[Q] Sooo laggy... - Note Edge Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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Love the look and feel of the phone. But, its really really slow and lags ALOT. I've factory reset three times now and no difference. Really frustrating because I wanna love this phone. No one seems to mention this in any reviews. I have the t-mobile version btw. Any ideas?

2wicky said:
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Love the look and feel of the phone. But, its really really slow and lags ALOT. I've factory reset three times now and no difference. Really frustrating because I wanna love this phone. No one seems to mention this in any reviews. I have the t-mobile version btw. Any ideas?
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Is it stock? Did you root it?
?Note Edge Powered by Android?

I find it has a little more lag than the S5 I had, not enough to return it. Maybe Lollipop might fix, or a small update from Samsung.
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I guess maybe root will make it better. Or wait for OTA update. Early review do mention the lag and wish official launch module can be better. Seems not the case here.

mmx6688 said:
I guess maybe root will make it better. Or wait for OTA update. Early review do mention the lag and wish official launch module can be better. Seems not the case here.
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i disabled as much sammy stuff as i could safely disable/freeze without throwing the phone into error mayhem.
i used titanium backup (root)

cvaria said:
i disabled as much sammy stuff as i could safely disable/freeze without throwing the phone into error mayhem.
i used titanium backup (root)
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So you root the phone and disable lots of staff, does it lag still?

Honestly the only lag i see is when clicking on recents button. It takes a sec or 2 to show. I am rooted, xposed, using Wanam, Gravity Box, and Blurred System Ui modules. Couple of my own mods and i removed all apks i do not use, froze sfinder in tibu.
Make sure you unlock development options by tapping on build# a few times in settings about, then lower all 3 animation values to .5 and make sure gpu rendering os UNCHECKED. Then go into svoice and click settings. In svoice settings UNCHECK open svoice via home key. Those 2 things should def help you a bit, and is pretty much as far as you can go without root. Also dl Greenify and hibernate all iser apps only. GL hope it gets better for you. If you need help with anything pm me.
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Ok I did that, will reboot and see if anything changes. Thanks for the tip
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Weord.
I don't get any lag. It's faster note 3 and just flows smoothly.
I did disable s voice, flipbook, lookout, and all tmobil crap tho.

I notice a bit of lag when in Facebook/Messenger and when I type really fast on the stock Samsung keyboard it seems to lag a bit and tries to catch up, resulting in typos.
How do you disable Flipboard?

T-mobile note 4 here, had a white note 4 about a week ago and in comparison, just as smooth if not smoother. Also sidenote, build quality is so much better, perfect screen and bezel levels, note 4 was uneven all the way around.

FromToronto said:
I notice a bit of lag when in Facebook/Messenger and when I type really fast on the stock Samsung keyboard it seems to lag a bit and tries to catch up, resulting in typos.
How do you disable Flipboard?
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Press and hold on the home screen
Then click home screen settings
There will be an option to remove it from home screen.
Also you can go into development options and make the animation shorts.
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I haven't noticed any lag to point of where it is annoying. You should just return the phone, and get something else. There are a lot of other phones to choose from, but none of them are like the Note Edge.

I am hating the metal. Same as my wife's Note 4. So much more prone to hairline scratches than the plastic used in previous Note 3!! WTF! I knew that going metal would suck except to satisfy the 'OMFG I NEED METAL" fans. ARGH!

Deliximus said:
I am hating the metal. Same as my wife's Note 4. So much more prone to hairline scratches than the plastic used in previous Note 3!! WTF! I knew that going metal would suck except to satisfy the 'OMFG I NEED METAL" fans. ARGH!
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If you don't like the build/metal, then just return the phone. No one is forcing you to use it.

Deliximus said:
I am hating the metal. Same as my wife's Note 4. So much more prone to hairline scratches than the plastic used in previous Note 3!! WTF! I knew that going metal would suck except to satisfy the 'OMFG I NEED METAL" fans. ARGH!
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To each there own.
The phone is very beautiful to me and steps above the note 3 and phones before it.
But if you don't like it then return it and get something else.
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xile6 said:
To each there own.
The phone is very beautiful to me and steps above the note 3 and phones before it.
But if you don't like it then return it and get something else.
Sent from my SM-N915T
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I expected this kind of response. I do like the look of the device and I'm keeping it because I love the software and spen. Note user stove n7000, not going to abandon something because of one flaw.

Deliximus said:
I expected this kind of response. I do like the look of the device and I'm keeping it because I love the software and spen. Note user stove n7000, not going to abandon something because of one flaw.
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The build quality is not flaw. The metal is there to add strength to design of the edge. I had a Note 3 and the Edge is better than it in every way.

I am liking the edge as well but too can attest to the lag after root. I have to mod if i can. But still worth it. Thanks CHAIN
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sshafranko said:
Is it stock? Did you root it?
?Note Edge Powered by Android?
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Stock, non rooted. It's weird any browser I use just lags. Slow response to any touches. My stock non rooted note 3 runs much smother side by side on all major browsers. Might try to maybe call up t-mobile for a replacement. Already disabled all unnecessary apps too.

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Joining Verizon Galaxy S III Family

So tomorrow is finally the day I get to upgrade my phone, my fascinate has treated me well these past two years, but its a bit dated now. So I've been following the forums and threads on the S III but I didn't see much people saying anything about specific hardware issues with the phone. When I go tomorrow to purchase my phone, is there any hardware specific stuff to look at to make sure my phone doesn't suffer from quality issues or run tests apps like display tester to test out the phone so I don't come out with a lemon and have to come back to exchange it? Any suggestions on making sure I don't get an lemon is much appreciated.
I wouldn't worry about it. Mine has been rock solid, even after a trip into the pool.
Enjoy your new phone. I'm sure you'll love it.
RyanW114 said:
So tomorrow is finally the day I get to upgrade my phone, my fascinate has treated me well these past two years, but its a bit dated now. So I've been following the forums and threads on the S III but I didn't see much people saying anything about specific hardware issues with the phone. When I go tomorrow to purchase my phone, is there any hardware specific stuff to look at to make sure my phone doesn't suffer from quality issues or run tests apps like display tester to test out the phone so I don't come out with a lemon and have to come back to exchange it? Any suggestions on making sure I don't get an lemon is much appreciated.
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As someone who had a launch fascinate, and upgraded to an s3 in July, let me add my opinion.
Gps. Though still not bulletproof and instantly locking like my wife's iphone 4s, it is way better than the stock fassy and even cm builds
Rom. Stock Rom is way less bloated and tw is way better with a smaller footprint.
Quality. About the same. I miss the 4 capacitive buttons actually. Still find myself hitting the android options key when trying to get to the launcher
I still have my fascinate in case this breaks and needs to be swapped. I do not miss it at all though. I could never find a perfect Rom for it. Something was always broke or buggy. I love my s3. Was going to sell it to get an iphone 5, but I am going to keep it now.
jtiger12 said:
As someone who had a launch fascinate, and upgraded to an s3 in July, let me add my opinion.
Gps. Though still not bulletproof and instantly locking like my wife's iphone 4s, it is way better than the stock fassy and even cm builds
Rom. Stock Rom is way less bloated and tw is way better with a smaller footprint.
Quality. About the same. I miss the 4 capacitive buttons actually. Still find myself hitting the android options key when trying to get to the launcher
I still have my fascinate in case this breaks and needs to be swapped. I do not miss it at all though. I could never find a perfect Rom for it. Something was always broke or buggy. I love my s3. Was going to sell it to get an iphone 5, but I am going to keep it now.
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Glad to have someone who has experience with the fascinate and gs3. I was concerned with the gps since the gps on the fascinate was pretty wonky. I guess the gs3 isn't much different in build quality with the thin plastic battery cover.
I previously owned a Fascinate as well, it was a great phone but outdated.
I was first worrying about the size being (alittle) too big, after few days it seems to be perfect size.
I do not like the physical home button and the external speakers location. The battery cover is a thin flexible plastic cover, atleast it will not shatter if dropped on hard surfaces.
And the most important of all, it is not an iphone. Unless you have a lemon or defected phone, you will love it.
Hyper_Warp said:
I previously owned a Fascinate as well, it was a great phone but outdated.
I was first worrying about the size being (alittle) too big, after few days it seems to be perfect size.
I do not like the physical home button and the external speakers location. The battery cover is a thin flexible plastic cover, atleast it will not shatter if dropped on hard surfaces.
And the most important of all, it is not an iphone. Unless you have a lemon or defected phone, you will love it.
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Yeah, I was worried about the size until I tried out a floor model and to me, felt fine, different from the 4 inches of course but nothing like the galaxy note. I think one major difference is what you mentioned, the physical home button, coming from 4 capacitive buttons to just 3 buttons with one of them a physical one, is pretty different.
A lot of us come from the fascinate. Me too. I find this phone has built nicely on the original fascinate. Adding things that needed along with the general hardware upgrade. Or now thinking on it, Samsung or Qualcomm should have given us a quad core but such as life.
Sent from my Verizon Galaxy S 3 running CM10
tonu42 said:
A lot of us come from the fascinate. Me too. I find this phone has built nicely on the original fascinate. Adding things that needed along with the general hardware upgrade. Or now thinking on it, Samsung or Qualcomm should have given us a quad core but such as life.
Sent from my Verizon Galaxy S 3 running CM10
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Yeah such is life, but having the dual core hold up to that quad core is nice.
On another note, didn't get my galaxy s3 today. So I have unlimited data on my plan and went though hell to try to find a way to keep the unlimited data and get the phone at the discount price. I might of done it, but won't know until verizon sends me my phone in the mail. Will know in a couple days.
It's a great choice ! You will be glad you took the upgrade ! I even enjoy the phone out of the box . This phone is going to be limitless .
RyanW114 said:
So tomorrow is finally the day I get to upgrade my phone, my fascinate has treated me well these past two years, but its a bit dated now. So I've been following the forums and threads on the S III but I didn't see much people saying anything about specific hardware issues with the phone. When I go tomorrow to purchase my phone, is there any hardware specific stuff to look at to make sure my phone doesn't suffer from quality issues or run tests apps like display tester to test out the phone so I don't come out with a lemon and have to come back to exchange it? Any suggestions on making sure I don't get an lemon is much appreciated.
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Let me be one of the first to say Welcome to the VZW GS3 Family! I may be on GS3 #3, but I think I finally got a keeper. The phone kicks my bionic's a** left and right, and I feel the GS3 is the best phone on the market atm.
As for me being on GS3 #3, I wouldent worry about build quality. First one had the screen gap issue (was back when the GS3 had 1 forum for all carriers), second one had dead pixels, but this current one is a keeper!
I am also new to the verizon fam. Came from sprint and am so happy with this gs3. So much to do that sometimes dont know what to do on the phone. What cool tricks do u suggest. I habeny been on this site in years.
To update everyone, I got my phone today and was able to activate it and keep unlimited! The sweet sweet smell of a new phone with unlimited 4G.
RyanW114 said:
To update everyone, I got my phone today and was able to activate it and keep unlimited! The sweet sweet smell of a new phone with unlimited 4G.
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Did you specifically request to keep your unlimited? I am just curious because I preordered mine and was able to keep it. I am not sure if they are still allowing anyone who has unlimited to transition to the S3 with unlimited or only people who specifically request it... anyone have more information??
The phone is fantastic. I've had no issues with it. Welcome to the family!
I love my GS3. It's a great phone and build quality is pretty good. But I did have a few things though most of them are minor. Do check them out within your return window:
1. My 1st GS3 had GPS issue. Took forever to lock and wouldn't stay locked. Got an exchange for that and the 2nd one is way better, still not perfect but totally usable.
2. My 1st GS3 came with a tiny scratch on the screen. I found it after using the phone for < 2hours. At first I thought I scratched it. Then after keeping the phone in the same pocket (completely naked) for 3 weeks, and then having the 2nd one for a month, no scratch whatsoever. Now I'm pretty sure my 1st one came with the scratch. It's a very tiny scratch can only be seen from certain angle. But it annoyed the hell out of me.
3. Both the 1st and 2nd GS3's back cover have a squeaky spot. The 1st one right behind the volume rocker, the 2nd one behind the home button. Not the worst problem but can get annoying.
I saw other people report screen problem (dead pixel) so running a screen test is probably not a bad idea.
Dirty13ear said:
Did you specifically request to keep your unlimited? I am just curious because I preordered mine and was able to keep it. I am not sure if they are still allowing anyone who has unlimited to transition to the S3 with unlimited or only people who specifically request it... anyone have more information??
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As far as I know if you take a discounted price on a phone, you have to take a share everything plan. Op how did you keep your unlimited?
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Dirty13ear said:
Did you specifically request to keep your unlimited? I am just curious because I preordered mine and was able to keep it. I am not sure if they are still allowing anyone who has unlimited to transition to the S3 with unlimited or only people who specifically request it... anyone have more information??
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I didn't, after June 28th you can't request to keep it. See below how I did it.
moun7ain said:
The phone is fantastic. I've had no issues with it. Welcome to the family!
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Thanks!
simollie said:
I love my GS3. It's a great phone and build quality is pretty good. But I did have a few things though most of them are minor. Do check them out within your return window:
1. My 1st GS3 had GPS issue. Took forever to lock and wouldn't stay locked. Got an exchange for that and the 2nd one is way better, still not perfect but totally usable.
2. My 1st GS3 came with a tiny scratch on the screen. I found it after using the phone for < 2hours. At first I thought I scratched it. Then after keeping the phone in the same pocket (completely naked) for 3 weeks, and then having the 2nd one for a month, no scratch whatsoever. Now I'm pretty sure my 1st one came with the scratch. It's a very tiny scratch can only be seen from certain angle. But it annoyed the hell out of me.
3. Both the 1st and 2nd GS3's back cover have a squeaky spot. The 1st one right behind the volume rocker, the 2nd one behind the home button. Not the worst problem but can get annoying.
I saw other people report screen problem (dead pixel) so running a screen test is probably not a bad idea.
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I was checking for everything, can you tell me more about the back cover squeaky spot, been squeezing it, haven't had any squeaky spots, I assume that means I don't have that problem.
Vorfidus said:
As far as I know if you take a discounted price on a phone, you have to take a share everything plan. Op how did you keep your unlimited?
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I did a cross upgrade, I was able to transfer my upgrade to a different phone and then have that line upgrade to the s3. When it came, I just esn swap (transferred the phone to my line). Note this only works with ordering from the website. At the store and anywhere else they will force you to switch. Trust me, I banged heads with a lot of people over this.
Vorfidus said:
As far as I know if you take a discounted price on a phone, you have to take a share everything plan. Op how did you keep your unlimited?
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When I got mine at full price they made me switch before they would activate it but I'm fine with it.
RyanW114 said:
I did a cross upgrade, I was able to transfer my upgrade to a different phone and then have that line upgrade to the s3. When it came, I just esn swap (transferred the phone to my line). Note this only works with ordering from the website. At the store and anywhere else they will force you to switch. Trust me, I banged heads with a lot of people over this.
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Ahhh that makes sense then. I was pretty sure they weren't allowing people to do that anymore no matter what but the way you went about it seems to be a few and far between sort of thing. Nice work on keeping that unlimited data though. props
RyanW114 said:
Glad to have someone who has experience with the fascinate and gs3. I was concerned with the gps since the gps on the fascinate was pretty wonky. I guess the gs3 isn't much different in build quality with the thin plastic battery cover.
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It feels solid to me. Its a thin cover but its all packed together in that slim body pretty tightly so it doesn't feel cheap (at least not to me). You can't tell its a thin plastic back unless you remove it as it doesn't move or give at all when it is on the phone. I think the fascinate felt worse
The GPS is no problem at all on the S3 but I never had issues with it on my fascinate either although I know a lot of people did.

Verizon S5 Thoughts/Feedback Thread

After having mine now for an hour and using it....the fingerprint scanner doesn't work as good as I would like it. My thumb is at an angle when holding the phone. I added it in using that angle, but it wants you to come straight down, which means I have to change the way i hold it to use it and have it register.
Verizon added so much bloat it's crazy!
the heart rate monitor. absolutely useless to over 90% of the consumers.... maybe even 95%
Seems they screwed up adding all the extra features that as mentioned here, a lot probably will not use. Finger print scanners are prone to screw up and the heart rate sensor seems frilly for most. The cost of this "customer will like it" fluff is a bigger device. The device IMO is now too big in relation to the display and awkward with one hand for most people. The S4 was near borderline already.
Samsung truly has a bloat and new feature fetish. They seem to think the combination appeals more to customers. For the majority it seems No, but the minority is perhaps Yes. Catch is everyone gets stuck with a bigger, bloat ridden device- like it or not if want the S5.
The funny thing is the S5 now has near the same overall size of my S4 with a bigger battery.
M8 is also too big IMO, so the S5 is not alone in this regard.
I actually found the chrome trim be terrible looking, and despite my plans not to use a case, had to get a thin black bumper to cover it. There is no doubt the M8 looks better, and is very comfortable to hold. I had to have the S5 because the screen just seemed much better, and part of it isn't wasted by the nav bar like on the M8.
I haven't had enough time to play with all of the features yet, however the screen has been nothing but impressive so far. I don't like the new settings so far, but that's probably because I'm just not used to it.
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rushless said:
M8 is also too big IMO, so the S5 is not alone in this regard.
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My biggest beef with the M8 was that the speakers make the phone so much bigger than it needs to be. If you hold the S5 and the M8 next to eachother there is about half an inch of wasted space, especially if you factor in the navbar. For people that use the speakers, it might be worth it, but I would not.
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I actually found the chrome trim be terrible looking, and despite my plans not to use a case, had to get a thin black bumper to cover it. There is no doubt the M8 looks better, and is very comfortable to hold. I had to have the S5 because the screen just seemed much better, and part of it isn't wasted by the nav bar like on the M8.
I haven't had enough time to play with all of the features yet, however the screen has been nothing but impressive so far. I don't like the new settings so far, but that's probably because I'm just not used to it.
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My biggest beef with the M8 was that the speakers make the phone so much bigger than it needs to be. If you hold the S5 and the M8 next to eachother there is about half an inch of wasted space, especially if you factor in the navbar. For people that use the speakers, it might be worth it, but I would not.
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How is the screen in direct sunlight? I saw a review comparing it with others at max brightness which showed not much improvement. I think only Auto-Brightness will really max out the screen's brightness and I'm not sure if they manually maxed it out or it was it on auto.
And are you using it on the default mode or did you change it to cinematic?
i love the fingerprint scanner..works perfectly for my thumb for 1 handed use..
only thing i'm not liking right now is it seems to have that same body shift issue my white S3 had, that my S4 didn't..like as if the battery isn't big enough for the cavity, so it moves and makes the body feel like its twisting so it makes some lil snappy creak noises. kinda sucks, but oh well. maybe the battery just isn't big enough for the spot,w ho knows.
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How is the screen in direct sunlight? I saw a review comparing it with others at max brightness which showed not much improvement. I think only Auto-Brightness will really max out the screen's brightness and I'm not sure if they manually maxed it out or it was it on auto.
And are you using it on the default mode or did you change it to cinematic?
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Granted I only spent about 5 minutes with it outside so far, but the difference was HUGE from my S3 (which I really struggled with in the sun). I did not mess with any display settings yet, so it was all default. I got it on lunch and I'm working, so I've only been able to play with it here and there.
The display continues to be impressive, which is the main reason I wanted it. I can't speak to the difference between the s4-5, but between the 3 and 5 its night and day.
I'm excited to get it home and drop in a sink of water.
I like the phone. Definitely has a lot of features that I won't use but that's a Galaxy device. If we're on XDA, we know what we're getting into. The bigger size to achieve the IP67 certification is somewhat annoying but again, nothing unexpected and a nice feature. One that I'm sure will save more than a few people. So, despite the usually Galaxy "extras", I'm enjoying it. I will have to get a replacement as there is a permanent " smudge " on the display. Almost as if there's a coating for the IP67 certification and that coating wasn't applied correctly. No biggie. As long as VZW cooperates lol.
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Not going to lie I hate this phone, they dropped the ball in gs5, I am not going to use it until the gracious devs get root and unlocked bootloader
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damn..i just took some outdoors pics and they came out terrible. like, awful.
full light shots outdoors in the sun, blacks were coming out smudgy and blotchy and not good at all..i'm going to be super pissed if this camera turns out to be worse than my G2..that's the whole damn reason why i got this phone.
jayochs said:
damn..i just took some outdoors pics and they came out terrible. like, awful.
full light shots outdoors in the sun, blacks were coming out smudgy and blotchy and not good at all..i'm going to be super pissed if this camera turns out to be worse than my G2..that's the whole damn reason why i got this phone.
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Let's see these pics. No way worse than G2.
Not liking the recent apps button. Came from an s3 and I'm used to tapping for the menu to come up. Now it's needs a long press. If I could just swap the long and short press functions I would pretty happy. Only had it since 10am.
Screen is definitely better than the s3. Using it to navigate on the dash on a bright sunny made it very apparent. S3 looked dark and hard to see, the s5 looked way better and easy to see.
The chrome around this all black is not to my taste, but I'm hoping my new uag case will cover it.
jayochs said:
damn..i just took some outdoors pics and they came out terrible. like, awful.
full light shots outdoors in the sun, blacks were coming out smudgy and blotchy and not good at all..i'm going to be super pissed if this camera turns out to be worse than my G2..that's the whole damn reason why i got this phone.
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You might find this interesting. I've spent the afternoon confirming these results.
http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/sm...rs.com&subid=cfcd208495d565ef66e7dff9f98764da
Edit: that is a huge link!
cRookeD Nexus 5
Crooke356 said:
You might find this interesting. I've spent the afternoon confirming these results.
http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/sm...rs.com&subid=cfcd208495d565ef66e7dff9f98764da
Edit: that is a huge link!
cRookeD Nexus 5
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Lol yeah its huge. Lol.
So pretty much great camera with some bad moments?
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I just took this in my garage...cam is fine for me.
greatnesstx said:
Not going to lie I hate this phone, they dropped the ball in gs5, I am not going to use it until the gracious devs get root and unlocked bootloader
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If you hate it....not sure what you were expecting over what you saw on the S4.
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Lol yeah its huge. Lol.
So pretty much great camera with some bad moments?
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Yea. From all the devices I've ever owned, and it's a lot, that seems to be the case. Except for iPhone. I've never owned one but it's apparently perfect
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I just dropped mine a sink full of water. Still kicking. I recorded the drop.
I just realized that the screen lights up every time I get a text. Stays on for a few secs, but I cannot change that.
Light Manager works......w/out root.

Doo you recommend this phone?

Thinking of buying this phone since its cheaper now and has all up to date features from samsung
Do you recommend it? Also how do you protect your screen? And Have you ever dropped it?
I am looking forward to the answer as well for myself. I've been using note 1 up until now and this is just a plan either note 4 or note edge and would love to her suggestions
I really like the note edge because its unique but at same time
It does not have known screen protectors nor i have seen any one recommend a case for it and i could not find any drop tests for it..
As for note 4 it lacks edge features of note edge but at same time you can guarntee that it will never have of scratch or crack thanks for the so many screen protectors available for it.
Could some one pls give me their opinions for the edge and if screen protector will protect it?
m coming off of the Note II and moving on to the Edge... the phone seems super powerful but i havent tested it yet... I have an unlocked AT&T and Im actually coming on here to rom it with something that does not give me 4 gigs of garbage apps that I cant use or uninstall!...
Screen wise, I barely ever got a scratch on the screen of my note 2... so Im thinking this screen will be just as reliable... but I do want to get a decent case for it... the one i have is used so it looks like the previous user didnt use a case and it has a bunch of dings on the edge that doesnt have a screen... its not too noticeable but it does show that the phone tends to fall on that side the most.
I can honestly say that the internet on this phone is kinda crappy... Im not sure if its the Rom or maybe a faulty antena.. after I flash it with a bare bone Rom I'll test it out and let you guys know... if its the antena i will be very upset.
Haha, I've actually been waiting for someone to ask these questions and I will tell you my experience...... The story starts with a Note 4. I bought one a while back because it was basically the best phone to date. I "liked" the Note 4, but I have AT&T and after having it for a while, I found myself online daily to see if anyone had rooted it yet so I could clean it up (a lot). That day never came. So I typed "Note 4 vs" in Google to see what people were comparing it to. I'll keep the story short, but some of you may appreciate the extra details. Sooo.... went for the Nexus 6, basically everything the Note was, minus everything the Note was, lol. Fell in love with the Nexus. Loved the assortment of roms and freedom to roam. But the camera sucks. It was/is one of my favorite phones, and I've owned them all. Well, I sold my Nexus because prices are dropping like a rock on them. Which brings us to...
Note edge.
Bottom line, I love the phone. I've used an S6 edge (which has faster hardware) but the actual functionality of the edge on the Note blow the S6 edge out of the water. I bought the T-Mobile edge because if I decided to keep it, I wanted to root it. Well, I used it for a couple days and I was sold. Even before rooting, I already loved it. Sold the Nexus 6 (still an awesome phone). Bottom line in my opinion, for phones in this class, the Note edge is awesome. I know there are 50 other opinions out there, but I wanted to not only share my opinion, but the story behind it. Not to mention expandable storage and removable battery.
Screen protectors: I've only used one, and surprisingly I am pretty happy with it. Considering I think the only ones they can make for an edge are TPU, I thought there was no hope because of the texture of TPU. I thought the pen would suffer the most. I bought the Skinomi off of Amazon, I swear I spent an hour reading and trying to decide. It's a wet apply, which I don't mind at all, and it was better than I anticipated. Smoother than I was expecting, and pen was smooth on it, too. I took it off because I had one little bubble and re-applied it, well it doesn't really work the second time. So they are sending me a new one free. So it has been about 4 or 5 days with no screen protector and I'm honestly thinking about not putting the new one on. Nothing beats the smooth feel of the glass...... But, as we all know, it only takes that one single time to have that scratch stare back at you forever. Choose wisely.
So there's my story.
Oh, I would also suggest finding one with 4.4.4 and not 5. Take my word for it, or do some research. I'm staying on 4.4.4 and am happy as can be.
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Haha, I've actually been waiting for someone to ask these questions and I will tell you my experience...... The story starts with a Note 4. I bought one a while back because it was basically the best phone to date. I "liked" the Note 4, but I have AT&T and after having it for a while, I found myself online daily to see if anyone had rooted it yet so I could clean it up (a lot). That day never came. So I typed "Note 4 vs" in Google to see what people were comparing it to. I'll keep the story short, but some of you may appreciate the extra details. Sooo.... went for the Nexus 6, basically everything the Note was, minus everything the Note was, lol. Fell in love with the Nexus. Loved the assortment of roms and freedom to roam. But the camera sucks. It was/is one of my favorite phones, and I've owned them all. Well, I sold my Nexus because prices are dropping like a rock on them. Which brings us to...
Note edge.
Bottom line, I love the phone. I've used an S6 edge (which has faster hardware) but the actual functionality of the edge on the Note blow the S6 edge out of the water. I bought the T-Mobile edge because if I decided to keep it, I wanted to root it. Well, I used it for a couple days and I was sold. Even before rooting, I already loved it. Sold the Nexus 6 (still an awesome phone). Bottom line in my opinion, for phones in this class, the Note edge is awesome. I know there are 50 other opinions out there, but I wanted to not only share my opinion, but the story behind it. Not to mention expandable storage and removable battery.
Screen protectors: I've only used one, and surprisingly I am pretty happy with it. Considering I think the only ones they can make for an edge are TPU, I thought there was no hope because of the texture of TPU. I thought the pen would suffer the most. I bought the Skinomi off of Amazon, I swear I spent an hour reading and trying to decide. It's a wet apply, which I don't mind at all, and it was better than I anticipated. Smoother than I was expecting, and pen was smooth on it, too. I took it off because I had one little bubble and re-applied it, well it doesn't really work the second time. So they are sending me a new one free. So it has been about 4 or 5 days with no screen protector and I'm honestly thinking about not putting the new one on. Nothing beats the smooth feel of the glass...... But, as we all know, it only takes that one single time to have that scratch stare back at you forever. Choose wisely.
So there's my story.
Oh, I would also suggest finding one with 4.4.4 and not 5. Take my word for it, or do some research. I'm staying on 4.4.4 and am happy as can be.
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Yeah. Reason i prefer note edge to all 2015 phones. That it combines the s pen with edge and finger print features and 2k display. Which means lots of features compared to the featurless s6. Not to mention sd card slot and removable battery could be a plus.
I see it as a future proof phone.
However i would never leave it without screen protector and i advice you not to..
I removed both the case and screen protector of My note 3 and one day fell on the air port and had a big scratch in the middle.
No matter how much it distorts screen quality its always worth it at least until you get better protector.
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Well, my story is that I fell in love with the leather note series. I started with the note 2, which was ergonomically a better phone in any way(rounded edges). Note 3 was awesome, then the note 4 which I like; but the rom support isn't that great in my opinion.
Now the edge has a lower amount of xda nerds, but yet better roms(I can't go without Multi DPI roms anymore).
The Edge just adds extra features the Note 4 doesn't have, nothing more really. For the casing; I like the genuine samsung flip covers, so I bought one for my edge aswell. I don't have it yet, but I guess it will be as awesome as all other note flip cases ;D
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Naderxd said:
I really like the note edge because its unique but at same time
It does not have known screen protectors nor i have seen any one recommend a case for it and i could not find any drop tests for it..
As for note 4 it lacks edge features of note edge but at same time you can guarntee that it will never have of scratch or crack thanks for the so many screen protectors available for it.
Could some one pls give me their opinions for the edge and if screen protector will protect it?
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I have the Healing shield protector on mine and it is curved to fit the screen. www.healingshield.co.kr
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Sammo201 said:
m coming off of the Note II and moving on to the Edge... the phone seems super powerful but i havent tested it yet... I have an unlocked AT&T and Im actually coming on here to rom it with something that does not give me 4 gigs of garbage apps that I cant use or uninstall!...
Screen wise, I barely ever got a scratch on the screen of my note 2... so Im thinking this screen will be just as reliable... but I do want to get a decent case for it... the one i have is used so it looks like the previous user didnt use a case and it has a bunch of dings on the edge that doesnt have a screen... its not too noticeable but it does show that the phone tends to fall on that side the most.
I can honestly say that the internet on this phone is kinda crappy... Im not sure if its the Rom or maybe a faulty antena.. after I flash it with a bare bone Rom I'll test it out and let you guys know... if its the antena i will be very upset.
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I have the HANTON Samsung Galaxy Note Edge Card Pocket Case Front Full Cover Flip Classic from ebay and it covers the whole screen including the edge.
I love my Note Edge. At first, I was gonna get the Note 4 but I knew that I would've regretted it later because of the uniqueness of the Edge. I had played with the iPhone 6 Plus and the S6 Edge but, I don't really like iPhones and the edge of the S6 seemed like a gimmick to me. Since I had read that the Note Edge was pretty much a Note 4 with a second, independent screen, I went for it despite of the high price. I also bought the
ArmorSuit MilitaryShield - Samsung Galaxy Note Edge Screen Protector and the Verus Thor case.
I couldn't be happier with my purchase. The phone has all the features of the Note 4 plus all the features of an actual, super-useful, functional edge screen. I flashed a new ROM as soon as I got it, I keep installing apps, and the phone is as good as new. It also looks amazing and it doesn't have a scratch on it. If you like features, you'll love the Edge Note.
In my opinion the Note Edge is the best piece of Android hardware on the market today....with one of the worst software implementations. Especially the ATT version is a bloated lag ridden touchwiz mess that, due to the locked bootloader, cannot be fixed. The stock 4.4 version is just "ok" while the 5.0.1 "upgrade" is almost unusable by normal android standards. There are some great ROMS already out for this great piece of hardware, but if your unwilling/unable to flash one or uncomfortable with Xposed, I would steer towards something else that doesnt use Touchwiz.
I love mine.
It's got to be the nicest phone I've ever laid hands on.
Buy it.
Root it.
Get rid of all the garbage.
It seems like everyone and their brother has a factory installed app' on this thing.
BTW,stick with KitKat.
Apparently the new ROM has a myriad of headaches with it.
It kind of reminds of Windows.
The more they "refine" it,the more bloated it gets.
My RAM usage is around 600 MB with anti virus and a couple more apps' on board.
It works very nicely.
yes, 1000%. just do not get the lollipop upgrade if you can avoid it.
I don't know what issues you guys get with 5.0.1, it's working fine on my n915g.
maybe you're lucky
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I don't know what issues you guys get with 5.0.1, it's working fine on my n915g.
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calls can't be answered from the edge anymore, text messages flash across the top of the screen, not the edge like it should, there is no music player on the lock screen anymore and the battery life sucks on 5.0.1. There's more, but these are the easiest to identify. If you are fine with that or have not experienced these crippling setbacks of 5.0.1. then good for you. As for me, reverting back, gave me all the features that made this my top phone of the past 10 years.
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calls can't be answered from the edge anymore, text messages flash across the top of the screen, not the edge like it should, there is no music player on the lock screen anymore and the battery life sucks on 5.0.1. There's more, but these are the easiest to identify. If you are fine with that or have not experienced these crippling setbacks of 5.0.1. then good for you. As for me, reverting back, gave me all the features that made this my top phone of the past 10 years.
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I'm on 5.0.1 and haven't lost any of those. Just the camera button on the edge and trusted devices.
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I'm on 5.0.1 and haven't lost any of those. Just the camera button on the edge and trusted devices.
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Mine is fine in all regards too, only complaint is the camera button has moved, and with the flip cover the screen doesn't turn off when the edge screen is active and you are currently in the messaging or gallery apps
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calls can't be answered from the edge anymore, text messages flash across the top of the screen, not the edge like it should, there is no music player on the lock screen anymore and the battery life sucks on 5.0.1. There's more, but these are the easiest to identify. If you are fine with that or have not experienced these crippling setbacks of 5.0.1. then good for you. As for me, reverting back, gave me all the features that made this my top phone of the past 10 years.
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That's strange, I've never had any of those issues.
Samsung phones are good but the Hang up a lot
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I am looking forward to the answer as well for myself. I've been using note 1 up until now and this is just a plan either note 4 or note edge and would love to her suggestions
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Samsung Phones are goood but they Hang while after some time, I will recommend HTC
My Edge answers calls too. ...Im running TekXodus Rom...pretty sweet...lots of customizations...but the best of stock too
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That's strange, I've never had any of those issues.
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millab said:
Mine is fine in all regards too, only complaint is the camera button has moved, and with the flip cover the screen doesn't turn off when the edge screen is active and you are currently in the messaging or gallery apps
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I'm on 5.0.1 and haven't lost any of those. Just the camera button on the edge and trusted devices.
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it must have just been my phone because ALL of those things disappeared with 5.0.1. they are back now and I am happy.

Note Edge or Note 4? Looking for input

Hi guys, I'm looking for input on my next phone. I've read through the edge vs note 4 threads but most are almost a year old so I'm looking for some updated info.
I currently have an S4 and have narrowed down my future options to the Edge and Note 4. I like the idea of having the edge screen but wondering if it's actually useful. Some comments in the old threads mentioned the lack of development for the Edge. Is that still true? I don't do anything crazy with my S4...It's rooted and I really like xposed and wanam. I haven't done ROMs or anything like that.
I guess my main question boils down to...can I root an Edge and have xposed? Is there anything else I should know about or take into account when evaluating the two phone options?
Thanks!
Note Edge is unique, one of a kind phone. It is the first and also the last of its own product line. Edge screen is very useful. The edge on s6 edge and s6 edge+ are gimmick. Retarded Media killed Note Edge. I'm so mad about that.
Development for Note Edge is basically dead. But i have no issue using my Note Edge without root or any modification.
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But root works perfect on this device, so does exposed. If you're looking for roms the note 4 is better. But if you can live with stock TW I would choose Edge.
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Sounds like the Edge can do everything I would need it to. Thanks for the help, guys!
If anyone else has input, I'd love to hear it.
Almost forgot, I must emphasize that I'm talking about root on F/FY device. Other versions I don't know really. Maybe someone else does?
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I have Sprint, which might be the P model.
Some things I've read say that the fingerprint scanner isn't very good/accurate on either the Edge or Note 4. What has your experience been? I don't know much about that feature but one proposed solution I read said to fill multiple fingerprint slots (there are 5?) with the same finger and that greatly improves the accuracy.
pholt33 said:
I have Sprint, which might be the P model.
Some things I've read say that the fingerprint scanner isn't very good/accurate on either the Edge or Note 4. What has your experience been? I don't know much about that feature but one proposed solution I read said to fill multiple fingerprint slots (there are 5?) with the same finger and that greatly improves the accuracy.
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I swear a lot of people these days are retarded. I love my Note Edge and I am super pissed the Media killed it. Anyways the finger print scanner works wonders for me. I actually prefer the slide method instead of pressing and holding. It just feels faster.
I saved my right and left middle finger, and my right and left thumbs and it works perfectly. You just need a slow but steady swipe. Its perfect. Seriously i am bamboozled by how much this phone din't take off but I am happy I own one.
Even when I am walking around campus and girls see it, they are all impressed by what the Edge Screen can do. If you a power user, the Note Edge is the last true great phone made for us. I am using the T Mobile version on MetroPCS
I have 915g note edge and i am very happy with it. I have rooted it and have installed xposed alongwith the custom rom. I am on 5.1.1. The casing and covers for note edge are less as compared to note 4
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tabish84 said:
I have 915g note edge and i am very happy with it. I have rooted it and have installed xposed alongwith the custom rom. I am on 5.1.1. The casing and covers for note edge are less as compared to note 4
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Does 5.1.1 bring back the camera button on the Edge Screen or is it still on the main window as it was on 5.0.1. Also are notifications back to only being on the Edge Screen or are the still popping up?
After getting feedback from you guys as well as Note 4 owners, I decided to buy the Edge. It should be here tomorrow - I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas. Is it tomorrow yet?!
After doing more reading, I will likely get: a spare TrendOn battery with charger, maybe a screen protector (possibly KlearKare), and a case or bumper. Case selection seems pretty limited. I use a Caseology (TPU?) on my S4 and like that it's not bulky, has moderate texture, and wasn't expensive. Are theresimilar options for the Edge? Depending on what's available, I've also thought about getting a case like that and then cutting out most of the back, leaving the leather back exposed while protecting the edges.
Not sure about cases. I only use my OEM Flip Cover. Its perfect. Also the phone with the cover makes it easy to kung fu grip the phone really strongly. Have yet to drop the phone
Alarmmy said:
Note Edge is unique, one of a kind phone. It is the first and also the last of its own product line. Edge screen is very useful. The edge on s6 edge and s6 edge+ are gimmick. Retarded Media killed Note Edge. I'm so mad about that.
Development for Note Edge is basically dead. But i have no issue using my Note Edge without root or any modification.
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I agree. ..
This is the best phone ever made cos of the edge and it won't have a successor!!!!!!!!!!
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edo101 said:
I swear a lot of people these days are retarded. I love my Note Edge and I am super pissed the Media killed it. Anyways the finger print scanner works wonders for me. I actually prefer the slide method instead of pressing and holding. It just feels faster.
I saved my right and left middle finger, and my right and left thumbs and it works perfectly. You just need a slow but steady swipe. Its perfect. Seriously i am bamboozled by how much this phone din't take off but I am happy I own one.
Even when I am walking around campus and girls see it, they are all impressed by what the Edge Screen can do. If you a power user, the Note Edge is the last true great phone made for us. I am using the T Mobile version on MetroPCS
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I agree.
On the swipe... set it to swipe up. Much easier.
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pholt33 said:
After getting feedback from you guys as well as Note 4 owners, I decided to buy the Edge. It should be here tomorrow - I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas. Is it tomorrow yet?!
After doing more reading, I will likely get: a spare TrendOn battery with charger, maybe a screen protector (possibly KlearKare), and a case or bumper. Case selection seems pretty limited. I use a Caseology (TPU?) on my S4 and like that it's not bulky, has moderate texture, and wasn't expensive. Are theresimilar options for the Edge? Depending on what's available, I've also thought about getting a case like that and then cutting out most of the back, leaving the leather back exposed while protecting the edges.
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Best case is leather flip. ...
Get Note Edge. The International version preferably.
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Get Note Edge. The International version preferably.
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Yes SM-N915F or SM-N915FY
While I do love my edge, do be aware that compare to note 4 owners, you will be treated with unbound discrimination . Unfairly, cool case companies refused to make cases for this phone. Nobody wants to work on root for it. Gear vr doesn't fit. Glass screen protectors failed to be produced. Extended battery cases choices are very slim. You will be worst that a second class citizen. At least that's how I feel since I got this phone. Anyway, rant over.
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same here. i actually have the Note 4 and the Note Edge. i loved my Note 4 with a passion but i appreciated the edge display and capabilities. it was gimmicky but it did have a use-- notifications without unlocking the phone, the marquee feel to it, and shortcuts to some other key functions of the phone right there without having to swipe and search my app drawer. the only drawback that I'm experiencing is that the battery life seemed to be killed with the 5.0.1 update, (not to mention i have the Verizon variant, so it took FOREVER just to even get THAT much.) i'm considering going back to my Note 4 just for this reason, but i'm searching the forums to see if there's any kind of resolution or suggestions for it. without root and any other major development for the phone, i'm kind of stuck. but i hope that you enjoy yours.
I found a solution to the battery problem.I downgraded back to KitKat from 5.0.1, thats after doing everything I can to solve the battery issues with Lollipop even with a fresh install of stock. I think il be staying for awhile with this. By the way i have SM-N915G
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Yeah Kit Kat will always be the only home for the Note Edge proper. Short of finding custom ROMS. Its depressing how the only phone to actually try something different and Do it pretty damn well will never ever get a sequel. This phone wows everyone I show to it. The positive response I've gotten from Apple users that wanted to buy it alone tells me that the public just was never given a chance to try it.
Also I wish there was a harder version of the Flip Case. I dropped my phone on concrete and it got a scratch and now that crack keeps spreading lol. Its still barely noticeable with normal use. But its noticeable when the screen is off. Pissed of at lack of support will never ever let this phone go until something more revolutionary comes out. Its just that damn good. Power use the edge screen like no other
True, i was about to trade my edge for Note 4. For battery,accessories, & more choices of custom ROMs but after being satisfied with KiTKat i think il hold on to this. I actually wanted to try Nexus 6P.I'll see in the future.Note 5 without sd card slot really turned me off its so difficult to say goodbye to the note series.
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True, i was about to trade my edge for Note 4. For battery,accessories, & more choices of custom ROMs but after being satisfied with KiTKat i think il hold on to this. I actually wanted to try Nexus 6P.I'll see in the future.Note 5 without sd card slot really turned me off its so difficult to say goodbye to the note series.
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For me I can't. I have bad ADD so I need to have a phone that will allow me to jot down things on the fly. The Edge was the perferct answer. Cannot ever see myself use another phone without a stylus.
I just really really really really hope another manufacturer or Samsung themselves go back to being more revolutionary and market well to make another Edge phone with actually functionality. If they don't, I'l;l buy two more Note Edge when they get cheaper so I can have backups. Thats how much I love this phone. I use my phone like a computer, especially because I am in school
Actually, today, I got a date just by showing this girl I met at a school diner my phone. I used the phone as a social thing too. Samsung needs to start marketing their stuff better

S8 plus is a total piece of ****

This thing sucks doesn't do half as good as my note 5. And every update is glitchy what a piece of ****. After 3 months of this tiny ****box I'm going back to my note 5
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Are you okay?
Ok. You can mail it to me. I'll take it.
Take a breather Man...
djxn40 said:
This thing sucks doesn't do half as good as my note 5. And every update is glitchy what a piece of ****. After 3 months of this tiny ****box I'm going back to my note 5
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Cool story bro
car.los.7399 said:
Cool story bro
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where are the dragons? haha
Lol someones mad...after 3 months of use I'm still Loving it
Cool story
I couldn't agree more. In comparison to my Note 5 this thing is not as good....
Screen is wayyyyy too narrow on my S8+. Glitches and slow downs after the first few days. Also many tiny annoying bugs. You'd think that after the phone being out for a while they'd fix all of the issues.
moustafasadek11 said:
I couldn't agree more. In comparison to my Note 5 this thing is not as good....
Screen is wayyyyy too narrow on my S8+. Glitches and slow downs after the first few days. Also many tiny annoying bugs. You'd think that after the phone being out for a while they'd fix all of the issues.
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I have to wonder myself how you guys use your mobiles. Not ONE of my mobiles since the iPhone 3GS
hade any "slowdowns"! How? Very simpel. I only install apps without adds. I only install apps I really use. I dont root. I always install latest updates and watch what sites I visit with the browser. And last but not least I setup each mobile as new. I never use smartswitch or backups. When u root please be sure you know exactly what you do, else SLOWDOWNS!
Curved screen is a huge fail. I was afraid it would be fragile, and sure enough, broke on the curved edge. Since samsung stopped making flat screens my next phone will not be a super fragile samsung again.
You guys bashing sound kind of ridiculous. Saying a two-generations old phone isn't as good as the current one just seems odd. I had the Note5, Note7, S7e, and now a S8+. The S8+ is spectacular and I've had no issues with it whatsoever except for Bixby which was supposed to be a key feature being MIA. If you're having individual issues that's fine but to ridicule the phone because of whatever you're going through just makes you seem out of sync.
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Curved screen is a huge fail. I was afraid it would be fragile, and sure enough, broke on the curved edge. Since samsung stopped making flat screens my next phone will not be a super fragile samsung again.
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It is funny how any phone you buy, there is a forum full of complaints; and within those complaints there are several who broke their phone, and blame the device as being "fragile".
Buy a case. If you are super prone to accidents, get insurance for the device. Stop blaming the manufacturer for you mistake. I have never, ever broke a phone, and I am not exactly easy on them. I get a decent case, and sometimes (like the s8+), I get accident coverage.
This is no different than my buddy, who bought a brand new car years ago, and never cleaned the inside or out, nor did he wax the vehicle the paint or condition the interior leather. Now he blames Ford for the condition of his vehicle...yet my vehicle is older and looks almost new.
I love this phone.
This thread is loosing its course and is not going anywhere relevant.
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