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[Q] Anyone using the Omnia 7 in the US on AT&T

Is anyone using the Samsung Omnia 7 on AT&T? I know it has support for AT&T's 1900 band for 3G but wanted to know how the experience is. I'm in Germany this week and was hoping to see if I can pick one up [not really happy with any of the AT&T phones].
Also, with updates possibly being controlled by carriers what's the workaround for buying an unlocked device from overseas and using it in the US on AT&T?
Thx!

can't tell you about omnia on at&t, but as far as i'm aware if your phone is unlocked from carrier, i don't see any reason/possibility for them to delay an update being rolled to your phone.

Cool, thx.

You should be able to get updates via the Zune software.

I'm sorry. this is my first post for this forum. Im not educated on on the compatibility of the EU phones on US carriers....
But is this really possible? I really like the SS Omnia the best so far.
an unlocked ominia will work perfectly fine on AT&T?

it will work perfectly.. except for the lack of 3G. The omnia lacks the all important 850 band at&t uses... and the 1700 band tmobile uses.

An explanation for "The omnia lacks the all important 850 band at&t uses" would be useful as AT&T also supports 3G on the 1900 band that the Omnia 7 supports. So seems like it should work...

shujaa said:
An explanation for "The omnia lacks the all important 850 band at&t uses" would be useful as AT&T also supports 3G on the 1900 band that the Omnia 7 supports. So seems like it should work...
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Dependa on the tower. Lacking tje 850 band is a big deal on att.
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Thanks for that response. I really wanted to see if I could sneak away with the omnia as the focus isn't really as good

shujaa said:
Thanks for that response. I really wanted to see if I could sneak away with the omnia as the focus isn't really as good
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One advantage with the Focus is it has an SD card slot to extend storage.
If you use you phone for music,movies and games it's a big +.

N8ter said:
Dependa on the tower. Lacking tje 850 band is a big deal on att.
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lacking 850 is not a problem since only mayor citied like new york, san fran, dallas etc. have 850 and the majority of normal city only have 1900. so 1900 is fine given you don't have access to hsdpa and hsupa, only regular 3g. now if only i can find an unlock omnia 7 under $650.

akachay said:
lacking 850 is not a problem since only mayor citied like new york, san fran, dallas etc. have 850 and the majority of normal city only have 1900. so 1900 is fine given you don't have access to hsdpa and hsupa, only regular 3g. now if only i can find an unlock omnia 7 under $650.
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There are maps available showing coverage for each AT&T 3G frequency band. I wouldn't dismiss one band over the other. It all depends on what city you live in.
Check into the coverage areas before you waste money on a phone that won't give you 3G coverage in your area.

Very interesting as I googled AT&T 850 vs. 1900 MHz Coverage and pulled up a very interesting map [can't post a link due to my post count].
Coverage of the two bands is almost identical. I didn't know that speed is something to give up on the 1900 band though.
Good info. Yeah, I'm in Europe this week and no one is offering it unlocked!

here's the maps.
http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
my question would be though, which is the band they are going to expand going forward???

so what's the difference between these bands? the phone does both so you would be "covered" so to speak

Krissrock said:
so what's the difference between these bands? the phone does both so you would be "covered" so to speak
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I'll be asking at an AT&T store, perhaps they can shed some light...

i personally am not sure if all phones handle the varying bands straight from the OEMs. HTC lists what bands their phone supports to each region, but in saying that it would be good to know what would happen if you got a omnia to the US (or in my case if i somehow managed to get an unlocked focus to australia ).

Krissrock said:
so what's the difference between these bands? the phone does both so you would be "covered" so to speak
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I don't think the phone supports at&t's 850mhz band.

according to this it does
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pd...icially_confirmed_windows_phone_7_smartphones
and this
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8700_omnia_7-3537.php
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS1900, UMTS2100
CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
From what i've heard, ATT doesn't even really use the 850 spectrum much anymore...

Several people are selling this new on eBay for ~$600, but it does not support 3G. As per the one auction details:
* Works with AT&T and T-mobile EDGE but does not work with 3G networks in the USA
* Works with AT&T 1900Mhz 3G but not AT&T 850mhz 3G - Does not work with T-mobile 3G in the USA
I love the design of this phone too but is it worth paying all that money for a phone where you won't be able to take advantage of all its features? Edge is slow as Sh*t compared to 3g in my area. Just consider that if you really want this phone in the US.

[Q] Could the Atrix be hacked to work on t-mobile?

It does operate on GSM but I don't know if t-mobile's HSDPA network would be compatible. I'm so disappointed that there are no good android phones announced for t-mobile at CES

Actually rumor has it that the LG Optimus 2x will be coming to T-Mobile.
Damonkashu said:
It does operate on GSM but I don't know if t-mobile's HSDPA network would be compatible. I'm so disappointed that there are no good android phones announced for t-mobile at CES
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I'm more interested in the higher resolution screen of the atrix

Damonkashu said:
I'm more interested in the higher resolution screen of the atrix
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And the monster battery.
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No. I am assuming that Motorola didn't pentaband this phone and you are stuck to using EDGE if you are on T-Mobile.

http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix-3709.php
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
I don't know about US but this means it will work on every Australian carrier, toot!

That sucks. I'm on Mobilcity in Canada and I hope to give my G1 to my dad and get a Atrix if it comes to t-mobile.

It sucks that t-mobile always gets lame phones.
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T-Mobile Compromise on great phones
T-Mobile ranks 4th (practically Last Place) in US because they hardly ever get the latest great phones. They always are a step or two below what the top 3 have. Atrix for AT&T but Cliq-2 for T-Mo!!! what a difference. I've been with T-Mo for over 7 years & every time a great phone is announced I want to switch carrier and I finally decided to switch in order to get the Atrix. Hope, Moto learn from Samsung Galaxy & start releasing it to all carriers.

Tmobile was the first GHZ phone in the US, the ever popular HD2 anyone, which is still alive and kicking even today.

Just wait a few months. AT&T acquired tmobile and will be fully integrated by December (rumoured).

AT&T LTE Phones on T-Mobile's LTE network

So T-Mobile seems to be ramping up their LTE coverage and my area seems to be one of the LTE markets.
I was wondering, would now be a good time to buy an AT&T Android LTE phone (like the Note 2 or GS3)?
I'm not entirely clear if the LTE on those AT&T phones will work with the current/future T-Mobile LTE network.
Right now I'm currently using an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile. I get spotty 3G coverage since I'm in one of the 1900MHz refarmed areas. Would using an AWS LTE compatible AT&T phone let me get T-Mobile LTE service?
Is T-Mobile eventually going to get rid of their 3G service on the 1700MHz frequency so they can use it for LTE and then put their 3G service on the 1900MHz frequency?
I can't afford a brand new phone, but when it comes to used phones it always seems that AT&T ones are cheaper to buy than T-Mobile equivalent.

Outrager said:
So T-Mobile seems to be ramping up their LTE coverage and my area seems to be one of the LTE markets.
I was wondering, would now be a good time to buy an AT&T Android LTE phone (like the Note 2 or GS3)?
I'm not entirely clear if the LTE on those AT&T phones will work with the current/future T-Mobile LTE network.
Right now I'm currently using an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile. I get spotty 3G coverage since I'm in one of the 1900MHz refarmed areas. Would using an AWS LTE compatible AT&T phone let me get T-Mobile LTE service?
Is T-Mobile eventually going to get rid of their 3G service on the 1700MHz frequency so they can use it for LTE and then put their 3G service on the 1900MHz frequency?
I can't afford a brand new phone, but when it comes to used phones it always seems that AT&T ones are cheaper to buy than T-Mobile equivalent.
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It has been my understanding that AT&T and T-Mobile smartphones are network cross-compatible because they use the same bands for HSPDA and LTE. So as long as you have the following, you should be good to go.
First and most important: ***Phone Unlocked***
The correct sim for the carrier.
The correct APN settings for the carrier. (If this isn't auto-populated after the new sim is in the phone, you can search here on XDA for them.)
Lastly, apply any patches/fixes/tweaks for the particular device where needed. (if needed)
As for this network cross-compatibility changing in the future, odds are that it probably will not happen any time soon as this would be very costly for the carrier to change so soon after launching the LTE service. Post-LTE, maybe, but that is at least another 10 years away if I had to guess. :fingers-crossed:

[Q] May I get full 3G coverage in U.S. having the phone with such specs

I'd like to buy Meizu M1 Note having such frequency support:
LTE-FDD:B1/B3,TD-LTE:B38/B41,WCDMA: 900/1900/2100MHz,GSM:900/1800MHz/1900MHZ
I feel there is no LTE compatibility with US carriers, but at least may I get FULL 3G coverage of some carrier?
I counted on AT&T only, but this phone seems to lack 850 MHz support, that could mean that 3G coverage would be limited...?
Or maybe I'm wrong or missed other options??

alexandis said:
I'd like to buy Meizu M1 Note having such frequency support:
LTE-FDD:B1/B3,TD-LTE:B38/B41,WCDMA: 900/1900/2100MHz,GSM:900/1800MHz/1900MHZ
I feel there is no LTE compatibility with US carriers, but at least may I get FULL 3G coverage of some carrier?
I counted on AT&T only, but this phone seems to lack 850 MHz support, that could mean that 3G coverage would be limited...?
Or maybe I'm wrong or missed other options??
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It doesnt have to do with the specs of the phone about your 3G coverage. It depends upon your carrier which area it covers! If your phone has gsm and UMTS network support than yes it would have 3G no matter what the specs are! :thumbup:
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Your coverage should be OK with either T-Mobile or AT&T. It does depend on the area though. AT&T typically has better area coverage, but T-Mobile has better 3G speeds where present.

Planterz said:
Your coverage should be OK with either T-Mobile or AT&T. It does depend on the area though. AT&T typically has better area coverage, but T-Mobile has better 3G speeds where present.
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I hope. I had Alcatel before, its UMTS frequencies include only 900 and 2100 MHz, so I suffered on GPRS speed with T-Mobile... So I count on 1900 MHz now.

alexandis said:
I hope. I had Alcatel before, its UMTS frequencies include only 900 and 2100 MHz, so I suffered on GPRS speed with T-Mobile... So I count on 1900 MHz now.
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A true "world phone" would suit you better. The problem with using a Chinese phone is that bands are often limited. Something like a Nexus 4 or 5, or Moto G with quad-band GSM and quad/penta-band UMTS would give you more coverage and versatility around the world.

Planterz said:
A true "world phone" would suit you better. The problem with using a Chinese phone is that bands are often limited. Something like a Nexus 4 or 5, or Moto G with quad-band GSM and quad/penta-band UMTS would give you more coverage and versatility around the world.
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I know that Sony or Samsung would serve me better in this case, because they support a bunch of frequencies for all possible cases and countries. But they are overpriced a lot. Besides, Sony now is not an audio smartphone at all.
It's just that my preference is not only frequency support, but a lot of other factors. I used to have Samsung a while ago, but since then I have switched to using other brands. And Meizu and BBK VIVO are my favorites for great sound (important for me) and decent price. Now when Meizu produced dual SIM phone as answer to my prayers, I've decided to buy it. And if 1900 is enough to get some 3G - it's fine with me

upgrade

I am currently using the oneplus one, but like to try the galaxy note 5. I saw this one on ebay and wonder if this will work with tmobile 4G LTE Band.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Samsung...locked-GOLD-/361372540381?hash=item54237b5ddd
It saids LTE B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/25/26/28/38/39/40/41 from his listing.
But does tmobile use 1700/2100MHz is it band 4?
Just little afraid getting it from overseas in case no LTE with tmobile

Based on the supported bands it will work with most Tmobile bands except HSPA (3G) on the 1700 band. You will also not have WiFi calling or VoLTE on band 12 since it's not a certified device. You would be better off buying the tmobile note 5 N920T unless those things I mentioned don't matter to you.
Supported Bands:
2G/Voice Bands: 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA Bands: 850/900/1900/2100
LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/17/25/26/28/38/39/40/41
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Oh ya, I totally forgot about the wifi calling features. from tmobile. I will get the tmobile note 5 instead then. Thanks for the details information.
jmerlos said:
Based on the supported bands it will work with most Tmobile bands except HSPA (3G) on the 1700 band. You will also not have WiFi calling or VoLTE on band 12 since it's not a certified device. You would be better off buying the tmobile note 5 N920T unless those things I mentioned don't matter to you.
Supported Bands:
2G/Voice Bands: 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA Bands: 850/900/1900/2100
LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/17/25/26/28/38/39/40/41
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Found a local seller here for a brand new tmobile phone. $500 I texted him earlier regarding the phone.
Good thing I ask is the phone already paid off. I am sure some buyer don't remember to ask then end up having problem.
http://postimg.org/image/7n0fap6jl/

benzso63 said:
Found a local seller here for a brand new tmobile phone. $500 I texted him earlier regarding the phone.
Good thing I ask is the phone already paid off. I am sure some buyer don't remember to ask then end up having problem.
http://postimg.org/image/7n0fap6jl/
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If the phone is not paid off I would not buy it. I would use an upgrade, Jump or Jump on Demand. Jump on Demand would probably be best if you like to switch phones often.