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I hate to nit-pick and I'm generally happy and relieved that I simply even got a unit, but both my left and right side are now creaky.. even the bottom is starting a bit.
I still have a week left, what should I do? Should I just return the unit and wait it out? Do anything think theres a way to stop the creaking?
Mine does the same, I am going to just accept it as others have this issue as well.
define creak? Mine has some flex in the back but no actual sound accompanying it.
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Mine does the same, I am going to just accept it as others have this issue as well.
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Ya I've read that it's fairly widespread, but does yours creak on 3/4 of the sides? or just the left side?
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define creak? Mine has some flex in the back but no actual sound accompanying it.
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definitely with sound. it clicks
Nope none of that.
PS: I've had it for 2 weeks now.
Mine creaks on the 3/4 of the right side. That is if i press it/hold it hard enough. Usually I'm cradling it with both hands or having it attached to the keyboard dock, so it's not that big of a deal for me.
And we wonder how they got this tablet down to $400 Mine creaks on the upper right if I apply a little pressure (like if I hold it with one hand on that side), but it's not like it creaks enough to drive me crazy, or even drive me irritated. You sacrifice build quality for hitting that magic $400 price point, it is what it is.
If there is flex, then there means that there is empty space. If that's the case, why isn't the TF slimmer?!
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And we wonder how they got this tablet down to $400 Mine creaks on the upper right if I apply a little pressure (like if I hold it with one hand on that side), but it's not like it creaks enough to drive me crazy, or even drive me irritated. You sacrifice build quality for hitting that magic $400 price point, it is what it is.
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I'm sorry but that's simply false
My European HTC hero back cover creaked from the start and that thing has only seen torment for the past 2 years (7 ft. plus drops multiple times a week, don't ask ;_; ) and it's in full working order, undamaged. Creaky plastic does not signify build quality.
Mine creaks on the right hand side but I generally hold it with my left hand on the back of the unit or rest it on my stomach when in portrait mode, feet up sitting in my La-Z-Boy.
Had mine for 2 weeks and don't have any creaking in any orientation.
I have quite a bit of creaking as well, along with a gap on the left-hand side of the screen. I'll probably swap mine out before my 30 days is up with Amazon, and when stock is more available. I'm hoping that's how it works out, anyways.
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I'm sorry but that's simply false
My European HTC hero back cover creaked from the start and that thing has only seen torment for the past 2 years (7 ft. plus drops multiple times a week, don't ask ;_; ) and it's in full working order, undamaged. Creaky plastic does not signify build quality.
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And neither does light bleed, gaps, dust under the screen, or sharp edges, I guess Look I'm fine with some cut corners, it's what you have to expect when something seems to affordable too be true. I'm not saying that the Transformer is going to fall apart in your hands, but creaky build quality is usually a result of cutting corners.
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And neither does light bleed, gaps, dust under the screen, or sharp edges, I guess Look I'm fine with some cut corners, it's what you have to expect when something seems to affordable too be true. I'm not saying that the Transformer is going to fall apart in your hands, but creaky build quality is usually a result of cutting corners.
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Not everyone has lightbleed and even the iPad and iPad 2 had lightbleed issues, I doubt those were because of shoddy manufacturing.
Also the sharp edges are part of the design, I can't really relate to anyone complaining about the "sharp"corners since the angular bezel edge design really isn't that bad on your finger tips or hands.
Also my HTC hero has a dust spec under the screen, just because something isn't perfect in design doesn't mean it's shoddy manufacturing or cutting corners in manufacturing, it's just a flawed design.
Not sharp corners, sharp edges -- run your fingers along the back edge of the tablet and you'll see. Look, I don't care much about the build quality, it's satisfactory to me, but some of you are in denial
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Not sharp corners, sharp edges -- run your fingers along the back edge of the tablet and you'll see. Look, I don't care much about the build quality, it's satisfactory to me, but some of you are in denial
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Not denial, my point is it's flawed design, not build quality.
Sharp edges on plastic, enough to cut if you were the careless type, are not bad design, it's cutting corners, which is build quality. Exposed plastic like that would normally be dulled so as to not be so sharp, but leaving it raw like that is a cost-cutting move, and is a build-quality issue. So is light bleeding, screen dust, and creaking.
I can't poll every Transformer owner to see if they all have the same build quality issues, but I bet if a good number ran their fingers along the back edge to check for sharpness, applied pressure to the case to hear it creak, or checked for light bleeding, they'd have one, if not all three. Things to be expected during a first run, and definitely expected when you've undercut the competition by so much. My position is if those things bother you, return it. I'm keeping mine.
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Sharp edges on plastic, enough to cut if you were the careless type, are not bad design, it's cutting corners, which is build quality. Exposed plastic like that would normally be dulled so as to not be so sharp, but leaving it raw like that is a cost-cutting move, and is a build-quality issue. So is light bleeding, screen dust, and creaking.
I can't poll every Transformer owner to see if they all have the same build quality issues, but I bet if a good number ran their fingers along the back edge to check for sharpness, applied pressure to the case to hear it creak, or checked for light bleeding, they'd have one, if not all three. Things to be expected during a first run, and definitely expected when you've undercut the competition by so much. My position is if those things bother you, return it. I'm keeping mine.
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First off light bleeding is a fault of the LCD manufacturer. LG was at fault for the bad iPad 2 screens. Apple used both LG and Samsung, and only the LG ones had the issue quite regularly.
I don't have any plastic edges on mine. My plastic backing definitely fits inside the aluminum frame. I cannot feel any sharp edges along my back, and I'm trying to be nit picky for the sake of your argument. I have a slight creek in one spot on the right edge, that is the only build quality issue I have of all, and it is slight. My suggestion if you see separation or your plastic back is not inside the frame RMA it to Asus, or return to the store. It could be as simple of a fix of them taking it apart and putting it back together with more care.
I think the point is being missed here. I'm fine with the sharp edge -- hell, mine stays in the Asus case, I don't even feel it. The argument was whether or not build quality was compromised (and that includes parts from companies other than Asus, cost is cost), and I think it was. If you told me I could get a $400 tablet with an IPS screen, and I'd have to deal with a sharp edge and some creaking (I don't notice light bleed and I don't want to look for it because I don't want to notice it! ), I'd jump all over it. No need to get defensive, in the end it's just a piece of consumer electronics.
Normally I'm not one to obsess over this sorta thing but... My one month old TF seems to creak a lot when I press on the left edge (below the buttons) and either I'm going mad (quite possible) or it's getting worse...
If I grab it by the black bezel it's solid, it's when my thumb happens to rest on the bronze edge that it feels off and creaks audibly, I can seemingly push it back against the plastic back and feel it snap in or something. The other side has a tiny bit of it but it's nowhere near as bad... I'm just worried it might be stressing the screen or could loosen even more.
Mine doesn't feel very solid as well.It's a B50 model. I don't think there is any space between screen and glass. But a lack of strength is noticeable especially compared to iPAd2.
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Mine doesn't feel very solid as well.It's a B50 model. I don't think there is any space between screen and glass. But a lack of strength is noticeable especially compared to iPAd2.
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Agree..Price to Quality rato on TF...as well with anyother company. A reason why Apple commands a premium for QC.
I have exactly the same problem and think the creaks got worse since I bought my TF. Otherwise it's a great device but the browser is bad. And I spend 70% of the time on the tablet using it.
Mine developed the same problem down the left hand side after a couple of days of receiving it and just got worse and worse. sent it back after a week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zfqx9-VHuE
The replacement doesn't creak like the old one but if i squeeze the edges around the power/volume buttons the back moves in so there's some looseness. Right now i don't notice it in normal use and considering it took a month to get a replacement it's not worth sending it back. But i reckon at some point in the future i'll have to sendit in for repair.
I really like this device, and have to say i'm really impressed with the updates and that Asus seems to be listening to their customers - but the build quality in my experience is not good, i'd have happily paid an extra £50 for a more solid/robust build.
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Normally I'm not one to obsess over this sorta thing but... My one month old TF seems to creak a lot when I press on the left edge (below the buttons) and either I'm going mad (quite possible) or it's getting worse...
If I grab it by the black bezel it's solid, it's when my thumb happens to rest on the bronze edge that it feels off and creaks audibly, I can seemingly push it back against the plastic back and feel it snap in or something. The other side has a tiny bit of it but it's nowhere near as bad... I'm just worried it might be stressing the screen or could loosen even more.
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Lots of answers here if you search.
I agree it's super annoying.
But to venture a guess........the 3G transformer has a SIM slot in the exact location of the creaky side, soooooooo, it must be the lack of the SIM slot and included hardware that makes this thing creak. it would have been nice if Asus had stuffed something else into the WIFI model to fill the void. This is my only complaint with this device.
Mine uused to creak only on the right side bottom quarter... but I've noticed that it's been creaky in other places lately too. :/ But then again, it's not really as bad as some of what I've heard, and it's definitely more solid than my HP (which of course, was not of the envy line).
Mine creaks in the same spot as yours (OP) but I have it in a pretty nice carbon-fiber case now and it's a non-issue.
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Mine creaks in the same spot as yours (OP) but I have it in a pretty nice carbon-fiber case now and it's a non-issue.
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What is the Carbon Fiber Case you have? Where is it from?
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What is the Carbon Fiber Case you have? Where is it from?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17192114&postcount=283
Mine creaked and felt a little loose at first, then it stopped and everything feels really tight, i think messing with it one night i clicked something in place, the glass seems to sit more even as well.
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Hmm, thanks for the feedback guys... I guess if it ever gets worse I might put the warranty to good use. Right now it's sorta irksome but not bothersome enough for me to bother just yet.
I can sorta recreate the sound from that YouTube clip but only if I push back on the copper border the press in from the plastic back (ie pushing that section back and forth from both directions)... Meaning, if you obsess over it then it'll definitely drive you crazy and you'll probably even make it worse in the long run.
During normal handling mine definitely doesn't creak quite as much. I've sorta gotten into the habit of putting more of my hand around it when picking it up (when I've noticed it creak the most) versus just grabbing it by the very edge, which pretty much mitigates the issue. No creaking at all around the longer sides without the excess wrap around border so I don't even notice in a portrait orientarion (which is how I do most of my reading).
Honestly, if this continues to be my biggest complaint after a few months, I'll be pleased as punch. I just hope it doesn't get proggresively worse. I definitely wouldn't pay $100 more for a sslightly more solid feeling device without as many ports or forms of expansion (dock/microSD), but that's just me.
Likewise, if i don't obsess over it, it's not gonna bother me - not worth sending it off for a month at the moment. But at least we've got the warranty there if it gets worse.
Hi guys. I recently saw this (http://blog.whitesites.com/HTC-Sensation-4G-Chrome-Polished-Frame__634471425817343750_blog.htm) and decided to try this on my phone's battery cover. it looks pretty cool now, with the battery door shiny and mirrorish. you can try this out too, but make sure you dont sand the metal too hard after the dark blue paint falls off, because thats going to give it scratches that are hard to remove. you can use about 100 grit to remove the paint, then 400 to make the surface smooth. with the new look, i feel like i have a new phone again. haha
Post pictures when you are done! I was considering it too, but i really like the feel of the blue material...
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Post pictures when you are done! I was considering it too, but i really like the feel of the blue material...
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here, ive uploaded a picture, its in the first post. i like the new texture now, it feels just as smooth as the front glass! and it feels cooler in my hand too (maybe because im touching the metal directly, and not through the paint)
Wow! That looks really good! I'll do this when i have time
So here is a little trick to go along with that. Since the blue / purple backing on the battery cover was a rubber composite, it tended to hold heat more. Now that you got that barrier off, here is the next step. Wrap your battery in aluminum foil and then put the cover on. Since aluminum foil doesn't conduct heat it will transfer it to the backing (since it doesn't actually touch the battery without the foil bridge) and dissipate the heat during use. This will keep your temperature down and for what it is worth, extend lifeline of the battery. I actually did this a long time ago (only in didn't sand the back, I soaked the cover in acetate solution and the rubber peeled right off) and it works fairly well, especially when using CPU for a duration like online music.
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So here is a little trick to go along with that. Since the blue / purple backing on the battery cover was a rubber composite, it tended to hold heat more. Now that you got that barrier off, here is the next step. Wrap your battery in aluminum foil and then put the cover on. Since aluminum foil doesn't conduct heat it will transfer it to the backing (since it doesn't actually touch the battery without the foil bridge) and dissipate the heat during use. This will keep your temperature down and for what it is worth, extend lifeline of the battery. I actually did this a long time ago (only in didn't sand the back, I soaked the cover in acetate solution and the rubber peeled right off) and it works fairly well, especially when using CPU for a duration like online music.
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cool, what made you put that cover into the solution? sounds much better cos it doesnt leave scratches. where do you get it?
if you allow heat to go into the cover, wont the phone feel much hotter in your hand? and wouldnt it affect the temperature of the lcd? my phone gets hot sometimes when charging, so i just remove the cover and leave the phone standing on the windowsill to prevent that.
Acetate is really nothing more than nail polish remover. I was getting my Google on a long time ago and came across it. Some kid with an XT did a YouTube video on it.
Since the heat is dissipating out the back, it doesn't effect the LCD on the front. The cover doesn't get too hot and actually the phone runs cooler bc the heat has somewhere to go.
Think of it like a wetsuit. You are totally dry and warm when fully covered, but open the neck a bit and your whole body gets cold. Phone is same way bc of the rubber coating. Remove that and the heat has somewhere to go and not stay trapped inside and cause possible damage to battery and CPU.
My father and I both have the XZ dual, and i noticed when placing it on a flat surface it does not lie completely flat. The top left corner near the led notification light moves a bit and isn't flat on the surface.
It's worse on my phone than my dads, but i do notice that it got worse with time. I also bend it to the other side every once in a while and it becomes flat again only to bend the other way again in a few days.
I do not usually put it in tight places other than my front pocket, and I'm a thin guy so don't have much force on the phone.
Well, that's a relief. I thought I was only me. Same here. Tried some times to bend it to be flat, was ok for a couple of days, then the same thing, top left corner, no flat.
We 're talking like 0,1 mm so not really a problem, does not bother me, it's an amazing phone, can't wait for XZ Premium though.
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Well, that's a relief. I thought I was only me. Same here. Tried some times to bend it to be flat, was ok for a couple of days, then the same thing, top left corner, no flat.
We 're talking like 0,1 mm so not really a problem, does not bother me, it's an amazing phone, can't wait for XZ Premium though.
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So its not just me! It's driving me crazy, when i type with the phone on a flat surface it makes some sounds and is really annoying!
I thought it was supposed to be a flat phone ?
Got mine a month ago. It is completely flat.
Bad side - camera lens are also flat and prone to scratches...
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this phone is totaly twistable and i noticed that after 10 days from when i bought it .i have put the phone on flat table and emediatly noticed its like a banana LMAO... it bends like no other phone for sure but the good side is it can go back to flat aswell ..phone is made mostly from plastic so we should expect that. i would recommend not carrying it in tight pockets it bends quickly... for a flagship device this should not happen but anyway if they continue this way i wont be buying Sony phones for sure.
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this phone is totaly twistable and i noticed that after 10 days from when i bought it .i have put the phone on flat table and emediatly noticed its like a banana LMAO... it bends like no other phone for sure but the good side is it can go back to flat aswell ..phone is made mostly from plastic so we should expect that. i would recommend not carrying it in tight pockets it bends quickly... for a flagship device this should not happen but anyway if they continue this way i wont be buying Sony phones for sure.
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I've had a lot of plastic phones, non bent this way and stayed bent!
The XZ premium is made of glass and metal, which is better in my opinion, even for heat issues. This phone heats up in my pocket while im carrying it, reaching body temperature 37c, after that it doesnt take much to heat it up to around 40 in which case it starts to throttle and stutter. The metal on the back looks reaaaalllyy thin, you can hear it when you tap the phone on the back.
I think my phone is also diagonally bent. Damn. This make me sad.
could u please take pic and send it here
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could u please take pic and send it here
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even if we put some pictures to prove it u wont be able to notice cuz it cant be seen by an eye u must put on the flat table and then ull notice.
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Well, that's a relief. I thought I was only me. Same here. Tried some times to bend it to be flat, was ok for a couple of days, then the same thing, top left corner, no flat.
We 're talking like 0,1 mm so not really a problem, does not bother me, it's an amazing phone, can't wait for XZ Premium though.
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A 10th of a mm is well within the manufacturing tolerances, it is quite hard to produce 100% flat surfaces unless you go full metal and even then it is not guaranteed. Try checking the flatness against a glass surface though. No issues here.
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A 10th of a mm is well within the manufacturing tolerances, it is quite hard to produce 100% flat surfaces unless you go full metal and even then it is not guaranteed. Try checking the flatness against a glass surface though. No issues here.
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On my phone it's way more than 1 mm, the phone moves while on a flat surface like glass.
This is my phone bent/twisted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TWqkMP7yZc
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This is my phone bent/twisted
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That's indeed quite severe, definitely out of spec. Was it like this since you bought it or just a recent discovery ?
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I've had a lot of plastic phones, non bent this way and stayed bent!
The XZ premium is made of glass and metal, which is better in my opinion, even for heat issues. This phone heats up in my pocket while im carrying it, reaching body temperature 37c, after that it doesnt take much to heat it up to around 40 in which case it starts to throttle and stutter. The metal on the back looks reaaaalllyy thin, you can hear it when you tap the phone on the back.
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Weird... Probably that's why yours got bent, overheating. Have you determined the cause ?
Bought on launch day in September, still perfectly flat.
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That's indeed quite severe, definitely out of spec. Was it like this since you bought it or just a recent discovery ?
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Weird... Probably that's why yours got bent, overheating. Have you determined the cause ?
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I actually haven't. Have no idea why it happened but it does seem to go back into bent position after adjusting, seems to me as a manufacturing fault or maybe I permanently bent it before without noticing (i dont think its that easy though). I don't remember how it was when I first bought it, but I started noticing it in January and my phone is about 7 months old right now.
I meant the overheating issue ( you mentioned in a previous post that it reaches 40 centigrades ), usually polymers are susceptible to dimensional changes as they are exposed to constant heat, hence the frame warping. Mine is as flat as it was the day I bought it (early Oct. 2016)
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I meant the overheating issue ( you mentioned in a previous post that it reaches 40 centigrades ), usually polymers are susceptible to dimensional changes as they are exposed to constant heat, hence the frame warping. Mine is as flat as it was the day I bought it (early Oct. 2016)
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I thought 40 c was normal, it always reaches that especially when doing some heavy tasks or when the weather is hot (I travel in the Middle East where its usually hot). But as from the video posted in an above reply, i think there's a weakness in the phone structure since mine is bent in exactly the same way, and other users also reported the same area.
Hi everyone,
The Essential company claims that the phone is very drop and scratch resistant thanks to the premium materials used in the phone, but sadly there are no official Essential drop tests available anywhere which is mainly due to all the problems Essential seems to be having with supplies and rolling out their first manufactured devices. There are also some reports surfacing from the very early adopters of the phone of some scuffs and scratches which never go beyond a mere mention.
I thought I would start this thread where people who have the phone can report about how the phone handles inadvertent drops and scratches and scuffs to the screen and the ceramic back. When posting, please also include a little bit of explanation as to how it happened and if possible a picture of the supposed damages to the phone.
Cheers.
dropped mine twice. 2 nicks in screen, but ceramic and titanium are fine.
This also came out today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9QxIvm7T90
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This also came out today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9QxIvm7T90
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I watched the video. Mous of 7 or better on the ceramic. The finish in the titanium can be damaged but noting like aluminum.
Forget about bending the phone. The phone is pretty tough. A case will protect th cosmetics.
https://www.cnet.com/videos/we-destroyed-the-essential-phone/
Seems like this will be a very durable device.
Ya for what its worth it is way way way better than any aluminum phone would do. This they got right but its the software and camera that hold it back
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Ya for what its worth it is way way way better than any aluminum phone would do. This they got right but its the software and camera that hold it back
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My only complaint is the camera software.
Other than that, I don't have any issues.
I would like a case, but only for cosmetics.
Know what really does it for me? Stock Android is a bit too stock also. I have gotten really used to how the pixel works and really like it with all it's slight tweaks to stock.
The cameras sensors are still too small to be on the level of the the other flagships too. Not only software. The Google camera does pretty well though
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Know what really does it for me? Stock Android is a bit too stock also. I have gotten really used to how the pixel works and really like it with all it's slight tweaks to stock.
The cameras sensors are still too small to be on the level of the the other flagships too. Not only software. The Google camera does pretty well though
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I use Nova, so Android is never really stock for me.
I use Nova Launcher because I can restore my device layout on any device.
As far as the camera, I'm not that concerned about the quality.
For me it's a case of not having a better camera and just getting the picture is important.
If I really wanted a good photo, I'd use one of my"real" cameras.
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I use Nova, so Android is never really stock for me.
I use Nova Launcher because I can restore my device layout on any device.
As far as the camera, I'm not that concerned about the quality.
For me it's a case of not having a better camera and just getting the picture is important.
If I really wanted a good photo, I'd use one of my"real" cameras.
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Happy you like it man! It's not for everyone for sure. I thought it was my dream phone but for me... It's just not their yet. The next one maybe and still super happy with what they were able to make!
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I've dropped this phone in 1 week more than I've dropped my Pixel XL in the past 3 months, just because of how slippery the little bugger is. No damage as a result of dropping it, though.
I do have some very light scratches on the ceramic back, from sliding across my desk or countertop at home, which I was *not* expecting. Both the top, by the mod indentation holes, and at the bottom left, too. I know they aren't from dropping it, as every time it's fallen, it's landed on its side or a corner, never flat on its back.
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I've dropped this phone in 1 week more than I've dropped my Pixel XL in the past 3 months, just because of how slippery the little bugger is. No damage as a result of dropping it, though.
I do have some very light scratches on the ceramic back, from sliding across my desk or countertop at home, which I was *not* expecting. Both the top, by the mod indentation holes, and at the bottom left, too. I know they aren't from dropping it, as every time it's fallen, it's landed on its side or a corner, never flat on its back.
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Stop being so rich with your diamond crusted desks and counter tops ?
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Stop being so rich with your diamond crusted desks and counter tops ?
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So I actually was checking out these:
https://egrips.com
Was tired of all my phones falling out if my pockets or slipping thru my hands...
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Happy you like it man! It's not for everyone for sure. I thought it was my dream phone but for me... It's just not their yet. The next one maybe and still super happy with what they were able to make!
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It is definitely not the phone for everyone. Build quality is for everyone.
There are some software shortcomings. I think they can sort those out.
I sold my 6P. SO I have the Essential for the long haul.
I have my replacement phone arriving today. I have gone through 2 glass screen protectors that due to the fit of them (not sticking to the edges) I have a nick in the glass at the top left and the screen is completely shattered on the bottom left, I can see gold metal under it and it has a crack running diagonally from left to right from the bottom left. I know I never dropped this phone from more than 2 feet high. I also have the scratches on the ceramic back near the mods ports. I've only used my 360 a couple of times. I'm definitely getting a case and moving to a plastic wet install screen protector.
I haven't dropped this phone yet, but I have several hairline scratches on the back ceramic. I guess I'm around a lot of minerals or dust particles that are > 8 hardness, which I find interesting.
Also on the glass I notice a patch of hairline scratches. I'm usually real careful about my phones (of course, everyone says this) but I think that's more of Corning's fault this time around. They're really small but knowing they're there bothers me. I wish I could buff them out. I'll be getting a screen protector I guess.
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So I actually was checking out these:
https://egrips.com
Was tired of all my phones falling out if my pockets or slipping thru my hands...
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Oh wow, those are cool
My back panel got scratched (micro scratches) that's so weird. Got ceramic Xiaomi mi2 and it was perfectly strong....not like this one.
I dropped mine screen facing the floor from about 4 feet. Screen survived, minor scratches. Not a single crack. I didn't expect the screen to survive.
-Nav
I have a step from main floor to foyer. Placed my phone near the edge and my dog pushed it down to tiles. Face down smashed!
2 line of scratches at the bottom bezel.
small dings on top left and bottom left corner display.
Sigh... thought it would survive...