For photon Q, I want use voice and text from sprint and data from redpocket(AT&T or T-mobile mvno) at the same time, is it possible?
Thanks!
Well, you'd have to do the SIM card mod in order to get AT&T or tmo (or a mvno which is GSM) tow work on the device... and I'm pretty sure that would break Sprint's LTE.
However, I believe Sprint's basic services would still work. Have I done this to test? Nope! So I'm just speculating.
@Skrilax_CZ - how does your Q function stateside?
You had to unlock it for AT&T and use QPST to disable auto switch to CDMA. I wasn't Sprint customer (Sprint = extremely sucky carrier), I suppose it will be no LTE for you, but you'll be able to switch between GSM and CDMA freely.
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Hi,
I currently have an unlocked, out-of-contract Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and I'm considering switching to Ting, a MVNO that uses Sprint's network. However, Ting says this isn't supported, and I was hoping someone here could help me understand why.
As I understand it, both Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, so I already have the hardware I need to communicate with Sprint's network. However, the ESN on my phone is not currently whitelisted on the Sprint network, therefore it won't work.
Ting has a bring your own device program. If your phone is on their whitelist, and it is Sprint branded, you can use it with their network. So I guess what I'm struggling to understand is why Sprint branded phones will work, but non-Sprint branded phones will not.
Is the fundamental issue simply here that Sprint refuses to whitelist my ESN because it is a Verizon phone? Or is there a technical reason why I can't use my Verizon Galaxy Nexus with Sprint? Is there anything I can do get my existing phone to work with Ting?
Thanks,
John
there's pseudo-technical reason, and it boils down to the big V is a stupid way, the reason is that Verizon uses a weird (read: f***ed up) way of authenticating devices on their "CDMA" network, Verizon uses WCDMA/CDMA2000 style authentication even for the 4g towers, and the hybrid AAA/HA keys they use were developed by them for use only on their network, this is why, primarily, that sprint phones are incompatible on verizon and vis-versa (Also, anecdotaly why Verizon 4G phones are a pain to put on Verizon MVNOs though with the GNex it is possible, I have mine on page plus using Sprint's CDMA radio firmware, and YES everything, even 3G data works fine, and no, no ESN swap was needed). Basically it's a ploy to keep Verizon phones, well, on Verizon..
HI, I was planning on importing a Verizon LG G2 to the netherlands, but now I'm not so sure it'll work 'cause over here we use gsm and verizon uses cdma. I'm motorically disabled, so charging via USB is not very handy, so Verizon's qi-capability seemed nice untill I saw the difference between gsm and cdm. So question is: are there G2's with gsm ability and qi( I read only Verizon has that, that's why)
Starting to do my research on taking my Photon Q LTE from Sprint over to FreedomPop.
Has anyone done this yet?
How did you do it and what is your opinion of the entire experience?
Is it Officially Supported by Freedom pop? If not, when?
If not supported, how to get a Photon Q LTE on FreedomPop now?
If you have any experience with FreedomPop service, please give the geographic service area you've tried and your impression of the FreedomPop service.
Thank you.
No LTE for all "SIM-cards" except the buit-in one.
There is afaik no chance to get LTE working with another carrier than the original one (sprint).
Loader009 said:
No LTE for all "SIM-cards" except the buit-in one.
There is afaik no chance to get LTE working with another carrier than the original one (sprint).
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But FreedomPop is a Sprint MVNO...
I'm not saying this will guarantee it'll work, but I'd say there's a much better chance it will.
I'm kind of curious, but not sure I'm ready to switch my phone to FreedomPop. Maybe I'll try it out on my roomie's phone first...
4g LTE works for the photonQ on Voyager Mobile and Ringplus, those are the best sprint mvno's imo...
Then it have to work without hardware modding, right?
If I'm wrong and it works with a hardwaremod, then other carrier with the same LTE frequency should also work.
I'm kind of confused, how LTE is working in our Q.
Loader009 said:
Then it have to work without hardware modding, right?
If I'm wrong and it works with a hardwaremod, then other carrier with the same LTE frequency should also work.
I'm kind of confused, how LTE is working in our Q.
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What we mean by Sprint MVNO is they basically resell Sprint service. So you aren't paying Sprint directly, but you are using their towers/network. The MVNO leases the network space from Sprint... Pretty much all the big providers lease space on their network to gain another revenue stream.
Yes, I know what a MVNO is.
But in my country you need for each MVNO an own SIM-card.
I assumed that something similiar is done in the US.
If you can change to another Sprint reseller without the need of change something in hardware, then it might work.
I'm probably unaware of the typical US mobiles and the carriers technology.
Loader009 said:
Yes, I know what a MVNO is.
But in my country you need for each MVNO an own SIM-card.
I assumed that something similiar is done in the US.
If you can change to another Sprint reseller without the need of change something in hardware, then it might work.
I'm probably unaware of the typical US mobiles and the carriers technology.
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Typically MVNOs that operate on GSM networks have their own SIM cards, however CDMA carriers (such as those running on Sprint) identify the phone by its internal ESN. Since there is no SIM to swap, the ESN has to be reassigned from Sprint to their MVNO.
And FYI, the Q works beautifully on Ting as well, LTE and all.
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Typically MVNOs that operate on GSM networks have their own SIM cards, however CDMA carriers (such as those running on Sprint) identify the phone by its internal ESN. Since there is no SIM to swap, the ESN has to be reassigned from Sprint to their MVNO.
And FYI, the Q works beautifully on Ting as well, LTE and all.
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Nice, thanks for the explanation.
Now, is Ting a GSM or CDMA carrier/MVNO?
I assume it's a CDMA MVNO, which works inside the sprint network and is (because of sprint) able to operate in the LTE network.
Freedom Pop is a rip off I set up a free data account and they tried to charge me. The only customer service is through there forums.
I use Ting they are great.
They resell Sprint.
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guys
just a general question on how cdma networks and phones work. Today, verizon 4g phones come with a sim card. If that's the case, why are there two editions of most phones - one for verizon and another for sprint? Are the two carriers still using cdma?
Thx
GSM & CDMA Explanation
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guys
just a general question on how cdma networks and phones work. Today, verizon 4g phones come with a sim card. If that's the case, why are there two editions of most phones - one for verizon and another for sprint? Are the two carriers still using cdma?
Thx
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There are two types of mobile cell phone communication technology, GSM and CDMA. CDMA phones cannot run on GSM networks and visa versa. While there are few advantages, GSM is considered to be better because it has LTE support, and used internationally.
Carriers like AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM, while Verizon and Sprint use CDMA. GSM uses SIM cards, and CDMA phones have a programmable radio inside of the phone.
But, Verizon and Sprint use SIM cards in there newer phones. They use GSM IN ADDITION to CDMA. The SIM card only gives the phone LTE though, because CDMA does not support it.
So, yes Verizon and Sprint use CDMA, for call, text, data, internet, 4G and they use GSM for LTE only.
GSM carriers (AT&T and T-Mobile), use only a SIM card, and the GSM technology for call, text, data, internet, 4G, AND LTE.
I hope this answered your question and heightened your knowledge!
can a nexus 6 purchased from verizon be used on the sprint network - thx
Yes, if unlocked
Yes, they will usually work but only if they are unlocked. Different carriers have different policies and requirements that you must meet before they give you the unlock code to bring the phone to another carrier.
You're at an advantage using the Nexus 6, unlocking solutions are plentiful. Go to the N6 forum for more. If you plan on going from CDMA to CDMA you should be gold (per the carriers you mentioned).
Hi folks,
I live in a black hole of cellular signal. The only provider that has towers where I live is Verizon. I drive 45 minutes to work every day and over there both Verizon and AT&T have towers. I'm currently using a small, local carrier that uses Verizon towers and phones. I bought a Nexus 6 and want to activate it on straight talk. I thought I could use the IMEI from my existing phone, since it's a Verizon phone, but they say it's not compatible. They say they can activate it as a GSM phone, but I've read that if I activate it as a GSM device, it will not connect to Verizon towers so would basically be useless where I live. However, that doesn't really make sense to me since the Nexus 6 has both CDMA and GSM radios in it.
Does anyone know if I activate a GSM sim and pop it in my Nexus 6 if it will connect to Verizon towers? We do have LTE here, if that makes a difference Thanks for any help you can provide!.
Verizon network will only use CDMA but you could still use it in roaming
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Verizon network will only use CDMA but you could still use it in roaming
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Will it roam on cdma if i activate it as gsm though?