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[Q] Nexus one versus Nexus S

Do you really think the Nexus S will make half the splash in the phone world that the Nexus One did? I am no longer an android fanboy as I feel android has passed it's prime but I do want to pose this question. I mean the Nexus S seems good on paper but really all it is is another galaxy S device with a front facing camera. The processor is still the same which will likely lead to the same buffer issues that caused lag on the other devices (though some blamed this on touchwiz) and it still feels very cheap and plasticky. I think the majority like at least a little heft with their phones, not a paperweight but enough so you know that if you drop it it wont break like an egg. I wanted to find out the opinion of the XDA community

z33dev33l said:
Do you really think the Nexus S will make half the splash in the phone world that the Nexus One did? I am no longer an android fanboy as I feel android has passed it's prime but I do want to pose this question. I mean the Nexus S seems good on paper but really all it is is another galaxy S device with a front facing camera. The processor is still the same which will likely lead to the same buffer issues that caused lag on the other devices (though some blamed this on touchwiz) and it still feels very cheap and plasticky. I think the majority like at least a little heft with their phones, not a paperweight but enough so you know that if you drop it it wont break like an egg. I wanted to find out the opinion of the XDA community
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I'm thinking quite of the opposite: I think the Nexus S will have a bigger impact on the phone world, since you're able to buy it from real stores and more places than just online without a contract. Most people who buy cellphones don't want to put down the whole $$$ right then.
And what I'd be curious of: Have you held one in your hand and tested it on beeing "cheap and plasticky"? I have a Galaxy S and I'm pretty happy with it, I don't need any type of metal to ruin my reception.

Unfortunately it is a little "plasticy." I'm afraid to set my Nexus down on any surface that might possibly scratch plastic, and when it's hot my hand gets VERY sweaty on the plastic backing. It's also an ungodly fingerprint magnet. One of the prime reasons I'm switching to a G2. Why have a "super sexy" phone if it's only "super sexy" after I scrub it with a microfiber cloth and set it on my desk without touching it?

* no led notification
* no expandable memory
* made by Samsung
These are big disappointments for me. I don't want an " i " like device so stupid how Samsung is trying to model after it. Wish HTC made the successor to the nexus, at least updates with them are reasonable.

magicriggs said:
* no led notification
* no expandable memory
* made by Samsung
These are big disappointments for me. I don't want an " i " like device so stupid how Samsung is trying to model after it. Wish HTC made the successor to the nexus, at least updates with them are reasonable.
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To be fair, the updates with the Nexus S are handled by Google and therefore basically instant.

magicriggs said:
* no led notification
* no expandable memory
* made by Samsung
These are big disappointments for me. I don't want an " i " like device so stupid how Samsung is trying to model after it. Wish HTC made the successor to the nexus, at least updates with them are reasonable.
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TheBiles said:
Unfortunately it is a little "plasticy." I'm afraid to set my Nexus down on any surface that might possibly scratch plastic, and when it's hot my hand gets VERY sweaty on the plastic backing. It's also an ungodly fingerprint magnet. One of the prime reasons I'm switching to a G2. Why have a "super sexy" phone if it's only "super sexy" after I scrub it with a microfiber cloth and set it on my desk without touching it?
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You actually said quite everything I was thinking about this phone. I had one for 30mins and I actually prefer my x10 to it since I'm waiting for a phone that is REALLY better to change.

TheBiles said:
To be fair, the updates with the Nexus S are handled by Google and therefore basically instant.
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Really didn't know that my experience with Samsung was based off the fascinate and Samsung support was lack there of. But it makes sense it's a Google phone so it will get the updates quicker..duh. lol wasn't thinking.

I think the Nexus S will make a very little splash compared with the Nexus One. When the N1 came out it featured hardware many had never seen before (One of the first phones with a 1ghz processor, I believe the only one that came before it was the HD2 in Europe). The Nexus S is laughable by comparison and I will tell you why.
-It has the nearly same specs as Galaxy S devices
It it bad enough that this phone did not live up to expectations by using the same hardware that existing phones already have, it makes the situtation worst when every major U.S. carrier ALREADY has a variant of nearly the same hardware.
-No Micro SD card slot
I feel this will be the future but there is a small problem with this. The Galaxy S line has 16gb of onboard storage AND a Micro SD slot, why take something away?
-No Notification Light
On my phone when I recieve and SMS or E-Mail my notification light starts blinking to let me know I have something to check. On this device (as well as SGS variants) you have no Notification Light so you must hit the power button just to check to see if you have a notification.
-It only uses T-Mobile's 3g band (in the US)
With Google's advertising campaign they are obviously taking a page out of Apple's playbook (If you have seen the commercial you know what I am talking about). The Nexus One was available on At&t so it provided users an alternative to getting an iPhone to get the best hardware and software Android has to offer (at the time of the initial launch anyway). If the first Nexus device had At&t 3g bands then surely Google would want to compete with Apple again right, wrong! Why take an Apple-esque approach to an Ad campaign and not compete on the same carrier?
-No HSPA+
We have already addressed this only has 3g on T-Mobile. T-Mobile has been rolling out HSPA+ pretty aggressively as of late to try to compete with WiMax and the soon to be LTE devices. You would think Google's premier device would be rocking the new 4g data speeds but surprising it isn't. The G2 and MyTouch 4G take advantage of HSPA+ but the supposed "Pure Google" device doesn't, horrible.
The selling points of the Nexus S aren't very strong to the average consumer. NFC is nearly useless right now outside of scanning Google provided material. "Pure Google" is probably the worst niche of all. The majority of consumers that buy Android devices do not know the advantages of Pure Google or know the difference betweens Eclair, Froyo, and Gingerbread. To make matters worst the consumers who do know the advantages of a "Pure Google" experience stray away from the Nexus S because they realize the hardware isn't much better than their existing devices. At&t, Sprint, and Verizon customers aren't going to switch because they have a similar device without switching carriers and T-Mobile customers will get the more mainstream, HSPA+ touting MyTouch 4g. I think the Nexus One should have been the device sold in stores and the Nexus S should have been the device sold online only.
Rant, Fin.

Would you be interested in this phone?

A Simple Phone for "Smartphone Enthusiasts".
Dual Core 1ghz processor, 1gb of ram, 1gb of rom. Front 1.3mp camera and back 5mp camera with led flash and a good design.
Nice 480*800 screen or qHD. We are still working out screen resolution/size. It would be 4inch (480x800) or 4.3" (qHD
The catch here is. It would be off-contract ( unlocked ). With a choice of roms staring with CyanogenMod and Stock Android.
People could port more to it, like MeeGo or MIUI
All this for $299-$349. Remember the Off Contract part
Would you buy something like this? Or would you go with a contract phone that you get with your carrier?
Please leave feedback below

Sounds pretty nice to me, so it would come unlocked? I think it would sell if it had qHD screen and you sent it to review to the big companies, get some publicity. Although, sometimes contract is important, what carriers would it work on? You should work it out with carriers to make it free.
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For that price, yes, absolutely. That sounds like a great value. The physical design, however, would likely play a large role in the people's decision-making process. Likewise, so do the bands.
I'd agree with the previous poster on publicity though. Get it out to some popular sites for a review and you'll likely sell a few.

techno-update said:
Sounds pretty nice to me, so it would come unlocked? I think it would sell if it had qHD screen and you sent it to review to the big companies, get some publicity. Although, sometimes contract is important, what carriers would it work on? You should work it out with carriers to make it free.
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The antenna is still in debate, we have separate AT&T 3G and a T-Mobile 3G antennas. We will probably go for the At&t compatible one just to reach a larger audience. Pentaband GSM antennas are very hard to come buy for small buyers ( 1k or less). But definitively not CDMA carriers.
Our "game plan" is to go to the community once we have the prototype ready and ask for investment, on like Kickstarter or some other website like that for the first wave of devices, if we sell those we can make more.
I find it very unlikely that we can get contracts any time soon. We will really target the "Enthusiast" market with the phone.
The design will be out soon enough. it will be "ICS ready", since neither meego nor android will use physical buttons bellow the display.
We are really grateful that Android exists so we can work on products like this for a smaller group of people that love their devices.

Sounds like a phone I would buy. And I am quite the "smartphone enthusiast" and I'm a big fan of buying off contract.
Of course I'm on T-Mobile, but regardless, assuming I was on AT&T I would seriously consider it.
I would like to point out that you would want to consider by the time you would be able to "realistically" release this phone, are the specs going to be sufficient for your target audience? I'm not talking about releasing a "cutting edge" phone, at this very moment phones are pushing 1.5 dual core, and I know (currently owning a 1.0 dual core phone) that my phone is more than sufficient for all my tasks, heavy-duty or not, and will continue to be for quite some time.

Sounds awesome I'm sure you'd sell many but the design and size will play a big part even if you have great internals,, But I would buy just for the modding capabilities,, add on parts like keyboard, better camera, betters flash for pictures,, that be nice make it unique.

Absolutely! I just purchased my Motorola Defy free of contract for approximately $299. My last 2 android phones were also purchased free of contracts, so I would deffinitely consider it and be glad it's not with a contract. Would it be available in Europe?

If it were to be released soon, yes, because then it would have a running chance at the competing phones being released. The later it would be released, the more beefed up the specs would have to be. Im sure in 6 months we'll be seeing 1.5-2.0 dual core or hell even maybe even a quad core seeing as how fast tech moves nowadays

I usually don't buy contract phones, but get the devices of my choice from amazon.
The specs sound nice, but one of the most important factors would be the design.

[Q] Phone upgrade recommendation.

I'm running cm7.2 on my Motorola defy, and due to a need for more storage(64gb sd support) I am upgrading. I primarily do emails, music, and occasional photography and web browsing.
I am looking for a phone that has:
- Some sort of cyanogenmod support, official would be preferable.
- 64gb sd support.
- Decent battery life.
- 8mp camera, a good lense would also be nice.
- Gorilla glass.
- Smaller than the Galaxy S2, as my hands are too small.
- Decent specs.
I had a look at the htc sensation(not 4g), and it looked fine- except I've heard things about it overheating, and having abysmal battery life. I had a look at anker batteries, and the like but getting them shipped to my country would be expensive. It's my primary choice currently, but I'm still iffy about it, hence this thread.
Thankyou in advance.

Even though the Development is fantastic, I didn't find the Sensation much chop.
So far, the 64GB card has worked for me in:
HTC Vivid 4G
LG Nitro HD
Samsung Galaxy S2 i9100
Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 and i717
Dell Streak 5
HTC Incredible S (a bit patchy - required a few formats before it recognised)
There are some reports of it working in the Motorola Atrix also, although I didn't try it.
Hope this helps! It probably works in a lot more, these are just the ones I've tried personally

Thanks.
So as an opinion, would you recommend the Incredible S over the sensation if the two were relatively similar in price?

get the vivid or s2 9100, both fit ur needa to the T.

choovanski said:
Thanks.
So as an opinion, would you recommend the Incredible S over the sensation if the two were relatively similar in price?
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No. If they are similar in price, get the Sensation. The Incredible S, while excellent in everyday use, is much older on paper and is not worth the price of a Sensation.
The Development for Sensation here makes it a good phone. The only reasons I didn't like it was the out-of-box performance (no modifications), and the fact that out of three units I've owned, two have overheated or shorted out and died completely. Those experiences just left a bitter taste for me
I'd recommend a Vivid/Raider/Velocity (all the same phone) over anything else HTC at the moment. It's a pity you can't be pursuaded to the size of the GS2, as that's the best all-rounder on the market currently

Sensation is good. but if you like smaller hanset, I think Xperia sola is good for you. it's dual core and the rest of the specs are good too. they dont say that if its capable to use a 64GB sd card, but you can try it anyway. its a lil bit pricy tho..
...alternatively you can consider Droid Razr. a 64GB sdcard works in Razr too,

The vivid is twice the price of the sensation, and I will not be able to take advantage of the 4g.
My step-dad has the S2, and it's very nice- but I'm only 5'8 and have girly hands, so I can't reach all of the screen. It's a bummer.
Due to the sensation's overheating problems, would you recommend avoiding it completely? I'm getting mine(regardless of the price) shipped from Australia, or Singapore so I'm not sure how htc are about warranty. I have had terrible overheating problems, fire and all that with hp computers and would rather not go down that road again.

choovanski said:
The vivid is twice the price of the sensation, and I will not be able to take advantage of the 4g.
My step-dad has the S2, and it's very nice- but I'm only 5'8 and have girly hands, so I can't reach all of the screen. It's a bummer.
Due to the sensation's overheating problems, would you recommend avoiding it completely? I'm getting mine(regardless of the price) shipped from Australia, or Singapore so I'm not sure how htc are about warranty. I have had terrible overheating problems, fire and all that with hp computers and would rather not go down that road again.
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What radio bands does your network use?
I found my Vivid right here on XDA for 300 dollars. Sensations here are around the 230 mark, so there isn't a whole lot of difference, unless you are looking at retail prices in which case there will be.
I personally will not touch another Sensation, but it may be completely bad luck on my part. There are plenty here who love it, and it's important to remember that for every member who raises an issue with their handset, there are 100 who have none
As far as warranty goes, handsets have to go back to country of origin for servicing if they are carrier branded. I believe an International warranty applied only on unbranded handsets - this may be incorrect though.
Even though I'm in Australia and ship a few phones myself, I'd recommend against sourcing from here if you can. Getting phones out of Australia is a nightmare due to silly Lithium battery regulations. I source most of my handsets from the US and Hong Kong Also, prices here are over-inflated for personal technology. We are one of the most expensive nations in the world for gadgets.
Out of curiosity, where are you located?

New Zealand. The prices for tech are stupidly high here, I would never buy in this country.
My network, 2degrees says "we run a 900MHz GSM network. Data is provided using both GPRS and EDGE technology. We provide HSDPA at 2100MHZ within our Mobile Broadband Zones. Outside our Mobile Broadband Zones we use 2G 900 MHz or 3G 2100MHz."
So those are the kind of specs I would need.
The Vivid is even bigger than the galaxy.. Wow. The sensation seems to be the same size, but feels a lot smaller. Maybe its the case my step-dad has on his. Will have to do a test.
Out of interest, how do you get phones on xda? Also how much is the S2 on here?

choovanski said:
New Zealand. The prices for tech are stupidly high here, I would never buy in this country.
My network, 2degrees says "we run a 900MHz GSM network. Data is provided using both GPRS and EDGE technology. We provide HSDPA at 2100MHZ within our Mobile Broadband Zones. Outside our Mobile Broadband Zones we use 2G 900 MHz or 3G 2100MHz."
So those are the kind of specs I would need.
The Vivid is even bigger than the galaxy.. Wow. The sensation seems to be the same size, but feels a lot smaller. Maybe its the case my step-dad has on his. Will have to do a test.
Out of interest, how do you get phones on xda? Also how much is the S2 on here?
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Yeah, you poor buggers get hit harder than what we do. How's petrol there these days? It was 1.80 a litre last time I was there. We're not far off that here, now
2100MHz 3G you'll get on just about every phone in existence, same with 900MHz GSM. I use a Vivid daily and it's marginally smaller than the GS2, and very close to the size of the Sensation (just heavier).
There's a Marketplace here on XDA. Unfortunately they've just put a rule in place limiting access for newer members. Average going price here for a GS2 is around US350 for a black model. White ones a little higher. You're lucky in that you can take any model and it will work so long as it's unlocked. You'll need to factor in shipping also, it's around US50 for a phone and US60 for a tablet to Australia, don't expect it'd be much more to NZ.

I don't drive, and for that I am glad. Things are expensive here.
Well, I won't be able to use the market place due to restrictions. So I will have to settle for an import. Is AUSD410 a good price for a sensation, as I have a relative who would be able to pick one up for me in Australia when they go.
When you mentioned the lithium customs problem, does that go for the luggage that is not the carry on?
Sorry if it's too many questions, it's just I'm a student and I don't want to sink my money into a bad phone.

choovanski said:
I don't drive, and for that I am glad. Things are expensive here.
Well, I won't be able to use the market place due to restrictions. So I will have to settle for an import. Is AUSD410 a good price for a sensation, as I have a relative who would be able to pick one up for me in Australia when they go.
When you mentioned the lithium customs problem, does that go for the luggage that is not the carry on?
Sorry if it's too many questions, it's just I'm a student and I don't want to sink my money into a bad phone.
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Carry-on luggage doesn't seem to be a problem (at least domestically), I carried multiple phones/tablets with me on my last couple of trips and didn't run into any issues.
To be honest, that's GS2 territory price-wise. What's your budget, and what do you most desire?

I just really want a device that supports 64gb sd, has a decent camera, a good battery and isn't huge. I'm still really iffy about phones the size of the galaxy S2, because I just can't reach all of the screen. The Incredible S is looking tempting, because of the size and the fact people say good things about it's battery life.
I wouldn't want want to spend much more than NZD550, which is AUD430 and USD450.

choovanski said:
I just really want a device that supports 64gb sd, has a decent camera, a good battery and isn't huge. I'm still really iffy about phones the size of the galaxy S2, because I just can't reach all of the screen. The Incredible S is looking tempting, because of the size and the fact people say good things about it's battery life.
I wouldn't want want to spend much more than NZD550, which is AUD430 and USD450.
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There's quite aa few options in your budget, but the size limitation rules out the majority, although I definitely understand it. I don't think I could comfortably use any of my phones one-handed!
You should be able to pick up an Incredible S for around the AU300 mark. I'm not 100% sure on comparability with a 64GB card, mine did work eventually but it took a few formats and a bit of coaxing, it certainly wasn't just drop-in-and-go.
What about one of the newer Sony Ericsson phones, like the Arc or Arc S, or even the Ray might be a better fit for you?
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The arc S looks very nice, and there are some cases where people have been able to get 64gb cards to work on it. While the headphone jack placement is bad, it's of a good size and has a great camera. If you know of a way that I could buy one for a decent price, I would be very grateful.

Nice choice. There is limited difference between the Arc and Arc S (just a hifher-clocked SoC and 1080p video) and no size difference at all, so even if the Arc S is out of budget, there wouldn't be a lot of difference in taking the Arc instead.
Is the width of the GS2 the off-putting feature? The Arc is narrower and thinner, but about the same length overall?
I'll see what I can dig up for you
Sent from my HTC Vivid

And the hight of the screen, I couldn't actually reach the status bar.
The arc is well within my price range, but I would like the faster processor of the arc s.
Thankyou so much for the help.

choovanski said:
And the hight of the screen, I couldn't actually reach the status bar.
The arc is well within my price range, but I would like the faster processor of the arc s.
Thankyou so much for the help.
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You can use this tool at PhoneArena to compare dimensions if you like. Remove the TyTN and add any four phones you like.
Chapest prices I could find you on the Arc S in Australia are eBay unfortunately. There are a couple here on the MP, but after shipping to Australia they'll come out more.
You're looking at around the 410 mark, that's including postage to Australia. I dug it up in white, silver and blue. I can't speak for the seller with the silver and blue units, but I can tell you that even though IMobilePhoneX send their stuff from Hong Kong, it is genuine and always factory fresh. I have dealt with them multiple times.
Anything else I can help with, let me know

Massive thanks.
I just order the arc S from IMobilePhoneX. Thanks for the recommendation. I assume it should be arriving before next Sunday, am I correct in that assumption?
Also, on a related note- are you running ICS, and if so is it really that much better than gingerbread?
Once again, thankyou.

choovanski said:
Massive thanks.
I just order the arc S from IMobilePhoneX. Thanks for the recommendation. I assume it should be arriving before next Sunday, am I correct in that assumption?
Also, on a related note- are you running ICS, and if so is it really that much better than gingerbread?
Once again, thankyou.
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My pleasure.
I would guess so. That gives it seven days from HK, which is possible as they usually use a courier.
I am running ICS, but am not the biggest advocate for it. I dislike the 'stock' ICS launcher/UI, and only enjoy ICS on my Vivid because it has Sense over the top. It takes a few cues from Honeycomb naturally, and I wasn't the biggest fan of that UI either.
Performance-wise it is a definite improvement, especially with the GPU now rendering the little things like homescreen flicking, opening/flicking the app drawer etc. ICS on the Vivid is much more fluid and responsive than GB (not that GB was bad by any means - ICS is just noticeably better).
What annoys me the most is that it breaks compatibility with my favourite launcher, LauncherPro. There's no development for it anymore either, so it's probably going to be that way for a long time.
It all comes down to personal preference on the look, but the performance and rendering gains are definitely there

[Q] Contemplating phones, want advice.

Hi everyone,
I'm a longtime lurker in these forums, and I'd love some advice on phone options.
I'm a Verizon Wireless customer, and for some specific reasons, have to stay that way.
My current phone is a Droid 2 Global. It's my first Android device. Previously, I had Windows Mobile, for phones and PDAs, dating all the way back to when it was called Windows CE.
I'm happy-ish with Android, and plan on staying with Android for now, but it's time to upgrade, and I'd like to do it while I can still stay on my grandfathered unlimited data plan (so anytime between now and the next 3-4 months).
I'd like to get a phone I'll be happy with for the next 2 years, so I'd like to have some future-facing features, like high resolution and NFC, in addition to enough RAM to run today's software and tomorrow's.
My current phone, the D2G, running the stock rom and the .629 update, is slow like a turtle moving through molasses. It once wasn't this way, and it's not overloaded with apps, but it's a situation I'd like to avoid in the future.
So, in my next phone, I'm looking for the following, and I can't seem to find a phone that has all of these features:
-removable, easily replaceable battery (so I can carry around more than one)
-global (GSM/HSPA) capability
-physical keyboard
-1 GB RAM or more
-dual core processor (or better)
-4G LTE
-ICS + moderately decent upgrade schedule for future releases
-NFC
-1280x720 screen
No phone matches all of these. The three phones that come closest are:
1. HTC Rezound: no physical keyboard or NFC
2. Samsung Galaxy Nexus: no physical keyboard or global capability
3. Droid 4: non-removable battery, no NFC, no 1280x720 screen
I travel internationally a couple of times a year, but not more frequently, so I suppose that I could just keep my current phone (the D2G, which is SIM-unlocked) for world-roaming purposes, and use it when I travel.
I've had a physical keyboard for a long time - my last 5 phones have had one, and I type much faster on it. I could give it up, but don't really want to.
I feel like NFC is a serious want-to-have, not for today, but for 12 months from now, when it'll be convenient and more common.
I want the higher resolution 1280x720 screen. I don't HAVE to have it, but when buying a phone for 2 years, it seems like it'd be foolish not to get it.
The other thing that tempts me is that it seems like we have phones with quad-core processors just around the corner - is it worth waiting a few more months to get one? My single core D2G was the fastest phone out there when I got it about two years ago, and now it's one of the absolute slowest - does it make sense to go dual core when quad cores are here?
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Anyway, that's what I am thinking about. Can anyone provide some guidance?
Should I just bite the bullet and get the Galaxy Nexus, and travel globally with my slow-as-molasses D2G? Or should I saddle up with the Droid 4 and its sad screen, forget about replacing the battery, and live near a charger at all times? Or maybe just wait until something cooler comes out from around the corner?

Anyone?
Bueller? Bueller?

Wait a couple weeks for the S3 and either use your D2G for global use, or buy an incredible 2 or Droid 3 for global use on the cheap. Physical keyboard is worthless now, as screen sizes coupled with amazing auto correct software make touchscreen keyboards a breeze and an obvious choice.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA

Would you take the SIII over the Galaxy Nexus?
Are the non-Nexus Samsungs much harder to root?

I honestly love the Nexus. It's sexy and snappy. I bought one for my wife. I don't think the SIII will be harder to root than the Nexus. Your call really. The SIII will be newer and the "it" phone for a while, but the Nexus is still very capable and is gonna be way cheaper right now. You can probably get a Nexus for about $100 on contract as long as you avoid corporate Verizon stores. They will rape you on price and give you **** service. Check Costco or Best Buy in your area. They'll be cheaper on both devices than a Verizon store.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA

one thing I would say about the resolution is that its a bit of a marketing ploy.
once you start getting above WVGA resolutions unless you perch the device on your nose its quite hard to tell the difference.
Whats more important is actually the screen tech, I can promise you that a decent panel at a lower res will look a lot better than a cheap or average panel with a high res.
Will time make a difference? nope, not unless you become very short sighted and actually have the device on the end of your nose
To be honest id agree with you on the NFC thing, if your set on keeping it for a few years it would be worth it, but that's a relatively newish tech hitting the markets, might be worth holding back a few months until Q3 12 to see whats in the pipe line. A lot more NFC devices will be coming out, one of them is bound to tick more of your boxes....
just a thought.

Nexus is always a good bet...

Coming from Sprint, I don't really know about Verizon's phones..
However,
Physical Keyboards are a dying breed. Most of these phones will be bulky and have bigger batteries or shorter battery life.
Currently typing this on my Galaxy Nexus, I highly recommended this phone.
Yes, there are only soft buttons (sans the power and volume), but its definitely future tech.
Amazing resolution (the screen has mfc defects, but they're often overlooked)
LTE, HSPA, GSM
And I do believe it has a place for your SIM card (Sprint doesn't use sim cards, so I'm not sure)
The phones extremely thin, light battery, and has a nice feeling curved glass and battery cover.
Great battery life once you unlock it and flash a battery mod.
No complaints here
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA

[Q] To G2 or not to G2, this is the question...

I've been on a T-Mo MVNO for a couple years now and have no plans on changing. Currently, have a Nexus 4 and thinking about changing phones to get a little bit bigger screen and maybe LTE. Not to leave out a bigger battery....
Granted that most of you are fans of the G2, but given a comparison of the two phones, what do you think about buying this phone now. If I can find a new or mint D802 for around $300 or maybe a bit less, does it seem like a viable choice for another two years?

For a mint condition, so a used phone, 300 is too much. I got mine on eBay 2 weeks ago for 220. Seller was gazelle-store, condition "good", not "very good" but looks brand new.
The only thing I dislike is the lack of 700mhz support for future network upgrades. There also doesn't seem to be a lot of developer support if you want to keep a rom with Wi-Fi calling.
If you're worried about the button placement, don't be. The knock code works really well, and you have volume control in the pull down. Great phone overall.

DeucesAx said:
For a mint condition, so a used phone, 300 is too much. I got mine on eBay 2 weeks ago for 220. Seller was gazelle-store, condition "good", not "very good" but looks brand new.
The only thing I dislike is the lack of 700mhz support for future network upgrades. There also doesn't seem to be a lot of developer support if you want to keep a rom with Wi-Fi calling.
If you're worried about the button placement, don't be. The knock code works really well, and you have volume control in the pull down. Great phone overall.
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Thank you for the response. A few more questions if you don't mind. I'll have to keep my eyes open on eBay. I've got a week wait until profit sharing hits to make the decision.
It's my understanding, I need the D802 model to support LTE, correct? Otherwise the 801 is no different than my Nexus 4. Would you explain the 700MHz (?) band point you made?
As for the on the back buttons, when I first saw that when the phone came out, it made sense to me.
As I said before, bigger screen, LTE support and battery are my criteria. So far, not much approaches the G2. If you didn't get the G2, what would have been your choice?

ph37rd said:
Thank you for the response. A few more questions if you don't mind. I'll have to keep my eyes open on eBay. I've got a week wait until profit sharing hits to make the decision.
It's my understanding, I need the D802 model to support LTE, correct? Otherwise the 801 is no different than my Nexus 4. Would you explain the 700MHz (?) band point you made?
As for the on the back buttons, when I first saw that when the phone came out, it made sense to me.
As I said before, bigger screen, LTE support and battery are my criteria. So far, not much approaches the G2. If you didn't get the G2, what would have been your choice?
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The d802 is missing the 1700 mhz frequency, so I would stick to he d801. You need 1700 and 2100.
T-Mobile just bought the 700 mhz frequency range from Verizon, which I think they will use to cover rural regions. I heard contradicting statements about the 700 mhz capabilities of the lg2, so maybe someone more knowledgeable can shime in.
I need Wi-Fi calling, so I can't use nexus devices. If that doesn't matter for you, maybe wait for the nexus 6. Comes out in October I think.
If battery is a huge issue for you, maybe you should consider an s4/s5. Being able to just carry multiple batteries is nice, i sort of miss it from my S3. But then I have a 10000 Mah external one, so whatever.
Overall the lg2 seemed to have the best bang for the buck, that's why I bought it.
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