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My gorilla glass just dramatically failed

Hey guys,
I'm a little pissed right now... I woke up about 3 hours ago, my screen was perfectly scratchless. Now although, i got 3 scratches only from having the phone lay on the desk (display up), typing 2 SMS and trying out new widgetlocker designs.
I didnt do anything else. No putting in pocket (although that worked fine for weeks now), no smashing it on the ground, not even laying it in the sun. Nothing!
Now i got 3 scratches from basically doing ****. One of the 3 is almost 5mm long! Can you belive this? I'm speechless and dissapointed. And worst of all, i cant even explain it! It would be ok if i had had the phone in the pocket, or i threw it around or something. But this, this just sucks
Sorry for whining but i had to get it out.

that's why it's still advisable to put a Screen guard on the DS even though it's a gorilla glass. Remeber, the screeb is scratch resistant but not scratch proof. Good thing is that I applied a SP on my DS since day 1.

Yeah, i applied a screen protector after some minutes of having the phone.. i have the phone like 2 weeks and all the protector is full of scratches... i hope it didnt get to the screen.. yeah.. its not scratch proof.. its the opposite.. scratch magnet haha

sure, your right. But this **** that just happend to me is not reproducable. I just tryed to scratch it with a pen and a knive an _nothing_ happened.
So how the **** can a screen be scratched with my own fingers?! Thats so frustrating. Like winning the lottery. I have had the phone now for over a month and had it always unprotected in my pockets, but now my own ****ing fingers scratch the display? This cant be right.

Sand grains can easily scratch the screen...

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similar thing happened to me, kept phone in pocket on its own. Pulled it out the other day to see a hairline scratch about 2cm long. Gutted

Wuhlifant said:
sure, your right. But this **** that just happend to me is not reproducable. I just tryed to scratch it with a pen and a knive an _nothing_ happened.
So how the **** can a screen be scratched with my own fingers?! Thats so frustrating. Like winning the lottery. I have had the phone now for over a month and had it always unprotected in my pockets, but now my own ****ing fingers scratch the display? This cant be right.
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there is just no possible way that your fingers(or nails) could have scratched the gorilla glass screen. even if it was normal glass it is not possible
but sand(or more accurately SiO2) can scratch your gorilla glass...Easily (as its hardness is 7 on the mohs scale)
it is possible that your screen was scratched earlier & you didnt notice it (sometimes a scratch is not visible till its wiped)
or you could have had some sand particles in your hand..
forget about the current scratches & get a screen protector immediately to prevent from more damage
& btw gorilla glass is only scratch resistant not scratch proof
(but there arent many common things that can scratch it other than sand ofc)

kartkk said:
it is possible that your screen was scratched earlier & you didnt notice it (sometimes a scratch is not visible till its wiped)
or you could have had some sand particles in your hand..
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It definitly wasnt scratched earlier. The sad thing about the 5mm scratch is, that its always visible. The other two are just visible when the screen is off, but the big one is constantly popping out (its more or less breaking up the colours like a prisma)
Yeah its gotta be sand although i would be more happy if it were diamonds
I just put on a protector which came with casemate. Although it has bad reviews (the glass protector), it works quite fine on my device. What i most liked on the gorilla glass itself was that it was very fingerprint resistant. I ll see if the glass protector can keep up with that.
I knew that gorilla glass wasnt scratch immune. But its kinda ironic that only a tiny grain of sand could do so much damage, whereas nothing happend for the past 7 weeks under completely different (tougher) conditions.

Wuhlifant said:
It definitly wasnt scratched earlier. The sad thing about the 5mm scratch is, that its always visible. The other two are just visible when the screen is off, but the big one is constantly popping out (its more or less breaking up the colours like a prisma)
Yeah its gotta be sand although i would be more happy if it were diamonds
I just put on a protector which came with casemate. Although it has bad reviews (the glass protector), it works quite fine on my device. What i most liked on the gorilla glass itself was that it was very fingerprint resistant. I ll see if the glass protector can keep up with that.
I knew that gorilla glass wasnt scratch immune. But its kinda ironic that only a tiny grain of sand could do so much damage, whereas nothing happend for the past 7 weeks under completely different (tougher) conditions.
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what do you mean tougher??diamonds?emerald?
anything even slightly harder than sand can Easily scratch the screen
dont under estimate sand its harder than you think
its harder than steel(hardened steel is harder though)

kartkk said:
what do you mean tougher??diamonds?emerald?
anything even slightly harder than sand can Easily scratch the screen
dont under estimate sand its harder than you think
its harder than steel(hardened steel is harder though)
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Of couse i didnt mean diamonds
I meant the dust and the many sand particles in my pockets and the constant rubbing and bouncing around in my pockets.

So this summer i have to buy a screen protector if i go to the seaside (lots of sand there) . But i will only keep it on for the stay there. I like the screen the way it is !!!scratchless

I'm on my second desire s now and both times I managed to scratch the screen in just a few days of ownership. My previous desire, whilst picking up a couple of fine scratches seemed to survive a bit better somehow, at least on my current desire s it is not very noticeable.
You get over it eventually! I don't use a case or screen protector because they make the phone and screen look too crap IMO. I just accept that it's a working piece of kit and it's gonna pick up wear and tear, although I do my best to avoid damaging it.
You have my sympathy!

I'm also a nudist. Phone already dropped once. Cursed much. But screen is still ok so far.

amonrei said:
I'm also a nudist. Phone already dropped once. Cursed much. But screen is still ok so far.
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How about the case?? The paint still ok?

.sh4d0w. said:
How about the case?? The paint still ok?
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Unfortunately I drink at the weekends, and alcohol and the phone don't mix well, dropped phone twice and have managed to fortunately only scratch the paint from the case bottom left corner and top right, only a couple of tiny scratches on screen, consider myself lucky and I don't have so problem
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Had my Desire S for more than 3 month already. Phone in out of pocket and fingers sometimes a ...little.... bit sandy because of my engineering work.. my screen still look as good as new... My older Motorola XT720 (which is almost coming to a year) screen is also look as good as new too.

I love how htc's commercial that included the WS leak was on a beach.
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contact htc, you should still be under warranty

Its never too late...
Buy a case matte cover...
it comes with a cover and an awesome screen protector...
dat wud serve d purpose...
the cover is nice...i use d almost type...its cool

.sh4d0w. said:
How about the case?? The paint still ok?
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Yup. Fell on the floor. If it happened on a rougher surface it might leave some mark.

Gorilla Corning Glass 2

How strong is this suppise to be? My phone took a two inch fall and the screen is pretty much gone.
iTzAmazed

Normally its supposed to be decently strong. However, due to the design of the phone and the way the glass curves around the edges, it isn't uncommon for the point of impact to be directly on the glass. This creates a vulnerability for the device and is why you see so many broken S3s. This phone requires a case.
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Had this phone for months with no case and it still looks great. Been through a couple medium drops (nothing too crazy, but a couple feet onto concrete from the car) and no marks at all.
I refuse to double the size of my phone, which i bought because it was so sleek and small

amazin1988 said:
How strong is this suppise to be? My phone took a two inch fall and the screen is pretty much gone.
iTzAmazed
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I think two inch fall will cause no damage don't you think? Unless you meant two feet.
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I have a uag case, too risky not to. I dropped mine from my mouth into the floor at the gas station. My only concern was getting it sanitized so I didn't get any germs.
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The problem with Gorilla Glass is the corners. From my experiences anyway. A short drop right on the corner completely wrecked my screen once. But I think two inches is quite an exaggeration. Had to be at least 2ft. Maybe a foot.

Digur said:
Had this phone for months with no case and it still looks great. Been through a couple medium drops (nothing too crazy, but a couple feet onto concrete from the car) and no marks at all.
I refuse to double the size of my phone, which i bought because it was so sleek and small
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I find it hard to believe that you dropped your S3 a couple of feet, from a car and onto the concrete and didn't at least get a scuff mark?
Unless you drive hot wheels and your concrete is made of grass!
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amazin1988 said:
How strong is this suppise to be? My phone took a two inch fall and the screen is pretty much gone.
iTzAmazed
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That must be some drop. My screen shattered but it was also 10 degrees outside.

I have replaced several gorilla glass screens. They are great for scratch resistance, almost indestructible that way, but hit them on the edge, or pry up on it and snap crackle pop. I don't care what phone I have had, it gets a case that comes over the front to keep glass off table etc when face down, and I use Phantom Skinz on all my screens. Never had a problem yet, but it is fun replacing friends screens who don't like cases and screen covers ;-0.

droped mine less than 18 inches but caught the corner just right and shattered. the one time i didn't get insurance:crying:

golfinglenn said:
I have replaced several gorilla glass screens. They are great for scratch resistance, almost indestructible that way, but hit them on the edge, or pry up on it and snap crackle pop. I don't care what phone I have had, it gets a case that comes over the front to keep glass off table etc when face down, and I use Phantom Skinz on all my screens. Never had a problem yet, but it is fun replacing friends screens who don't like cases and screen covers ;-0.
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Honestly how strong is the screen protector. Like against good hits and stuff... I usually do the field goal catch when I drop my phone, where it flies across the room... Obviously that still might be too much, but do you think it would hold up pretty good?
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faehsemc said:
Honestly how strong is the screen protector. Like against good hits and stuff... I usually do the field goal catch when I drop my phone, where it flies across the room... Obviously that still might be too much, but do you think it would hold up pretty good?
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I think the screen protector is pretty strong. I look at it as a thin plastic/rubbery barrier between the glass and any sharp objects that might impact the glass. I have never broken or cracked a screen myself and had some pretty good drops/punts when trying to catch with foot lol.

Scratchproof not crashproof
GG protects against scratches, that's about it. I don't believe its any more shatter resistant than other glass. I use a bumper case, which protects the edges but leaves the back largely uncovered. Best compromise I could find between protection and not adding bulk. I actually prefer it to uncovered because I always found that the GS3 was kind of slick and easy to drop without a case of any kind.

Agree
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Mine screen got scratched pretty soon after I purchased it. I was pretty disappointed. Ended up getting a ZAG and it's held up nicely.

My screen scratched from my finger nail. My wife's screen is all scratched to hell. Yet she does nothing different than she did with her Fascinate with gg1. I think the coating on gg2 much softer.
I don't like it.
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rhamorsky said:
droped mine less than 18 inches but caught the corner just right and shattered. the one time i didn't get insurance:crying:
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700 phone and you didn't get insurance
I dont have insurance either but I do have one of those ebay TPU cases, seems to protect it from drops just fine

my friend's s3 hit a hardwood floor with the corner of his phone and a giant crack just appeared across his his screen

Here is a picture:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37829485#post37829485
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It actually fell out of my pocket (pants pocket - lower cargo pocket so about knee height) as I was getting it out.
Thing is, this was new years eve, and it had been sitting in my car for a number of hours. It landed on the edge of a concrete walkway, so it was uneven pressure when it hit.
And being as there was snow on the ground, it was really cold - the phone being in my car (off by the way) for those hours meant it was just as cold (and brittle) when it hit.
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There are two things on the screen in that picture - my customary piece of electrical tape over the front facing camera, and a screen protector.
The screen protector is why it's still usable. Without it, all the pieces of screen would have fallen out. The only thing that is broken, is the gorilla glass part of the screen.
It sucks trying to work through all the cracks and breakage, but because the screen protector keeps it all there and flat I can work through all that mess.
I bought another 32 gig model, so it's not the s3 I use day to day, but it does still have its role in my division of the android army.
I always use screen protectors, I don't care what claims are made about the screen. With it you have a chance to still use it in a worst case like this. Without it, this device would be relatively useless.
I'll eventually get around to buying another screen for it, but the screen protector held it together long enough for me to get another one, and now it's not such a priority on my list. Someday.

Here is a link with some pretty interesting info from Corning regarding Gorilla Glass, scratching, breaking, etc., including Gorilla Glass 3:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Corn...-Glass-3-is-not-like-most-other-glass_id38494

How Scratch Resistant is the Z3 Display?

Hi all,
I don't really want to use the screen protector and I thought I'd ask the question about the glass that the screen is made of.
I understand that it is not Gorilla Glass, and that it does not have the plastic 'shatter protection' layer on it - so how scratch resistant is it if I don't use the protector that came with the phone?
There doesn't seem to be a test online yet, and not much being said about this specific. And no, I don't want to try it out on my phone and report back!!
What do we know? Anyone scratched theirs yet, if so how?
Thanks guys.

I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects

Mortus17 said:
I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
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Screens do not scratch themselves... Just saying.

Mortus17 said:
I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
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Wow - this guy's phone must be screwed then:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/See-...with-a-real-knife-on-a-Sony-Xperia-Z3_id61723
Although perhaps the screen only gets scratched if you *don't* use a sharp object?

Well, have the phone for about 2 weeks and always put it in my pocket (without keys or money/coins) and seems fine here...
Of course there will also be those who somehow get scratches on it or swear by a screenprotector, but as I never seem to be able to get those on properly without any bubbles I'm not a big fan. Might try in the near future anyway, but seems to do fine without it so far

dagrim1 said:
Well, have the phone for about 2 weeks and always put it in my pocket (without keys or money/coins) and seems fine here...
Of course there will also be those who somehow get scratches on it or swear by a screenprotector, but as I never seem to be able to get those on properly without any bubbles I'm not a big fan. Might try in the near future anyway, but seems to do fine without it so far
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You could try a tempered glass screen protector i never had that problem with them. and they feel better then plastic screen protectors.

I'd agree with the tempered glass protectors, I haven't gotten dust under one yet, and if you do, just take it off, get the dust off, and re apply. They're much much better than any normal protector and a lot lot easier to apply and re-position if you get it wrong.

Use Nillkin tempered glass and you won't even see you have something on your screen.
I'm using that SP on Z1 and Z2 and it's perfect.
It's on Z1 for almost a year and it's great...
You have to apply it careful and precise and it'll be awesome.
As I said, it's on my Z1 for almost a year and on Z2 for 4-5 months and there's no a single scratch on them.
And yeah...it's incredibly easy to apply it because it's glass/plastic.
It's not thin like plain SP, so there's no way you could have air bubbles under it.

funky0308 said:
Use Nillkin tempered glass and you won't even see you have something on your screen.
I'm using that SP on Z1 and Z2 and it's perfect.
It's on Z1 for almost a year and it's great...
You have to apply it careful and precise and it'll be awesome.
As I said, it's on my Z1 for almost a year and on Z2 for 4-5 months and there's no a single scratch on them.
And yeah...it's incredibly easy to apply it because it's glass/plastic.
It's not thin like plain SP, so there's no way you could have air bubbles under it.
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I might have to give that a go; just tried putting on 5 plastic protectors but they all failed my zero-dust policy!

Do not overestimate the strength of the screen. It scratches incredibly easily. You'd best keep it safe. Many screen protectors are almost 100% transparent nowadays anyway.

The screen on the front of my Z3 has been fine without a screen protector but the back got a scratch from merely sliding across a table a few centimeters. Not very noticeable but makes me wonder if the front and back are different types of glass?

Having never gotten a scratch on any of my previous phones, personally I think the Z3 glass is slightly on the soft side as I've already got a few tiny scratches on it, which is surprising.
I think it's time to invest in a Tempered Glass screen protector, PET film feels like crap.

Ummm...
Well, I'm pretty sure that in most of cases that won't happen, but...
https://www.google.com/search?q=self+crack+screen
Just quoting...

I have to agree with the glass being very soft, don't understand how I've gotten these scratches on the front and back. Been super careful and didn't have anything in my pockets. Have 2 nice ones on the front and a couple on the back from putting it in and taking it out of my empty pockets.

How easy is the glass to replace on these phones btw, I think the back is very easy but anyone know about the front? Can the glass be replaced without getting a whole new screen and digitizer?

Screen protectors are a MUST!
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What do we know? Anyone scratched theirs yet, if so how?
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Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.

Devilchuk17 said:
Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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Well I wouldn't say a must... Quality varies per each batch of glass for their phones. Remember Sony uses their own screen glass technology so if you have a big scratch and don't know why its a probable quality control issue. I've had my Z3 for about 3 months now naked both sides. Not even a micro scratch I could see on the screen and that goes for my Z3 Tablet Compact too. You should be able to keep this phone naked if you be careful (duh) like not putting you phone with sharp objects like keys and maybe cleaning out your pockets once in a while... If a freak accident happens well those always suck but there's no way to stop that other than insuring your phone. Its probably the reason HTC's "Uh-Oh!" service has been getting the talk lately.

I believe on Sony's Z3 Compact forum it was mentioned that they use either GG3 or Dragontrail X, I'm guessing same for the Z3 you may get one or the other though GG3 is slightly more scratch resistant according to tests.

I used some Decal Skin covers which looked good but eventually started to peel off so i removed them and my Z3 was "naked" for about 10 days until the tempered screen and back protector arrived. In that time I have a huge mysterious scratch on the back on the device and also a smaller one! I could not believe it i actually thought it was a hair that was stuck to it, this big long windy scratch....
The weird thing is i haven't really left the house through studying for exams..... very strange.
Its also incredibly slippy "naked" so that's another consideration you need to make.
I would definately go for the tempered glass, i got mine for £4 from Amazon (front and back) and they're awesome, it also makes the screen kinda "jump out" and colours look great.

Devilchuk17 said:
Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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In your case, I don't think it's a scratch but a screen crack! Take a look closer under direct sunlight to be fixed

LG V10 Glass Sensitivity

Ok, So Hey guys that know me from years past. Figured I'd pass something on.
The LG V10 Glass seems to be very acceptable to low level shock. One of the things I reviewed constantly before buying was how durable the phone was. Throwing it and all, with the glass being unharmed.
Well I have dropped my V10 in the rain, and left little scuff marks on the plastic and even chips on the camera ring, but never any damage to the screen. Not even a scratch.
BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
The other night I was sitting in a chair on my porch and the phone fell out of my pocket. So what is that?? Maybe a 1/2 foot drop to the ground. and it cracked my screen with spider web cracks going in 4 directions from the crack.
I am really OCD about damage to a phone, and have in 8 yrs, never cracked a screen. Usually I have some sort of case, but as the V10 was supposed to not need one, and because of the fingerprint scanner issue, I never got one. Now i'm deciding rather to fix the screen or just get tempered glass and deal with the crack since the phone still functions perfectly.
What do you guys think?

Strange that I read everyone say they drop their phones because I dropped mines multiple times on multiple surfaces. I wear suits at work and put my phone in the chest pocket area and sometimes I miss and the phone never broke. No case no screen protector no nothing. You don't have insurance?

The variables of the angle of the drop and the point of impact make being OCD about screen damage tiresome.
Put ballistic glass on your phones and forget about it ...
It's cheap insurance.

XZ - Scratches Easily!

Buyer beware, I have two XZs and obviously given the cost I take care of them. I have noticed however lots of scratches on the back side from simply placing the phone down gently. I guess in 6 months, I can expect the back side to be covered in scratches!
For those not using a cover, give yours a look and see what I'm talking about ... scratches, scratches, scratches everywhere!!

how long have you been use the phone?

Mine Is just fine and I have used it in the army for a month at least without a case...

My question is Why would you buy 2 XZ's together !!!!????

Have had mine for nearly 6 weeks now, without any case and the phone at this point doesn't have a single scratch. Long may it continue.
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Glad to hear you all have had better luck than me .. I bought 2 phones because I received a 2 for 1 offer, so needless to say I grabbed a black and platinum model. The black by far is showing more scratches, and again this is just by setting it down on tables, nothing harsh. Let's see if others weigh in .. I think others are seeing what I'm seeing ... it's riduculous because my Z5 after a whole year of use has zero scratches, and my XZ after only one month looks as if I ran my key across it repeatedly!

enrique71 said:
Glad to hear you all have had better luck than me .. I bought 2 phones because I received a 2 for 1 offer, so needless to say I grabbed a black and platinum model. The black by far is showing more scratches, and again this is just by setting it down on tables, nothing harsh. Let's see if others weigh in .. I think others are seeing what I'm seeing ... it's riduculous because my Z5 after a whole year of use has zero scratches, and my XZ after only one month looks as if I ran my key across it repeatedly!
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I don't have any scratches but I dropped my phone on Tarmac a few weeks ago so I do have 3-4 dents.
You can always get the back replaced from a Sony Service Center or an aftermarket product very easily if it bothers you too much.

pic or it didnt happened you have 2 xz right? the other one can take photos i guess

I also got tiny scratches here and there on the back of my XZ, seems it is easy to get scratched by little pieces of sand or debris on hard surface, I got mine scratched on a glass table.
However the oily fingerprints you leave on the back will cover up the scratches so it only become apparent when you clean your phone.

ryo81 said:
I also got tiny scratches here and there on the back of my XZ, seems it is easy to get scratched by little pieces of sand or debris on hard surface, I got mine scratched on a glass table.
However the oily fingerprints you leave on the back will cover up the scratches so it only become apparent when you clean your phone.
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That's exactly right, my point was that the back surface definately scratches easily .. I didn't run my phone across a gravel road, but I do set it down on glass often (gently). Wish the back cover was more like that of the Z5 .. my gold Z5 doesn't have a single blemish anywhere! ohh well. Here 's a picture for those who don't believe me .. not sure why I'd lie, but here you.

The back is what, painted metal? Of course it will be scratchable, and more so than the glass. Anything harder than the phone surface will scratch it. Sand will scratch almost anything, that is probably why sand paper is so useful.
That said, mine has held up pretty well. I have one very fine scratch on the back that is barely noticeable. Nothing like your photo. In fact, it might even buff out. The XZ is certainly as durable as expected. I don't baby it, but I am not careless.
This phone (like most) looks too good to stick it in an ugly case, plus it is already almost too big for my pockets without a case. However, if you are clumsy, have dirty hands, have sandy pockets, or keep your phone in a purse full of coins and keys then you should probably get a case.