So a friend of mine recently got himself a Nexus 5 but despite checking everyday he's still on 4.4.4 (KTU84P) with no OTA in sight. Sideloading, ADB or anything even remotely technical is not an option so please don't tell me to just push it manually.
So any suggestion on what he can do?
ajpettit said:
Sideloading, ADB or anything even remotely technical is not an option
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Then wait. NOTHING else you can do.
Buys a Nexus 5, already threw ADB out the window.
ajpettit said:
So a friend of mine recently got himself a Nexus 5 but despite checking everyday he's still on 4.4.4 (KTU84P) with no OTA in sight. Sideloading, ADB or anything even remotely technical is not an option so please don't tell me to just push it manually.
So any suggestion on what he can do?
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Why even join XDA if you aren't willing to do anything "even remotely technical"?
ajpettit said:
So a friend of mine recently got himself a Nexus 5 but despite checking everyday he's still on 4.4.4 (KTU84P) with no OTA in sight.
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He's not checking hard enough.
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Why even join XDA if you aren't willing to do anything "even remotely technical"?
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Why did you even reply to my post if you had absolutely nothing to contribute?
Your friend is a genius...
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Why did you even reply to my post if you had absolutely nothing to contribute?
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It was an honest question. It's a nexus 5, and this is XDA. Logic would dictate that a moderately technical method would be the first thing to attempt when it's not happening the regular way. It just doesn't make sense to me. I know I'm not the only person here with the same line of thinking. If you are asking XDA for help, we are gonna say sideload or flash it.
Okay yes it makes sense to just do it manually, it's the first thing I do when I get an android device, but it isn't me, it's not my phone and I was asking was there anything my friend could do. If you don't believe me, fine, not like I care or maybe check out my posting history before casting judgment.
So I'll ask again, in a different way, given the staggered rollout of OTAs, is there a time line as to when the roll out is complete? What happens when the OTA in question is not a current one?
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Okay yes it makes sense to just do it manually, it's the first thing I do when I get an android device, but it isn't me, it's not my phone and I was asking was there anything my friend could do. If you don't believe me, fine, not like I care or maybe check out my posting history before casting judgment.
So I'll ask again, in a different way, given the staggered rollout of OTAs, is there a time line as to when the roll out is complete? What happens when the OTA in question is not a current one?
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Why not just wait?
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Okay yes it makes sense to just do it manually, it's the first thing I do when I get an android device, but it isn't me, it's not my phone and I was asking was there anything my friend could do. If you don't believe me, fine, not like I care or maybe check out my posting history before casting judgment.
So I'll ask again, in a different way, given the staggered rollout of OTAs, is there a time line as to when the roll out is complete? What happens when the OTA in question is not a current one?
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Sideloading the OTA is the exact same as waiting for the OTA. The only difference is that you download the zip yourself instead of waiting for it to show up to download. The actual process is the same because its the exact same file being flashed/sideloaded.
If you are not willing to spend 5 minutes to sideload/flash it, then wait. It could come today, it could come in 6 months. There is no way to tell how long it will be until it's rolled out to you.
Taking into consideration how much against "anything even remotely technical" you are, you should just do it the non-XDA & non-Nexus way and wait like every other device.
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Sideloading the OTA is the exact same as waiting for the OTA. The only difference is that you download the zip yourself instead of waiting for it to show up to download. The actual process is the same because its the exact same file being flashed/sideloaded.
If you are not willing to spend 5 minutes to sideload/flash it, then wait. It could come today, it could come in 6 months. There is no way to tell how long it will be until it's rolled out to you.
Taking into consideration how much against "anything even remotely technical" you are, you should just do it the non-XDA & non-Nexus way and wait like every other device.
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Did you read the OP?
ajpettit said:
Did you read the OP?
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Did you read my post?
Doesn't matter who's Nexus 5 it is. If you're throwing ADB/fastboot out the window then literally the only thing you can do is wait.
Lethargy said:
Did you read my post?
Doesn't matter who's Nexus 5 it is.
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If it doesn't matter who's nexus 5 it is, why don't you do it?
That's right you have no access to it and neither do I!
I asked a question and all I got was a why are you even here response, really helpful guys, thanks, when all you had to say was, nope there's nothing to do but wait.
Damn this thread sucks
Pointless..
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If it doesn't matter who's nexus 5 it is, why don't you do it?
That's right you have no access to it and neither do I!
I asked a question and all I got was a why are you even here response, really helpful guys, thanks, when all you had to say was, nope there's nothing to do but wait.
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I think it was all just a miscommunication. I kinda took it as you not being willing to sideload, as opposed to you being physically unable to, and I'm pretty sure Lethargy did as well. That's where my response came from, and I apologize if it came across as snarky. That said, you should put the pressure on your buddy to sideload. He's got the perfect device to get his toes wet with.
Cheers guys, I know it's easy to get riled up and I'm guilty of it myself in this case too. So I also apologise for getting pissy.
All is well
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Cheers guys, I know it's easy to get riled up and I'm guilty of it myself in this case too. So I also apologise for getting pissy.
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It's all good. Since you didn't mention it in the first place, I assumed you had access to the device but didn't want to because it was your friend's, not that you don't have access at all.
I'd still recommend you tell your friend to sideload it, it's a bit silly to buy a Nexus 5 then use it as if it was an annoying Samsung device. Only takes a few minutes of small effort, he learns something, and gets Lollipop right away - compared to no effort, learning nothing, and waiting patiently for anywhere from days to months.
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If it doesn't matter who's nexus 5 it is, why don't you do it?
That's right you have no access to it and neither do I!
I asked a question and all I got was a why are you even here response, really helpful guys, thanks, when all you had to say was, nope there's nothing to do but wait.
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I believe the answer of Waiting was suggested in the second post
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We all know the Captivate is getting its official 2.2 update in a few months.
My question is, since I rooted my Captivate, will I have to do anything special to update? Or, will I just be able to manually check for updates and It will install automatically from there?
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Seriously?
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I'm an android noob as well and would like to know too.
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Seriously?
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Yes seriously. This is my first personal Android phone.
I would LOVE to see you come into the car audio world and do what I do.
i want to know too, so yea seriously
What a jerk
I don't know if you can update under settings or not, but if you are rooted I would wait for an official CM6 mod. I would think it would another month or two before that comes out.
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Yes seriously. This is my first personal Android phone.
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When we flashed an old ROM on my buddy's G1 and rooted it, we didn't update the phone... he downloaded an OTA update and it flashed the new version to his phone successfully and removed root access. Had to do it all over again
I'm guessing the Captivate will be much the same, however if you are concerned you can always unroot the phone when AT&T/Samsung/Your favorite tech blog let you know OTA updates are being pushed to the Captivate.
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Seriously?
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BEING CYNICAL MAKES ME MORE SMARTER-ER DERRRRRRR
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BEING CYNICAL MAKES ME MORE SMARTER-ER DERRRRRRR
Everybody has to learn from the beginning, just like you evidently have. There's never a dumb question, but plenty of sh*tty teachers & bad examples[/TIRADE]
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I was actually wondering if he was serious. Been so many topics with this discussed in them. Didn't know if he was serious or playing around.
To the OP, I don't know jack bout android, contrary to what you think, but I do read, read and read some more. I had my first fuze for about three months before I got another to start playing with. Before I even got the phone I was reading up on it and learning. So I read and learned winmo for about 6 months before I got on to flashing.
I've been reading about android for the past couple months, been reading bout the captivate for the past week. I must say, about 25% of the topics I read talked about froyo, and at least 4 outa 5 times, someone asked this question. Not to mention all the threads that started with this same question.
So maybe I wrote too fast with my response, but really in my head I was curious if he was serious. This place used to make people have an account for so long before posting, and even longer before you could start a thread. It was for the spammers, but used to make people read. Not sure if thats still in effect, but it sure doesn't seem like it. Look at the guys whove been here for 1, 2, 3 years even and have less than fifty posts, what do you they are doing?
bassahaulic said:
I would LOVE to see you come into the car audio world and do what I do.
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I except your challenge
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I except your challenge
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OH snap! Throw down the gauntlet.
In all seriousness, you can remove root so it will never be a problem. Lets just wait and see what happens.
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We all know the Captivate is getting its official 2.2 update in a few months.
My question is, since I rooted my Captivate, will I have to do anything special to update? Or, will I just be able to manually check for updates and It will install automatically from there?
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Ok really an OTA update for a phone should be no different from a Bios Flash on a PC, as the BIOs flash rewrites primary data to default settings so should the OTA update flash. So when 2.2 froyo flashes the OTA update it should in fact rewrite the phone rom to a default state and return the phone to all stock unrooted settings and return all bloat ware.
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I except your challenge
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> i except your challenge
> except
boborone said:
I was actually wondering if he was serious. Been so many topics with this discussed in them. Didn't know if he was serious or playing around.
To the OP, I don't know jack bout android, contrary to what you think, but I do read, read and read some more. I had my first fuze for about three months before I got another to start playing with. Before I even got the phone I was reading up on it and learning. So I read and learned winmo for about 6 months before I got on to flashing.
I've been reading about android for the past couple months, been reading bout the captivate for the past week. I must say, about 25% of the topics I read talked about froyo, and at least 4 outa 5 times, someone asked this question. Not to mention all the threads that started with this same question.
So maybe I wrote too fast with my response, but really in my head I was curious if he was serious. This place used to make people have an account for so long before posting, and even longer before you could start a thread. It was for the spammers, but used to make people read. Not sure if thats still in effect, but it sure doesn't seem like it. Look at the guys whove been here for 1, 2, 3 years even and have less than fifty posts, what do you they are doing?
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Good story....so how much space did you just waste? I'm sure everyone is thankful for your input, I read the forums everyday and have yet to see a definitive answer on weather or not we'll get OTA updates after we fiddle with our phones. My Nexus could not, I assume the Captivate can't either. I guess we'll have to flash back to stock to receive carrier updates. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.....cus that was the point of this thread right?
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Good story....so how much space did you just waste? I'm sure everyone is thankful for your input, I read the forums everyday and have yet to see a definitive answer on weather or not we'll get OTA updates after we fiddle with our phones. My Nexus could not, I assume the Captivate can't either. I guess we'll have to flash back to stock to receive carrier updates. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.....cus that was the point of this thread right?
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Its all speculation until we see something tangible. Everyone just needs to know we're gonna get that Froyo OTA update installed one way or another.
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Ok really an OTA update for a phone should be no different from a Bios Flash on a PC, as the BIOs flash rewrites primary data to default settings so should the OTA update flash. So when 2.2 froyo flashes the OTA update it should in fact rewrite the phone rom to a default state and return the phone to all stock unrooted settings and return all bloat ware.
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Is this true?
boborone said:
I was actually wondering if he was serious. Been so many topics with this discussed in them. Didn't know if he was serious or playing around.
To the OP, I don't know jack bout android, contrary to what you think, but I do read, read and read some more. I had my first fuze for about three months before I got another to start playing with. Before I even got the phone I was reading up on it and learning. So I read and learned winmo for about 6 months before I got on to flashing.
I've been reading about android for the past couple months, been reading bout the captivate for the past week. I must say, about 25% of the topics I read talked about froyo, and at least 4 outa 5 times, someone asked this question. Not to mention all the threads that started with this same question.
So maybe I wrote too fast with my response, but really in my head I was curious if he was serious. This place used to make people have an account for so long before posting, and even longer before you could start a thread. It was for the spammers, but used to make people read. Not sure if thats still in effect, but it sure doesn't seem like it. Look at the guys whove been here for 1, 2, 3 years even and have less than fifty posts, what do you they are doing?
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I am one of the lurkers...it's true, we're out there reading. I have never asked even one question (I think) from back to two years when I had a winmo Treo750 to HTC Fuze to Captivate now. Read the forums and educate yourself.
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This place used to make people have an account for so long before posting, and even longer before you could start a thread. It was for the spammers, but used to make people read. Not sure if thats still in effect, but it sure doesn't seem like it. Look at the guys whove been here for 1, 2, 3 years even and have less than fifty posts, what do you they are doing?
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LOL Obviously you are not following your own advice under a year with over 150 posts!!! LOL Maybe you should do more reading and less posturing?
I am guilty as well of asking a ton of questions ans starting threads moat of which are answered without the lecture....,,,,Every forum has the self appointed "Forum Police" Apparently now even some have have "cadets in training"
Guys, FROYO (2.2) hasn't been released officially for our Captivates! But no, if you're talking about OTA updates then no, they will not work on our rooted Captivates well. Sometimes you may be able to register an update but it will fail if you are rooted but for MOST captivates it won't even get that far.
Personally, OTA updates are really unreliable so I'd either wait for someone on the dev section to grab it and make it usable for Odin, since that's easier for me and I can reinstall the software if something bad happens.
And no, a new firmware/ROM for our phones isn't like a BIOS update. I'm not sure how the process goes in depth but I'm pretty sure it just installs over the existing software and (if required) changes some settings deep in the phone's bootloader if necessary. Obviously a 2.2 or any other OS upgrade would mean the phone wipes the device first, which is one reason why OTA would not work.
Hope I answered everything?
A few threads have been removed the past few hours. These are regarding a leaked radio which is known to brick devices and has been taken from a compromised server.
Reposting will not be tolerated. Distribution through PM, or even hinting that you may be available to spread it through PM or other methods, will be treated as open reposting. "Vacations" will be dealt out to those who do so.
This is both for your own good as for the good of others. Some of you are able to read between the lines - I have read it in your posts - and good for you.
Have patience, it will come.
if you build it they will come...
Thanks for posting. This should really be a stickied topic as its a highly talked about subject.
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Thanks for posting. This should really be a stickied topic as its a highly talked about subject.
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ahh i see they listend to you
So that new radio that dissapeared is Mega crap also huh? How did wwe figure this out if knowone hardly has it. Just wondering I read it was an older version then the one currently being used by people like me. Is that a fact?
Who exactly did it brick? It is working fine here.
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Who exactly did it brick? It is working fine here.
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+1
and it locks GPS way faster!!
+1..same here...everything just seem smoother or its probably just me
Master™ said:
Who exactly did it brick? It is working fine here.
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I think the important thing is to protect sources. Not sure if it is bricking or not. Though I don't want to be the one to find out.
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I'm not sure, but this probably means GB release is very soon? Wouldn't that make sense?
It got pulled off every site within 2 mins. I just got lucky enough to snag it. But I will not distribute so please no pms asking for it
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I decided not to download it I'll wait and see what the devs say on it.
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bamf team is coming out with a new sense 3.0 rom(there is a preview zip available in the bamf 2 beta thread) so im guessing there is something coming soon, he seemed to stop once the brick issue came about, so why else would they and others update and create new roms for GB radios.
It wont brink you, its just to protect sources and legal issues probably. Im using it and its much better than the first leak, only got one reboot in the few hours my phone was on
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It wont brink you, its just to protect sources and legal issues probably. Im using it and its much better than the first leak, only got one reboot in the few hours my phone was on
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Maybe I should have downloaded it while I had the chance.
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Maybe I should have downloaded it while I had the chance.
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thats kind of how i feel.
Guys please DO NOT PM people asking for it, I have already received one and rejected it. No one wants to get banned over something stupid. You will live I promise. Anyone who receives a PM, whether you think you'll get caught or not, please do the right thing and kindly reject them.
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Guys please DO NOT PM people asking for it, I have already received one and rejected it. No one wants to get banned over something stupid. You will live I promise. Anyone who receives a PM, whether you think you'll get caught or not, please do the right thing and kindly reject them.
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its surprising how people cant wait, im aching to have it as well and pissed i didnt dl it but like the OP said have patience, it will come
and im thinking its a lot sooner rather than later
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/05/18/090518fa_fact_lehrer
seemed on topic with the whole not waiting thing
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its surprising how people cant wait, im aching to have it as well and pissed i didnt dl it but like the OP said have patience, it will come
and im thinking its a lot sooner rather than later
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The fact that we have an MR2 Radio means GB could be right around the corner. I have had one reboot with it, (although that might have been a fluke, as the phone had 3% battery left), and so far it is very stable, and I wouldn't be surprised to see an official build out soon.
Hey all, I came from Samsung Skyrocket- just switched to HTC One X ... and I immediately looked for the JB 4.1.1. I downloaded and installed it. I'm not new to rooting, but did not take the time to read up on the version. The same day I upgraded I quickly found out that it was a big mistake. I was just wondering is there anyone out there working on a root for AT&T 3.18. I read a lot of posts and some speculate there are people somewhere but does anyone know for certain. I love all you Devs on XDA and your dedication. Thanks for reading
I'm sure someone is working on it. There just isn't a thinkthank thread. You should go make one!
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Hey all, I came from Samsung Skyrocket- just switched to HTC One X ... and I immediately looked for the JB 4.1.1. I downloaded and installed it. I'm not new to rooting, but did not take the time to read up on the version. The same day I upgraded I quickly found out that it was a big mistake. I was just wondering is there anyone out there working on a root for AT&T 3.18. I read a lot of posts and some speculate there are people somewhere but does anyone know for certain. I love all you Devs on XDA and your dedication. Thanks for reading
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Well, being that the official JB was released just a few days ago, I doubt it. Just like when a brand new iOS comes to an apple device, it takes time to find the exploits and stuff. If you came from the skyrocket, I would imagine, you would have checked XDA first, before looking into any official sites. That's what I do. Just in case I don't lose my root. When it comes to rooting, you HAVE to take the time to read. Especially with the HTC, it's a multi-step process. With the bootloader unlocking, geting SuperCID, rooting, getting your adb/fastboot working. Just have to be patient. But it is all worth it. I am sure many of the other HTC users in this forum would agree.
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Well, being that the official JB was released just a few days ago, I doubt it. Just like when a brand new iOS comes to an apple device, it takes time to find the exploits and stuff.
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3.18 started rolling out nearly a month ago (approx. March 7). And the OP is asking whether anyone is working on it, not whether an exploit has already been found. So the only way this would be answered conclusively, is if a dev (or devs) responded positively, that they are indeed actively working on it.
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3.18 started rolling out nearly a month ago (approx. March 7). And the OP is asking whether anyone is working on it, not whether an exploit has already been found. So the only way this would be answered conclusively, is if a dev (or devs) responded positively, that they are indeed actively working on it.
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Thanks for the correction. Mis-read it using the app. And it has been that long? It felt like only a few days about the JB update. I would imagine, some devs may be working on it, but as you said, no one knows for sure until a dev responds.
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Thanks for the correction. Mis-read it using the app. And it has been that long? It felt like only a few days about the JB update.
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Yup, its been at least that long. This thread was posted on March 7, but the first reports of it rolling out starting getting posted on March 6, if I remember correctly.
The RUU was posted later on, maybe 2 weeks ago, or a little less.
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Yup, its been at least that long. This thread was posted on March 7, but the first reports of it rolling out starting getting posted on March 6, if I remember correctly.
The RUU was posted later on, maybe 2 weeks ago, or a little less.
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Ah, then that is probably what I am referring to. Anywho, I would imagine a dev would post here first (the forum, not this thread), as these forums are pretty darn popular. But, it never hurts to Google.
Thank for the information fellas... I should have been a little more patient and a little less gung-ho. I was really shooting for someone to say..."I'm working on that right now" but that's ok. I'll just have to wait like the rest of the hundreds if not thousands that were like me. This update is a little jumpy... meaning it freezes up from time to time and reboots every now and then. Not all that smooth because of the bloatware I imagine...Thanks again for the reply's
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I was really shooting for someone to say..."I'm working on that right now" but that's ok.
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You generally almost never see those kinds of posts unless the dev has at least an alpha working or needs testers. The reason being, obviously, is because the moment anyone gets identified as working on the exploit, they get bombarded with nonstop "Are we there yet" posts and PMs.
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You generally almost never see those kinds of posts unless the dev has at least an alpha working or needs testers. The reason being, obviously, is because the moment anyone gets identified as working on the exploit, they get bombarded with nonstop "Are we there yet" posts and PMs.
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Very true. And I'm guessing they probably don't want to get hopes up about something that might not even happen.
Devs often don't say anything unless they think they have it. Some of the exploits for our device have come practically out of nowhere. I remember the original bootloader unlock method (CID spoof), the dev just came on here and posted the method, and was like "sh1t, I didn't even know there was a bounty, thanks for the money!" lol
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You generally almost never see those kinds of posts unless the dev has at least an alpha working or needs testers. The reason being, obviously, is because the moment anyone gets identified as working on the exploit, they get bombarded with nonstop "Are we there yet" posts and PMs.
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Yeah that's understandable, you are correct. I remember when I rooted my skyrocket people were always after the devs...time? How far along messages would popup everywhere. As you can see I've been a member since I got my skyrocket and have never posted once. I always found everything by reading everything. I got use to the speed of my Skyrocket, now I have this HOX as it is referred to here. With the stock it's pretty close to the speed of the skyrocket. But, I know it can be a lot faster with the root and less bloatware. Thanks again guys for the reply's
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Very true. And I'm guessing they probably don't want to get hopes up about something that might not even happen.
Devs often don't say anything unless they think they have it. Some of the exploits for our device have come practically out of nowhere. I remember the original bootloader unlock method (CID spoof), the dev just came on here and posted the method, and was like "sh1t, I didn't even know there was a bounty, thanks for the money!" lol
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But it will happen.....sometime in the next few months I hope. AT&T is always making things difficult 50% their fault,50% mine I guess. Thanks
My Nexus 5 suddenly shut off and never was able to get it back on, I tried just about everything. Luckily, I was able to get a replacement from Google. Now, I am wondering if there is a way to recover some of my files if the phone does not turn on and if so, how?
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No.
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Actually, yes. It's possible. It's also way more involved and risky then most users would be willing to attempt.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2154652
Whoa. Yeah like I said.
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Actually, yes. It's possible. It's also way more involved and risky then most users would be willing to attempt.
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Difficulty aside, that would void warranty too.
We should all agree though that without specialist skills, Knowledge and technology, the answer is no. Basically if someone had all that, they wouldn't be asking the question
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Difficulty aside, that would void warranty too.
We should all agree though that without specialist skills, Knowledge and technology, the answer is no. Basically if someone had all that, they wouldn't be asking the question
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Like I said most users won't attempt it. To say the answer is no is false. There is a way it's just very technical. I gave the info and the OP can do with it as he pleases. I have no idea of the OP's skill level nor would I assume everyone asking the question is incapable of such a thing. To say we should all agree is pretty arrogant. It's a big forum and we all should have our own ideas about what info we chose to convey.
I do see your point, I just don't agree with it. Knowledge is power or so they say. You've got a lot of knowledge and I respect you for that. I have some as well. I chose to share it even though it most likely won't work for the OP. Sorry for the mini rant I just hate being told what I should or shouldn't do.
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Like I said most users won't attempt it. To say the answer is no is false. There is a way it's just very technical. I gave the info and the OP can do with it as he pleases. I have no idea of the OP's skill level nor would I assume everyone asking the question is incapable of such a thing. To say we should all agree is pretty arrogant. It's a big forum and we all should have our own ideas about what info we chose to convey.
I do see your point, I just don't agree with it. Knowledge is power or so they say. You've got a lot of knowledge and I respect you for that. I have some as well. I chose to share it even though it most likely won't work for the OP. Sorry for the mini rant I just hate being told what I should or shouldn't do.
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Well I'm just saying the answer to anyone who ASKS the question is no. Because if they had the tools and skill set to do it, they wouldn't need to ask and if they need to ask, they haven't got the tools or skill set to do it, so I don't think "no" is false. Going by your logic, the answer to almost every question couldn't be "no".
Examples:
- Is it possible to un-brick a bricked device?
- Is it possible to run 4.3 on my N5
- Is it possible to unlock LTE bands
- Is it possible to get T-mobile WiFi Calling?
- Is it possible to get Voice on Verizon
That said, it's actually not been proven on the N5 so far as I am aware either.
I'm not telling you what to do. "We should" is not an order or instruction. It is what we *should do*
...and I do take massive offence to you calling my statement arrogant. How I can I be arrogant about something that I myself do not possess the skills to do? If I could do it and thought others couldn't because I was "better" than them, sure that's arrogance. Also if I assumed that because I couldn't do it, they couldn't either - that too would be arrogant. But that is not the case here. The work is very specialist. To do means you are that specialist. A data recovery specialist doesn't come to XDA and ask "wannabes" such as us how to recover data. That's not a sweeping generalisation either. It is logic.
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The arrogance came from expecting me and others to "agree" to say no. It wasn't meant to be offensive so don't take it as such. More to make you aware of how it came across, to me at least. We could go on and debate this for days but I've said what I had to say. If you'd like to continue it please shoot me a PM. You still have my respect for all the time you spend helping people on these forums and I hope you don't take any of this personally. Have a good night man.
I'm not going to pm you because my pm box is shut.
I'll just say one last thing. I never *expected * anything. *should* was not an instruction as I've already said so please apologise for the "arrogance" statement and we're all good - because yes, I do take it personally. I am a person after all
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I'm not going to pm you because my pm box is shut.
I'll just say one last thing. I never *expected * anything. *should* was not an instruction as I've already said so please apologise for the "arrogance" statement and we're all good - because yes, I do take it personally. I am a person after all
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No worries man. I'm having a very long week at work and just re-read everything. I apologize for the misunderstanding and using arrogant in my replies. I know you're just looking out for the forum.
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No worries man. I'm having a very long week at work and just re-read everything. I apologize for the misunderstanding and using arrogant in my replies. I know you're just looking out for the forum.
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Thanks Dude. I know you didn't have to apologise, but it means a lot to me that you took the time out of your bad week to do so. It did hurt me because unlike most, I really do care what people think about me - for my sins. I have moved on now, so thank you again so much!
Edit > now I feel bad haha
Anyone thought of trying Chainfire's method for rooting the Pixel and PixelXL? Do we know if 7.0 has the same odd partitions that he had to work around as 7.1?
We have unlocked bootloaders (at least on TMO) which is a great start. Anyone want to try this and report back? I'm tempted but I'm at work and if I hose it up, I don't have the time to have my phone temporarily unavailable while reflashing everything.
Thoughts?
Have you asked this question in the pixel forum would be my first thought.
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V20 has been rooted
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/10/chainfire-successfully-gains-root-access-lg-v20.html
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Anyone thought of trying Chainfire's method for rooting the Pixel and PixelXL? Do we know if 7.0 has the same odd partitions that he had to work around as 7.1?
We have unlocked bootloaders (at least on TMO) which is a great start. Anyone want to try this and report back? I'm tempted but I'm at work and if I hose it up, I don't have the time to have my phone temporarily unavailable while reflashing everything.
Thoughts?
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Seriously? You're asking somebody to brick their phone because you're at work? Mods should close this thread.
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Seriously? You're asking somebody to brick their phone because you're at work? Mods should close this thread.
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Easy hard charger. I'm not asking anyone to do anything they're not comfortable with. I asked for thoughts, and the questions already been answered so relax. Nobody's bricking anything, Internet Warrior.
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Seriously? You're asking somebody to brick their phone because you're at work? Mods should close this thread.
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On second thought, rereading my post certain does look like I'm "daring" someone else to try it so my apologies for the retort.
Even though the question was answered just read your second paragraph. Not being an internet warrior. Just sounds like an impatient person asking somebody to risk bricking their phone instead of yours "because I'm at work". C'mon now. There's lots of suckers on xda but some of us don't want those suckers bricking their phones and clogging up the threads like some are already.
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Even though the question was answered just read your second paragraph. Not being an internet warrior. Just sounds like an impatient person asking somebody to risk bricking their phone instead of yours "because I'm at work". C'mon now. There's lots of suckers on xda but some of us don't want those suckers bricking their phones and clogging up the threads like some are already.
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Look, I already admitted my mistake and clarified my intention. No need to beat a dead horse, alright?
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Look, I already admitted my mistake and clarified my intention. No need to beat a dead horse, alright?
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Lol. We basically posted at same time and I didn't see your post above mine. Sorry for kicking the dead horse.
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Lol. We basically posted at same time and I didn't see your post above mine. Sorry for kicking the dead horse.
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No worries, brother! It happens. Stupid horse...
Funny story: this was attempted shortly before jcadduono finished his verity & force encrypt disabler and started rolling out TWRP betas. Chainfire took some time out of his night to adapt his boot-to-root method to a brave volunteer's V20, and it did work. A custom recovery.img was fitted with a supersu.zip, several files from the Pixel boot-to-root release, and a heavily modified sepolicy; written directly to the recovery partition from a root shell.