -> UI -> Assistance Request -> add the Task with input keyevent 26.
Thanks!
Nothing against Screen Off and Lock as it's just doing what it's designed to do (and Lock after all) but this is a useful work around, thanks.
ragnarokx said:
It worked! SuperSU beta did the trick.
Also, I didn't need a separate app to make a Home key shortcut, I just made a profile: Event -> UI -> Assistance Request -> add the Task with input keyevent 26.
Thanks!
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Oh yeah I forgot about that. First I tried it that way, but for some reason it didn't work, so thats why I use an external app But I'm glad it works for you!
spiderflash said:
Not sure this will be "fixed". All apps that are stating to lock the phone will actually do so, whether trusted devices are enabled or not. They act the same way as if you are on the lockscreen with the lock disabled by a trusted device and then press the lock symbol at the bottom, this also locks the device. This has been a problem forever, apps just work differently than the hardware power button.
As a fix you can try the following: Use another app to completely disable the lockscreen or keyguard (whatever your prefer) when a trusted device is connected instead of using the android built in feature.
If you are like me and want to use the new trusted devices feature of lollipop you can use Tasker as a workaround. Create a tasker task with the command "run shell --> input keyevent 26". This also requires root. Then you can use the app Home Button Launcher to set a shortcut to run the new task when swiping up. This is what I'm using and it works without any problem! I hope I could help.
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Thanks you guys. Now I feel more at home with Lollipop with my old habit. I couldn't stand that smart lock was disabled when I used other screen off apps (then again those haven't gotten an update for a while too).
ragnarokx said:
It worked! SuperSU beta did the trick.
Also, I didn't need a separate app to make a Home key shortcut, I just made a profile: Event -> UI -> Assistance Request -> add the Task with input keyevent 26.
Thanks!
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Yeah, there is no update yet from screen lock app developer regarding this issue ..
guess i have to use tasker trick ..
nsg86 said:
Yeah, there is no update yet from screen lock app developer regarding this issue ..
guess i have to use tasker trick ..
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There probably won't be. The app is called "... And Lock". Technically, it's doing what its supposed to.
spiderflash said:
Not sure this will be "fixed". All apps that are stating to lock the phone will actually do so, whether trusted devices are enabled or not. They act the same way as if you are on the lockscreen with the lock disabled by a trusted device and then press the lock symbol at the bottom, this also locks the device. This has been a problem forever, apps just work differently than the hardware power button.
As a fix you can try the following: Use another app to completely disable the lockscreen or keyguard (whatever your prefer) when a trusted device is connected instead of using the android built in feature.
If you are like me and want to use the new trusted devices feature of lollipop you can use Tasker as a workaround. Create a tasker task with the command "run shell --> input keyevent 26". This also requires root. Then you can use the app Home Button Launcher to set a shortcut to run the new task when swiping up. This is what I'm using and it works without any problem! I hope I could help.
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Was searching for a solution and i found this thread! Thanks a lot!
So no hope for people like me who don't use trusted devices/places but use trusted face? Because I think even tasker can't do that with trusted face unlock.
Also looking for a solution to this with trusted faces on lollipop.
Edit: If you're interested, you can follow the defect here: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79735

Disable security like PIN and Pattern?

My niece has a phone but she keeps forgetting the PIN or combination. What would be the options or instructions to disable those features and leave the Swipe option only?
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chocowilliam said:
My niece has a phone but she keeps forgetting the PIN or combination. What would be the options or instructions to disable those features and leave the Swipe option only?
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settings > lockscreen > security (?)
"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
I mean disable those features so she can't choose it again in the future that Swipe is the only screen lock option to choose.
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sorry , not that i'm aware of. hopefully someone else will chyme in
"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
There are several ways to do, I don't know which one you prefer, the easierst would be to download the 'SMS bypass' (Cerberus or any other similar app can also do it but for just one feature SMS bypass is all what we want) which needs to be running in the background, that allows sending an reset sms from another phone e.g. '1234 reset'. After that your phone will be restarted and the pass will be reset to 1234.
But I not recommend to entirely disabled it generally because this would be an open door for other attacks.
I wouldnt mind. Its just a tablet full of games and ebooks. If theres a way to remove those features.
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chocowilliam said:
My niece has a phone but she keeps "forgetting" the PIN or combination.
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If she keeps turning it back on she may be just messing with you on purpose. -_- may be you should talk to her about that.
Not aware of any way to achieve that. Maybe you should choose "face recognition" as access module? She won't forget that credential

[Q] Disable access to Quick Settings on Lock Screen - coming anytime soon?

I've recently configured the fingerprint scanner on my Lock Screen but notice that a whole bunch of phone functions are still accessible as Quick Settings are still available (well, some functions are).
Now, I'm not the first to notice this - this question has been asked before here and other places but an answer has never presented itself - not on stock firmware anyway. I think this may be a Lollipop "feature" so my question is does anyone knows if Marshmallow still does this or has it been fixed? I say fixed because locked phones shouldn't be turning stuff on & off in my pocket!
Not sure, I know samsung requires you're fingerprint or pin etc to turn on or off functions.
I'd check my Nexus 6 but it's in the mail to my brother right now.
Just to confirm, you can change the setting with it locked, the quicksettings don't just show you what's enabled? I don't have my Z5 yet so I can't check lol.
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No, not just a read-only display area. You can adjust brightness slider, toggle on/off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Flashlight, Airplane mode, Auto-rotate and LTE. My regular unlocked Quick Settings config has Mobile data and Stamina mode too. Weird that Airplane and LTE toggle are available on Lock Screen but somehow Mobile data and Stamina are "too important" to be left there.
I've read that removing all these from the regular Quick Settings will remove them from the Lock Screen cut-down version too but that's not really the point. I expect phone functions to be locked when the phone is.
Strange, I can see the use case for it, but it should be a toggle 'allow on lock screen' or something.
I've wanted to toggle bluetooth or airplane mode from the lock screen before, but at the same time I can see why having the ability to do that could be bad (evil coworkers lol)
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its not just about evil coworkers, its about thieves turning off Data+Wifi so you cannot use Device Manager !
a big security issue IMO.
Aye, though with features like reactivation lock is less of a issue since they won't be able to wipe and use the phone anyway. Still a security oversight though.
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Seems I've answered my own question
I tested this on a Nexus 5 running Marshmallow and it's the exact same scenario unfortunately so it doesn't look disabling Lock Screen Quick Setting access is coming to the Z5 either.
I've also tested an iPhone running iOS 9.1 and access to the Control Center (which has Airplane mode toggle too) is configurable to NOT be available on the Lock Screen.
iOS 1 - Android 0
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Yes that's totally nuts! What's the point of using fingerprint as security feature when you can turn off the phone using on/off button and all you mentioned above from the lockscreen! I used to use Xperia xposed or gravity box to configure it so it wouldn't but no root here.
Funkmasterchilla said:
Yes that's totally nuts! What's the point of using fingerprint as security feature when you can turn off the phone using on/off button and all you mentioned above from the lockscreen! I used to use Xperia xposed or gravity box to configure it so it wouldn't but no root here.
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Ah yes, forgot about on/off also being available. Turns out on/off is also available on iOS 9.1 lock screen even with Control Center access disabled so both iOS and Android behave the same there.
So it kinda cuts down the use cases for the find phone functionality on both.
Even on Marshmallow on the Nexus 5 Google have made it so location doesn't display on the toggles on the lockscreen for security of lost devices. But you can disable data still, the thing you need to tell the device to locate itself... Big fail...
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Lawyers?
Makes me wonder if Google/Apple lawyers have piped up with, "You know, one of these days some guy is gonna hunt down the thief that stole his fancy phone and get himself killed. Now we don't want to be liable for that so let's leave an option open to the experienced thief to turn off the phone!"
Too fanciful?
Problem still exists up to date
ricodredd said:
Makes me wonder if Google/Apple lawyers have piped up with, "You know, one of these days some guy is gonna hunt down the thief that stole his fancy phone and get himself killed. Now we don't want to be liable for that so let's leave an option open to the experienced thief to turn off the phone!"
Too fanciful?
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That's quite a good one :laugh::laugh:

Problem with the lock screen

Hi everyone,
Yesterday I got a new update from EMUI and I allowed it. But when the phone restarted I found a new lock screen, from the app "Smart". I hated it so I disable the app (I can't uninstall it).
Now when I turn on my screen the first thing that shows up is "enter pin" insted of my wallpaper lock screen, notifications and clock.
Please hepl me with this problem, usually I turn on my screen to check my notifications and the time.
MY phone has Android 7.0 and EMUI 5.0.1
Thanks.
Do you have fingerprint on? It forces the pin lockscreen. On and off randomly on mine since that update which I put off until 2 days ago.
But if you disabled it can't you re enable it? One way would be a factory reset failing other methods like adb or app menu.
mehhhh said:
Do you have fingerprint on? It forces the pin lockscreen. if you disabled it can't you re enable it? One way would be a factory reset failing other methods like adb or app menu.
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Sorry I forgot to mention that, I did the factory reset and wiped the cache. I've tried disable the finger print now, turned off then on with the power button but nothing. I tried too with the app menu but about the abd... I dont know about it.
i never heard of this nor did I ever encounter the issue, I don't think an app called "Smart" is by Huawei, I may be mistaken.
Pin and can't see notifications
I have The Same problem and I couldn't fix it..
ChinoBeat said:
Hi everyone,
Yesterday I got a new update from EMUI and I allowed it. But when the phone restarted I found a new lock screen, from the app "Smart". I hated it so I disable the app (I can't uninstall it).
Now when I turn on my screen the first thing that shows up is "enter pin" insted of my wallpaper lock screen, notifications and clock.
Please hepl me with this problem, usually I turn on my screen to check my notifications and the time.
MY phone has Android 7.0 and EMUI 5.0.1
Thanks.
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Guys try disabling (if you're using it obviously) the smart lock feature from settings -> lock screen.

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