now that root is out, whats the best way to backup and restore after wipe and root? android is still new to me and there seems to be tons of different ways and apps that do different things. so im confused. thanks.
before root: Helium Backup
After root: Titanium Backup or nandroid for full backup
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Hey guys, I finally got the courage to root my phone yesterday because I wanted the crapware that sprint gives you and the new htc update gives you off the phone. Before I read about titanium backup I saw root explorer and did that method but later I found out titanium fully uninstalls it after using root explorer so my question is this: Since I did a nand backup and I recover it, will it put everything back the way it was even if I installed stuff later on? Like is a nand backup the same as a windows restore point?
Nandroid backup is a system image. It doesn't track changes automatically like system restore so you'll be restoring back the image as it was when you saved it.
So should I uninstall all the apps that I did after rooting to avoid complications or will it do it for me? Most are on my sd card too.
You shouldn't have to worry about the new applications you installed. If you restore a Nandroid backup, it will overwrite any and all changes done to your phone after the backup was taken.
Can someone help me understand the difference between a Nandroid backup and using Titanium Backup? Is it similar to the difference between image-based backup vs. file/application based backup? Under what circumstances would one be better than the other?
Your simile is spot on. Nandroid backup is used to completely restore a system with all apps and data.
Titanium Backup is used to restore/reinstall apps and data without changing your system. It's really handy if you get brave and decide to flash a new ROM on your phone. TiBu can put all your previously installed apps into place very quickly.
If you don't like the new ROM, just restore your old system from the Nandroid backup.
Ok, so help me think this through.
I've already Rooted/S-off/flashed a ROM on my phone. So presuming that the ROM image I download via CWM or XDA is on my card anyway, and I have TiBu (I have the paid version) that I can use to selectively restore apps, settings and data, would not Nandroid be redundant in this case?
OlafTheOx said:
Your simile is spot on. Nandroid backup is used to completely restore a system with all apps and data.
Titanium Backup is used to restore/reinstall apps and data without changing your system. It's really handy if you get brave and decide to flash a new ROM on your phone. TiBu can put all your previously installed apps into place very quickly.
If you don't like the new ROM, just restore your old system from the Nandroid backup.
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The point of a nandriod backup is to easily go back to a working setup without having to spend time installing apps and tweaking all the numerous settings to your liking. 5 minutes to restore a nandroid backup vs. 2 - 4 hours of installing & tweaking.
DInc with CyanogenMod 6.1 & Invisiblek #28 kernel.
Download Nandroid
Where do I download Nandroid?
Will this one work from the G1 thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459830
Thanks
Nandroid is actually part of Clockwork Recovery. If you reboot to recovery mode you can make and restore backups from there.
As you say your on a custom ROM I assume Clockwork Recovery/CWM/ROM Manager was installed as part of the process.
There is a good overview of ClockworkMod Recovery at http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-clockworkmod-recovery-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide/#features
BillTheCat said:
Can someone help me understand the difference between a Nandroid backup and using Titanium Backup? Is it similar to the difference between image-based backup vs. file/application based backup? Under what circumstances would one be better than the other?
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I was just wondering about the same thing, so thanks for the thread.
Making a Nandroid backup right now ;-)
BTW, nandroid backups are stored on your SD card. You can free up space by either deleting or moving them to storage off the phone. Just keep a backup of your preferred restoration ROM on the SD card. Also, at the very least, it's a good idea to save a backup of the original manufacturer's ROM somewhere.
DInc with CyanogenMod 6.1 & Invisiblek #28 kernel.
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There is a good overview of ClockworkMod Recovery at addictivetips dot com
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thanks for the link.
One issue though... it says ClockWorkMod requires ROOT access to create a backup rom image, which on my phone (ATT Aria with HBOOT 1.02) require to have S-OFF first with alpharev, yet most instructions tell you to create a nandroid backup first (which makes sense in case something goes wrong)...
Am I missing something ? you can't create a back, and you take risk doing S-OFF+Root to get there.
I want to remove unwanted ATT crapware, and install non market apps, but I need root access for all this. right ?
I'm curious as to why when I perform a nandroid with CWM its unable to backup my apps? My solution to this was to use titanium backup to backup my apps, however I'm not exactly sure how it backups my apps or if I'll be able to restore them after I wipe everything. So what app do you guys feel works the best to backup apps? Thanks.
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Motorola Xoom Wifi
Bootloader - Unlocked/Rooted
Rom - Team Tiamat 2.2.2 "Moray"
Recovery - Clockworkmod 3.2.0.0 R4c
devianc3 said:
I'm curious as to why when I perform a nandroid with CWM its unable to backup my apps? My solution to this was to use titanium backup to backup my apps, however I'm not exactly sure how it backups my apps or if I'll be able to restore them after I wipe everything. So what app do you guys feel works the best to backup apps? Thanks.
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Motorola Xoom Wifi
Bootloader - Unlocked/Rooted
Rom - Team Tiamat 2.2.2 "Moray"
Recovery - Clockworkmod 3.2.0.0 R4c
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In my experience, a nandroid backup gives you an exact image of the state of your Xoom at the time of the backup. That includes all apps and data at that time. A Titanium Backup of your user apps and data is great to have, and keep really up to date, so if you need to wipe when flashing a new rom, you can just restore missing apps and data. Otherwise, just restore that nandroid and it will take you back to exactly where you were.
what is the best tool do backup my apps and app data, for flashing different roms.
Titanium backup pro (seems to be everyones preference), Rom toolbox pro (seems to do a lot more, and cheaper, better UI) or any other easy and better alternatives?
xkawsx said:
what is the best tool do backup my apps and app data, for flashing different roms.
Titanium backup pro (seems to be everyones preference), Rom toolbox pro (seems to do a lot more, and cheaper, better UI) or any other easy and better alternatives?
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I personally backup my apps using Titanium then do a nandroid backup so i can revert to where i was should i want to go back to it without doing a fresh install of that rom.
titanium for apps and data. Nandroid to restore as is...
Sorry for being noob, but a bit confused. Say if i'm wanting to play with different roms are these the steps?
1)backup apps/data titanum
2) backup nandroid on TWRP
3) factory wipe/reset
4) flash rom
5) flash gapps
6) wipe cache/dalvik
7) restore nandroid
8) restore apps from titanium
correct?
Remove steps 6 and 7.
You rarely need to wipe dalvik/cache despite how many times people around here say it as if it's essential
A nandroid backup is a complete backup of the state of your phone as it is. ROM/apps/settings/contacts/texts/homescreens...basically everything
If you restore a nandroid after you you install a new ROM, you are essentially restoring your old ROM as it was when you made the backup
so the nandroid backup part is only used to restore if flashing new ROM has failed? just as backup backup lol?
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so the nandroid backup part is only used to restore if flashing new ROM has failed? just as backup backup lol?
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Yes.
and 6 isn't required because you'v already done a factory reset
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so the nandroid backup part is only used to restore if flashing new ROM has failed? just as backup backup lol?
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Precisely.
Unless you are absolutely confident of what you are flashing, you should really do a nandroid backup before you flash any zip file, not just when changing ROMs. It's good common sense practice.
A nandroid backup is a safe point to restore to in case anything goes wrong. When/if that horror happens, you'll be glad you took the extra time to make the nandroid
- If you have a bad flash without a nandroid backup (e.g. bootloop or device doesn't boot), it can be much harder to recover
- If you have a bad flash with a nandroid backup, restore the nandroid
thanks guys, felt like ive learnt a life lesson lol!
I shall purchase titanium backup!
i have a cwm backup and want to restore apps from it . ant way to do it?
Hi,
If your cwm version has an option to restore data partition only... That can work. But, I've read many issues from people trying to do this. Using Titanium backup to backup your apps and data is by far the better way.
You could restore your full backup. Get titanium backup and backup your apps and data. Then flash a new rom and get titanium backup again and restore your user apps.
That's the best and most popular way. ?
Good luck!