Several questions to understand hboot update on HOX evita - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

So I'm a first time flasher and i've done my thorough reading and research.
I have an at&t HTC one X, but i'm using it in India.
I was flashing it to CM11 Snapshot, for which i have unlocked bootloader from HTCdev, i already had S-Off and CID-11111111 (no idea why... and can someone explain what is supercid btw ?)
Also installed twrp and its inbuilt supersu. I verified full root access with root checker.
Right when i was ready to finally flash the CM11, i get an error message saying that i have hboot 1.14 and that i need a higher one (1.19 i think... dont remember)
Ive checked for the solution, it seems that i need to install the 3.18 RUU to update hboot to 2.14. However, its not available on the following link, So i guess i shud get the next available RUU, which is 5.18.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119610)
I also read that i cant root 5.18, unless im already rooted. So i dont have to worry about this right ? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952038&page=58)
2 questions here,
Will it matter if i get 5.18 instead of 3.18 ? Plus, the 5.18 ruu is an exe file, not zip... is the flashing procedure different ?
I dont want to update the entire RUU, i just want to update my hboot. Is it possible ? If yes, how ?
I read that rooting is different for 3.18 than my current 2.20 firmware. I dont understand that either :/
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 )
And i need to toggle my bootlock ?
( http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/74576-only-support-214-hboot/ )
Thats probably a lot of questions. But im really trying to understand this right. Basically what i wanna know is, what exactly do i do next to simply update my hboot safely, and then cm11.

zain910128 said:
So I'm a first time flasher and i've done my thorough reading and research.
I have an at&t HTC one X, but i'm using it in India.
I was flashing it to CM11 Snapshot, for which i have unlocked bootloader from HTCdev, i already had S-Off and CID-11111111 (no idea why... and can someone explain what is supercid btw ?)
Also installed twrp and its inbuilt supersu. I verified full root access with root checker.
Right when i was ready to finally flash the CM11, i get an error message saying that i have hboot 1.14 and that i need a higher one (1.19 i think... dont remember)
Ive checked for the solution, it seems that i need to install the 3.18 RUU to update hboot to 2.14. However, its not available on the following link, So i guess i shud get the next available RUU, which is 5.18.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119610)
I also read that i cant root 5.18, unless im already rooted. So i dont have to worry about this right ? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952038&page=58)
2 questions here,
Will it matter if i get 5.18 instead of 3.18 ? Plus, the 5.18 ruu is an exe file, not zip... is the flashing procedure different ?
I dont want to update the entire RUU, i just want to update my hboot. Is it possible ? If yes, how ?
I read that rooting is different for 3.18 than my current 2.20 firmware. I dont understand that either :/
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 )
And i need to toggle my bootlock ?
( http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/74576-only-support-214-hboot/ )
Thats probably a lot of questions. But im really trying to understand this right. Basically what i wanna know is, what exactly do i do next to simply update my hboot safely, and then cm11.
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In response to your first question, SuperCID is a generic CID that unlocks your device from being identified and restricted to a certain carrier or region.
You don't need to worry about rooting methods for any specific version, you already have an unlocked bootloader and s-off, and your phone will stay like that unless you deliberately change it.
You don't want to update just the hboot. The ROMs look for a certain hboot version to be present during installation, but this is actually to verify that you have the right firmware installed, so you need to update your firmware, not just the hboot.
Luckily you don't need to mess around with any RUU at all. There's a much better and easier solution to your problem and that's simply to flash the 2.15 firmware package. There's a download and full instructions in my guide thread, you'll find the link in my signature.
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I have hboot 1.14 and built 2.20
You've mentioned installing firmware 2.15 package. Isnt that a downgrade ?
Also, can you explain the relation between hboot-firmware-built-RUU ?
timmaaa said:
In response to your first question, SuperCID is a generic CID that unlocks your device from being identified and restricted to a certain carrier or region.
You don't need to worry about rooting methods for any specific version, you already have an unlocked bootloader and s-off, and your phone will stay like that unless you deliberately change it.
You don't want to update just the hboot. The ROMs look for a certain hboot version to be present during installation, but this is actually to verify that you have the right firmware installed, so you need to update your firmware, not just the hboot.
Luckily you don't need to mess around with any RUU at all. There's a much better and easier solution to your problem and that's simply to flash the 2.15 firmware package. There's a download and full instructions in my guide thread, you'll find the link in my signature.
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zain910128 said:
I have hboot 1.14 and built 2.20
You've mentioned installing firmware 2.15 package. Isnt that a downgrade ?
Also, can you explain the relation between hboot-firmware-built-RUU ?
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No it isn't a downgrade, the 2.15 refers to the hboot that's contained in the firmware package. Here's a brief explanation:
RUU: contains the ROM, recovery, firmware. An automated process which installs all of these items.
Firmware: contains the hboot, modules for Wi-Fi, media, etc.
ROM: the operating system (this is what is referred to by the build number).
Trust me, I'm very experienced with this device, all you need to do is what I outlined in my initial reply.

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timmaaa said:
No it isn't a downgrade, the 2.15 refers to the hboot that's contained in the firmware package. Here's a brief explanation:
RUU: contains the ROM, recovery, firmware. An automated process which installs all of these items.
Firmware: contains the hboot, modules for Wi-Fi, media, etc.
ROM: the operating system (this is what is referred to by the build number).
Trust me, I'm very experienced with this device, all you need to do is what I outlined in my initial reply.
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Thanks a bunch !
Successfully running CM11.
A couple of more things id like your thoughts on:
1. Can you tell me how i can get rid of the splash screen message ?
Or is it possible to use my own splash screen ?
2. When i go to settings to customise slider lock shortcuts, it is pre set to unlock on right and various other shortcuts on the other 4 slots. I wanted to have unlock on top and the other shortcuts on either side. However, im unable to edit the right side shortcut.

zain910128 said:
Thanks a bunch !
Successfully running CM11.
A couple of more things id like your thoughts on:
1. Can you tell me how i can get rid of the splash screen message ?
Or is it possible to use my own splash screen ?
2. When i go to settings to customise slider lock shortcuts, it is pre set to unlock on right and various other shortcuts on the other 4 slots. I wanted to have unlock on top and the other shortcuts on either side. However, im unable to edit the right side shortcut.
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Do you mean the red text? You can flash a modified hboot but they can cause problems, my advice is just deal with the text. You can only have the unlock target on the right, you can't modify that.
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[Q] OTA Updates on rooted, 111111, s-off, custom rom devices?

I have a couple questions.
I am on the 1.16 hboot with cid111111 and s-off unlocked tampered. twrp and maximus rom.
I finally did super cid and s-off on my one-s. Shortly after I recieved a notification that ota update 3.16.401.8 (612.27 mb) was available.
I was wondering if it would even work if i attempted to update. or would i have to update manually. Or would it brick it.
The main reason i would want to update is because the JB Sense roms just dont seem to run smoothly on my phone.
I was thinking this would update everything so the custom roms run smoother.
And Should i even update my hboot. does it make a difference.
I would usually be against it(ive had to downgrade other phones before).
Never take an OTA if you are on a custom rom with a custom recovery. Especially if you have SuperCID, unless you want a paperweight. If you want that OTA, you need to get you original CID, flash stock recovery, relock bootloader, then flash an RUU for your carrier.
impostle said:
Never take an OTA if you are on a custom rom with a custom recovery. Especially if you have SuperCID, unless you want a paperweight. If you want that OTA, you need to get you original CID, flash stock recovery, relock bootloader, then flash an RUU for your carrier.
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Ok. ill look into that. sounds easy enough. last time i tried to update, i couldnt because of my cid. now i guess since there is an official t-mob i can do it?
You cant flash an ruu with super cid?
Oh and also, Once i update my hboot am i able to install the older ICS roms like maximus. thats just the most stable one i have found for my particular phone.
One more. Will i be able to restore my cid with s-off
ruu update
i relocked, then changed my cid to HTC__001
I triedto update via ruu exe file. but i got an error 155.
Im not sure how to update via the zip of the ruu. if its possible.
Also cant find any instruction or files for the original recovery.
I will try to install ota. hopefully i dont end up with a new frisbee.
If i were to extract the framwork.zip frim the ruu zip then install it via fastboot. would that give me the latest hboot. then maybe i could install the updates.
myphonesbetter said:
i relocked, then changed my cid to HTC__001
I triedto update via ruu exe file. but i got an error 155.
Im not sure how to update via the zip of the ruu. if its possible.
Also cant find any instruction or files for the original recovery.
I will try to install ota. hopefully i dont end up with a new frisbee.
If i were to extract the framwork.zip frim the ruu zip then install it via fastboot. would that give me the latest hboot. then maybe i could install the updates.
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If you update your Hboot that kind makes it more difficult to flash custom roms. You should just find a nice custom jellybean rom, there are some good ones out there.
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If you update your Hboot that kind makes it more difficult to flash custom roms. You should just find a nice custom jellybean rom, there are some good ones out there.
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updating your hboot makes no significant difference (its a myth that its more difficult to flash custom roms on a later hboot).
im on latest hboot and can flash all things i want.
and if your device is S-off dont bother to relock your device/reinstall stock recovery. It will get overwritten anyways.
only thing important is to change the cid. you can always install a older hboot if s-off
have you tried the ruu.exe while in fastboot-usb?
real187 said:
updating your hboot makes no significant difference (its a myth that its more difficult to flash custom roms on a later hboot).
im on latest hboot and can flash all things i want.
and if your device is S-off dont bother to relock your device/reinstall stock recovery. It will get overwritten anyways.
only thing important is to change the cid. you can always install a older hboot if s-off
have you tried the ruu.exe while in fastboot-usb?
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When I said it was more difficult I meant it was more work, having to flash the boot.img separately. If you are on a lower Hboot you don't have to do that. Also if you are going to suggest he do S-Off you should at least give him a warning about some of the issues people have ran into after doing it.
EDIT: Thats what I get for watching too many threads, I miss stuff.
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When I said it was more difficult I meant it was more work, having to flash the boot.img separately. If you are on a lower Hboot you don't have to do that. Also if you are going to suggest he do S-Off you should at least give him a warning about some of the issues people have ran into after doing it.
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he is already S-off. (see first post)
but anyways, if you dont do research before you do something, and it fuks up your device, its still gonna be your own fault.
what issues your talking about?
real187 said:
he is already S-off. (see first post)
but anyways, if you dont do research before you do something, and it fuks up your device, its still gonna be your own fault.
what issues your talking about?
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I saw a thread about people losing 3g/4g data after an S-Off.
With S-Off you are made in the shade, you can downgrade your Hboot just by running the appropriate RUU. But you have to change your CID back to what is was before you try to flash the RUU.
impostle said:
I saw a thread about people losing 3g/4g data after an S-Off.
With S-Off you are made in the shade, you can downgrade your Hboot just by running the appropriate RUU. But you have to change your CID back to what is was before you try to flash the RUU.
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I have seen the tread. But im scepitical, because if it really was only because of the s-off more people should have it. Might be hardware related.
Eh you do not have tot change back your Cid to original (if its a branded Cid the ruu still wont run), just a valid HTC Cid.
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He could flash from recovery or fastboot flash any hboot he wants with s-off. No RUU needed for downgrade or upgrade. That's only needed to go back to stock for warranty purposes.
@myphonesbetter
If you want the red warning text overlay to be gone as well choose any of the files here and flash it within recovery. S-Off needed to do so!
To remove ***Tampered*** as well download hboot 1.140004. You will need to come from a lower hboot version so if you're already on >1.140004 flash one <1.140004 first.
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You can lock/unlock your phone as well by flashing. Read more in [how to] reset your lock status flag. Also it's in the Droid DNA forums it's valid for One S. Remember: You need s-off for this to work.
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You can change your CID pretty simple on rootet devices. Just enter fastboot mode and type:
'fastboot oem writecid HTC__001'
Reboot bootloader then. You can find a collection of HTC ONE S CID's here
^^^^^Very helpful post. thank you. I wouldve never found that.
When you run the ruu .exe, do you have to be in fastboot or in android? The install app told me just to turn the phone on so i figured it would automatically go into bootloader. but it did nothing at all to my phone and gave me an error 115.
When i tried the ota it tells me that I am runnning an altrered OS and i will have to install it a different way.
Sorry for the easy questions. but i just cant seem to find any threads that say how to. I found the ruu and a zip of the ruu. but not how to install it.
The best sense rom has instructions on flashing a newer hboot. .but i want to install a completely stock rom.
myphonesbetter said:
^^^^^Very helpful post. thank you. I wouldve never found that.
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guess you run out of thanks, no?
Never even noticed the thanks meter. I have more of a direct thank you approach.
I tried to flash the ruu .exe in fastboot. and it actually rebooted into the black htc screen, so i figure thats the way to do it.
Unfortunately I got another error. image error (159) use the correct rom and flash again.
I am attempting to flash 3.16.401.8 onto hboot 1.16 (relocked) i am s-off and i changed my cid to HTC__001 via fastboot.
Is there another way. or can i flash the zip in twrp or cwm? Again i just want an oem jelly bean with the proper hboot and radio and everything that the OTA would change. so i can be up to date before i move on to the JB roms.
Ive tried all of the custom ones, and the wifi cuts in and out. i used the wifi partition fix. and i flashed the latest radio. nothing helped for more than a few hours.
don't know what to say; normally you can flash whatever rom you want without problems;
guess 99% of users here did it.
however I can not understand what do you want to be full stock? warranty problems?
ultimul said:
don't know what to say; normally you can flash whatever rom you want without problems;
guess 99% of users here did it.
however I can not understand what do you want to be full stock? warranty problems?
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Yah thats usually how it works for me. if it works for 99% of people with one step. ill have to do it manually with 20 steps. I guess its made me learn alot about adb and fastboot. I could never get adb to work untill i upgraded to windows 7 recently. until then i had to exract everything to my sdcard via terminal emulator and then drag it to my computer form the card and modify things. but ive been forced to learn quite a bit.
Its weird. I bought my phone off of craigslist from someone who had no idea how to root. But when i opened it into hboot it said Tampered and locked. with no signs of ever being unlocked. completely stock rom and no red warning text on the splash screen.
The reason i want to be stock it so i know all the correct partitions and everything are set up right. (that part i dont understand yet).
I know that a normal system wipe in twrp or cwm doesnt wipe everything. If i wipe and install the same rom i am using(just to clear it up and start over) it doesnt even wipe the app data. (at least on my phone)
Im thinking that its because i am installing a euro rom with a HTC__001 cid and mine was originally TMUS T-MOB010 .
one thing i noticed also is that windows could not verify either of the ruus i downloaded from shppied roms
How do i flash the ruu.zip that i downloaded? Do i need to rename it update.zip like the older phones? Its been a while.
Ok so i know im pretty much helping myself here but i hate when i come across threads with no conclusion.
I was able to succesfully update with the t-mob 2.35 ruu .exe thats on shipped roms .com so i know its not a problem with my computer.
still on hboot1.14 (thought i was on 1.16).
I changed my cid back to t-mob010.
Im just not sure why i cant update with the htc__001 with the 3.16 update.
Any help would be appreciated.
Ahh, things go on here! Nice! :laugh:
It's not quite clear if the RUU is the right one on this phone as many people report problems... So let's go OTA.
To flash the 3.16 OTA update your hboot needs to be < 2.15, your recovery needs to be the HTC stock one , your device needs to be relocked (not totally shure as mine wasn't at that time and it worked, but please remember that) and you need to have HTC stock system/ and stock data/ (ICS) files on your phone (you'll have to unroot as well, if rootet), as the OTA seems to check if certain files are present before working.
All that is quite a pain in the ass, isn't it?! So do one the following:
- Just make shure your bootloader version is lower 2.15, else flash a lower one.
- Click here and you'll have access to one of my google drive folders.
- Download the 2.31 zip. Unpack and copy these nandroid backup files into the appropriate TWRP folder on your phone, reboot into recovery and restore. Once done, you'll be able to flash the 3.16 OTA update after reboot. Remember to change CID before if you're on 11111111.
- Or download the 3.16 zip, unpack and restore. You'll have stock htc sense JB without the OTA. You don't even need to downgrade your bootloader in case. CID doesn't matter here.
- To root simply download SU_Bbox file and flash in recovery.
Important: With the JB update HTC invented disk write protection by default. This simply means that files deleted within stock sense JB will be back after rebooting the phone, also root was granted and working (still grats to htc for this one!!!). Check out for elemental x kernel at this point, as flar2 is the one offering additional modules for the stock kernel working around this. So you can be on stock JB as close as possible with write protection disabled.
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I nearly forgot: If you're experiencing WiFi troubles afterwards search for flashing wifi partitions.
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myphonesbetter said:
I was able to succesfully update with the t-mob 2.35 ruu .exe thats on shipped roms .com so i know its not a problem with my computer.
still on hboot1.14 (thought i was on 1.16).
I changed my cid back to t-mob010.
Im just not sure why i cant update with the htc__001 with the 3.16 update.
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Cause you're on 2.35 US. You need to be on 2.31 EU before, because 3.16 is EU and there is still no JB update to 2.35 US. 3.16 OTA will work with htc__001 (htc worldwide).
The OTA determined my OS was modified.
I could not restore the folder i took directly out of the zip.
There was a folder inside the folder that contained the same files. I was able to flash this.
My hboot is still at 1.14 my cid is not htc--001 relocked. the update was 650 mb of which i could not use wifi for becauese it just said error.
so 650 mb through tmobile. only took a few minutes but used almoast half of my months dl limit.
IDK. i found instructions on how to update the hboot in best sense roms thread. i will try that.
Edit: the restore for 3.16 worked in twrp. shouldve tried that first.
I may still update my hboot. I cant really find any instructions. Apparently the search just finds every thread and lists it.
If you are on the latest TWRP 2.4.3.0 go back to 2.4.1.0 (the latest one seems to have restore problems).
The folder contained in the zip needs to be copied to /TWRP/BACKUPS/HT23whatever/
You should be able to restore then.
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hehe, ok then.
You can flash any of these hboots from within TWRP. Up or down, it doesn't matter - you're s-off.
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CID should be HTC__001 not htc--001. Maybe a typo.

[HOWTO] [HTC One SV] Unbrand your phone to get the OTA updates

Bonjour everyone, here's a little guide on how to unbrand your phone in order to get the OTA updates notifications directly and be able to install them.
If you want to get S-OFF one day on your One SV, read this first. You need to change CID to SuperCID to do so, and it's not possible (for the moment) if you upgrade to JB
Basically this works as long as your phone model is sold unbranded somewhere in the world and that the people having such a phone got an OTA update.
For now, ther's no way to change CID if you're running JB and are S-ON. That means that this only work for One SV's running ICS who want to get the OTA updates.
As far as I know, it works on K2_U and K2_UL, since they both got an OTA update to JB.
The trick is simple, I didn't invent it and haven't been able to find its original founder, but thanks a lot to her or him !
I'm basically just a messenger here since I only tried out some stuff that worked with other phones, so thanks a lot to bkcokota, old.splatterhand and jmztaylor
Don't try it if you're worried, bricks happen, you'd be the only one responsible !
Here we go :
1. First you need to root your phone, here's how.
2. Change you CID using the same method than for the One S.
Personnaly, I changed it to "HTC__203", which is the CID unbranded HTC phones have in France (HTC-FRA).
For example, "HTC__001" is HTC-WWE, which stands for World Wide English.
You can change it to whatever CID you like : choose it well. I can only recommend to use HTC__203 since it's the only one I tried and that it worked, but do as you please !
3. Flash stock recovery back. You'll find it here or here. Flash it like you flashed CWM recovery (into fastboot, using fastboot flash recovery xxxxxx.img).
4. Relock your bootloader. It's possible that it's not necessary, but it can't hurt ("fastboot oem lock", when in fastboot usb)
5. Run a RUU that matches you unbranded CID to get an "unbranded" rom.
You'll find them here, for example. The "RUU_K2_UL_ICS_40_HTC_Europe_1.17.401.5_R....exe" one will work with HTC__203 and HTC__001 CIDs.
6. Go ask your phone if he can find any updates
WARNING : for the moment there's no way to change CID if you upgrade to JB since the newer HBOOT (v2.00) don't let you do it. That means that for now you won't be able to S-OFF if you upgrate to JB using this method. For now...
Nice one!
Only thing i would add for people to know:
if somebody want to get S-Off, they should change the CID to SuperCID 11111111 (or if you want 22222222,...).
old.splatterhand said:
Nice one!
Only thing i would add for people to know:
if somebody want to get S-Off, they should change the CID to SuperCID 11111111 (or if you want 22222222,...).
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Done, sir.
It was only said at the bottom of the message at first, but now I put it at the beginning as well.
There's one thing that I'm trying to get though : according to a lot of people and forums, you don't get OTA when you have SuperCID... but some poeple say they do.
It probably changes depending on the type of HTC phone, but also depending on the OTA (some got the first ones, but not the latest...).
I got the ota notification with SuperCID, i think it depends on more things.
But there i'm not far enough into it.
I have had no success at all. My story:
Updated a branded phone to JB, rooted. Then I did a moonshine S-off and changed CID to HTC__001 (even tried 11111111).
I have downloaded a ICS RUU (couldn't find stock K2_UL so I thought that I would download ICS first and then do OTA to JB) but I am getting error 158. I have checked md5 sum and it matches (http://androidfiles.org/ruu/getdown...0.14_2_10.49.40.11L_release_301902_signed.exe). Any ideas?
If you're on jb and hboot 2.00, that's normal... and written in the first post.
There is information that it is impossible to change CID while on JB and with 2.0 hboot, but I guess that I have had success in changing to superCID (at least this is what I can read in bootloader and using fastboot oem readcid command.
So, as far as I understand newer hboot won't let me use older RUU as well, right?
Is there any chance to make this for the k2cl ( boost mobile ) version?
idr666 said:
Is there any chance to make this for the k2cl ( boost mobile ) version?
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Can you be more specific, what you mean with "this".
old.splatterhand said:
Can you be more specific, what you mean with "this".
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Sorry, I was wondering if there is a way to update this phone ( the k2cl ) to JB
idr666 said:
Sorry, I was wondering if there is a way to update this phone ( the k2cl ) to JB
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Boost has no official jb, but i know that there is work for an custom jb rom for boost.
Oh, thank you for the info. Is there any link about this work in progress?
idr666 said:
Oh, thank you for the info. Is there any link about this work in progress?
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Look here
szympro said:
There is information that it is impossible to change CID while on JB and with 2.0 hboot, but I guess that I have had success in changing to superCID (at least this is what I can read in bootloader and using fastboot oem readcid command.
So, as far as I understand newer hboot won't let me use older RUU as well, right?
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old.splatterhand, you seem to know this and that about One SV. No chance for older RUU, right? I can't seem to find a clean WWE JB OTA update. I just want a clean, stock, not modified ROM from HTC and I thought RUU is the only way to go :crying: Any advices?
szympro said:
There is information that it is impossible to change CID while on JB and with 2.0 hboot,...
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This was before moonshine was available. With S-Off i think it should be possible.
So, as far as I understand newer hboot won't let me use older RUU as well, right?
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I think so.
szympro said:
old.splatterhand, you seem to know this and that about One SV. No chance for older RUU, right? I can't seem to find a clean WWE JB OTA update. I just want a clean, stock, not modified ROM from HTC and I thought RUU is the only way to go :crying: Any advices?
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To get it a bit clearer.
At this point i'm not very up to date, thats why i didn't answer til now.
I think (but i'm not sure) you can flash the ruu, if you are on hboot 1.0.
And as you are S-Off you should be able to downgrade hboot. But this is a very risky point, you can easily brick your device. Here is, how you have to do:
rollon76 said:
To change hboot you will need a PL80IMG.zip on sdcard with android-info.txt and hboot.img inside it.
reboot to bootloader and flash.
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The thing what makes it difficult, is to get the hboot.img (its inside ics ruu), cause the htc ruu's encrypted and i only have heard about tools for linux which can decrypt it.
Thanks to your reply I did some research and I have managed to do what I wanted. I have downgraded hboot first (by extracting and encrypting ICS RUU using linux), then I could run RUU and now I am stock ICS with S-off and superCID
Should I post some files from RUU? 1.0 hboot or stock recovery? You guys need something?
Thanks for your helping hand old.splatterhand!
szympro said:
Thanks to your reply I did some research and I have managed to do what I wanted. I have downgraded hboot first (by extracting and encrypting ICS RUU using linux), then I could run RUU and now I am stock ICS with S-off and superCID
Should I post some files from RUU? 1.0 hboot or stock recovery? You guys need something?
Thanks for your helping hand old.splatterhand!
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Glad, it worked for you.
Yes, of course, everything is appreciated! You can use this thread, please post ruu name too. You can look at my posts there. Hboot, boot.img, recovery, radio, would be fine.
HERE have other ruu
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1t2zswod7tc97az/5hbzEgTv80
szympro said:
I have downgraded hboot first (by extracting and encrypting ICS RUU using linux)
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Wow, that's cool !
Did you use rollon's method and flashed PL80IMG.zip in bootloader mode ?
If yes, which android-info.txt did you use ?
If not, how did you do it ?
szympro said:
then I could run RUU and now I am stock ICS with S-off and superCID
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Even cooler for you.
Did you get the ota update notification for JB then ?
Did you manage to apply it ?
Thanks and congratulations !
Hi everyone.
Just a quick message to confirm that rollon's method works.
To downgrade you need to be S-OFF, extract and decrypt (with ruuveal, using linux or a linux virtualbox runned in windows) hboot and androidinfo from ICS RUU, put them in a zip named PL80IMG.zip, put it on your sd card and boot into bootloader. Then you can run the ICS RUU normally and you'll be back to stock ICS, with a "*** LOCKED ***" bootloader (not relocked !), will be able to go back to S-ON using "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" (thanks to JMZ)...
You'll then have a locked S-ON out of box phone running 100% stock ICS with original boot, recovery and all that... who'll get the 2 JB OTA's...
In case anyone's interested

[SOLVED] Upgrading Firmware + hboot with S-OFF

Right now I'm using the latest ViperROM 2.2.0 with S-OFF, Hboot 1.06 (flashed via S-OFF) and SuperCID 111111. The phone is an unbranded, european, unlocked, non-tmobile phone. Now I was looking into using the newest CM10.1, but for this I'd need to upgrade my radio (and Hboot?).
I haven't had the time to follow all the events. When trying to read what way I should follow, I stumbleupon bricked devices and people who don't have problems. So I actually don't know what to believe and what to do.
Could anyone point me out what I should do with my device do minimize the risk of bricking it while upgrading? Would have followed the instructions in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322755, but the 2nd post makes me anxious.
Edit 2013-07-10: I've solved my issues and am now on Hboot 2.15 with S-OFF (didn't lose it with the upgrade) and CM10.1! See the last post for details.
m1schi said:
Right now I'm using the latest ViperROM 2.2.0 with S-OFF, Hboot 1.06 (flashed via S-OFF) and SuperCID 111111. The phone is an unbranded, european, unlocked, non-tmobile phone. Now I was looking into using the newest CM10.1, but for this I'd need to upgrade my radio (and Hboot?).
I haven't had the time to follow all the events. When trying to read what way I should follow, I stumbleupon bricked devices and people who don't have problems. So I actually don't know what to believe and what to do.
Could anyone point me out what I should do with my device do minimize the risk of bricking it while upgrading? Would have followed the instructions in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322755, but the 2nd post makes me anxious.
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Since you are already S-OFF there is no need to upgrade your H-Boot. That does not effect the rom at all. With the Radio, when you flash the Rom it will automatically change the radio to the one preset by CM10.1 for the Rom. If you live in an area not covered by the radio, with S-OFF, you can flash any radio that you would like that is covered where you live and gives you the best service for your Provider.
m1schi said:
Right now I'm using the latest ViperROM 2.2.0 with S-OFF, Hboot 1.06 (flashed via S-OFF) and SuperCID 111111. The phone is an unbranded, european, unlocked, non-tmobile phone. Now I was looking into using the newest CM10.1, but for this I'd need to upgrade my radio (and Hboot?).
I haven't had the time to follow all the events. When trying to read what way I should follow, I stumbleupon bricked devices and people who don't have problems. So I actually don't know what to believe and what to do.
Could anyone point me out what I should do with my device do minimize the risk of bricking it while upgrading? Would have followed the instructions in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322755, but the 2nd post makes me anxious.
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Change your cid back to your og HTC one.
Supercid has lost most it value since your soff. You can change it whenever you want.
Ehh the low hboot you have has almost no added use since your s-off.
Forget about needing a new radio, who told you that? You can flash whatever radio you want.
You need a update hboot and firmware.
New kernels require that. Not radio.
Easiest way. Run latest ruu with your original unbranded HTC cid. No need to relock or s-on. Afterward custom recovery and start flashing.
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Thanks for the answers!
Still I'm puzzled a bit: I need HBOOT 2.15 for the newer ROMS using the newest Kernel? Meaning I can just update the HBOOT version via the command line, because of my S-OFF and flash the ROM I want? No need to use all the procedures you find around here? I'll preserve my S-OFF?
m1schi said:
Thanks for the answers!
Still I'm puzzled a bit: I need HBOOT 2.15 for the newer ROMS using the newest Kernel? Meaning I can just update the HBOOT version via the command line, because of my S-OFF and flash the ROM I want? No need to use all the procedures you find around here? I'll preserve my S-OFF?
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if flashing a ruu s-off will be preserved.
so
change to your original cid with fastboot command.
flash a ruu wich is/came originaly with your cid/device (lower version is no problem, if you cant find the jb one of your device),
then do otas till your on JB.
the flash stock recovery, then custom rom. finished.
m1schi said:
Right now I'm using the latest ViperROM 2.2.0 with S-OFF, Hboot 1.06 (flashed via S-OFF) and SuperCID 111111. The phone is an unbranded, european, unlocked, non-tmobile phone. Now I was looking into using the newest CM10.1, but for this I'd need to upgrade my radio (and Hboot?).
I haven't had the time to follow all the events. When trying to read what way I should follow, I stumbleupon bricked devices and people who don't have problems. So I actually don't know what to believe and what to do.
Could anyone point me out what I should do with my device do minimize the risk of bricking it while upgrading? Would have followed the instructions in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322755, but the 2nd post makes me anxious.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43400980&postcount=22
vatsaman said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43400980&postcount=22
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That's what I'm wondering about: Everyone seems to tell me some other way to upgrade my phone.
You tried to upgrade your phone via RUU?
There seems to be a method without the RUU, just fastboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42985992#post42985992
This should get me onto the newest HBOOT and let me use AOSP ROMS with 3.4 Kernel, without loosing S-OFF or bricking my device?
Edit 2013-07-10: I've used this method to go from my hboot 1.06 to hboot 2.15, while still having S-OFF.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42985992#post42985992

[Q] Update to 4.4 ROM from 4.2 with old hboot

Hi guys,
I am on an old JellyBAM ROM (7.7.0), based on CyanogenMod 10.1.0 (Android 4.2.2). I want to try KitKat roms (4.4.2) such as latest CM 11 nightlies etc. So I want to know what all I need to do to get my phone ready to install 4.4 roms.
Some background:
I unlocked my bootloader using HTC Dev Token ID method, installed CWM recovery, and flashed my current and past roms that way - it has been around a year since I made any updates to my phone. So I think some of my firmware is not current enough to support 4.4 roms.
I am S-ON.
My main concern is that I have hboot 1.08. All the guides I see talk about either hboot 2.15 or 2.16.
Recovery: CWM v5.8.3.1
Phone is carrier-free Ville S4 processor. Currently service provider is Koodo - a division of Telus (in Canada).
CID: ROGER001
Radio: 0.16.31501S.02
From the reading that I did, what I understood is:
First I should S-OFF (to make things easier for any future playing around). I was thinking of using the Firewater S-OFF Tool (from http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...f-tool-will-unlock-any-htc-device-in-moments/)
I need to update my hboot. This is the step I am most worried about, as I have never flashed a RUU before, and that's what most guides say to do. This thread says to just run the JellyBean RUU [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524306]. Would you say that's a pretty safe bet, or is that outdated advice/information?
Once I go S-OFF and update hboot to 2.15, can I just flash CWM (or TWRP) recovery, and flash CM 11 nightlies?
Thanks a lot!
arjundas86 said:
Hi guys,
I am on an old JellyBAM ROM (7.7.0), based on CyanogenMod 10.1.0 (Android 4.2.2). I want to try KitKat roms (4.4.2) such as latest CM 11 nightlies etc. So I want to know what all I need to do to get my phone ready to install 4.4 roms.
Some background:
I unlocked my bootloader using HTC Dev Token ID method, installed CWM recovery, and flashed my current and past roms that way - it has been around a year since I made any updates to my phone. So I think some of my firmware is not current enough to support 4.4 roms.
I am S-ON.
My main concern is that I have hboot 1.08. All the guides I see talk about either hboot 2.15 or 2.16.
Recovery: CWM v5.8.3.1
Phone is carrier-free Ville S4 processor.
Radio: 0.16.31501S.02
From the reading that I did, what I understood is:
First I should S-OFF (to make things easier for any future playing around). I was thinking of using the Firewater S-OFF Tool (from http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...f-tool-will-unlock-any-htc-device-in-moments/)
I need to update my hboot. This is the step I am most worried about, as I have never flashed a RUU before, and that's what most guides say to do. This thread says to just run the JellyBean RUU [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524306]. Would you say that's a pretty safe bet, or is that outdated advice/information?
Once I go S-OFF and update hboot to 2.15, can I just flash CWM (or TWRP) recovery, and flash CM 11 nightlies?
Thanks a lot!
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Whats your CID?
You don't need to be S-OFF if theres a matching RUU for you BUT you cant install lower HBoot versions while you're S-ON. Flashing a custom recovery is also possible while you're S-ON
LS.xD said:
Whats your CID?
You don't need to be S-OFF if theres a matching RUU for you BUT you cant install lower HBoot versions while you're S-ON. Flashing a custom recovery is also possible while you're S-ON
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I am not sure - I have never checked it before.
I ran CID Getter app, and it's supposed to show me CID in red at the top, but it shows nothing. Some of the app comments say that if the CID is not shown, it means I am SuperCID. I'm not sure about that.
I'm at work, but when I get home, I'll run the fastboot command to find out the CID. I didn't do anything intentionally to get SuperCID, so is it likely that I might be SuperCID? How would I know?
arjundas86 said:
I am not sure - I have never checked it before.
I ran CID Getter app, and it's supposed to show me CID in red at the top, but it shows nothing. Some of the app comments say that if the CID is not shown, it means I am SuperCID. I'm not sure about that.
I'm at work, but when I get home, I'll run the fastboot command to find out the CID. I didn't do anything intentionally to get SuperCID, so is it likely that I might be SuperCID? How would I know?
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SuperCID = 11111111
Other CIDs are listed here: HTC CID LIST
You can easiliy read the CID with WinDroid Toolkit 2.0
LS.xD said:
SuperCID = 11111111
Other CIDs are listed here: HTC CID LIST
You can easiliy read the CID with WinDroid Toolkit 2.0
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Thanks for the toolkit.
cid: ROGER001
Btw, what's the purpose of going SuperCID?
Also, I don't want to install lower hboot. I am on hboot 1.08 and I think I need to install hboot 2.15. Right?
I guess S-OFF isn't absolutely necessary, but would be nice to have. Would you recommend using the S-OFF command from the toolkit you linked?
I Don't know which s-off Method is Best for your cid. Have you found matching RUU with hboot 2.15?
With superCID you can switch to other CIDs e.g. for unbranding your device Also it's needed for "Facepalm S-OFF" (Was the only working method for me)
Sent from my loved HTC One S using (most time buggy) Tapatalk
LS.xD said:
I Don't know which s-off Method is Best for your cid. Have you found matching RUU with hboot 2.15?
Sent from my loved HTC One S using (most time buggy) Tapatalk
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I have seen a few options for RUU, but not sure which one I should use. I don't quite understand the relationships between phone parameters and which RUU to get.
The guide that I linked to in my first post, that I was thinking of using says the following one: (but they don't know what my CID is)
RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_TMOUS_3.14.531.11_Radio_1.13.5 0.05.31_10.30.50.08L_release_309489_signed_ICS_2.exe​
Androidruu.com has several other RUUs. I guess since my CID says Rogers, I should use one of the Rogers ones?
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.70.631.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254139_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.84.631.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265373_signed.exe - 2013-04-29​
But my current provider is Koodo, which is a subdivision of Telus. So should I use one of the Telus RUUs?
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.70.661.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254554_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.84.661.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265367_signed.exe - 2013-04-29​
I would appreciate any insights into what would be the applicable RUU?
Thanks.
arjundas86 said:
I have seen a few options for RUU, but not sure which one I should use. I don't quite understand the relationships between phone parameters and which RUU to get.
The guide that I linked to in my first post, that I was thinking of using says the following one: (but they don't know what my CID is)
RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_TMOUS_3.14.531.11_Radio_1.13.5 0.05.31_10.30.50.08L_release_309489_signed_ICS_2.exe​
Androidruu.com has several other RUUs. I guess since my CID says Rogers, I should use one of the Rogers ones?
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.70.631.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254139_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.84.631.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265373_signed.exe - 2013-04-29​
But my current provider is Koodo, which is a subdivision of Telus. So should I use one of the Telus RUUs?
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.70.661.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254554_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.84.661.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265367_signed.exe - 2013-04-29​
I would appreciate any insights into what would be the applicable RUU?
Thanks.
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As long as you are S-ON you can only flash matching RUUs (Rogers). You will need to gain S-OFF to reach HBoot 2.15 as it seems.
LS.xD said:
As long as you are S-ON you can only flash matching RUUs (Rogers). You will need to gain S-OFF to reach HBoot 2.15 as it seems.
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Okay. It seems that the best path forward for me is to S-OFF using the Firewater tool (since my device is HTCDEV unlocked/rooted, and having S-OFF means I won't need to unlock bootloader again after running RUU).
Then I'll run the newest Rogers RUU from AndroidRUU.
At this point, I should be on hboot 2.15 and still bootloader unlocked, right?
If I'm right about all that, then I should just have to install a custom recovery and be able to flash the 4.4 ROM I want. Correct?
arjundas86 said:
Okay. It seems that the best path forward for me is to S-OFF using the Firewater tool (since my device is HTCDEV unlocked/rooted, and having S-OFF means I won't need to unlock bootloader again after running RUU).
Then I'll run the newest Rogers RUU from AndroidRUU.
At this point, I should be on hboot 2.15 and still bootloader unlocked, right?
If I'm right about all that, then I should just have to install a custom recovery and be able to flash the 4.4 ROM I want. Correct?
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Newest Rogers RUU ist HBoot 1.84 as it seems. Once you're S-OFF and have superCID you need to change your CID to unbranded (HTC__001) and flash e.g. unbranded RUU with HBoot 2.15.
LS.xD said:
Newest Rogers RUU ist HBoot 1.84 as it seems. Once you're S-OFF and have superCID you need to change your CID to unbranded (HTC__001) and flash e.g. unbranded RUU with HBoot 2.15.
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Hmm... I see. Things are getting clearer, but still a little confused about SuperCID stuff.
Will running Tmobile US RUU work? That's the one from the guide I read in my first post. He suggests that RUU to get hboot 2.15.
Once I get S-OFF, then I should get SuperCID. I thought with SuperCID (i.e. 11111111), I can run any RUU. Or should I still manually set CID to HTC__001 before running Tmobile US RUU?
arjundas86 said:
Hmm... I see. Things are getting clearer, but still a little confused about SuperCID stuff.
Will running Tmobile US RUU work? That's the one from the guide I read in my first post. He suggests that RUU to get hboot 2.15.
Once I get S-OFF, then I should get SuperCID. I thought with SuperCID (i.e. 11111111), I can run any RUU. Or should I still manually set CID to HTC__001 before running Tmobile US RUU?
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To run a RUU NOT MATCHING your stock CID you need S-OFF // SuperCID. You cant install TMobile RUU at first :/
I would act like this:
Run latest Rogers RUU --> READ FACEPALM GUIDE CAREFULLY. There is how to gain SuperCID and then S-OFF. Once done you can change CID to whatever you want and run a (unbranded) RUU with HBoot 2.15.
But that is just what i thought about it. I suggest to let someone else CONFIRM the way suggested by me first.
Have you tried anything yet? If NO. then STOP. Don't do anything and don't upgrade your firmware/hboot yet. It could happen you won't need this. I am on hboot 1.06 and I'm running fine any ROM including KitKat ones. That requirement for a higher firmware is coming from an old issue that was before with earlier Android versions (from the versions that used 3.4.x kernel and up), making SOME phones to misbehave (reboots or other issues). It could be that your phone handles it right and in that case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want to.
WHY? You should not only upgrade your firmware but also to S-Off. It is not required but it makes your life easier. And these procedures bear some risks even if they were successful for others. And why should you risk anything unless it's mandatory? The point is you have a hboot lower than 1.09. There are not to many left and people are tempted to forget, but hboot lower than 1.09 means you're like an S-Off. You can flash radios and kernels from recovery as on any other S-Off device. Only thing you can't do is to remove those red letters from the boot splash screen...that is you can't flash another firmware. But hopefully you might not need it.
OK. All these being said, I would suggest you to first try to see if the ROM works OK on your phone like it is and only if it doesn't you should think about S-Off, upgrading firmware and things like this.
Now, what you have to do is download the ROM you would like...any ROM, and before flashing it follow my guide HERE to change the updater script in the ROM's ZIP to allow flashing the ROM on lower hboots. It is very easy, I do this usually in 1 min, I would suggest to use method 2 that's much easier than to follow all detailed steps in method 1. If you have any questions or unclear things ask but I think it's easy enough.
If after this you cannot boot the ROM or have it working, then you can think of upgrading firmware
@Rapier
thank you for the provided help as usual
Are there any advantages by unsing HBoot 1.06?? I'm on 2.15 // S-OFF // SuperCID // No red letters // "tampered" removed
LS.xD said:
...Are there any advantages by unsing HBoot 1.06?? I'm on 2.15 // S-OFF // SuperCID // No red letters // "tampered" removed
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For you? NO. You're better than me
The story is like this. I bought the phone in 2012. At that time, the highest hboot was 1.14 I believe (don't remember exactly) and there was no S-Off method available (they appeared later). There was something else tho. The lower hboots (1.09 and lower) permitted to write in the kernel partition or radio partition like an S-Off device. HTC then covered this in the higher hboots. So even if there was no S-Off method, there was a downgrade method that was used to downgrade the hboot from whatever you had to 1.09 or below. I downgraded mine to 1.06...don't ask why I didn't choose 1.09, I thought that was the RUU I considered to be fine for me at that time.
Now being on hboot 1.06 I can do anything except I cannot flash firmwares directly. So I cannot flash a new hboot with red letters removed for example. But I don't care about this...I can flash radios or kernels or splash screens like any S-Off user. The procedure for getting latest firmware and S-Off seems a little bit risky and I've read about alot of issues or problems from people who failed or tried countless times to reach that. So I've asked myself why should I do that if I don't need it?
Then it came the rumor and there were some brick cases of devices that were having some Android 4.3 ROMs and were not on latest firmware (in the meantime 2.13 and 2.15 hboots arise and also the S-Off method). It proved to be not the firmware fault after all. But CM team has included a check in the updater script of the ROM ZIP, to validate if the hboot was 2.13 or 2.15...if not, the flash won't happen. It's a simple assert command present there at the beginning of the script that do the check. As CM team was the pioneer in having the newest Android version ROMs available, everybody based initially their ROMs/builds on CM...so the check in the script was automatically carried over to all the ROMs out there. And it's still here.
As I've tested and I could run fine those ROM's (by removing the check before flash), I noticed that this requirement does not apply to everyone. Some could run fine the ROMs even if they're not on the "latest" firmware.
So that's why I am on 1.06...cause I don't know why should I go through some risky procedures when I don't need to.
Rapier said:
Have you tried anything yet? If NO. then STOP. Don't do anything and don't upgrade your firmware/hboot yet. It could happen you won't need this. I am on hboot 1.06 and I'm running fine any ROM including KitKat ones. That requirement for a higher firmware is coming from an old issue that was before with earlier Android versions (from the versions that used 3.4.x kernel and up), making SOME phones to misbehave (reboots or other issues). It could be that your phone handles it right and in that case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want to.
OK. All these being said, I would suggest you to first try to see if the ROM works OK on your phone like it is and only if it doesn't you should think about S-Off, upgrading firmware and things like this.
Now, what you have to do is download the ROM you would like...any ROM, and before flashing it follow my guide HERE to change the updater script in the ROM's ZIP to allow flashing the ROM on lower hboots. It is very easy, I do this usually in 1 min, I would suggest to use method 2 that's much easier than to follow all detailed steps in method 1. If you have any questions or unclear things ask but I think it's easy enough.
If after this you cannot boot the ROM or have it working, then you can think of upgrading firmware
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I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444.​But no, I haven't done anything yet. So first of all, I'll make a nandroid backup and then just try factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik, and flash a CM 11 ROM, and see if it works. I'll post here whether it worked or not, I won't have time to do this until the weekend though.
Thanks, btw.
Rapier said:
WHY? You should not only upgrade your firmware but also to S-Off. It is not required but it makes your life easier. And these procedures bear some risks even if they were successful for others. And why should you risk anything unless it's mandatory? The point is you have a hboot lower than 1.09. There are not to many left and people are tempted to forget, but hboot lower than 1.09 means you're like an S-Off. You can flash radios and kernels from recovery as on any other S-Off device. Only thing you can't do is to remove those red letters from the boot splash screen...that is you can't flash another firmware. But hopefully you might not need it.
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I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
arjundas86 said:
I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444.​But no, I haven't done anything yet. So first of all, I'll make a nandroid backup and then just try factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik, and flash a CM 11 ROM, and see if it works. I'll post here whether it worked or not, I won't have time to do this until the weekend though.
Thanks, btw.
I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
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I beg to differ answering first:
Just try if you can install your preferred rom, AFTER you edited the "updatescript" as suggested by @Rapier.
IN CASE you have problems with the new rom you should get S-OFF + upgrading HBoot to 2.15+
LS.xD said:
I beg to differ answering first:
Just try if you can install your preferred rom, AFTER you edited the "updatescript" as suggested by @Rapier.
Just IN CASE you have problems with the new rom you should get S-OFF + upgrading HBoot to 2.15+
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Yes, you're right. That's what I meant. I will delete the updater-script lines that Rapier mentioned before trying to install CM11.
If it doesn't work, at least I can restore to my backup, without risk of bricking.
Then I can try the hboot update and s-off if required.
Thanks.
arjundas86 said:
I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444.​...
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Yes, they say so. Then I'm the living proof that this requirement is not true...sorry for that. I've explained above to LS.xD where this requirement came from. The point is that you might have the ROM working even if you're on 1.08 and in this case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want
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...I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
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It's depending on what you want. If you want to get rid of that red warning, to have the latest hboot and to have less trouble when flashing ROMs then yes, it worth it. If you just want to upgrade your firmware to 2.15 (to match the ROM requirements) but do not want to make the S-Off, you will have to flash the kernel separately in fastboot mode, after each ROM flash. Also you won't be able to flash a radio. That's why I said that if you are going to upgrade the firmware you should get S-Off as well
BUT, if you're NOT going to upgrade your firmware and you'll be lucky to have the ROM working, you won't need to S-Off since your current hboot is lower than 1.09 and allows you to flash radios and kernels directly from recovery.
And at this point, as you said, it worth a try like you are now and only if it's not working like this you should upgrade and do S-Off. I guess is much easier and less risky to remove 4 lines from that script and flash the ROM to see if it's working, than to go through the firmware upgrade & S-Off procedures
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Yes, they say so. Then I'm the living proof that this requirement is not true...sorry for that. I've explained above to LS.xD where this requirement came from. The point is that you might have the ROM working even if you're on 1.08 and in this case you won't need to upgrade if you don't wantIt's depending on what you want. If you want to get rid of that red warning, to have the latest hboot and to have less trouble when flashing ROMs then yes, it worth it. If you just want to upgrade your firmware to 2.15 (to match the ROM requirements) but do not want to make the S-Off, you will have to flash the kernel separately in fastboot mode, after each ROM flash. Also you won't be able to flash a radio. That's why I said that if you are going to upgrade the firmware you should get S-Off as well
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Hey Rapier,
I'm having trouble doing getting the zip signed.
I tried the zip signer you had in your guide, as well as a bunch of other zip signing programs, but none of them seem to do the job. I keep getting Error: Status 7.
Not getting bootloops or anything like that, so I was able to restore to my backup. No harm done.

Converting AT&T carrier unlocked HTC One A9 from stock 1.27.502.5 to Nougat

Hey All,
Apologies if this is obvious but I couldn't figure it out myself looking at the FAQ's etc.
I just purchased a new HTC One A9 which was carrier unlocked by AT&T, and I want to convert from the RUU version they use (1.27.502.5) to the latest version that HTC has released on their website - 2.18.617.10 .
However, when I go to do this using that RUU, I get signature error 132. My phone is bootloader locked and S-ON, but from reading a little, I thought that shouldn't matter because I have a US phone, and you only need to change the CID/MID stuff (whatever those are) if you're in a different region?
How would I go about doing this? From reading through a bunch of posts, do I first need to switch to an unlocked version of Marshmallow, before then upgrading to Nougat?
Edit: Upon further reading, does the fact that the 502 in my current version does not match 617 in the one I wish to upgrade to mean that I can't do this with S-on? Do I need S-off? If so, how do I do that? Is it only by purchasing sunshine?
Thank you for your time!
Best,
-BBsmitz
bbsmitz said:
Hey All,
Apologies if this is obvious but I couldn't figure it out myself looking at the FAQ's etc.
I just purchased a new HTC One A9 which was carrier unlocked by AT&T, and I want to convert from the RUU version they use (1.27.502.5) to the latest version that HTC has released on their website - 2.18.617.10 .
However, when I go to do this using that RUU, I get signature error 132. My phone is bootloader locked and S-ON, but from reading a little, I thought that shouldn't matter because I have a US phone, and you only need to change the CID/MID stuff (whatever those are) if you're in a different region?
How would I go about doing this? From reading through a bunch of posts, do I first need to switch to an unlocked version of Marshmallow, before then upgrading to Nougat?
Edit: Upon further reading, does the fact that the 502 in my current version does not match 617 in the one I wish to upgrade to mean that I can't do this with S-on? Do I need S-off? If so, how do I do that? Is it only by purchasing sunshine?
Thank you for your time!
Best,
-BBsmitz
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In order to convert to another carrier version, you must change your CID and MID to match the RUU version you want to flash. .617 uses the same MID as .502 so you'll need to change your CID only from CWS__001 to BS_US001. Changing CID does requires S-OFF (Sunshine is the best way unless you know someone with a XTC2Clip box).
You'll also need to update your firmware to Nougat before flashing the Nougat RUU because of the signature change implemented in Nougat.
Everything explained here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63640734&postcount=2
Read faq 1-2-3-4
alray said:
In order to convert to another carrier version, you must change your CID and MID to match the RUU version you want to flash. .617 uses the same MID as .502 so you'll need to change your CID only from CWS__001 to BS_US001. Changing CID does requires S-OFF (Sunshine is the best way unless you know someone with a XTC2Clip box).
You'll also need to update your firmware to Nougat before flashing the Nougat RUU because of the signature change implemented in Nougat.
Everything explained here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63640734&postcount=2
Read faq 1-2-3-4
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Okay thanks so much Two more quick questions.
1) Does changing to S-off have any consequences in terms of a future update? I'm guessing it will void my warranty, but say I wanted to go back to using AT&T's version of android. Would the fact that my phone is now S-off prevent me from using their RUU (assuming I change the CID back.) I guess my question is, warranty aside, is there really any negative to turning S-off?
2) This is more out of curiosity. HTC One Phones that were sold unlocked/developer that are currently running Marshmallow can be upgraded to Nougat without flashing the firmware to 2.xx.xxx.x right? So if I was to change my current CID to that of a developer One A9, and install that Marshamallow RUU say (1.57.617.60), why wouldn't I be able to simply update from within the OS as they do?
Thanks again for your time.
Best,
Bbsmitz
bbsmitz said:
Okay thanks so much Two more quick questions.
1) Does changing to S-off have any consequences in terms of a future update?
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No, after converting to another version, you'll receive ota updates for that version.
I'm guessing it will void my warranty,
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Yes an no. There's always the possibility to revert back to your original version and hide everything you've done.
but say I wanted to go back to using AT&T's version of android. Would the fact that my phone is now S-off prevent me from using their RUU (assuming I change the CID back
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You would simply have to revert your CID back to CWS__001 and flash the at&t ruu. Changing the cid is easily done.
I guess my question is, warranty aside, is there really any negative to turning S-off?
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S-off gives you full control and access to all partitions which mean there is no more mechanism preventing you to flash incompatible software/firmware on your phone. Once s-off, be sure to understand what you're doing before flashing files. The risk is limited if you'll only be converting to another version or flashing custom roms but if you're going to explore a little deeper yeah it can be dangerous.
2) This is more out of curiosity. HTC One Phones that were sold unlocked/developer that are currently running Marshmallow can be upgraded to Nougat without flashing the firmware to 2.xx.xxx.x right? So if I was to change my current CID to that of a developer One A9, and install that Marshamallow RUU say (1.57.617.60), why wouldn't I be able to simply update from within the OS as they do?
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All A9 can simply be updated from the OS, not only the unlocked/dev version. The reason why you need to flash the firmware first before flashing a RUU is that HTC changed their encryption signature in Nougat. That mean your phone need the new decryption key to be able to flash Nougat RUU. Flashing the firmware first will update your phone with the new key, making it able to flash Nougat RUU.
There is a firmware.zip file inside ota updates. When you install an ota update from the OS, the first thing that is flashed on your phone is that firmware.zip. So no you don't need to manually flash the firmware because it's done automatically in the ota process.
Yes you could flash the 1.57.617.30 ruu and do the ota update after. It's just faster to flash the Nougat firmware first and the Nougat RUU instead of flashing the Marshmallow RUU and downloading + installing 2 ota udpates, well that's my opinion. Both methods will give the same result.
alray said:
No, after converting to another version, you'll receive ota updates for that version.
Yes an no. There's always the possibility to revert back to your original version and hide everything you've done.
You would simply have to revert your CID back to CWS__001 and flash the at&t ruu. Changing the cid is easily done.
S-off gives you full control and access to all partitions which mean there is no more mechanism preventing you to flash incompatible software/firmware on your phone. Once s-off, be sure to understand what you're doing before flashing files. The risk is limited if you'll only be converting to another version or flashing custom roms but if you're going to explore a little deeper yeah it can be dangerous.
All A9 can simply be updated from the OS, not only the unlocked/dev version. The reason why you need to flash the firmware first before flashing a RUU is that HTC changed their encryption signature in Nougat. That mean your phone need the new decryption key to be able to flash Nougat RUU. Flashing the firmware first will update your phone with the new key, making it able to flash Nougat RUU.
There is a firmware.zip file inside ota updates. When you install an ota update from the OS, the first thing that is flashed on your phone is that firmware.zip. So no you don't need to manually flash the firmware because it's done automatically in the ota process.
Yes you could flash the 1.57.617.30 ruu and do the ota update after. It's just faster to flash the Nougat firmware first and the Nougat RUU instead of flashing the Marshmallow RUU and downloading + installing 2 ota udpates, well that's my opinion. Both methods will give the same result.
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Edit2: I figured out the problem. I had to boot into the bootloader and then run
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htc_fastboot oem rebootRUU
before I could run the RUU sucessfully. Am leaving the rest of this post up just so that other people googling this have a touch point.
Okay so I've used Sunshine to turn s-off and unlock my bootloader. I then changed my CID to BS_US001.
I then tried to install the HTC version of Marshmallow (maybe silly, but heard people having issues with Nougat and the battery) using the RUU.exe file. It started successfully, but then halfway though, after it had transferred the ROM over, it threw an ERROR155 and aborted, leaving my phone with an empty progress bar, and that circular green arrow icon in the middle. I used the command line to restart my device and had to factory wipe it, but otherwise not the worse for wear.
I tried googling it; do I need to relock my bootloader for the RUU.exe files to work? I think the Sunshine FAQ recommended against doing that. Is this a risky step?
Edit: Here are some instructions I found from the HTC One M8 firmware flashing thread. My error says "unknown" but I imagine its similar.
For “Error 155 relock bootloader" do:
- Since my thread works only with S-OFF phones anyway, this error can be read as: you need to S-OFF first!
- Error 155 can mean that you need SuperCID. On a few occasions this was shown when the RUU/FUU refused to run because of a wrong region lock.
- Lately, Error 155 has occurred when a FUU was launched from within android. When encountering a FUU error 155 with the process stalling after the rebootRUU (stuck at black screen with silver HTC logo), please just restart the FUU and leave the phone in that mode, or reboot the phone, then reboot to bootloader, then do “htc_fastboot oem rebootRUU” and then launch the FUU again (thanks @anarchychris for pointing it out).
- run the fastboot command “htc_fastboot oem lock" - only applies to S-ON phones that want to update the firmware with a stock OTA package (not offered on this thread!!). Stock OTA files sometimes need a locked bootloader.
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help
Is this guide convert AT&T bindings factory unlocked htc? I cant access wifi hotspot. also cant run RRU.
hiii i have htc one a9300 by mistak i wipe every thing including internal memory now my fon sows that no "os install are you sure wanto reboot " please tell me wat to do now
AT&T conversion
alray said:
In order to convert to another carrier version, you must change your CID and MID to match the RUU version you want to flash. .617 uses the same MID as .502 so you'll need to change your CID only from CWS__001 to BS_US001. Changing CID does requires S-OFF (Sunshine is the best way unless you know someone with a XTC2Clip box).
You'll also need to update your firmware to Nougat before flashing the Nougat RUU because of the signature change implemented in Nougat.
Everything explained here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63640734&postcount=2
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How do I get started to do this. How do I find out my mid Cid and if I need to change? How do I flash firmware first? I have android 6.0 software 1.27.502.5. I have done a run before but never changed from a carrier. I went to the link above but I don't know what some if this means and where to start and what steps to take in order.

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