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Hey guys I did a search and found nothing. Any time I'm connected to Wi-Fi, I can't receive calls or texts. I'm on Sprint. Anyone else have this issue?
nein7three said:
Hey guys I did a search and found nothing. Any time I'm connected to Wi-Fi, I can't receive calls or texts. I'm on Sprint. Anyone else have this issue?
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Yes, have done tons of research and am having a similar issue. It's believed to be software related. If LTE or Global are set as the "Preferred Network Type" under Mobile Network AND wifi is turned on, then the mobile signal cuts out when it goes to sleep. With 3G set, the phone works fine with wifi turned on. I've tried wiping the phone and also loaded the factory 4.4.2 image via fastboot this morning and still have the problem. Some people have RMA-ed their phones and still report the issue, so it must be a certain combination of settings. It's also being reported from Sprint and T-Mobile user, so it's not restricted to just one network. As for me, I'm on Sprint in NYC, have an AC router and using an Airave. My Galaxy S4 didn't have any problems.
Here are a few threads that I've found:
XDA - Signal Problem
XDA - Signal issues with new baseband solved by flashing older baseband
On Google's forums:
Nexus 5 sometimes doesn't ring when people are calling
Thanks man, I had read the Google thread but hadn't find the XDA ones. I'll try forcing 3g while on Wi-Fi.
No problem! If you're on Sprint, there is also this:
Circuit Switched Fallback Issues on Sprint
I'm in an area that is reported as not having the issue, so it's not that for me. Plus, I'm on 3G with the Airave. I remember having the HTC Mogul on Sprint and for a while it would just die if the signal was roaming. An update fixed it, but it wasn't fun. At least in this case the phone still works, not as advertised, but it works. Here's to hoping that it's fixed soon!
I'm the Tmobile user in the Google discussion. It's an annoying problem and hope it's fixed with 4.4.3. However the issue just happened to me in the last week before I got the 4.4.2 update. So I'm not sure what could have happened from a month ago when I got the phone until a week ago. Haven't installed any new apps since then.
This does seem to be working now that I am forcing 3g
Weird, right?
4.4.1 and 4.4.2 both have the same baseband and kernel. That's about the timeframe when the updates both came out, so I assume that maybe 4.4.1 is when the majority of users started seeing issues pop up?
From what I've read, this phone handles cell signals much differently because of the newer LTE TDD. It could be any number of things really, but I don't have the expertise to examine the code to see what was changed between the 4.4 and 4.4.1/4.4.2 baseband. I do believe that all of the Wifi and cell signal issue posts that are popping up now are related though.
I'm also noticing my wifi speeds bouncing all over the place (from ~180Mbps -- ~500Mbps) and I'm only a few feet away from my router. I have a Netgear r6300v2 AC router.
12/14/13 Update: I just got off of the phone with Sprint. They show that there is an internal memo on the issue and LG is aware of it. They will be pushing an update as soon as it's ready. Sprint will also be pushing an update for the Airave to help with the issue, starting on 12/19/13.
The support rep told me that it is an issue where the wifi and LTE radios aren't playing nicely together and it's causing this conflict. That's why everything seems to work fine when 3G is set as a preferred network.
PynkFloydd said:
Weird, right?
4.4.1 and 4.4.2 both have the same baseband and kernel. That's about the timeframe when the updates both came out, so I assume that maybe 4.4.1 is when the majority of users started seeing issues pop up?
From what I've read, this phone handles cell signals much differently because of the newer LTE TDD. It could be any number of things really, but I don't have the expertise to examine the code to see what was changed between the 4.4 and 4.4.1/4.4.2 baseband. I do believe that all of the Wifi and cell signal issue posts that are popping up now are related though.
I'm also noticing my wifi speeds bouncing all over the place (from ~180Mbps -- ~500Mbps) and I'm only a few feet away from my router. I have a Netgear r6300v2 AC router.
12/14/13 Update: I just got off of the phone with Sprint. They show that there is an internal memo on the issue and LG is aware of it. They will be pushing an update as soon as it's ready. Sprint will also be pushing an update for the Airave to help with the issue, starting on 12/19/13.
The support rep told me that it is an issue where the wifi and LTE radios aren't playing nicely together and it's causing this conflict. That's why everything seems to work fine when 3G is set as a preferred network.
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thanks man!
do we have any update on the situation?
Yeah I wish there was an update soon because this problem is starting to become very annoying. Twice this week I had to check my Google Voice because my Text didn't go through on my phone
Anyone have a fix for this yet?
Does anyone know if any custom roms fix this?
I've read Google is aware of the issue and speculation says they will fix it with the 4.4.3 release.
questions:
(the 1st is stupid, but i'll ask anyways) - when this issue occurs, is the phone set to **wifi only** with 3g / lte in airplane mode?
or does it occur when just setting up wifi in ADDITION to 3g / lte?
&, when you typed Receiving no calls out texts while on WiFi , is your application for texting, hangouts?
if it's hangouts, then google neutered it to only allow text thru the cellular network,
but if you're simply joining a wifi hotspot at work or home, with your cellular network enabled, it SHOULD go thru, ive never had an issue like that with wifi toggled.. even with 4.4.1
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j'vai said:
questions:
(the 1st is stupid, but i'll ask anyways) - when this issue occurs, is the phone set to **wifi only** with 3g / lte in airplane mode?
or does it occur when just setting up wifi in ADDITION to 3g / lte?
&, when you typed Receiving no calls out texts while on WiFi , is your application for texting, hangouts?
if it's hangouts, then google neutered it to only allow text thru the cellular network,
but if you're simply joining a wifi hotspot at work or home, with your cellular network enabled, it SHOULD go thru, ive never had an issue like that with wifi toggled.. even with 4.4.1
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~hint~
maybe it's simpler than one would expect (shot in the dark)
to sum it up;
on our new triband spark capable phones, does *automatic vs home only* in (change the cdma roaming mode) mean what we THINK it means in relation to it's single chip, single path architect??
back when, in dual pathed phones it MEANT roaming in another provider, when ecsfb, carrier aggregation, spark wasn't a thought..
but these newer triband phone are different beasts, & the effect of the patched worked, fit n finished network of cell sites of upgraded , non upgraded network vision, does toggling automate for smoother performance between these sites on these triband devices, with single paths....?
something as simple as a network toggle, to aid service (on the mobile client side) in this -
"In a CSFB environment, 2 important concepts are employed viz., Mobile Terminating Roaming Retry, Mobile terminating roaming forward. We will discuss MTRR in this blog. In a typical operator environment, voice coverage for the entire geographical area is achieved by employing many MSC’s. These MSC’s may be a mix of Legacy MSC (where upgrading is difficult/impossible) and next generation Softswitch MSC’s. In order to support CSFB, the MSC needs to be upgraded to support SGs interface, so the issue is how do we support CSFB when the UE is in Legacy MSC coverage. This is where MTRR helps in call delivery to Legacy MSC that does not support SGs"
from being parked on an lte channel, being called & successfully *inter-roaming* to 1xtt voice, evdo data (if used), then back to lte parking & usage when applicable..
~shrugz shoulderz~
for those with this issue, what are your setting like, in relation?
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j'vai said:
questions:
(the 1st is stupid, but i'll ask anyways) - when this issue occurs, is the phone set to **wifi only** with 3g / lte in airplane mode?
or does it occur when just setting up wifi in ADDITION to 3g / lte?
&, when you typed Receiving no calls out texts while on WiFi , is your application for texting, hangouts?
if it's hangouts, then google neutered it to only allow text thru the cellular network,
but if you're simply joining a wifi hotspot at work or home, with your cellular network enabled, it SHOULD go thru, ive never had an issue like that with wifi toggled.. even with 4.4.1
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~hint~
maybe it's simpler than one would expect (shot in the dark)
to sum it up;
on our new triband spark capable phones, does *automatic vs home only* in (change the cdma roaming mode) mean what we THINK it means in relation to it's single chip, single path architect??
back when, in dual pathed phones it MEANT roaming in another provider, when ecsfb, carrier aggregation, spark wasn't a thought..
but these newer triband phone are different beasts, & the effect of the patched worked, fit n finished network of cell sites of upgraded , non upgraded network vision, does toggling automate for smoother performance between these sites on these triband devices, with single paths....?
something as simple as a network toggle, to aid service (on the mobile client side) in this -
"In a CSFB environment, 2 important concepts are employed viz., Mobile Terminating Roaming Retry, Mobile terminating roaming forward. We will discuss MTRR in this blog. In a typical operator environment, voice coverage for the entire geographical area is achieved by employing many MSC’s. These MSC’s may be a mix of Legacy MSC (where upgrading is difficult/impossible) and next generation Softswitch MSC’s. In order to support CSFB, the MSC needs to be upgraded to support SGs interface, so the issue is how do we support CSFB when the UE is in Legacy MSC coverage. This is where MTRR helps in call delivery to Legacy MSC that does not support SGs"
from being parked on an lte channel, being called & successfully *inter-roaming* to 1xtt voice, evdo data (if used), then back to lte parking & usage when applicable..
~shrugz shoulderz~
for those with this issue, what are your setting like, in relation?
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just a note -
if you look at slide 7 on the qualcomm snapdragon 800's chipset (you all already know this)
http://www.slideshare.net/jjwu6266/qualcomm-snapdragon-800-mobile-device
there's only ONE chip to handle wifi, 4g, 3g, bt, etc..
with lesser BoM (bill of materials) just maybe, top level s/w userspace toggles, handle more than what meets the eye, the point i was making in another thread..
which not only effects our nexus 5s, but even other phones in various ways depending on the implementation of sw/hd, of the same chipset family..
& sprint has mentioned for the forseeable future, of providing phones, with these types of chips from qualcomm..
~go figure~
nein7three said:
Hey guys I did a search and found nothing. Any time I'm connected to Wi-Fi, I can't receive calls or texts. I'm on Sprint. Anyone else have this issue?
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the ONLY reason i pointed to the network settings *home vs automatic* in this situation, is because,
the qualcomm sd 800 is an asymmetric multiprocessor, (as will future chipsets be) & you're losing other core networking functions, while gaining another, when you SHOULD have available ALL facilities -
**ASMP vs SMP**
&
Symmetric Multiprocessing Vs. Asymmetric Processing
It actually occurs when the phone is connected to LTE and WiFi together. If my settings were to connect to 3G along with WiFi, SMS works fine.
I have to manually change my Mobile Network settings when I get to home or work, where I will be connecting to WiFi (note cellular service is always ,on, I didn't mean to make it sound as if I am trying to send SMS over WiFi). So when home I turn on WiFi along with 3G connectivity and when I leave I turn off Wifi and switch to LTE.
This issue has been happened while unrooted and running stock ROM and it still happens while rooted running Cataclysm.
Also note, the SMS we miss never will come through, it's not as if later on the message comes through...It's gone forever. It also prevents calls from coming through, it's not just limited to SMS.
nein7three said:
It actually occurs when the phone is connected to LTE and WiFi together. If my settings were to connect to 3G along with WiFi, SMS works fine.
I have to manually change my Mobile Network settings when I get to home or work, where I will be connecting to WiFi (note cellular service is always ,on, I didn't mean to make it sound as if I am trying to send SMS over WiFi). So when home I turn on WiFi along with 3G connectivity and when I leave I turn off Wifi and switch to LTE.
This issue has been happened while unrooted and running stock ROM and it still happens while rooted running Cataclysm.
Also note, the SMS we miss never will come through, it's not as if later on the message comes through...It's gone forever. It also prevents calls from coming through, it's not just limited to SMS.
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try my suggestion; it won't hurt..
let us know if it rectified anything..
What worked for me was forcing 2G instead of 3G, hope it helps!
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-add-wi-fi-calling-support-its-nexus-6-model-early-2015
Shipping with Android 5.0, the new Nexus 6 gives customers the latest and greatest Google mobile experience, and seamless integration with the apps they love. Plus, this hot new smartphone is expected to support Wi-Fi Un-leashed beginning in early 2015 with an over-the-air update– making it the first-ever Nexus device that will support Wi-Fi Calling thanks to enhancements in Android 5.0. And only with the Un-carrier can customers use the latest, super-sized devices the way they were meant to be used – with no annual service contract, no domestic overages and unlimited music streaming all on the nation's fastest LTE network, plus unlimited data and texting in 120+ countries and destinations − and now, Wi-Fi Un-leashed.
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Will this be exclusive to the Nexus 6? If it is, surely it will be possible to port it to the Nexus 5?
Here's to hoping we get this included in our 5.0 update.
my first thought, which is nothing more than a guess, is that this will be hardware based on the N6 and "unlocked" with a T-Mo OTA and will not be able to be ported to the N5.
Lucke said:
my first thought, which is nothing more than a guess, is that this will be hardware based on the N6 and "unlocked" with a T-Mo OTA and will not be able to be ported to the N5.
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considering Tmobile is making this feature available in early 2015 with an OTA I think you are right in guess that this will be something Tmobile bakes into the OS and not functionality native in Android L
Edit: Unless Google has a planned update for L in early 2015 that Tmobile knows about (I highly doubt it)
Improved network handoffs resulting in limited interruption in connectivity. For example, continue your video chat or VoIP calls without interruption as you leave the house and switch from your home Wi-Fi back to cellular
thats from here https://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
I think wifi calling and voLTE are going to be baked into 5.0 no matter the carrier
david279 said:
Improved network handoffs resulting in limited interruption in connectivity. For example, continue your video chat or VoIP calls without interruption as you leave the house and switch from your home Wi-Fi back to cellular
thats from here https://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
I think wifi calling and voLTE are going to be baked into 5.0 no matter the carrier
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that's my suspicion as well..
google may bake hangouts code (or the hangouts dialer code) into the native dialer, making them one & the same -
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/436152-nexus-5-likely-see-wi-fi-calling-over-t-mobile-soon-4.html#post3918556
david279 said:
Improved network handoffs resulting in limited interruption in connectivity. For example, continue your video chat or VoIP calls without interruption as you leave the house and switch from your home Wi-Fi back to cellular
thats from here https://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
I think wifi calling and voLTE are going to be baked into 5.0 no matter the carrier
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but that doesn't necessarily mean that t-mobiles wi-fi calling feature, or VoLTE compatibility is baked into 5.0. VoLTE is too new to test fully, and while that may work, you can't use VoLTE on wi-fi. the features you're talking about is the issue of dropping signal for that split second when you leave your house (the time where wi-fi drops off and cell doesn't re-establish itself instantly) for the purpose of hangouts (voice or video).
i still think that since the N5 isn't compatible with t-mo's wi-fi calling, it's not just a software thing.
that is talking about network handoff in general, nothing about hangouts. And the ota to enable this feature will be released next year so its probably being tweaked now to be ready for next year.
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also wifi calling has never been a hardware feature, its all software. back in the day of early CM(7 or 8) wifi calling was added to all the T-mo htc phones and it was the same as its being done today. A apps and a couple of libs in /system.
in other words, the feature doesn't need a carrier add -on (ims core registration), if it's OS software based..
even right now, we *have it* on the nexus 5, with gv / hangouts / number integration, on wifi & lte & I can stream a youtube vid & be on a call at the same time, so right now, it's a given in the userspace via apps, as an over the top solution (works dam well too)
a revision of android L may deeply provide a seemless solution with it's update; I suspect this much.. (the carrier's ims' Ok on data voice is only complementary) but, can be worked around..
j'vai said:
even right now, we *have it* on the nexus 5, with gv / hangouts / number integration, on wifi & lte & I can stream a youtube vid & be on a call at the same time, so right now, it's a given in the userspace via apps, as an over the top solution (works dam well too)
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its not the same thing. you go from cell signal call to a wifi call with the same number. it is not VoIP.
Zepius said:
its not the same thing. you go from cell signal call to a wifi call with the same number. it is not VoIP.
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even currently, hand-offs isn't reliable, votle / wifi calling is more, stationary than anything, from what I've been reading from the experiences of users on tmobile & Verizon..
with the over the top solution now on the nexus 5 (or many adroid devices), same difference;
one better, technically the nexus 5 isn't even supported on Verizon, but yet, can have voice over lte on Verizon (AWS) with a lte data only connection ..
on other networks, it matters not what the data air interface is, the call can be made, with one solution..
j'vai said:
even currently, hand-offs isn't reliable, votle / wifi calling is more, stationary than anything, from what I've been reading from the experiences of users on tmobile & Verizon..
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this is impossible. Verizon does not have wifi calling at this time.
you cannot compare VoLTE to tmobile's WIFI calling as they are not the same.
VoLTE is only VoIP over LTE. nothing more.
tmobile's wifi calling is a regular cell signal call that can become a VoIP call but still use the original tmobile number.
Zepius said:
this is impossible. Verizon does not have wifi calling at this time.
you cannot compare VoLTE to tmobile's WIFI calling as they are not the same.
VoLTE is only VoIP over LTE. nothing more.
tmobile's wifi calling is a regular cell signal call that can become a VoIP call but still use the original tmobile number.
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look at what you've typed, & go back & re-read what you quoted from me...
......
"Keyan X
3 hours ago
The nexus 5 can access and use Verizon LTE its been proven and confirmed"
"iavaj jj
3 hours ago (edited)
+Keyan X I'm not disagreeing with you that it DOESN'T work; just expanding that, from my prior post, one can have unfettered data & voice on Verizon's LTE band 4, where coverage is..
Google gave the nexus 5 a backdoor with the new hangouts dialer.."
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Zepius said:
this is impossible. Verizon does not have wifi calling at this time.
you cannot compare VoLTE to tmobile's WIFI calling as they are not the same.
VoLTE is only VoIP over LTE. nothing more.
tmobile's wifi calling is a regular cell signal call that can become a VoIP call but still use the original tmobile number.
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"on other networks, it matters not what the data air interface is, the call can be made, with one solution.. "
I'm on sprint, with gv integration, all I'd need is data -
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/436152-nexus-5-likely-see-wi-fi-calling-over-t-mobile-soon-5.html
anywhere in the world, I'd have the same 202 (wash dc) area code calling out..
j'vai said:
even currently, hand-offs isn't reliable, votle / wifi calling is more, stationary than anything, from what I've been reading from the experiences of users on tmobile & Verizon..
with the over the top solution now on the nexus 5 (or many adroid devices), same difference;
one better, technically the nexus 5 isn't even supported on Verizon, but yet, can have voice over lte on Verizon (AWS) with a lte data only connection ..
on other networks, it matters not what the data air interface is, the call can be made, with one solution..
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nexus 5 does not work on voice over lte(volte) that verizon has. yes, verizons volte just began. no, the nexus 5 does not work on it. only thing that the n5 can do on verizon is get data.
simms22 said:
nexus 5 does not work on voice over lte(volte) that verizon has.
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if it can ALREADY obtain the lte data service ( as in the youtube video) what would hinder gv from making & receiving calls with an over the top solution, with just Verizon acting as a dumb pipe?
it hasn't stopped me on sprint, nor tmobile, I guess it wouldn't stop me on att..
what would stop it on Verizon?
j'vai said:
look at what you've typed, & go back & re-read what you quoted from me...
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"Keyan X
3 hours ago
The nexus 5 can access and use Verizon LTE its been proven and confirmed"
"iavaj jj
3 hours ago (edited)
+Keyan X I'm not disagreeing with you that it DOESN'T work; just expanding that, from my prior post, one can have unfettered data & voice on Verizon's LTE band 4, where coverage is..
Google gave the nexus 5 a backdoor with the new hangouts dialer.."
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"on other networks, it matters not what the data air interface is, the call can be made, with one solution.. "
I'm on sprint, with gv integration, all I'd need is data -
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/436152-nexus-5-likely-see-wi-fi-calling-over-t-mobile-soon-5.html
anywhere in the world, I'd have the same 202 (wash dc) area code calling out..
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you still do not understand the difference between VoIP, VoLTE, and wifi callling
I guess the majority are stuck on the schematics of volte, as only being ims based implemented by the carrier, also wifi calling or it ain't real -
"VoLTE, Voice over LTE is an IMS-based specification. Adopting this approach, it enables the system to be integrated with the suite of applications that will become available on LTE."
http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/lte-long-term-evolution/voice-over-lte-volte.php
I'm not swayed by market speak, when the solution is at hand already, market speak sways many to purchases not needed, wen what they had in hand already could have done the job perfectly..
j'vai said:
if it can ALREADY obtain the lte data service ( as in the youtube video) what would hinder gv from making & receiving calls with an over the top solution, with just Verizon acting as a dumb pipe?
it hasn't stopped me on sprint, nor tmobile, I guess it wouldn't stop me on att..
what would stop it on Verizon?
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thats fine, use your google voice number on the data only connection. you said that voice calls work over volte. when in fact they do not. older lte tech did not allow voice calls over lte, so when you made calls, you switched to H or 3G. this new tech allows calls over lte now, which needs a device that can call over lte. the nexus 5 can not call over lte, but most new phones will be able to now.
Zepius said:
you still do not understand the difference between VoIP, VoLTE, and wifi callling
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market speak aside the division of wifi, lte, voip calling, is calls over data - which I expressed my sentiment here (posted for the second time)-
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/436152-nexus-5-likely-see-wi-fi-calling-over-t-mobile-soon-5.html#post3929214
guess I need to copy & paste w/o the pics -
"have a hacker mindset, & push things to work how you want them;
forget simply wifi calling, I want it all, *data calling* irrelevant of the air interface used;
I have a truphone sim, that was collecting dust in my wallet for the longest, last night I decided to try something,
*use it*, lol
it had like $39 odd on it in credit, as stated, I'm a current sprint sub, with google voice integration, I've gave the truphone number to no one, it's basically dormant, minus test calls to keep the account alive, but it's no contact number for me..
what I'm did last night was swap my sprint sim, for the truphone sim, to utilize it's data, while still having my main sprint number via google voice, which I can receive & make, calls, videochat, mms, sms via hangouts, I've set hangouts to *receive incoming calls* since the native dialer isn't tied to the sprint sim anymore (so no double rings from hangouts & the native dialer)...
I want to see how far that $39 will take me..
at home & at work, I'm connect to wifi, so only in between, out & about am I utilizing truphone AKA tmobile's hspa data service-
all calls via the hangouts / gv / sprint number are nothing but data calls, ither on tmobile's hspa or wifi, likewise with sms, mms, & of course video chat.."
I won't have to upgrade from the nexus 5, for the same feature set..
j'vai said:
market speak aside the division of wifi, lte, voip calling, is calls over data - which I expressed my sentiment here (posted for the second time)-
[SNIP]
I won't have to upgrade from the nexus 5, for the same feature set..
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congrats. you discovered VoIP.
VoIP is not the same as VoLTE
VoIP is not the same as WIFI calling.
i'm correcting you because you are spreading mis-information.
simms22 said:
thats fine, use your google voice number on the data only connection. you said that voice calls work over volte. when in fact they do not. older lte tech did not allow voice calls over lte, so when you made calls, you switched to H or 3G. this new tech allows calls over lte now, which needs a device that can call over lte. the nexus 5 can not call over lte, but most new phones will be able to now.
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*my voice calls over lte with google voice on the nexus 5 works wOnders*
& I can use the browser, stream from youtube while on a call.. I don't have to wait for the carriers to *OK* the phone from their IMS core.. I simply go over the top of it, for the same functionality..
Does anyone know how to activate wi-fi calling on the Z5? I figured it'd be a menu setting, but I can't find it. I'm using the Taiwan version of the Compact and am using MetroPCS here in the States.
Thanks.
To answer my own question. It appears that wi-fi calling is only available with some carrier phones. So for instance, EE in England says on their setup page,
"WiFi Calling is only available on the EE version of the Sony Xperia Z5 Compact, bought directly from us in one of our stores, online at EE.co.uk, through our telesales team, or through corporate sales if you are a corporate customer."
So, I guess my question now is, is there a way to flash the phone so that I can get this feature on my non-EE phone? My carrier, MetroPCS, does allow wi-fi calling, but they don't sell the Z5 (and likely won't ever sell it).
You can try flashing the EE ROM with flashtool and see if you have that option. You will get carrier specific bloatware as well.
Would I be able to delete the bloatware? And I'm new to Android. When I flash, does it delete all of my settings and downloads and whatnot? I'm assuming I can back them up someplace in case it does, but like I say, I'm new to this. Also, where would I get the EE Rom from?
Look for Xperifirm. Download and install. You can get the firmware there. Next download flashtool version 0.9.19.10. You can bundle the firmware files into a ftf and flash, both with flashtool. Read the respective guides. To keep data, look at options when flashing and choose not to wipe user data. I would type it up but the instructions are on XDA, just search.
Neither WiFi calling or VoLTE will not work on the Sony Z5 unless your carrier/network offers the Sony Z5 for sale directly.
Note, WiFi Calling and VoLTE are two separate features but similar network functions on the operators side.
Note, MetroPCS is a sub-brand of the T-Mobile USA network so Metro is pretty much TMo USA.
Since T-Mobile USA does not offer the Z5 you will not be able to get WiFi calling working. In order for WiFi Calling or VoLTE to be supported the network operator must customize the ROM to include the WiFi calling and/or VoLTE network configurations. Unlike the typical SIM card and APN settings which are industry standard and can be adjusted manually. WiFi calling and VoLTE are somewhat more complex and include carrier/network specific security certificates to work. Apple can get away with supporting WiFi calling and VoLTE simply by swapping SIMs because the T-Mobile configs are loaded into their core iOS software which goes out to everyone around the world. (Probaly one of the reasons the iOS eats up so much storage...but i digress) Android runs much leaner and does not carry all the extra configs for all global networks...hence a carrier (i.e. T-Mo US) tweaked version of the Z5 ROM would be required for this all to work.
If T-Mobile USA offers the Z5 in the future you may be able to unlock the boot-loader and flash the T-Mobile specific ROM onto your phone and get WiFi Calling and VoLTE to work. But if T-Mo USA never offers the Z5 then you will never have WiFi calling supported.
Hope that helps....
WiFi calling and VoLTE are pretty much the same thing...just VoIP. And in most operators case WiFi Calling and VoLTE are the same back end network call processing systems. VoLTE is easier for the operator to secure as the customer is using the operators LTE and IP network. WiFi calling is seen on fewer operators as it requires more security since you can access the operators network from any public or private IP network.
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and in theory you could extract the WiFi calling stack form the EE network's Z5 ROM and load it into a custom ROM. That would give you the software capability to support WiFi calling....But you will still need the T-Mobile USA WiFi calling fqdn for the WiFi border controller and their security certificates which are typically specific to a handset model. And again since TMo does not offer the Z5 there are no Z5 certificates.
Ah, well that sucks.
Yeah I feel ya, I love WiFi calling too
Some network providers have their own apps to allow it. Like in the UK, O2 network has an app called TU go
All hope isn't lost - Android M is supposed to have a provision for wifi calling. I've read posts of people with Nexus 6's on M (google play editions, so no carrier specific models) that have been able to use wifi calling. The current loss of band 12 (hoping this will change too) as well as the loss of wifi calling as a fallback has been the only drawback to this otherwise excellent handset. I absolutely love the thing. It just works, no fuss.
I know this isn't helpful, especially for those outside of the US, but this is why I ported my number to google voice a long time ago. VOIP works great over Wifi for me most of the time and when I have LTE reception, I can still use Voip albeit with increased data consumption.
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I know this isn't helpful, especially for those outside of the US, but this is why I ported my number to google voice a long time ago. VOIP works great over Wifi for me most of the time and when I have LTE reception, I can still use Voip albeit with increased data consumption.
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Do you know of any guides for how this is supposed to work? I have Google Voice, and I have Hangouts, but I'm not sure how they're supposed to work in tandem for wi-fi calling. Would I be forced to actually open up the Google Voice app in order to make wi-fi calls? How is that any different from something like Talkatone?
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Do you know of any guides for how this is supposed to work? I have Google Voice, and I have Hangouts, but I'm not sure how they're supposed to work in tandem for wi-fi calling. Would I be forced to actually open up the Google Voice app in order to make wi-fi calls? How is that any different from something like Talkatone?
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Yeah, that's a bit of a pain in the ar$3. I install google voice and hangouts on any phone/tablet I get, Google voice is necessary to route all outgoing calls through GV so that my GV number shows up on my call partner's caller ID. (even though you can dial directly from the native phone dialer) I install Hangouts to manage sms and google talk (now just google hangouts but specified to avoid... or contribute to, (as the case may be) confusion) messages. You can also dial directly from Google Hangouts (this is the only option when you're only using Wifi, without cellular signal) So my thought flow kinda goes like this.
To make a call:
1)check for cell signal, if there is signal, use the native dialer to place a call
2) if there is only WiFi, use hangouts (or hangouts dialer) to place a call
Receiving calls: (If you need help I can tell you the specific settings)
1)when the phone rings, determine if it's ringing via Hangouts or the native phone app
2) check for cellular signal and wifi signal
3) if cell signal is 2g only, only answer with the native phone app (sometimes hangouts will ring first) and I have to wait for the native phone app to realize there is a call coming in (forwarded of course to my cellular provider number from GV)
4)if connected to WiFi, or I have LTE coverage (sometimes even on 3g) pick up the hangouts ring.
Sometimes I do miss calls because I'm waiting for the native phone app to ring when I'm on 2g, but hangouts rings first and the native phone app doesn't ring, but those instances are fairly infrequent and I can just call them back.
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Do you know of any guides for how this is supposed to work? I have Google Voice, and I have Hangouts, but I'm not sure how they're supposed to work in tandem for wi-fi calling. Would I be forced to actually open up the Google Voice app in order to make wi-fi calls? How is that any different from something like Talkatone?
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Also, sorry I've never used Talkatone, so I don't know if it works any differently. You don't have to have google voice installed to make / receive wifi calls via hangouts. you just have to have opted in to hangouts on your google voice account. The ONLY reason I still install GV is to make sure that when I make outgoing calls from the native phone app, my GV number shows up on the recipient's caller ID. They should really just bake this into hangouts and completely depreciate the GV app.
You could port the t-mobile wifi calling apps from the z3. I ported wifi calling to my att g2 from the t-mobile rom. It's not really that hard if you know how to read logcats
Many retail mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , The APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widget7.wifi.calling
Does Rooting allow phone calls and web browsing at the same time on Sprint Galaxy S8 ? Is the phone capable of this. Does it have enough/the right radios?
No, current Sprint phones do not call and data simultaneously over 3G or LTE, including the S8. Rooting has nothing to do with it.
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OK, you say rooting has nothing to do with it. How does an Samsung phone on Sprint prevent concurrent data and voice on LTE when Samsung phone on Verizon allows concurrent data and voice.
It has to be hardware or software on the phone or the network that prevents this.
Is the hardware inside the phone the same which suggests to me the phone's functionality is "throttled" by the phone software or by the network itself, hence my question about whether this can be overcome via rooting the phone.
You apparently can get free hotspot through root, why not call + data?? If you can't I'll accept the reality (I am not looking for alternative facts), just that your answer was insufficient to persuade me that my logic is wrong.
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Paul S
[=LordLugard;72722221]No, current Sprint phones do not call and data simultaneously over 3G or LTE, including the S8. Rooting has nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE]
Sprint doesn't have voice over LTE ....yet. Apparently they are working on software solutions to whatever their network issues are. Found this post from about a month ago on the sprint community site.
Sprint is excited to announce a new solution which allows customers to use voice and data simultaneously while on the Sprint LTE network or WiFi. Calling PLUS has just been enabled on the Samsung J7 Perx, with more devices to receive the update soon!
What you need to know:
Calling PLUS combines two features: one old and one brand new!
WiFi calling - our VoIP calling feature that lets you make and receive calls over WiFi
Voice and text on the Sprint LTE network, allowing simultaneous voice and data
Calling PLUS is delivered to your device by software update. Once your device has received the software, set up is easy!
On the phone, select Settings > Calling PLUS.
Slide Calling PLUS to On.
Customer can view Tutorial pages to learn more information about the service.
View pre-populated address
If the Country field says Non-USA, Select the Country and choose USA.
Enter a USA address manually.
If address is not shown or is incorrect, enter the address manually.
Address must be within the USA.
Select Save.
Your phone will validate the address required for E911 service and completes the enablement of Calling PLUS.
Select Calling PLUS options to enable each feature:
Wi-Fi Calling is On by default.
LTE Calling is optional but recommended to allow both Simultaneous Voice and Data and call handoffs between Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling.
Call handoffs will go from Wi-Fi to LTE even if the LTE Calling switch is Off. LTE Calls require the Wi-Fi Calling switch to be turned On for a handoff to Wi-Fi.
That's it! Your phone is now enabled for Calling PLUS. You can call anyone using Calling PLUS, the person or party that you're calling does not need to have Calling PLUS in order for it to work.
Keep in mind:
Calling PLUS is included free of charge with your Sprint plan, though data usage does count toward any metered data allotment.
Calling PLUS is a only available to select devices at this time and only in areas with LTE service. We will add more device models over time.
Calling PLUS is not a VoLTE solution and call quality can vary based on location and network conditions.
Calling PLUS is only supported on the Sprint LTE network and will not work over roaming partner networks.
Calls initiated while on LTE will not hand off to CDMA towers. When leaving an LTE area, such a call may drop.
Have questions about Calling plus? Ask us here! Have you received the update on your device? Tell us how it's working for you so far.
I've posted about this throughout the board, but I figured it would be better to make a thread since everyone keeps asking about it.
You'll need to install Google Voice and Hangouts Dialer and set them up. That's it. Just use the Hangouts dialer when making a call and it will do it over WiFi. If you wish to have people call you over WiFi, they'll have to call your Google Voice number.
This is a workaround, so you will be dealing with two numbers. Your carrier assigned number and your GV number. In my GV settings I have chosen to use GV for all calls, now I just have to get the number out to people. The other option is to port your current cell number over to GV, and then you won't have to notify anyone.
The VZW signal at my house is terrible, so this is what I do, and I can tell you it works perfectly. Hope this helps some of you with poor wireless reception.
Cheers.
This works so well, and I love the features that GV offers, call screening, texting from your computer, etc, plus the fact that I plan on buying unlocked phones going forward, that I decided to port my number over to Google Voice. Now it doesn't matter if the phone I buy supports my carriers WiFi calling or vice versa, and I'm only dealing with the one number I've had for years. Couldn't be happier.
Yeah, I just called ATT for help provisioning my daughter in law's replacement iPhone and while I had support on the phone I asked them about Wifi Calling and she said that our phone is not on the BYOD list for wifi calling. She said that very few phones are, it;s pretty much the iPhone 6 and 6s at this time.
Which is weird, because wifi-calling isn't even going through their network. That's the point of wifi calling, that you are using your phone on someone's wifi, so why does AT&T even give a rat's a$$ if you do that? So weird...
So if my network provider has WiFi calling as part of my deal as standard will it work without the work around?
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So if my network provider has WiFi calling as part of my deal as standard will it work without the work around?
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If Wifi calling shows up in the settings menu, you should be all set, and won't need this. However, if you're on Verizon, like me, or AT&T like the poster above, chances are it's not showing up in your settings menu. So, if you want to make calls over Wifi, this is the way to go.
In the UK on EE ,importing it via the outrageous Amazon cyber Monday deal
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If Wifi calling shows up in the settings menu, you should be all set, and won't need this. However, if you're on Verizon, like me, or AT&T like the poster above, chances are it's not showing up in your settings menu. So, if you want to make calls over Wifi, this is the way to go.
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I am on AT&T Mexico, wifi calling shows for me in settings but we dont have wifi calling over here yet.
TheDethEgineer said:
I am on AT&T Mexico, wifi calling shows for me in settings but we don't have wifi calling over here yet.
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That's a fine how-do-you. I guess that's another case for GV.
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If Wifi calling shows up in the settings menu, you should be all set, and won't need this. However, if you're on Verizon, like me, or AT&T like the poster above, chances are it's not showing up in your settings menu. So, if you want to make calls over Wifi, this is the way to go.
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I'm on AT&T and wireless calling is in settings. Haven't tested to see if it works yet though
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I'm on AT&T and wireless calling is in settings. Haven't tested to see if it works yet though
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I'm on Verizon so I can't speak for AT&T, but in my case I don't have the option in settings.
Frankly, I don't care about Wifi calling except for that once or twice a year I am both out of cell coverage, but somehow manage to have wifi and need to make a call. With unlimited minutes and data, the need for wifi calling is pretty slim, but it would be nice for that once in a blue moon where you do.
I don't see why AT&T has to "support" the one feature that doesn't go through their network anyway...
After using Google Voice for free home service for about eight years now, I've also gone all in with it on my cell phone. I ported my cell number over to Google Voice, so I don't have to alert anyone of a number change, and I love all the features it offers. I can make/receive calls from my cell, computer, or home phone ( my Wifi ONLY tablet, too, if I want). All using my cell number. The lone home phone will receive calls to both our home phone number and my cell number. Texting can be done from my cell or computer. It offers call screening, call recording, conference calling, visual voicemail, and do not disturb. Finally, it makes all my calls as VOIP (internet) calls. So as long as I have a data signal, be it from my carrier or WiFi, it makes crystal clear calls. I absolutely love it. I wish I had made the switch years ago.
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This works so well, and I love the features that GV offers, call screening, texting from your computer, etc, plus the fact that I plan on buying unlocked phones going forward, that I decided to port my number over to Google Voice. Now it doesn't matter if the phone I buy supports my carriers WiFi calling or vice versa, and I'm only dealing with the one number I've had for years. Couldn't be happier.
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This is Voice over IP (VOIP), not WIFI-Calling. WIFI calling is when your phone can seamlessly transition between cell network and WIFI, so you can receive network calls over wifi.
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This is Voice over IP (VOIP), not WIFI-Calling. WIFI calling is when your phone can seamlessly transition between cell network and WIFI, so you can receive network calls over wifi.
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Thank you, I'm well aware of that, but as I stated in my OP, this is a workaround for those of us who don't have the WiFi calling option.
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I'm on Verizon so I can't speak for AT&T, but in my case I don't have the option in settings.
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Interestingly, after the most recent update, WiFi calling is an option in my settings menu. I'm on Verizon.
1901madison said:
Interestingly, after the most recent update, WiFi calling is an option in my settings menu. I'm on Verizon.
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Does it work?
I don't know. I'll try when I get home tonight.
I can confirm that Wi-Fi calling works for T-Mobile on Oreo beta 1.
I can confirm that too... it works also for t-mobile on 7.1.1 :good:
Works on EE in the UK ,had to switch it on in call settings but working fine