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[Q] rom flash without sd card

Could use some help... I've flashed many roms before but this is my first doing so to a device without sd card storage (i9023). How would I go about flashing a rom to my phone? and how can i nandroid backup without it being deleted when I wipe the device?

Don't worry bro... Wiping Data(factory reset), Dalvik, and Cache, won't also wipe your /sdcard partition.
/sdcard can be wiped out with "format" which can be found on "mounts and storage" section.

OK, thanks. just to confirm, when you say /sdcard, you refer to the internal storage correct?
syntax_gosong said:
Don't worry bro... Wiping Data(factory reset), Dalvik, and Cache, won't also wipe your /sdcard partition.
/sdcard can be wiped out with "format" which can be found on "mounts and storage" section.
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wethead4 said:
OK, thanks. just to confirm, when you say /sdcard, you refer to the internal storage correct?
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Yes, that's correct.
"/sdcard" won't be formated if you do wiping for other partition.

furthermore, even you wiped sdcard, you can also mount usb to your PC and transfer file after you wipef.
one more thing, there is one thing called "Odin" can allow you flash without sdcard

How do I avoid wiping internal storage?

I've tried a few different times, and I can't seem to get it right. what's the correct way to do a full, proper wipe, but keep internal storage intact? First phone I've ever had with internal storage.
thanks!

ibawanzingee said:
I've tried a few different times, and I can't seem to get it right. what's the correct way to do a full, proper wipe, but keep internal storage intact? First phone I've ever had with internal storage.
thanks!
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Factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, then format system.
Your internal storage will stay intact.
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Awesome. Thank you.
BadUsername said:
Factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, then format system.
Your internal storage will stay intact.
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Wipe Internal Storage

I would like to wipe internal storage to make better/clean install of the ROM (
with old S3 i make a folder on Ext SD with .zip file
reboot to cwm
backup
wipe all (cache + data + system + internal storage)
install (rom + gapps + kernel)
reboot
As you know on 1+ there is no Ext Sd
Someone has already tried to do:
copy .zip file to a folder on PC
reboot to TWRP (2.8.0.1)
make a backup
connect phone to pc and mount data
copy backup from 1+ to Pc
advanced wipe (cache + data + system + internal storage)
copy .zip file from PC to 1+
install (rom + gapps + kernel)
reboot
Can it work?
P.s. I have no OTG cable or USB

You should be able to wipe everything and install the Rom-Zip via ADB-Push.

Why dont you try to install the new rom in recovery with a normal wipe and after you falsh the rom + gapps do a wipe of the internal sdcard should have the same affect ?

are you out of your mind? DO NOT WIPE INTERNAL!!! WIPE SYSTEM AND DATA ONLY
here's my thread for when you wipe internal and brickloop your phone!

markbencze said:
are you out of your mind? DO NOT WIPE INTERNAL!!! WIPE SYSTEM AND DATA ONLY
here's my thread for when you wipe internal and brickloop your phone!
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Wow. Interesting thread. However, I wipe my internal storage (for a "full" wipe) everytime I flash a new rom or even the weekly of a same rom and luckily I haven't ran into the problems in your thread.
to the OP: I put all of my zip files in a USB otg so flashing is a bit simpler. This includes all of my nandroid and media.
I would wait to wipe the internal storage until you figure out which route you want to use (USB-otg or ADB)
Until then a normal factory reset in your recovery should be good. Also as @Hogyoku metioned you can erase internal from within the Rom to get the same effect.
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Mojar7070 said:
Wow. Interesting thread. However, I wipe my internal storage (for "full" wipe) evertime I flash a new rom or even the weekly of a same rom and luckily I haven't ran into the problems in your thread.
I do put all of my zip files in a USB otg so flashing is a bit simpler.
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That's not wise. You should never wipe internal plain and simple. All that s required for full wipe is system and data. If you continue doing so, you're going to find out the hard way one day

markbencze said:
That's not wise. You should never wipe internal plain and simple. All that s required for full wipe is system and data. If you continue doing so, you're going to find out the hard way one day
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This i what the OP wanted i'm not saying it's smart .....
::I would like to wipe internal storage to make better/clean install of the ROM :

Hogyoku said:
This i what the OP wanted i'm not saying it's smart .....
::I would like to wipe internal storage to make better/clean install of the ROM :
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who ever is saying to wipe internal doesn't know what they're doing. This is the last I will mention of this here. There is no need and it's dangerous. That's how efs and the persist files get wiped and you find yourself in some serious trouble.
when installing a rom all that is needed is wipe data and system. Not cache, not dalvik and certainly not internal.
So many people have a misconception on how to properly wipe and everything seems to think they need to wipe caches on top of system and data. Well guess what, when you wipe system and data the caches get wiped too so it's just an extra unneeded step. And some people will post crap saying to wipe 3 times when flashing etc. They are simply making things up

markbencze said:
who ever is saying to wipe internal doesn't know what they're doing. This is the last I will mention of this here. There is no need and it's dangerous. That's how efs and the persist files get wiped and you find yourself in some serious trouble.
when installing a rom all that is needed is wipe data and system. Not cache, not dalvik and certainly not internal.
So many people have a misconception on how to properly wipe and everything seems to think they need to wipe caches on top of system and data. Well guess what, when you wipe system and data the caches get wiped too so it's just an extra unneeded step. And some people will post crap saying to wipe 3 times when flashing etc. They are simply making things up
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markbencze said:
That's not wise. You should never wipe internal plain and simple. All that s required for full wipe is system and data. If you continue doing so, you're going to find out the hard way one day
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markbencze said:
are you out of your mind? DO NOT WIPE INTERNAL!!! WIPE SYSTEM AND DATA ONLY
here's my thread for when you wipe internal and brickloop your phone!
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This is complete bull****. Internal wipe will NEVER destroy anything it just wipes the whole /data/ instead of leaving /data/media. If you want your usb storage / internal sdcard / whatever you call it to be erased that's the one to choose. For a complete clean install:
1. BACKUP EVERYTHING YOU MIGHT EVER NEED AGAIN.
2. Grab ROM and GAPPS and put it on internal storage
3. Boot recovery and wipe DATA, SYSTEM, CACHE (dalvik is not needed because it's located on /data)
3. Flash ROM and GAPPS
4. Wipe internal storage
5. Stop talking about things you don't know correctly

om22 said:
This is complete bull****. Internal wipe will NEVER destroy anything it just wipes the whole /data/ instead of leaving /data/media. If you want your usb storage / internal sdcard / whatever you call it to be erased that's the one to choose. For a complete clean install:
1. BACKUP EVERYTHING YOU MIGHT EVER NEED AGAIN.
2. Grab ROM and GAPPS and put it on internal storage
3. Boot recovery and wipe DATA, SYSTEM, CACHE (dalvik is not needed because it's located on /data)
3. Flash ROM and GAPPS
4. Wipe internal storage
5. Stop talking about things you don't know correctly
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Omg man you are not helping things here. Do you think its just a coincidence that everyone with these bricks wiped internal?
Considering I found the fix to this issue I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. But nice try.
Anyway I'm done here. I came here to help people recover from their bricks which I have done.

markbencze said:
Omg man you are not helping things here. Do you think its just a coincidence that everyone with these bricks wiped internal?
Considering I found the fix to this issue I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. But nice try.
Anyway I'm done here. I came here to help people recover from their bricks which I have done.
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That's really nice of you that you did that guide. But there is no way that bricks could have to do with that wipe. There is no way an internal wipe could corrupt any other partition than /data/ (efs, persist anything) beside of a bug in the recovery. Wiped internal several times on every phone and also the OPO with TWRP 2.8.0.1 and as you can see it's still running.

om22 said:
This is complete bull****. Internal wipe will NEVER destroy anything it just wipes the whole /data/ instead of leaving /data/media. If you want your usb storage / internal sdcard / whatever you call it to be erased that's the one to choose. For a complete clean install:
1. BACKUP EVERYTHING YOU MIGHT EVER NEED AGAIN.
2. Grab ROM and GAPPS and put it on internal storage
3. Boot recovery and wipe DATA, SYSTEM, CACHE (dalvik is not needed because it's located on /data)
3. Flash ROM and GAPPS
4. Wipe internal storage
5. Stop talking about things you don't know correctly
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Although you are right about this I still think it ain't smart to advice this on this forum. A lot of noobs around here, much more than in any sub forum of a phone I ever owned.[emoji6]

om22 said:
This is complete bull****. Internal wipe will NEVER destroy anything it just wipes the whole /data/ instead of leaving /data/media. If you want your usb storage / internal sdcard / whatever you call it to be erased that's the one to choose. For a complete clean install:
1. BACKUP EVERYTHING YOU MIGHT EVER NEED AGAIN.
2. Grab ROM and GAPPS and put it on internal storage
3. Boot recovery and wipe DATA, SYSTEM, CACHE (dalvik is not needed because it's located on /data)
3. Flash ROM and GAPPS
4. Wipe internal storage
5. Stop talking about things you don't know correctly
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Thank you

How do I wipe /sd card?

I want to flash a clean install of Resurrection Remix, but when I wipe cache, dalvik cache, etc., my pictures, apps data, etc. in /sd is still there. How do I delete that info?

tilt4life2 said:
I want to flash a clean install of Resurrection Remix, but when I wipe cache, dalvik cache, etc., my pictures, apps data, etc. in /sd is still there. How do I delete that info?
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Boot into recovery.. go to wipe , then advanced wipe.. select everything except for otg option.. Reboot. Everything will be erased including your internal memory.
Cheers
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tilt4life2 said:
I want to flash a clean install of Resurrection Remix, but when I wipe cache, dalvik cache, etc., my pictures, apps data, etc. in /sd is still there. How do I delete that info?
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The question is why? This isn't at all necessary when flashing a ROM.

Heisenberg said:
The question is why? This isn't at all necessary when flashing a ROM.
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I downloaded lots of different widgets, wallpaper apps, themes, etc., to test different setups for my phone. I have the setup I want now, but the /SD card folder is cluttered with folders from apps and themes I don't want and don't plan on redownloading.
I have seen your warnings in other threads about wiping internal storage, so I haven't done that. On my Note 3, I had the external SD card, so it was easy to wipe internal storage and flash from the SD card. But since there is no SD card with this phone, I've been trying to read up on it. And there is a bunch of conflicting advice on what's safe and what's not.

Heisenberg said:
The question is why? This isn't at all necessary when flashing a ROM.
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anugrah n3xu5 said:
Boot into recovery.. go to wipe , then advanced wipe.. select everything except for otg option.. Reboot. Everything will be erased including your internal memory.
Cheers
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How do I then flash a ROM without an external SD card? I've read about adb sideload and USB otg, but haven't found a thread that easily explains how to do those methods. I've also seen conflicting reports about whether it's safe to wipe internal storage. Any good threads on this issue you can point me to? Thanks.

tilt4life2 said:
How do I then flash a ROM without an external SD card? I've read about adb sideload and USB otg, but haven't found a thread that easily explains how to do those methods. I've also seen conflicting reports about whether it's safe to wipe internal storage. Any good threads on this issue you can point me to? Thanks.
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You can store the ROM zip on your PC, then use TWRP to wipe your internal storage, then just connect your phone to your PC and copy the zip onto the phone to flash.

tilt4life2 said:
How do I then flash a ROM without an external SD card? I've read about adb sideload and USB otg, but haven't found a thread that easily explains how to do those methods. I've also seen conflicting reports about whether it's safe to wipe internal storage. Any good threads on this issue you can point me to? Thanks.
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First of all do a factory reset(will clear all files ,folders and apps "excluding" system files) then transfer zip file(ROM) and gapps to your phone. Go to recovery > wipe> advance wipe > select everything except for internal memory and otg option > wipe > go to install > select the zip file(ROM) and flash> flash gapps > wipe dalvic cache > reboot
The first boot may take a while (2-10 minutes)
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Heisenberg said:
You can store the ROM zip on your PC, then use TWRP to wipe your internal storage, then just connect your phone to your PC and copy the zip onto the phone to flash.
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Thank you. Do I simply need to mount my phone while in TWRP to copy the ROM and Gapps zips? Also, can wiping internal storage screw up my radios or any other aspects of the phone? I recall seeing a thread where the poster claimed that wiping the internal storage screwed up his phone and resulted in lots of FCs when he installed a new ROM. But others doubted his claims.

Heisenberg said:
You can store the ROM zip on your PC, then use TWRP to wipe your internal storage, then just connect your phone to your PC and copy the zip onto the phone to flash.
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anugrah n3xu5 said:
First of all do a factory reset(will clear all files ,folders and apps "excluding" system files) then transfer zip file(ROM) and gapps to your phone. Go to recovery > wipe> advance wipe > select everything except for internal memory and otg option > wipe > go to install > select the zip file(ROM) and flash> flash gapps > wipe dalvic cache > reboot
The first boot may take a while (2-10 minutes)
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I'm on Resurrection Remix ROM and when I try to wipe from settings, nothing happens. But I tried your method with cm12 and the files were still there.

tilt4life2 said:
Thank you. Do I simply need to mount my phone while in TWRP to copy the ROM and Gapps zips? Also, can wiping internal storage screw up my radios or any other aspects of the phone? I recall seeing a thread where the poster claimed that wiping the internal storage screwed up his phone and resulted in lots of FCs when he installed a new ROM. But others doubted his claims.
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Just connect the phone and it should mount automatically. Wiping the internal storage has no effect on the modem or any other aspect of the operation of the phone.

tilt4life2 said:
I'm on Resurrection Remix ROM and when I try to wipe from settings, nothing happens. But I tried your method with cm12 and the files were still there.
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Go to recovery>wipe > factory reset or
Wipe>advance wipe> select internal storage>wipe it > clear dalvic cache> reboot
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[Q] Format data/media and internal without losing ROM flash.zip

Now that the Note 5 has NO external SDcard support, how are we suppose to do a FULL and complete WIPE inside TWRP ?
I am talking about when I want to wipe data/media ( Format Data ) to install a new custom ROM on a completely wiped clean system.
I know it is not needed allwas but I like to format data sometimes to really remove all of the old system when I install a new ROM.
With the Note 4 you could just put the new ROM onto the SDcard and format the internal memory safely, and just flash the ROM
from the SDcard.
What can we do now ? If I format via TWRP it will wipe the internal SD area and wipe the new ROM also so I cant flash.
Thanks for any ideas.

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Thibor69 said:
Now that the Note 5 has NO external SDcard support, how are we suppose to do a FULL and complete WIPE inside TWRP ?
I am talking about when I want to wipe data/media ( Format Data ) to install a new custom ROM on a completely wiped clean system.
I know it is not needed allwas but I like to format data sometimes to really remove all of the old system when I install a new ROM.
With the Note 4 you could just put the new ROM onto the SDcard and format the internal memory safely, and just flash the ROM
from the SDcard.
What can we do now ? If I format via TWRP it will wipe the internal SD area and wipe the new ROM also so I cant flash.
Thanks for any ideas.
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Easy, do an advanced wipe in twrp and don't check mark internal storage or the OTG, only
check mark system, data, cache and dalvik and nothing except do a factory reset in twrp.
(doing it this way will not delete anything on the internal sdcard.
Good luck!
Have a nice Thanksgiving!

Haven't tried on this phone as I haven't rooted but adb push should solve your question.