I have a rooted stock 11s ROM with TWRP recovery. I can't stand the random reboots anymore. I've seen the plausible explanation that the problem is driver-related, probably wifi. There are claims that the factory sent out ROMs with a defective system partition. I've seen purported solutions for that theory including total wiping (including system) and reflashing stock. I've seen claims that flashing a kernel is the answer. Most of this seems to be speculation. And a lot of it takes place outside XDA. I know this is the best place to come for smart answers.
Please propose any solution that might have worked for you. And-- if you reach me by 18:30 Pacific time (US) with a rational message, I have something to convey that a non-owner would love to have.
Thanks folks!
Are you on the latest CM11s? Never had a random reboot, maybe try factory resetting it and installing apps fromplaystore all over again? Restoring apps from Titanium Backup can cause weird issues sometimes. Esp if its a new device.
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I have a rooted stock 11s ROM with TWRP recovery. I can't stand the random reboots anymore. I've seen the plausible explanation that the problem is driver-related, probably wifi. There are claims that the factory sent out ROMs with a defective system partition. I've seen purported solutions for that theory including total wiping (including system) and reflashing stock. I've seen claims that flashing a kernel is the answer. Most of this seems to be speculation. And a lot of it takes place outside XDA. I know this is the best place to come for smart answers.
Please propose any solution that might have worked for you. And-- if you reach me by 18:30 Pacific time (US) with a rational message, I have something to convey that a non-owner would love to have.
Thanks folks!
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The problem with this situation is that there can be way too many causes for random reboots, we're talking dozens and dozens and dozens. So pinpointing exactly what's causing your particular device to reboot is virtually impossible. Your best solution? Go to this thread and use that automated tool to perform a wipe and bring your phone back to an entirely stock state.
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SilentRazor said:
Are you on the latest CM11s? Never had a random reboot, maybe try factory resetting it and installing apps fromplaystore all over again? Restoring apps from Titanium Backup can cause weird issues sometimes. Esp if its a new device.
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Not really. I've flashed thousands of times and I restore my apps with Titanium every single time, I never, ever have problems. As long as you don't do something stupid like restoring system data then TiBu is perfectly safe to use.
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I'm having the same issue.
44S, rooted, TWRP. No Xposed, no themes, no icon packs and each day the reboots are getting worse. I've read the same thing about a faulty partition being a culprit and am going to try the tool linked above to see if that has any impact.
If you are still inside the 45 day window of purchase, I would suggest opening a ticket with Oneplus. It would be worth getting the issues documented as early as possible so you can have a valid claim for a warranty repair if it comes to that.
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I'm having the same issue.
If you are still inside the 45 day window of purchase, I would suggest opening a ticket with Oneplus. It would be worth getting the issues documented as early as possible so you can have a valid claim for a warranty repair if it comes to that.
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Thanks for your wise suggestion! I just followed your advice. At least it gives me one possible option. I love the phone when it's not rebooting. But it's already rebooted a couple times just as a call was coming in!!!
Don't attribute the problem to Titanium Backup
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I've flashed thousands of times and I restore my apps with Titanium every single time, I never, ever have problems. As long as you don't do something stupid like restoring system data then TiBu is perfectly safe to use.
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I agree.
I have used Titanium Backup on numerous Android devices from a variety of manufacturers-- including CyanogenMod 7 on my Nexus One. It's never been the cause of problems. And I also agree that the only reason Titanium restores would cause a problem is if you're restoring "foreign" system apps.
I don't have any confidence that using the official tool would solve the problem-- especially if the theory about the defective system partition image is the correct one-- I might just be reinstalling the same problem.
I'm more inclined to try the solution by echew010 in this thread:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/random-reboot.232446/
But I am not sure how bold I want to be. I'm not afraid of the concept of totally wiping the system partion. And it wouldn't be the first time I've had to rebuild a device all the way up to restoring apps from Titanium Backup. But it's such a pain. Maybe this weekend if nothing else turns up.
Two hours until my invitation expires. Anyone interested? Private me.
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I don't have any confidence that using the official tool would solve the problem-- especially if the theory about the defective system partition image is the correct one-- I might just be reinstalling the same problem.
I'm more inclined to try the solution by echew010 in this thread:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/random-reboot.232446/
But I am not sure how bold I want to be. I'm not afraid of the concept of totally wiping the system partion. And it wouldn't be the first time I've had to rebuild a device all the way up to restoring apps from Titanium Backup. But it's such a pain. Maybe this weekend if nothing else turns up.
Two hours until my invitation expires. Anyone interested? Private me.
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I'm not sure who's saying it's a corrupt system partition, I really don't think that's the case, if it were corrupt your phone wouldn't boot at all. Plus, the tool I linked to is perfectly fine, if there were something wrong with it then all of the people who have used it would be suffering all kinds of problems. You won't be reinstalling the same problem. That is your best option.
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Plus, that fix you linked to one the OnePlus forum is almost doing the same thing, but it is missing some steps, and it would take longer. If you don't have confidence in the official tool then by the same logic you shouldn't have confidence in this other fix either, they both install official builds of CM11S onto your device. The official tool is more thorough, it is quicker, it is what you should be doing.
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I haves the same Problem with 44s. I try to revert back to 33r so I don't have random reboots
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I'm not sure who's saying it's a corrupt system partition, I really don't think that's the case, if it were corrupt your phone wouldn't boot at all. Plus, the tool I linked to is perfectly fine, if there were something wrong with it then all of the people who have used it would be suffering all kinds of problems. You won't be reinstalling the same problem. That is your best option.
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Plus, that fix you linked to one the OnePlus forum is almost doing the same thing, but it is missing some steps, and it would take longer. If you don't have confidence in the official tool then by the same logic you shouldn't have confidence in this other fix either, they both install official builds of CM11S onto your device. The official tool is more thorough, it is quicker, it is what you should be doing.
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You've convinced me with your logic that the official tool is the preferable approach of the two. I probably will try it in the next few days.
By the way, I followed advice to open a support ticket with OnePlus. Someone got back to me within 24 hours. I was asked to send them a video showing a random reboot. Am I supposed to keep a camera pointed on my phone 24 hours while waiting for a reboot?
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I haves the same Problem with 44s. I try to revert back to 33r so I don't have random reboots
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How long ago did you revert? Did the random reboots stop completely? Or do they just happen less frequently?
I'm on the same boat. Support is totally useless. For the past month or so they keep asking me to send them a video showing that my phone is rebooting randomly and all kinds of similar stupid requests.
I saw people talking about racing conditions when the device's storage is encrypted. For me this is a must or I won't get corp email. But I went through the various tools that would make me 100% "factory clean" and yet, the phone reboots just by sitting on my desk.
When I had encryption enabled, I'd come back home from work and find it beeping at the enter your password to decrypt screen. Now I keep it super clean, and don't encrypt it, don't do anything but enter my google ID/passwd to setup the device as new. When I check it, uptime is rarely more than an hour or two, so it reboots again, but comes back to a working state. I wonder if people, generally not encrypting, don't even notice when their device reboots.
I've finally got forwarded to some RMA person who said he'd send me the papers to get a new phone. Unfortunately, that has also taken days of silence now.
Very frustrating I can't use the OPO with its original ROM, after many years of flashing all kinds of ROMs to anything from Nexus One to my the N5 I went back to until the OPO gets fixed, to several Samsungs, LGs and HTCs and having FCs, some reboots, very stable builds, but never anything like this.
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The problem with this situation is that there can be way too many causes for random reboots, we're talking dozens and dozens and dozens. So pinpointing exactly what's causing your particular device to reboot is virtually impossible.
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Of course you are correct that there are many variables that can be the immediate cause of the reboots. But what cannot be denied is that so many users are experiencing the problem across various CyanogenMod versions. Because there are so many users, it's hard to believe that it's a few buggy user-installed apps causing the problem.
My favorite theory is that OnePlus has defective drivers. It reminds me of the effort to create custom ROMs for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 (GT-P6800). Samsung would not or could not release the wifi driver into the developer community. Same story with the ASUS Transformer TF101. ROM developers created pretty good ROMs but their degree of success depended heavily on whether they could scavenge drivers from cousin products. The Transformer efforts succeeded. The Galaxy Tab 7.7 custom ROMs still have some anomalies.
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I'm on the same boat. Support is totally useless. For the past month or so they keep asking me to send them a video showing that my phone is rebooting randomly and all kinds of similar stupid requests.
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I created two videos.
One shows a UI freezing issue that I experience periodically. I'm guessing it's a defect in interfaces to the Android System UI module.
The other demonstrates how the phone has rebooted on a few occasions when it receives an incoming call.
I saw people talking about racing conditions when the device's storage is encrypted. For me this is a must or I won't get corp email. But I went through the various tools that would make me 100% "factory clean" and yet, the phone reboots just by sitting on my desk.
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I am betting that it's not the encryption itself that's the underlying cause. My guess is that the encryption/decription software layer is just more intensively interacting with an underlying bug or defect. Could it be a defect in physical memory? A poorly formed system partition? (One of the contributors here made a credible dismissal of that theory.)
I've finally got forwarded to some RMA person who said he'd send me the papers to get a new phone. Unfortunately, that has also taken days of silence now.
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Please keep us updated when/if OnePlus does follow up on this.
Very frustrating I can't use the OPO with its original ROM, after many years of flashing all kinds of ROMs to anything from Nexus One to my the N5 I went back to until the OPO gets fixed, to several Samsungs, LGs and HTCs and having FCs, some reboots, very stable builds, but never anything like this.
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We agree. I have had quite a stable of Android devices. But nothing like this coming direct from the manufacturer. I really like the phone when it's running properly. The display could be better in daylight but I could live with that. I suspect that the next OnePlus handset will benefit from lessons in their first release. I just don't want to suffer because I voted for a promising startup.
OnePlus would be wise to humbly acknowledge that there are two widely experienced problems: random reboots and periodic UI freezes. And then if they want to stick around they have to release a ROM that completely eliminates those two showstopper defects.
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How long ago did you revert? Did the random reboots stop completely? Or do they just happen less frequently?
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Last week Wednesday. Until now I have no reboots.
About 12 hours ago I did a clean flash to the official SlimROM 4.44. I followed the instructions on the official website. (I've linked to the site in the previous sentence.)
Immediately the phone seemed to be running smoother. No UI freezing and no random reboots so far. I can't be sure whether simply wiping the partitions solved the problem or whether it was something about 11s. But I like the features of SlimROM well enough that I don't feel the need to test other ROMs yet.
I'll come back here if the problems come back.
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About 12 hours ago I did a clean flash to the official SlimROM 4.44. I followed the instructions on the official website. (I've linked to the site in the previous sentence.)
Immediately the phone seemed to be running smoother. No UI freezing and no random reboots so far. I can't be sure whether simply wiping the partitions solved the problem or whether it was something about 11s. But I like the features of SlimROM well enough that I don't feel the need to test other ROMs yet.
I'll come back here if the problems come back.
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It's the end of the business day. The phone has not caused any problems or surprises. If this phone came out of the box in this new state, I would have been a much happier person for the past three weeks!
Well i've also tried echew010's solution and so far it seems promising! To anyone suffering from random reboots this is what i did: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...us-one-stock-cm11-t2839870/page5#post59362462
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Hello, I'm back again, in the Q&A section.
So I found a few threads regarding the touch screen on other phones, but I want to ask here so I can be sure...
So a little while after permanently rooting my phone, the touch screen started acting weird... To be specific, I downloaded Dotty, to see where it shows you where the point on the touch screen registers, and near the top, at a little horizontal sliver of the screen, any time I touch there it splits up the point into two different points, right outside of that sliver.
It's made that very difficult to select certain things on the screen, but sometimes the problem goes away after locking and unlocking the phone.
I just want to confirm with someone that this doesn't have to do with a bad ROM or a mistake on my part, as I've flashed multiple ROMS, and gotten the same results. I also tried wiping the phone, but no luck.
The ROM I'm currently using is MikShift - v1.01
If this is a hardware issue, then I guess I'll just have to remove any evidence of rooting the device, and take it to a store, but I was hoping if anyone else has any insight on this.
Thank you.
P.S. I've only had this phone for around 3 or 4 days.
Whitellama said:
Hello, I'm back again, in the Q&A section.
So I found a few threads regarding the touch screen on other phones, but I want to ask here so I can be sure...
So a little while after permanently rooting my phone, the touch screen started acting weird... To be specific, I downloaded Dotty, to see where it shows you where the point on the touch screen registers, and near the top, at a little horizontal sliver of the screen, any time I touch there it splits up the point into two different points, right outside of that sliver.
It's made that very difficult to select certain things on the screen, but sometimes the problem goes away after locking and unlocking the phone.
I just want to confirm with someone that this doesn't have to do with a bad ROM or a mistake on my part, as I've flashed multiple ROMS, and gotten the same results. I also tried wiping the phone, but no luck.
The ROM I'm currently using is MikShift - v1.01
If this is a hardware issue, then I guess I'll just have to remove any evidence of rooting the device, and take it to a store, but I was hoping if anyone else has any insight on this.
Thank you.
P.S. I've only had this phone for around 3 or 4 days.
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I think this is probably a problem with the hardware. I remember several months ago other people reporting the same problem, maybe just a batch of bad devices. Touchscreen should be %100 functional regardless of the ROM your using.
Okay, that's kind of a downer,thanks anyways though.
#1 thing I have noticed with touchscreen problems: CLEAN THE SCREEN WITH A PAPER TOWEL AND ALCOHOL!!!
2) Uninstall dotty.
3) If that doesn't work, try running fix permissions from clockwork.
4) If that doesn't work there is a touchscreen calibration app in the market I forget what it's called.
5) If that doesn't work wipe the phone completely, and try flashing the latest Cyanogenmod nightly and the latest google apps and see if you have the same problem.
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I think this is probably a problem with the hardware. I remember several months ago other people reporting the same problem, maybe just a batch of bad devices. Touchscreen should be %100 functional regardless of the ROM your using.
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You are too quick.
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Okay, that's kind of a downer,thanks anyways though.
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well if you have only had the phone a couple days they should replace the phone no questions asked.
I'll try these...
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#1 thing I have noticed with touchscreen problems: CLEAN THE SCREEN WITH A PAPER TOWEL AND ALCOHOL!!!
2) Uninstall dotty.
3) If that doesn't work, try running fix permissions from clockwork.
4) If that doesn't work there is a touchscreen calibration app in the market I forget what it's called.
5) If that doesn't work wipe the phone completely, and try flashing the latest Cyanogenmod nightly and the latest google apps and see if you have the same problem.
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You are too quick.
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Thank you for the options, I was only assuming it was a hardware problem because everywhere else I looked online, with other phones, that's what people said. I'll try all of these things, and post on the results.
EDIT: Okay, I uninstalled Dotty ( I'm not sure what the point of that was, however), I tried the fix permissions, and I couldn't find the calibration app. If anyone knows where it is, that sounds useful, but I searched and searched. Next, I guess I'll just have to find something optimal for cleaning screens, since I don't think we have alcohol anywhere. I'll try flashing Cyanogen too, since that's easy. Also, there have been times when the touch screen stops working completely.
No luck
Okay, I've tried all of the above, without luck. I'm all ears if anyone has any final advice, but it's really not that much of a hassle to restore everything to the factory default, and take it down to a Sprint Store.
I'm not quite sure how to set everything back to how it was when I got the phone, yet, but I imagine there are guides for that already.
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Okay, I've tried all of the above, without luck. I'm all ears if anyone has any final advice, but it's really not that much of a hassle to restore everything to the factory default, and take it down to a Sprint Store.
I'm not quite sure how to set everything back to how it was when I got the phone, yet, but I imagine there are guides for that already.
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Just run RUU
I've already got it back to default, but that probably would've been a faster idea. XD Thanks anyways, though.
Whitellama said:
I've already got it back to default, but that probably would've been a faster idea. XD Thanks anyways, though.
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No problem buddy! Good luck and let us know how it goes!
Superuser is still around
So like always, I apparently missed the fact that superuser is still on the phone, and quite difficult to remove...
So would flashing the radio fix that? I've dug around a little, but I'm not quite sure which file I should be flashing, or where I can get it.
Whitellama said:
So like always, I apparently missed the fact that superuser is still on the phone, and quite difficult to remove...
So would flashing the radio fix that? I've dug around a little, but I'm not quite sure which file I should be flashing, or where I can get it.
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If your planning on taking it back to Sprint you'll need to turn s-on, not just remove super user. Run the ruu, you can find mirror at the bottom of the first post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255474
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I have had this problem with two Shifts, and both were replaced by Sprint as faulty hardware. It is quite annoying. I would RUU and take it back.
Yep, I do intend on taking it back.
And thank you crump, I'd be lost without all the awesome people like you on this forum.
I'll do that.
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So I checked the page, and all I see is stuff about 2.2... The phone came with 2.3 so this might be a dumb statement but I'm assuming that I'm to run the 2.2 RUU, and upgrade normally back up to 2.3 from there. If I'm wrong, please let me know, otherwise, I'll have at it.
You could also just use the 2.3 RUU for GB. It's posted on THIS thread.
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You could also just use the 2.3 RUU for GB. It's posted on THIS thread.
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OR you could just run the 2.2 ruu and not update and let them know you were rooted as a sign of your anger and protest
but thatll probably just piss them off and not replace it....I would personally do it tho
That suggestion made me smile, but I don't want to take any chances...
And thank you for the 2.3 RUU link! I will download at once!
Welp, my phone just started this too. This marks number 4 for me. I'm getting tired of replacing these things. It's been an average of 1 every two months!
Econ212 said:
Welp, my phone just started this too. This marks number 4 for me. I'm getting tired of replacing these things. It's been an average of 1 every two months!
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Seriously? I've had the same shift since day 1! That scares the crap out of me if mine ever actually does break. Are they making/refurbing them with cheap lower quality parts or what?
You could revert back to 2.2 and accept the ota... That should load the new hboot. If that doesnt work then i dont know. Most roms Ive had turns off the ota. For good reason i might add. But you can get a hold of one that you can turn it on with. Or get stock 2.2 and update.
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Hey, guys. Hoping some of you experts can help me diagnose what's wrong with my Samsung Infuse. I bought it off Craigslist at the end of May, and the guy had the phone with the original screen protector on it, with the original case and all accessories, so I had no reason to believe it had any problems. He told me the phone was already rooted & unlocked, which I wanted since I signed up with Straight Talk. I used it for June & July and had a host of problems, so I put on the CM10 ROM last week to see if it helped. It didn't. Here are the problems I continuously encounter:
1. When going to unlock my phone with a pattern, once in awhile it won't detect my finger-presses. Sometimes nothing shows up at all, sometimes one of the dots will highlight as I pass over it, but it won't draw. Eventually the screen turns off, and I turn it on and try it again. Usually it ends up working.
2. The battery dies much quicker than I expect it should. I tried running JuiceDefender and not running JuiceDefender, and it doesn't seem to make a difference. Even without using my phone much for anything, even with the screen off, the battery will run out before the day is out. It's like if you were driving and had a hole in your tire... seems like some sort of a leak.
3. The cell radio seems flaky. Sometimes I won't get texts on time. A lot of the time I can't access any data, which is very important as I use Google Voice for lots of my texting, so I send a text and it won't go out. Loading web pages or reloading my email shows that it is a data problem.
Those are the primary problems, and I suspect that somehow they are all related. I'm not sure if the Craigslist guy sold me a lemon, or there is some other problem that came up. I've tried multiple ROM's and disabling every app I can think of. Can anyone think of anything that would cause these problems & any way to fix it? Or do I just own a broke phone that I have to throw in the garbage?
Thanks in advance for reading!
a whole slew of problems can lead to a whole slew of possibilities for your issues.
first, i wasnt aware that you could do any of this on a straight talk phone, but i could be wrong. i am not the "expert" you may be looking or hoping for, though one i am sure will show up.
second, i think the response you may get is......did you go to JB straight from Gingerbread??? that will cause HUGE problems.
dd you read OP and follow to a tee??? again HUUUUGGEE problems.
the "never fail" here.....READ READ READ. feel confident as to what you are doing and follow steps one at a time. UNDERSTAND steps one at a time.
first thing that never hurts.....return to stock and start from scratch.
"super everything thread" under development.
Odin "stock-root & modded 3e rcovery.
follow all directions TO THE TTT.
if that doesnt work, you might have to get some mortar, you've got yourself a BRICK.
i know almost everyone else here is more of a expert than i am, but i do believe that is where they will tell you to start
good luck and be sure and thank the experts
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first, i wasnt aware that you could do any of this on a straight talk phone, but i could be wrong. i am not the "expert" you may be looking or hoping for, though one i am sure will show up.
second, i think the response you may get is......did you go to JB straight from Gingerbread??? that will cause HUGE problems.
dd you read OP and follow to a tee??? again HUUUUGGEE problems.
first thing that never hurts.....return to stock and start from scratch.
"super everything thread" under development.
Odin "stock-root & modded 3e rcovery.
follow all directions TO THE TTT.
if that doesnt work, you might have to get some mortar, you've got yourself a BRICK.
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While I have no idea what you're getting at by your Straight Talk comment, as ST is little more than AT&T service that's sold through a 3rd party at a discounted rate, the fact that he's using ST may be part of his problems, at least in regards to the network issues. I'm also having an unbelievable amount of data issues on ST. ST is having some network problems that are affecting a decent amount of customers who are on their AT&T network.
One thing that the OP may want to try is this: Download DNS Changer from the Play Store, and change your primary and secondary DNS to OpenDNS1 and OpenDNS2. Or try different settings, as there are a bunch that are available. That has made at least some difference with my data connectivity issues.
Based on my own experience, having tried to go to JB directly from GB, is that if it's going to affect your radio, it's likely to completely wipe out your EFS data so you won't have ANY cellular or data networking capabilities. As stated, that's simply based on how it worked out for me, and there could easily be other side-effects that just didn't happen to show up for me.
I agree with returning completely to stock UCLB3, with the GB bootloaders. Then flash Entropy's 4.4.2012 Kernel, which will also install CWM Recovery. I'd personally reccomend Heimdall, as it seems to be somewhat simpler. Detailed information on returning to stock via Heimdall can be found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629079&highlight=heimdall+uclb3
If you use it, be sure to thank qkster for making it available. He's probably the most helpful person you're likely to find on this forum, especially where us noobs are concerned.
I would take it back to stock and start all over.
Here is a very helpful thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700416
I agree with parrot head. When issues arise go back to stock. That's the best part of our phones. They are damn near impossible to really mess up. Just have to be ware of bootloader flash going wrong. If you got your gb rom from keis your good to go though.
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Appreciate the response, guys. I guess it doesn't hurt to try to start from scratch... AGAIN! It just seems like I'm putting an awful lot of hours into putting new ROM's and bootloaders on this phone. Going to be especially frustrating if I go through all the steps and it still doesn't fix my issues, which would mean my phone is broke. Oh well, guess I have little other choice.
All of the issues sound related..
It shouldn't take long to drop to stock and flash up to JB.. I've bobbled and missed steps here and there and have had to return from stock more times than I care to admit.. even rooting and flashing up the ladder only take about 20 minutes if even that..
Good luck!
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All of the issues sound related..
It shouldn't take long to drop to stock and flash up to JB.. I've bobbled and missed steps here and there and have had to return from stock more times than I care to admit.. even rooting and flashing up the ladder only take about 20 minutes if even that..
Good luck!
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Yes, the flashing process isn't that long, it's getting back my phone to all of my customized settings that ends up taking weeks. Home screen icon positioning, logging in to every app, system settings, etc.
Didn't create a backup?
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Didn't create a backup?
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I've always created backups with Titanium Backup, but when I restore the apps, a lot of them ask me to re-login or re-verify myself.
Thanks for the advice guys.
Spent a whole day going back to stock, then CWM red, then ICS, then Jellybean. Things seem to be markedly better, but the phone still seems laggy in a few places. Is this just because it's not the latest and greatest processor?
Also, the GPS just does not work right. It's still identifying me as being in Missouri even though I'm in Nevada. Consistently. Do I just have to live with that?
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Thanks for the advice guys.
Spent a whole day going back to stock, then CWM red, then ICS, then Jellybean. Things seem to be markedly better, but the phone still seems laggy in a few places. Is this just because it's not the latest and greatest processor?
Also, the GPS just does not work right. It's still identifying me as being in Missouri even though I'm in Nevada. Consistently. Do I just have to live with that?
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Are you still using the Trebuchet Launcher that comes built-in to the JB ROM? If so, that may be part of your lag problems. I just use ADW EX launcher. Here's an excerpt from the Paranoid Android JB OP:
******* EVERYONE: If you experience a sudden lag for no reason, IT is due to Trebuchet. GOOD NEWS though... From reading the log cat on my end, there is a very simple fix... Go to settings -Launcher - Homescreen - And Check "Resize any widget" and you are good to go! Instantly fixes the lag problem that a few have been experiencing. I have located the source code that needs to be changed and this will be enabled by default on future builds. ********
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As far as the GPS goes, I think Samsung just used ****ty receivers in the Infuse. My GPS isn't quite as bad as yours seems to be, but it's nowhere near as accurate or reliable as the GPS chipset in my crummy little Optimus V.
I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away? Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue? Will the overall system be snappier? Does it somehow fix the slow io?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.
If you feel this way, do it. But why? Are you missing apps?
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Why what, why do I want to unlock it? All the reasons I just outlined, it kinds a little annoying having to wait 5 seconds for the keyboard to pop up randomly, or the little stutters and halts when you browse as the page is loading. I just don't know for sure if there are ROMs out there that will take care of these for me, or if they fix the IO issue, or if that's even the culprit at all here.
I'm also running into a really annoying friggin typing issue here where it will double press keys, and when I go to backspace, it copies and pastes the word I'm trying to delete a line above where I am. I think it's only this forum, but it renders typing on the tablet here useless.
I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update). I now have a fully unbrickable, and fully flashable and downgradable tab. The biggest pain is that the updates don't work, but they can be downloaded from asus's website and flashed manually. Cleanrom as virtually free of the IO issue, and CM is slick all around.
Also try using an alternate keyboard such as swiftkey or hackers keyboard.
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I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update). I now have a fully unbrickable, and fully flashable and downgradable tab. The biggest pain is that the updates don't work, but they can be downloaded from asus's website and flashed manually. Cleanrom as virtually free of the IO issue, and CM is slick all around.
Also try using an alternate keyboard such as swiftkey or hackers keyboard.
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when you say free of the IO issue, have you tried transferring large files to the onboard storage (not SD)? iirc it was a hardware issue so no amount of software fix is going to fix it. IO issue != stuttering when browsing
Well, I'm pretty sure I'm going through with it, I'll probably wait a bit yet just to read up some more. I'll get the SquareTrade warranty with the 40% off coupon as soon as I figure out how to get the code just as a crutch/safety net, and I'm thinking of going with CleanROM Inheritance.
So, grabbed from David's thread earlier, this is the basic process:
Unlock
Reboot
Install Goo Manger
Install TWRP recovery
Reboot into recovery
Install ROM/Gapps
{PROFIT}!?
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Is there a thread somewhere that at least has screenshots as you start loading the ROMs, because I've never done that before and would like to just see what I'm going to be looking at first.
I was trying not to add in here...
As a one week old tablet owner I wouldn't let myself get drawn in too quickly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965214&highlight=warranty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979655&highlight=warranty
The above threads talk about some bad luck.
I recommend trying another path to alleviate any minor performance issues.
Then again if you're compelled to to unlock and flash it is a great idea to read and read some more.
Spend some time learning about pitfalls and benefits.
I'm thinking one week is too soon.
That is unless you're very confident about tweaking.
*just a note:
Get familiar with some of the tools used for pushing updates outside of OTAs to your Android.
If not already...good luck!
Apologies about the long winded response...
Thats OK said:
I was trying not add in here...
As a one week old tablet owner I wouldn't let myself get drawn in too quickly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965214&highlight=warranty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979655&highlight=warranty
The above threads talk about some bad luck.
I recommend trying another path to alleviate any minor performance issues.
Then again if you're compelled to to unlock and flash it is a great idea to read and read some more.
Spend some time learning about pitfalls and benefits.
I'm thinking one week is too soon.
That is unless you're very confident about tweaking.
*just a note:
Get familiar with some of the tools used for pushing updates outside of OTAs to your Android.
If not already...good luck!
Apologies about the long winded response...
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I hear what you're saying, but the SquareTrade warranties will still apply to unlocked devices, won't they? I plan on getting the 2 year from them just in case the **** hits the fan, I can get 40% off the normal price which puts it below $60. I think I read something here about them honoring the warranty even if the tablet gets bricked.
As far as the "other paths", what would they include? I rooted and froze some of the bloatware on here, I wasn't aware of anything else that could be done without unlocking. I'm used to tweaking everything computer related, I've just never done this before so if there's a thread that has a step by step with pictures so I don't go in blind that would be good. Even without the screens I'd be alright, I'll be sure to read up about it more.
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I hear what you're saying, but the SquareTrade warranties will still apply to unlocked devices, won't they? I plan on getting the 2 year from them just in case the **** hits the fan, I can get 40% off the normal price which puts it below $60. I think I read something here about them honoring the warranty even if the tablet gets bricked.
As far as the "other paths", what would they include? I rooted and froze some of the bloatware on here, I wasn't aware of anything else that could be done without unlocking. I'm used to tweaking everything computer related, I've just never done this before so if there's a thread that has a step by step with pictures so I don't go in blind that would be good. Even without the screens I'd be alright, I'll be sure to read up about it more.
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http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDroidDemos/videos?query=tf700t
These vids from DroidDemos have helped me in the past.
You can also search the "TF201 and TF300T" vids on DD some of those procedures will be the same as the Infinity.
Other things to try would be stepping back to ICS from JB.
JellyBean has proven buggy for a number of tablet users.
Turning on GPU 2d rendering under settings.
Not using the stock browser try an alternative.
If your using the Asus keyboard try the original Android keyboard.
Use the Asus task manager to shut down recurring apps.
Turn down screen brightness.
Turn off Bluetooth.
Turn off GPS temporarily.
Good read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28427614&postcount=1
...and of course try the factory reset or wipe cache from a cold boot (Volume down + power button then do nothing and wait for reboot)
etc.
Now do some homework and have fun!
Thats OK said:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDroidDemos/videos?query=tf700t
These vids from DroidDemos have helped me in the past.
You can also search the "TF201 and TF300T" vids on DD some of those procedures will be the same as the Infinity.
Other things to try would be stepping back to ICS from JB.
JellyBean has proven buggy for a number of tablet users.
Turning on GPU 2d rendering under settings.
Not using the stock browser try an alternative.
If your using the Asus keyboard try the original Android keyboard.
Use the Asus task manager to shut down recurring apps.
Turn down screen brightness.
Turn off Bluetooth.
Turn off GPS temporarily.
Good read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28427614&postcount=1
...and of course try the factory reset or wipe cache from a cold boot (Volume down + power button then do nothing and wait for reboot)
etc.
Now do some homework and have fun!
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Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?
berfles said:
I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
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You'll have to do the convincing yourself.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away?
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Depends on which browser you use. In most cases, it will improve considerably, but if you use the stock browser you can achieve the same effect with some tweaking (after rooting).
Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue?
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I hardly remove the dock. Is this a known issue??
Will the overall system be snappier?
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Yes, as this is a software issue.
Does it somehow fix the slow io?
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No, as this is hardware-related..
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.
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As I said, you'll have to do the convincing yourself, as that is a decision I have nothing to do with. Taking a swig of my own medicine - I unlocked at the first opportunity -- I'd say that the benefits are significant.
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Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
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Because a large minority of apps seem to have compatibility issues, causing them to force-close. Legacy reasons, in other words.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?
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As far as I have followed the discussions, the ST warranty has been used a few times.
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I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update).
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That was also the main motivation for me - the big decision if I want to be forever limited to what Asus provides, but with warranty and automatic upgrades, or if I want to take full control over my own tablet, with the risk of having to pay for hardware faults.
Knowing that I could not upgrade past 9.4.5.26 without either unlocking or forever losing full control over the bootloader forced me to decide. I still waited for a few weeks, then I finally unlocked, made the nvflash backups and upgraded to stock JB. After a few days I installed CleanROM. Not all lag issues went away, but I still think the experience is better than before.
Unlocking totally worth it for me
I've had my infinity for about 4 months now, I rooted a while back. I just recently unlocked and started using CleanRom Inheritance (now at version 2.5.5). I was always happy with the tablet, but had some of the issues you mentioned and after 4 months I figured what have i got to lose? (I also have a ST warranty)
★★ CleanROM 2.5.5 Inheritance | 10.4.4.20 | OC/UV Kernels | JB 4.1.1
I can tell you it's made QUITE a difference in the overall responsiveness and eliminated just about all of the stutters and pauses I thought was just a natural part of the infinity ecosystem. Check out the thread, check out the quadrant scores and see if it's something you'll find worthy of unlocking for. I'm very happy I did it. No regrets and I feel like I have a brand new tablet that performs the way it was supposed to all along.
The customizations built in to the Aroma installer alone is worth a look.
Matt
berfles said:
I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away? Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue? Will the overall system be snappier? Does it somehow fix the slow io?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.
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I think that it's important for you to state where you live (which continent).
Because if you live in Europe, you have nothing to fear. If you unlock your device, you cannot be held responsible for hardware (/production) issues. The repair centres will always replace anything for free the first 6 months after your purchase.
In the United States customer service will help you out as well, as long as you bought the device from a somewhat bigger and respectable store.
To be honest, unlocking the device is the best thing since sliced bread. It fixed a lot of issues and I can easily get above 6500 on Quandrant on the normal mode and I get 6900+ on performance mode.
Hope this helps you out
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I've had my infinity for about 4 months now, I rooted a while back. I just recently unlocked and started using CleanRom Inheritance (now at version 2.5.5). I was always happy with the tablet, but had some of the issues you mentioned and after 4 months I figured what have i got to lose? (I also have a ST warranty)
★★ CleanROM 2.5.5 Inheritance | 10.4.4.20 | OC/UV Kernels | JB 4.1.1
I can tell you it's made QUITE a difference in the overall responsiveness and eliminated just about all of the stutters and pauses I thought was just a natural part of the infinity ecosystem. Check out the thread, check out the quadrant scores and see if it's something you'll find worthy of unlocking for. I'm very happy I did it. No regrets and I feel like I have a brand new tablet that performs the way it was supposed to all along.
The customizations built in to the Aroma installer alone is worth a look.
Matt
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Plus one on this. Tablet is a joy to use now!
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Plus one on this. Tablet is a joy to use now!
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Yeah, *we* love *your* ROM, too!
Thanks for the replies, lots to look at and go through. I looked through some of the CROMI thread and the last few pages had me a little worried, seemed people were having troubles but I didn't go back far enough to see if that was user error or what.
Once I do this, if I make it through the process without issue does that mean I'm out of the woods in terms of danger? I mean most issues people have occur when they're trying to flash a ROM, right? So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?
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Thanks for the replies, lots to look at and go through. I looked through some of the CROMI thread and the last few pages had me a little worried, seemed people were having troubles but I didn't go back far enough to see if that was user error or what.
Once I do this, if I make it through the process without issue does that mean I'm out of the woods in terms of danger? I mean most issues people have occur when they're trying to flash a ROM, right? So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?
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If you got worried about the issues some people seem to have, just flash CleanROM 2.4 -- it won't be updated, but it was rock-stable. It seems that there is quite a bit of variability between our devices, as there have been lots of issues experienced by small numbers of users (sometimes even only one) that even Scott found hard to reproduce.
The riskiest thing you can do is flashing a bootloader -- even there, if done correctly, the risk is minimal, but at its highest point. Just flashing a ROM in itself doesn't carry that much of a risk at all -- you might end up with an OS that doesn't boot, but then you could always enter recovery, wipe date/factory reset and just flash an earlier version, or another ROM altogether. As long as you keep a working ROM .zip file handy for emergency flashing (I have one on my SGS2 that was amid-life ICS version of RootBox), you'll be able to save your bacon.
Oh... don't forget to get a good backup program *I'd suggest Titanium Backup Pro), and set a (preferably daily) schedule for the backups. That way, you won't lose more than the data modified since the last backup. That has worked out nicely for me the past few years.
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berfles said:
So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?
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Flashing a custom ROM will not make a hardware problem rear its ugly head. It would've been there before, so check for the known issues thoroughly. If OK, flash away.
Ive had my TF700 for awhile, always had it rooted but today unlocked it.
Took 10mins to get Teamwin and install liquid smooth.
I should of done this months ago, this rom let alone makes a huge difference in speed, plus the customization never ends.
DO IT
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Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?
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If you read term and condition, Square Trade will not cover unlocked bootloader. BTW, running custom rom will eliminated ALL your issues mentioned above. Your device will be fast and smooth just like the way it should be.
I've followed directions in the following two forums (and sifted through many, many others here):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/fix-carrier-wifi-wrong-date-time-t2922849
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/fix-brickloop-audio-fx-fc-efs-corrupt-t2879061
I've contacted OnePlus support and received new persist.img and other 38R files directly from them. I've flashed EVERYTHING in any number of ways. I've even tried CM nightly's...
But no matter what I do this phone constantly reboots. All the friggin' time. Randomly. Sometimes up to a few dozen times a day. It'll just be sitting there and it'll reboot. It'll happen when I'm using Chrome, checking my email, or when I look at it wrong. OnePlus keeps telling me it'll be fixed with the next update, but I have my doubts (since they said that before 38R was pushed).
Does anybody have any ideas on how to debug this? I am not new to android, but I'm also not all that knowledgeable about it. I'd love to see some system logs or something that'll point to what is causing these crashes, but I'm at a loss. Beyond debugging does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing it? Bad spot of memory, storage, anything? I'm at my wits end. I love the device, but can't stand these reboots that seemingly nobody else has to suffer.
Have you tried any other ROMs apart from CM?
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No, and I don't particularly want to. If it doesn't work with what it is supposed to then I would rather have my money back and move on to a different device. Personally I can't stand most ROMs. I like plain android and CM, but otherwise I haven't ever used one I liked. As far as it goes I may try another one just to see if the issue persists, but that's a whole lot of hassle over what would ultimately have me ask for a refund anyway.
Why not try Paranoid Android?
I'll give that one a try. Assuming the issue continues to happen, what then?
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No, and I don't particularly want to. If it doesn't work with what it is supposed to then I would rather have my money back and move on to a different device. Personally I can't stand most ROMs. I like plain android and CM, but otherwise I haven't ever used one I liked. As far as it goes I may try another one just to see if the issue persists, but that's a whole lot of hassle over what would ultimately have me ask for a refund anyway.
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revjtanton said:
I'll give that one a try. Assuming the issue continues to happen, what then?
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There really isn't very much difference between CM and other ROMs anyway. If it continues then I'd suggest starting the RMA process.
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I just tried Paranoid Android. I couldn't even get past the Welcome screens without a reboot.
goddamn it.
Hello all,
I am new here as I have stayed faaaaar away from androids for many years (flips and windows). I tried to do a search on the boards but, unfortunately, my phone keeps freezing up and this is my only out to the web ATM. Anyways ever since my device prompted for me to download the newest update I wearily decided to go ahead. Ever since then my phone gets stuck on the lock screen, lags ridiculously, and refuses to send a message via text...not to mention random freezes. Is there anyone else having this problem. I know its new, but is this a yet known issue with this phone? I hate to factory reset it again if it is not going to fix anything?
Thank you,
Norseman
JPNorseman said:
Hello all,
I am new here as I have stayed faaaaar away from androids for many years (flips and windows). I tried to do a search on the boards but, unfortunately, my phone keeps freezing up and this is my only out to the web ATM. Anyways ever since my device prompted for me to download the newest update I wearily decided to go ahead. Ever since then my phone gets stuck on the lock screen, lags ridiculously, and refuses to send a message via text...not to mention random freezes. Is there anyone else having this problem. I know its new, but is this a yet known issue with this phone? I hate to factory reset it again if it is not going to fix anything?
Thank you,
Norseman
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Have you tried a factory reset?
fubugang said:
Have you tried a factory reset?
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Not yet what little I have been able to read around the web, before it locks up again, was it wasn't helping. So I wanted to ask before I wasted my time and it has to wait for my 12 hour shift. Just lack of communication from my site really stinks and may put some things behind.
Only problem I had with the update was serious battery drain from Android OS and System way higher than normal.
Thank you for backing up my reasons for never updating phones, computers, tablets, electronics in general, until I actually need to!
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Thank you for backing up my reasons for never updating phones, computers, tablets, electronics in general, until I actually need to!
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Generally you 'need to' update things when a new version is released because there are usually security enhancements that can be exploited with older firmware.